Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper [Archive]

Rakthi

05-01-2015, 11:32 PM

Hi guys ... this is going to be one of those threads that will only occasionally get updated when I find the time to work on the kit.

I ordered this truck about a year ago, it arrived begin September 2014 ... I was still messing around with the build of the Fumotec Komatsu 490 Fumotec Komatsu 490 (http://www.rctruckandconstruction.com/showthread.php?t=9568)

It took rather long from ordering to shipping because I wanted it with the Arocs cabin so had to wait for some of the bits and pieces to be in stock. Elected to wait till they could send all the bits and pieces in one go to avoid extra shipping costs.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/001_zpsllqq8g3p.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/001_zpsllqq8g3p.jpg.html)

Inside the usual wooden box ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/002_zpsp0fsg0dl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/002_zpsp0fsg0dl.jpg.html)

And that was it ...After I checked the contents these 2 boxes been sitting around ever since. Let's just say that life got in the way.

So this week, I finally started.

Here some pics of the contents of the boxes;

Truck frame / drivetrain

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/003_zpslgfnfzqf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/003_zpslgfnfzqf.jpg.html)

Electronics

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/004_zpspnejcmy4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/004_zpspnejcmy4.jpg.html)

Hydrolics / Roll on roll off parts

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/005_zpsqvdvvr0b.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/005_zpsqvdvvr0b.jpg.html)

Cabin

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/007_zps5hfwznbz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/007_zps5hfwznbz.jpg.html)

And the rear body - I ordered it with the "Baustof Mulde" ("https://scaleart-shop.de/en/Constructions/Tube-with-side-panels-for-roll-on-off-tipper.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/006_zpsogd5xuel.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/006_zpsogd5xuel.jpg.html)

Have made a start on the assembly of the frame. Will upload some pics later this week. Must say, very very impressed with the fit and finish. Seriously WOW. Do wish I had smaller fingers though :)

apfubar

05-02-2015, 05:22 AM

I dare say good eye sight and a steady hand too...

I'm sure you will have fun!

I do with my Arocs and MAN from ScaleArt...

Cheers,
AP

Rakthi

05-02-2015, 05:23 AM

Thanks apfubar! So right about the eyesight and the steady hand! :)

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Been raining all day here, so had time to upload the pictures of the frame.

Starting out with the easy bit, the strengthening frame bit for the roll on roll off kipper.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/008_zps2p2aznny.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/008_zps2p2aznny.jpg.html)

A bit of a challenge getting the nuts on the bolts

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/009_zpsrtukthxk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/009_zpsrtukthxk.jpg.html)

Got it.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/010_zps1lykctwl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/010_zps1lykctwl.jpg.html)

Bolted in the frame (a bit of counting the holes here, but not as bad as it seems). The holes are really to size, so a quick twist back and forth with a small round file works miracles in inserting the bolts.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/011_zpsvqcxb8qk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/011_zpsvqcxb8qk.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/012_zpsy5jobzwe.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/012_zpsy5jobzwe.jpg.html)

The other bits that are part of the frame. The one in the red box is the rear cross beam that comes with the kit. I ordered the one (the biggish brass bit) that allows installation of the Rockinger trailer coupling.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/013_zpsloyzofuw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/013_zpsloyzofuw.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/015_zpsl6r7dqwu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/015_zpsl6r7dqwu.jpg.html)

Installing rear cross beam

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/017_zpsmgzebmbi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/017_zpsmgzebmbi.jpg.html)

Installing some bits from the servo kit while it's easy to get access. The guides for the bowden cable from the differential lock, the servo holder for the diff lock, and the rear bits that will hold the sub frame and the rear bumper.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/018_zpszdmwtzri.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/018_zpszdmwtzri.jpg.html)

So, after about 2 hours ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/019_zps4ht591zr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/019_zps4ht591zr.jpg.html)

The holders for the bowden cable are marked out.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/021_zpsj2zyvh8s.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/021_zpsj2zyvh8s.jpg.html)

The servo mount for the differential lock, nicely made so the servo sits straight in the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/020_zpskottjrah.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/020_zpskottjrah.jpg.html)

A bit confusing really, I got a manual for the MAN TGS which is slightly different from how the MB Arocs goes together. For the rest, the fit of the pieces is perfect and plenty of spare screws with it. Mentioning screws, I still need to cut the bolts to size. Haven't done that yet because I'm still trial fitting the pieces at the moment and might take everything apart again to paint before re-assembling.

Will email Scaleart to see if they got around to update the manual by now.

Next instalment tomorrow weather and time permitting.

Cheers, Stephan

tc1cat

05-02-2015, 07:47 AM

Does the manual actually say to use longer bolts and then cut them to length? This is one of Wedico's complaints that we don't follow instructions about using the exact bolt size when putting the kits together causing problems after assembly.

Rakthi

05-02-2015, 09:53 AM

Yup, the manual gives which size to use where. They provide a bunch of M1.6 bolts and nuts which need to be broken off to size. As far as I can tell most of the these black M1.6 bolts are used for the frame. Further down in the assembly they provide lots of different sizes and lengths.

Here a picture of the manual - you can see the numbers on the technical drawing in the first picture of my previous post:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/022_zpsxc3pdxkf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/022_zpsxc3pdxkf.jpg.html)

tc1cat

05-02-2015, 11:30 AM

Thanks for the pic of the instructions. It actually does make sense for them to do this as it would be cheaper to buy 1 size of bolt and let the consumer size the bolt after it is installed.

Rakthi

05-03-2015, 11:41 PM

Started on the subframe that will hold the mechanics for the hook lift mechanism.

These are the bits and pieces in that assembly unit:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/023_zps19tfjfxv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/023_zps19tfjfxv.jpg.html)

Upon opening, lots of little bags with various nuts and bolts ... (most of those for use in assembling the actual mechanism)

Also some pieces that are not needed, the black bit for example is for the exhaust of the MAN truck., and of the 2 frames on the left, the bottom one is for the long bodied MAN TGX.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/024_zps1fchwxua.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/024_zps1fchwxua.jpg.html)

Starting to put it all together. Manual specifies 2 different kinds of screws.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/026_zps2pxbhq2g.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/026_zps2pxbhq2g.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/025_zpsxu8fv5cc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/025_zpsxu8fv5cc.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/028_zpsqaax2l4g.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/028_zpsqaax2l4g.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/029_zps3iy2bex5.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/029_zps3iy2bex5.jpg.html)

Attaching subframe to the main frame

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/031_zpsc1bnbrru.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/031_zpsc1bnbrru.jpg.html)

At the front we need to get pieces from another assembly unit, the fender supports.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/032_zpsn3sqtnyr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/032_zpsn3sqtnyr.jpg.html)

After some rummaging in the box here are the bits needed for the front fender.
The supports come in 2 different lengths to offset the widening of the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/034_zpscfkve0sz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/034_zpscfkve0sz.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/035_zpskuawucf1.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/035_zpskuawucf1.jpg.html)

Sidenote - to get the loctite on, I found these dental things priceless. Got them on ebay. one can bend them and they are thin enough to get into thigh spaces. Easy to apply the stuff inside the metal rod and avoid the mess you get when applying to the screw.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/036_zpsknaloakc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/036_zpsknaloakc.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/037_zpsjz2zhifl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/037_zpsjz2zhifl.jpg.html)

Front fender support installed

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/038_zpsfgxdefhz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/038_zpsfgxdefhz.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/042_zpsdgnl5886.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/042_zpsdgnl5886.jpg.html)

The rear support of the front fender installed

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/043_zpsgpou7qf0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/043_zpsgpou7qf0.jpg.html)

Was going to do the rear fender supports, but here the difference between the AROCS and the TGS becomes obvious ... Totally different arrangement.

From the TGS Manual:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/048_zpsplva4rdn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/048_zpsplva4rdn.jpg.html)

From the AROCS file I was send by Scaleart:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/027_zpsg9eejzwm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/027_zpsg9eejzwm.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/040_zpspytjmhco.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/040_zpspytjmhco.jpg.html)

Looks like the AROCS fenders set a bit deeper than those from the MAN TGS. Also will need to install some suspension parts before I can install the fender supports. Will also need to take some parts off to do that.

I better go find some more containers to keep all the needed fasteners and washers of the different assembly units organised.

Well here the photos of the current stand of the build:

Top view:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/044_zpskcwnb3rr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/044_zpskcwnb3rr.jpg.html)

Bottom view

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/045_zps5kzbxtze.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/045_zps5kzbxtze.jpg.html)

Cheers,

Stephan

Cooper

05-04-2015, 08:40 AM

Thanks for posting lots of pics. It's always nice to see the big parts but it's nice to see all the little parts being assembled into one big part. Looks good!!

Rakthi

05-04-2015, 09:59 AM

Hi Cooper, glad you like it. Since I take the pictures anyway for future reference, might as well post them here. This also gives me a chance to go over what I did and catch mistakes before I get too far ahead.

Already found out I have to work more organised than I'm used to on this build.

Cheers!
Stephan

Rakthi

05-04-2015, 10:27 PM

Talking about mistakes ... forgot to install this part! Was not on the AROCS drawings I got, but is needed anyway because it holds the bumper stops for the hook mechanism.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/049_zpsgfgeaeje.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/049_zpsgfgeaeje.jpg.html)

Had to remove the sub frame to be able to install it. Too frustrating trying to get the bolt in there with sub frame attached to the main frame. Instructions call for M2 x 8 philips ... seems a bit long to me, but can always file it down later.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/050_zps8iaykt0q.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/050_zps8iaykt0q.jpg.html)

Good thing I caught in now. Here it is in place:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/051_zps7cxofd54.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/051_zps7cxofd54.jpg.html)

And the lot back together again. You can see how the narrowing main frame made it practically impossible to install it unless one has infinitive patience.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/052_zps09ly3fjo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/052_zps09ly3fjo.jpg.html)

Rakthi

05-06-2015, 02:55 AM

Started on the supports for the rear fenders.

These need to be attached to their supports. There are 2 longer ones. According to the paperwork included, they are supposed to go on the back ... considering the 2 rear ones mount on top of other assemblies, decided to put the 2 longer ones on the front. If I'm wrong I can always change them out later.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/053_zpstvitejtj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/053_zpstvitejtj.jpg.html)

They are screwed on with loctite, and the hole in them has to be straight up because it is for a screw that will be inserted later to hold the fender in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/054_zpsboyrb4io.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/054_zpsboyrb4io.jpg.html)

Rear one needed to undo the screws already in place and add another one.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/055_zpsuxpdh3oi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/055_zpsuxpdh3oi.jpg.html)

Good thing I haven't cut the screws down to size yet.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/056_zpspyte6g7s.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/056_zpspyte6g7s.jpg.html)

The middle one mounts on top of the leaf spring support. Manual states to use M2x6 screws.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/057_zpsvoopj0we.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/057_zpsvoopj0we.jpg.html)

Looks like M2x6 is not going to do it though. Barely long enough to show. Well this is what happens if you order something before the official release. Am sure Scaleart has rectified this by now.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/058_zpszef1i3qt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/058_zpszef1i3qt.jpg.html)

This is where I left it for now. Have to see if I have 8 M2x8 screws around somewhere. Might replace them with some M2x8 bolts I had ordered extra for an other project.

Cheers,

Stephan

Rakthi

05-07-2015, 06:33 AM

Took me a bit to locate the spare M2s. Turned out to be M2x10, so shortened them a bit, and then ready to go for what I thought would be a simple exercise ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/059_zpsichpm98o.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/059_zpsichpm98o.jpg.html)

Because I now use longer bolts ... the bolts holding the strengthening frame together are blocking access to the holes in the frame. No way can I get the bolts in the hole. Believe me I tried.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/060_zps8k4zysiz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/060_zps8k4zysiz.jpg.html)

So couple of choice expletives, and after trying to cut them in situ - witch didn't work at all, due to no access/leverage - the solution I came up with was to get them out one by one, cut them, and with a some more colourful language, put them back in. Worked for 3 of them, the fourth one was damaged so too hard to get out. Might have a go at it later.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/064_zpsjq5gp7sp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/064_zpsjq5gp7sp.jpg.html)

After some fumbling decided the easiest (or better less difficult) way would be to just insert all 4 bolts and then take it from there.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/061_zpshviw94ox.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/061_zpshviw94ox.jpg.html)

Here it is in place bolted up with loctite. The nut with the arrow pointing to it is the one that has to go on first as it is so close to the fender support you can not get the tool on it. The hole for it is actually a slot so one has some leeway moving the part a bit back and forth. A 3mm wrench is highly recommended to tighten this one.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/062_zpsoeykkm0l.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/062_zpsoeykkm0l.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/063_zpsdktynz8b.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/063_zpsdktynz8b.jpg.html)

The other side went a tad easier. Had some practice.

Then on to the front support of the rear fenders. On the left this one goes on top of the supports of the box that will hold the hydraulic valves. Also needs to take out the bolts of the centre cross beam

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/065_zps9ai90ep8.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/065_zps9ai90ep8.jpg.html)

Here supports box and fender loosely assembled

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/066_zpshndjjd5g.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/066_zpshndjjd5g.jpg.html)

Final assembly (another fumble job, but not too bad)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/067_zpsjfcdwvzg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/067_zpsjfcdwvzg.jpg.html)

The right side was easy peasy after all this

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/068_zpsdvei4mva.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/068_zpsdvei4mva.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/069_zpshyndh4e0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/069_zpshyndh4e0.jpg.html)

Well that is it, had hoped to be a bit further along, but it was not to be.

Cheers!

Stephan

Brel

05-07-2015, 08:58 AM

looks great

Rakthi

05-08-2015, 06:05 AM

Thank you Brel!

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Next up is the supports for the rear lights.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/071_zps2l1heyjm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/071_zps2l1heyjm.jpg.html)

Tight fit indeed.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/072_zpspubtukkm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/072_zpspubtukkm.jpg.html)

On the left side I had to loosen the bolts from the fender support to get a little leeway.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/073_zps2kjlpder.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/073_zps2kjlpder.jpg.html)

Installed. Still needs the part to attach the license plate.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/074_zpsfic9leda.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/074_zpsfic9leda.jpg.html)

Next, the rear bumper bar. (comes as part of the hook mechanism)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/075_zpstqnmvtqk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/075_zpstqnmvtqk.jpg.html)

Can be installed high ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/077_zpsgxcvemdw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/077_zpsgxcvemdw.jpg.html)

Or low. Installed it low because I will install the rocking tow bit.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/078_zpsz1bjqoqn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/078_zpsz1bjqoqn.jpg.html)

Having a little 2.5 socket key to hold the bolt while setting the nut is handy here.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/076_zpslwanuhlw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/076_zpslwanuhlw.jpg.html)

Bumper bar in. (put some loctite on it)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/079_zps5clfcrk1.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/079_zps5clfcrk1.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/080_zps0dsxoluk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/080_zps0dsxoluk.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/081_zpsh9mzcnet.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/081_zpsh9mzcnet.jpg.html)

That's all I had time for. I also shortened the 4th nut from the strengthening frame. One of the reasons of the order this is bolted together is to get the frame to the state where it can be painted. Hence the parts from different assembly units.

Cheers!

Stephan

Rakthi

05-09-2015, 01:00 AM

The leaf spring assembly for both front axles. The 2 parts in the red box replace the regular spacers, one on the left inside of the first axle and one on the right inside of the second axle

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/082_zps7liqxfwd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/082_zps7liqxfwd.jpg.html)

The first axle left side, parts laid in order of assembly. I wiggled them out using the tweezers.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/083_zpsctbwvizy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/083_zpsctbwvizy.jpg.html)

The points where they attached to the frame are sharp. I elected to sand them off to smoothen them.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/084_zpsahcaoffq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/084_zpsahcaoffq.jpg.html)

All the parts for this assembly unit sorted out. (The 2 30mm long screws and the black block at the bottom come from the axle package. Not included with the suspension assembly)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/085_zps0hj7emex.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/085_zps0hj7emex.jpg.html)

Assembled

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/086_zpsuonjnhtq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/086_zpsuonjnhtq.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/087_zpsy8l3gkrd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/087_zpsy8l3gkrd.jpg.html)

The leaf spring for the 2nd axle

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/088_zpsuprq0onq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/088_zpsuprq0onq.jpg.html)

Front suspension left side assembled

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/089_zps5qn5dg70.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/089_zps5qn5dg70.jpg.html)

Closer look at the 2nd axle

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/090_zpsacyw1xku.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/090_zpsacyw1xku.jpg.html)

Front leaf springs left and right

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/091_zpsqg9dqg0v.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/091_zpsqg9dqg0v.jpg.html)

This took way longer than I thought it would. As before, fit and finish is excellent.

Cheers,

Stephan

TRUCKMAKER

05-09-2015, 11:09 AM

Very nice build thread Stephan! Oh and the trucks cool too!:cool:;):D

Rakthi

05-10-2015, 01:24 AM

Thank you for the compliment Truckmaker! At this moment it looks like it will take a bit before it actually looks like a truck. ;) - at the end of this update I'm only at page 10! Still plenty work left.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

After the front suspension, time to do the rear one.

These are the bits:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/092_zpshyhzfyuw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/092_zpshyhzfyuw.jpg.html)

And here ready for assembling - the black end has an indent to accommodate the head of the centre screw.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/093_zpspxzsn5qy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/093_zpspxzsn5qy.jpg.html)

Side view left and right

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/094_zpsmq3mxasa.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/094_zpsmq3mxasa.jpg.html)

Top and bottom view

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/095_zpsanrhtz46.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/095_zpsanrhtz46.jpg.html)

These will not be bolted to the frame at the moment. They'll have to wait till page 17.

The front suspension is the next assembly step.

Here the right side sorted with all the parts needed.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/096_zpsmqux7lzn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/096_zpsmqux7lzn.jpg.html)

Right side installed ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/097_zpskuntxqlx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/097_zpskuntxqlx.jpg.html)

The view inside the frame. For the first axle they left a hole in the frame to accommodate the head of the screw.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/098_zpszfjn9pwm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/098_zpszfjn9pwm.jpg.html)

Leafspring of the 2nd axle. (no hole needed here due to the distance block)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/099_zpsyntqvgc2.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/099_zpsyntqvgc2.jpg.html)

Both sides fitted to the frame. On the right side the cross headed screw has to be reversed (head on the outside) to allow the steering mechanism to fit.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/100_zps6rahzk0n.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/100_zps6rahzk0n.jpg.html)

View from the bottom.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/101_zpspbgdfajn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/101_zpspbgdfajn.jpg.html)

And a detail picture of the tight fit at the rear left.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/102_zpsl3lezwsv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/102_zpsl3lezwsv.jpg.html)

All the fasteners of the suspension have loctite as per instructions.

Cheers!

Stephan

Cossett

05-10-2015, 01:51 AM

Thanks Stephan for the way your doing this thread blow by blow I didn't realize how much work had to go into a Scale Art truck.
Do you have a pic of the tools your using to assemble this rig ?

Cheers Tracy

Rakthi

05-10-2015, 04:57 AM

Hi Tracy, yup, lots of bits and pieces go into one of these trucks. Taking the pictures the way I do, makes me stop and think through the assembling part twice or trice before I actually start. And then I still make mistakes like putting the leafsprings on upside down ... Even with the instructions it is confusing from time to time.

I know Scaleart is expensive, but if you see the quality and fit of the parts, it's worth the money spend. (although I do wish it was cheaper)

As for tools I use ..

I got a set of Knupfer wrenches. (http://knupfer.info/shop/index.php/deutsch/werkzeug-gabelschlussel/w-ga-satz.html) They are laser cut and exact. Only wished they were a bit longer. Had my sister who lives in Germany send them over. Lots of interesting stuff on his site too. I guess he will ship outside Europe if asked.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/103_zps5w1xqddu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/103_zps5w1xqddu.jpg.html)

This set I found on ebay, not as nicely made. These are roughly finished and not too exact but they are good to hold a nut in place when your fingers can't reach. For size/finish comparison, the 4mm Knupfer one is 4.5 cm and the 4 mm in this set is 10 cm.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/104_zps1zhxk7jm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/104_zps1zhxk7jm.jpg.html)

And this box has come in very handy indeed. Picked this up a while ago. It's a box for smart phone / tablet repair. Brand is Huijiaqi 8921. (I've seen them online for about US$15 - 16 ) Actually good quality for the money.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/105_zpsfelyjyuu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/105_zpsfelyjyuu.jpg.html)

The handle has a magnet in it, so it holds the nuts/screws in place, has different length options, you can use the bits without handle (handy in tight places) and the nicest feature is the bendable extension.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/106_zpshpmbtsbm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/106_zpshpmbtsbm.jpg.html)

Then the usual array of (ball)hex drivers, philips and flat screwdrivers etc. too many to picture. I try not to go to hardware stores too much, always end up buying something or the other. The grey ones are included when you buy from Scaleart.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/107_zpsin5wimtl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/107_zpsin5wimtl.jpg.html)

And for the rest, a Dremel is nice, lots of tweezers to pick up little parts, mini pliers etc etc ... And for this build, lots of little plastic containers to keep the assembly units together ...

As you can see ... I'm bored today ...

Cheers!

Stephan

apfubar

05-10-2015, 03:20 PM

Stephan,

Isn't it amazing how many hours get sucked up just on the core of the chassis...

Great idea with the dental tools... You are doing a brilliant job with the photos!

Cheers,
Ap

Rakthi

05-10-2015, 11:43 PM

Hi Ap,

Yup so right about how time consuming it all is, time flies if one is having fun! Been "making" too much time for it actually ... have to catch up on some house maintenance first.

On a side note, just noticed that I put this right fender support on the left side of the frame and the left one on the right side ... of course it has to be the one that was such a pain to install.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/062_zpsoeykkm0l.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/062_zpsoeykkm0l.jpg.html)

Cheers,

Stephan

Rakthi

05-11-2015, 09:10 PM

Swapped those two supports and it was a ***** of a job as expected.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/108_zpserequiez.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/108_zpserequiez.jpg.html)

Need to assemble a few more bits and then the frame is ready for painting. Although, might skip the painting, am not too good at that.

Rakthi

05-12-2015, 12:42 AM

Raining here, so got some time to add some more.

Installed a small part of the steering linkage as mentioned in the instructions.

Because it has wide holes and can be slid left - right, I installed the actual parts that will connect to it, to make sure I got it in the right spot. (Largest screw goes in top hole)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/109_zpsbh4bxs8x.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/109_zpsbh4bxs8x.jpg.html)

With the parts in place, and the 2 screws inserted.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/111_zpsxwk11uof.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/111_zpsxwk11uof.jpg.html)

Installed and loctite applied.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/112_zpsg2tcngp3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/112_zpsg2tcngp3.jpg.html)

That part done, on to the side underrun protection (a legal requirement in Europe) that needs to be painted as well. However can not be bolted on frame as of yet.

This seems a simple small assembly unit, so I give you a full rundown on how it comes.

Nicely packaged

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/113_zpsjfbh0h2e.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/113_zpsjfbh0h2e.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/114_zpsd2o6nv3n.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/114_zpsd2o6nv3n.jpg.html)

Some extra nuts and bolts included, however the ones in the red box are on the parts list, but do not appear on the assembly list ??? Odd.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/115_zpsekbxdgyq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/115_zpsekbxdgyq.jpg.html)

How it goes together. (another one where one needs be careful as it needs 2 left and 2 right ones)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/116_zps9vnpeko1.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/116_zps9vnpeko1.jpg.html)

The holes in the aluminium support bracket were a tad tight. So reamed them out a bit. Not really needed, but easier to insert the little bolts.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/119_zpshtm3oemu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/119_zpshtm3oemu.jpg.html)

One right one assembled ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/117_zpsofjkingh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/117_zpsofjkingh.jpg.html)

Since I wanted to know how the actually bars go on, I looked at the instructions ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/121_zpsjf8bwqce.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/121_zpsjf8bwqce.jpg.html)

So I am to put a bolt through that hole? The bolt head of the other one is blocking access.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/118_zpshqsch4fk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/118_zpshqsch4fk.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/120_zpsyelgxfg2.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/120_zpsyelgxfg2.jpg.html)

So looks like after paint, the little support will have to come off and the bar bolted on first, then the whole thing can be bolted back to the support bracket ... I tried it, and it does work that way -- if you have 3 hands :)

Cheers,

Stephan

Rakthi

05-12-2015, 09:18 PM

Been thinking about the above "problem" with the bolts blocking one another.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/122_zpst2swwbqq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/122_zpst2swwbqq.jpg.html)

So did a search on the German forums, where there is more than one thread detailing how these trucks go together, and found the solution in one the older threads (http://www.modelltruck.net/showthread.php?46059-MAN-TGS-4-Achs-8x8-Abrollkipper) from Christian (aka Newcomer_2). Just file the head of one of the bolts down.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/123_zpsozjldpgt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/123_zpsozjldpgt.jpg.html)

And problem solved ... just have to file down 7 more. (Dremel to the rescue)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/124_zpsrdrejmov.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/124_zpsrdrejmov.jpg.html)

Rakthi

05-15-2015, 04:42 AM

Some extra nuts and bolts included, however the ones in the red box are on the parts list, but do not appear on the assembly list ??? Odd.

Well, turns out not odd at all ... those screws are for a different model truck.

===========================

Now bolting on the last parts to the frame to get into "paint ready" mode.

These are the parts from the locking/swivel mechanism that will hold the cabin to the frame. I will picture them in the order they went on. The locations on the frame is self evident due to the placing of the holes. Just very confusing as all parts have different sizes of bolts.

Here M2x4

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/125_zpsl2epxjby.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/125_zpsl2epxjby.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/126_zps1puhuevp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/126_zps1puhuevp.jpg.html)

Here M2x5

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/127_zpscyeuzhni.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/127_zpscyeuzhni.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/128_zps5uemxzwy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/128_zps5uemxzwy.jpg.html)

M2x6 and M2x10

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/130_zpsvdnwruui.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/130_zpsvdnwruui.jpg.html)

The longer screw will hold a spring of the swivel mechanism of the cabin.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/131_zpsuxnvjht5.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/131_zpsuxnvjht5.jpg.html)

This part will hold the front bumper. M2x8

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/132_zpsjtsvvnus.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/132_zpsjtsvvnus.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/133_zps4jnochfq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/133_zps4jnochfq.jpg.html)

One side done, other is mirror image.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/134_zpsum4ug0xk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/134_zpsum4ug0xk.jpg.html)

The last part is the cross connector. (M2x6 on the left and M2x5 on the right)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/135_zpsaxszb8dq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/135_zpsaxszb8dq.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/136_zps2nqzhcbv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/136_zps2nqzhcbv.jpg.html)

The bolts on this picture are M2x8 to give you an idea of the detail of the parts. The little hook will hold the spring of the locking mechanism

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/137_zps2ru56bxq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/137_zps2ru56bxq.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/138_zpsmie4kceb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/138_zpsmie4kceb.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/139_zpsvku3udvm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/139_zpsvku3udvm.jpg.html)

All in all not too difficult to assemble, but gave me some eyestrain figuring out what goes where. Too much information in the technical drawings.

Now we wait for decent weather so I can paint, or I just skip the painting all together, too worried I mess it up. Will see. Meanwhile I look and see what other things can be done.

Cheers!
Stephan

Rakthi

05-16-2015, 11:40 PM

Realised I also need to paint the air tanks. So did a quick assembly on that small unit. Good thing too, because doing so pointed out an error I made in the previous post.

Here a pic of the unit;

Screws are M2x4 and M2x8 and M2 nuts. One extra of each fastener.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/140_zpsl6cww2hu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/140_zpsl6cww2hu.jpg.html)

The little stainless spacer is to make up for the stainless holder to which the fender support is attached.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/141_zpsntqr5kqu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/141_zpsntqr5kqu.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/142_zpsfkcrjwyf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/142_zpsfkcrjwyf.jpg.html)

And here the error I made before. I bolted the fender support to the wrong side of the stainless holder! Aluminum piece supposed to go in front, not behind!

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/144_zpsumymdd4f.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/144_zpsumymdd4f.jpg.html)

Corrected ... And now easy to see why the little spacer is needed.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/147_zps1pskrk4d.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/147_zps1pskrk4d.jpg.html)

And this is how the air tanks will attach later on.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/148_zpsjioekea2.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/148_zpsjioekea2.jpg.html)

Side note - on the front support for the cab are 2 pieces. The left side on has an attachment for the steering linkage, the right side one doesn't.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/145_zpsjhlrrpbu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/145_zpsjhlrrpbu.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/146_zpsfu4wsliz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/146_zpsfu4wsliz.jpg.html)

That's it for now.

Cheers - Stephan

ricm

05-17-2015, 07:58 PM

thanks for taking the time to put up this build thread....really interesting to see, I now understand why Tamiya is just $ but ScaleArt is $$$$$ :jaw:

wierd that you have to cut off all the bolts to get them down to the right length...

Rakthi

05-18-2015, 05:21 AM

Hi Ricm, glad you like it. Once I got the frame painted we will get to the more interesting bits that might be a tad challenging for me.

Indeed you get value for the money (at least I feel so) and the customer service at ScaleArt is top too.

The screws that need shortening ... someone on the German forum brought up the following: ScaleArt has 5 different truck lines, in different lengths and number of axles. Then the MAN alone has 5 different cabs too .. so somewhere this becomes a logistic problem keeping in mind that each truck is about three- to five thousand parts (fasteners included). So they try to streamline as much as possible and you see the same bits show up in the different trucks. Now if they would have to supply the right size bolts with each frame ... would just add a tremendously amount of work to their supply chain.

Also having the 1.6M bolts this length makes is easier to get them into the holes in the frame, and breaking them off is easy enough. Having to sort out the different sizes of nuts and bolts in the more complicated assembly units is already head ache inducing.

The further along I get with this kit, the more respect I have for the guys at ScaleArt who put it all together. On top of that, seeing what some of the members here build from scratch ...

Rakthi

05-19-2015, 12:35 AM

This morning, clear sky, sun ... so decided to give the painting a shot.

Hung the bits up on a nylon string in the sun to warm up the metal. Paint I used is a local brand of high temperature paint. Only one I could find that was not gloss. Bit hard to see all the small bits with the plants in the background. (The fencing looks the way it does because it is meant to keep our cats in)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/150_zpslsbv1fru.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/150_zpslsbv1fru.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/149_zpst1ayitpf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/149_zpst1ayitpf.jpg.html)

Could have done better, but all in all very pleased with the result. Being black it will be easy to touch up later. I also remembered to do the hydraulic cylinders at the last moment.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/151_zpskjieh8aw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/151_zpskjieh8aw.jpg.html)

Glad that this part is out of the way.

Cheers!
Stephan

Rakthi

05-21-2015, 05:58 AM

Today I bolted on the Rockinger Trailer Coupling. Easy I thought ... only took about 2 hours. (got a bit carried away with pictures here too)

Because there was only €26 (without tax) difference between the manual and the remote controlled one, I decided to go for the radio controlled one.

What is in the red square is the manual version, the rest is with the radio controlled one.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/152_zpsjzjvgbo4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/152_zpsjzjvgbo4.jpg.html)

This coupling is truly a masterpiece. Here some pictures

Left side

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/153_zpsg1jrhoen.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/153_zpsg1jrhoen.jpg.html)

Right side - closed

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/154_zps8idj1uxw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/154_zps8idj1uxw.jpg.html)

Right side - open (closes automatically when the tongue of the trailer hits the back part - manually with the little lever at the bottom)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/159_zpspgvdts4d.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/159_zpspgvdts4d.jpg.html)

Here a link to a short movie I found on YouTube that shows this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyJbYVeywP0

Bottom - the spring allows movement to the left and right (no movement when coupling is open)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/155_zpssydlaaay.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/155_zpssydlaaay.jpg.html)

Top

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/156_zps78gl6lkg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/156_zps78gl6lkg.jpg.html)

Front

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/157_zps8rzazgh8.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/157_zps8rzazgh8.jpg.html)

Back

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/158_zpsao4cqfnp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/158_zpsao4cqfnp.jpg.html)

So unpacked the lot and all I really needed was the 2 black bits with the arrow pointing to it, the cable and the servo. The rest are for every possible truck ScaleART produces. So lots of spare screws, washers etc.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/160_zpscwiz3ktn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/160_zpscwiz3ktn.jpg.html)

To get the little black lever on, one needs to remove the big stainless one.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/161_zpsysyc26cg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/161_zpsysyc26cg.jpg.html)

This was not as easy as it sounds, but a bit of scrap rubber to protect the polished metal and pliers took care of it.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/163_zpsalwkfylp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/163_zpsalwkfylp.jpg.html)

The black lever pressed in place (used a box driver) on the square protrusion. Looks like a grub screw is needed to hold the cable in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/164_zpsyxfnzk4w.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/164_zpsyxfnzk4w.jpg.html)

Found in the bag with fasteners.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/165_zpsmn7aetxh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/165_zpsmn7aetxh.jpg.html)

Next the servo support goes in the back cross member of the frame

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/166_zpszpmewxih.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/166_zpszpmewxih.jpg.html)

The holes in the trailer coupling have thread in them. Elected not to drill it out. So first screw in the 4 screws.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/167_zpsmzvruiez.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/167_zpsmzvruiez.jpg.html)

Then loosen each screw in turn and offer up the M2 nut with tweezers (no other way to get to that area)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/168_zpsnsnwjcnj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/168_zpsnsnwjcnj.jpg.html)

Then screw the screw back in whilst holding the nut with the tweezers, and tighten nut with 3mm spanner. Loctite applied.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/169_zpsoa1yvpih.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/169_zpsoa1yvpih.jpg.html)

Next up, prepping the servo and servo horn. Temporary attach the cable. I cut the rubber supports in half and filed off a couple of mm of the copper bushings that go in the rubber. I felt that otherwise the servo might sit too high. Can always change this again at a later date.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/170_zpslv0yv4g7.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/170_zpslv0yv4g7.jpg.html)

Servo bolted in place and cable trimmed to right size. A blob a glue added to where I cut the cable to prevent fraying. The servo horn is just loosely attached for the moment. I still need to centre the servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/172_zps61ka4pws.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/172_zps61ka4pws.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/171_zpskwbtzd0c.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/171_zpskwbtzd0c.jpg.html)

Cheers!

Stephan

Rakthi

05-22-2015, 04:07 AM

Next up is the installation of the hydraulic lift arm.

Here an overview of most of the parts needed for this set - just finding all the bits and pieces was a job in itself :)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/173_zps9vyhnetl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/173_zps9vyhnetl.jpg.html)

First we prep the hydraulic cylinder

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/174_zpsipb7at72.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/174_zpsipb7at72.jpg.html)

The nipples are screwed on, and although the manual does not ask for it, I added some thread sealant. Better safe than sorry.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/175_zpsxc9tzipl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/175_zpsxc9tzipl.jpg.html)

Then temporary mount the cylinder to the hydraulic valve box. Temporary so we can determine the length of the hydraulic hose we need. Would be a real "joy" to have to install this after everything is bolted up.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/176_zpslh20fd7p.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/176_zpslh20fd7p.jpg.html)

Installed. I put the longer pin in the picture because the short one is the wrong one.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/177_zpsnx2gs6f6.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/177_zpsnx2gs6f6.jpg.html)

Mounted the valve body in the box to check length hose.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/179_zpsai5ui9sf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/179_zpsai5ui9sf.jpg.html)

The hoses for this cylinder will attach to the area pointed out with the arrows. The 2 circled holes are the in and return line for the oil. There's been a small error in packing and the 4 mm nipples were omitted. ScaleART already informed me they will ship them ASAP .. still will probably take 4 weeks to get here.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/180_zpslygga6zp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/180_zpslygga6zp.jpg.html)

Hose length determined and cut to size, attached it to the nipple. First slide on the hose and then press the sleeve home.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/181_zpsjuj4xtcc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/181_zpsjuj4xtcc.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/182_zpspx19hm1q.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/182_zpspx19hm1q.jpg.html)

Next is the connecting rod. (it mounts the other way around from how shown)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/183_zpsb9iyblcf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/183_zpsb9iyblcf.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/184_zpsvn2ryweg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/184_zpsvn2ryweg.jpg.html)

Then the actual kicker, that will have to slide over the rod when we install it in its proper position. (The kicker has to be horizontal when cylinder is completely out.)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/186_zpsydkrvoes.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/186_zpsydkrvoes.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/187_zpsd3txwfyl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/187_zpsd3txwfyl.jpg.html)

Then slide the assembly into the frame through the holes provided in the sub frame. (had to ream out the holes a bit due to the paint that got in)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/185_zps4j6vvmt8.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/185_zps4j6vvmt8.jpg.html)

The valve box needs to be attached with 4 M2x5 screws to the box holders on the frame ... one of them is a absolute pain due to no room at all.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/188_zps9qixfvbi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/188_zps9qixfvbi.jpg.html)

Here all installed (including above nut and screw) seen from the left. I also installed the 2 rubber bumpers.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/189_zpsabs2j48d.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/189_zpsabs2j48d.jpg.html)

Here from the left. Rod that holds the kicker is secured with an M3.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/190_zpsrxvetzv7.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/190_zpsrxvetzv7.jpg.html)

Last part was bolting the diamond plate cover to the valve box cover.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/191_zpswir37u1y.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/191_zpswir37u1y.jpg.html)

That's it for now. Cheers!
Stephan

Rakthi

05-23-2015, 06:51 AM

The rear lights are on the program next. (the orange of the indicators has to be painted in - used Tamiya X-26 for that)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/192_zpsthcvgrqd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/192_zpsthcvgrqd.jpg.html)

I ordered the kit with the KingBus system, so I only have two cable on each light. The cable is supposed to go in the inside of the frame, however a slight problem:

This little plug

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/194_zpsird8ybiu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/194_zpsird8ybiu.jpg.html)

Does not fit in the round hole, more so because the lower rear crossbeam sits further back and blocks part of it.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/195_zpsgzsm5n7l.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/195_zpsgzsm5n7l.jpg.html)

The plug does reminds me of the ones I had on my motorbike. And those would come apart with some fiddling.

Took me a bit, but if you get a needle you can lift up the little plastic tabs and pull out the cables ... not a fun job the first time around, but easier if you lift the tab from the top between the 2 tabs.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/193_zpsmkdnujou.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/193_zpsmkdnujou.jpg.html)

Bare cables. They only go one way back into the plug. The little edge pointed out by the arrow is what holds them in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/196_zpst8oyumat.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/196_zpst8oyumat.jpg.html)

This sorted, next we have to cut a small channel in the plastic body of the light fixture. This to accommodate the cable.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/197_zpshfokuxlj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/197_zpshfokuxlj.jpg.html)

Need to carefully smoothen the edges of the LED board so it fits into the housing. (I used 800 grit paper for this)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/198_zpsqwikgr9x.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/198_zpsqwikgr9x.jpg.html)

Now fits nice and flush in the housing

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/199_zpsabuhz5gz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/199_zpsabuhz5gz.jpg.html)

Added some heat shrink over the wires and cut an insulator from an old inner tube. (there was supposed to be one with the LED board but didn't see it)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/200_zpsrlsiwfxg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/200_zpsrlsiwfxg.jpg.html)

Fed the wire through the hole into the frame - had to take the servo out to make it easier - and in hindsight made my life difficult due to being so focussed on getting the wire in the frame ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/201_zpsh551ib89.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/201_zpsh551ib89.jpg.html)

Tried to fasten the M2x5 screw indicated in the manual, but it didn't fit.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/202_zpsbtnkteze.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/202_zpsbtnkteze.jpg.html)

The holes provided are for M1.6 screws, so changed to those.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/203_zpshk8n9kx5.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/203_zpshk8n9kx5.jpg.html)

Light fixture installed

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/204_zpsrcawqjww.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/204_zpsrcawqjww.jpg.html)

Plug back in place

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/205_zpsdhnhe1ko.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/205_zpsdhnhe1ko.jpg.html)

Servo back in place and lenses glued in place with 2 component transparent glue.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/206_zpsqfeisqap.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/206_zpsqfeisqap.jpg.html)

Cables tucked in the frame for now

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/207_zpsvcpq8qug.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/207_zpsvcpq8qug.jpg.html)

And here a pic without the clamp

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/208_zps1yqzhxnj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/208_zps1yqzhxnj.jpg.html)

If I had to do this again, i would first fix the light to the support, then add the heat shrink and feed it in the frame. Oh well ...

Rakthi

05-24-2015, 05:48 AM

Some more parts that need be bolted to the frame before starting on the drivetrain.

First, the housing for the servo diff lock front axles. The manual indicated 5 M2x5 but only need 3.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/210_zpss4tnhwpf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/210_zpss4tnhwpf.jpg.html)

This is another one of this little gems that make you realise how much thought and care goes into these models. Even for a part that you don't really see once the truck is build. (Yup I can get carried away by things like this)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/211_zpshrxkk8o4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/211_zpshrxkk8o4.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/212_zpsiz0vjdpo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/212_zpsiz0vjdpo.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/213_zps6o1s4sge.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/213_zps6o1s4sge.jpg.html)

Goes here, right behind the cab.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/214_zpsmuyjhmwo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/214_zpsmuyjhmwo.jpg.html)

Neat fit.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/215_zps2ibow0lo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/215_zps2ibow0lo.jpg.html)

Looks like I better bolt that bit from the cabin fender on before I install the servo. :)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/215_zps2ibow0lo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/215_zps2ibow0lo.jpg.html)

Upside down view from the back.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/223_zpszlwvbwzn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/223_zpszlwvbwzn.jpg.html)

Next are the supports for the oil pump and tank.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/209_zpsofn2pz39.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/209_zpsofn2pz39.jpg.html)

Goes here, which is kind of a problem because on the left, there are bolts from the middle cross beam ... I should have paid more attention to that section.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/217_zpsrv9xaz1f.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/217_zpsrv9xaz1f.jpg.html)

They came out easer than I thought.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/218_zpsruozreng.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/218_zpsruozreng.jpg.html)

And tank supports installed ... the left bottom screw took me more than 20 minutes to get into the hole. Almost no access with the valve box and kicker mechanism in place ... There is a reason you're supposed to install it way earlier in the game.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/220_zpswyeibfxd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/220_zpswyeibfxd.jpg.html)

I put the tank in place. You can see that the supports are not really symmetrical.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/221_zpsxusqhetz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/221_zpsxusqhetz.jpg.html)

Reason why the supports are not evenly spaced is the outlet from the pump. That bolt will be replaced by a nipple with a 4mm oil line attached, so you need some room.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/219_zpsh6bj9rb9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/219_zpsh6bj9rb9.jpg.html)

Looking from the back it seems I could get away with moving that support one hole closer to the front.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/222_zpswoctxt1j.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/222_zpswoctxt1j.jpg.html)

Cheers, Stephan

Rakthi

05-24-2015, 06:10 AM

oops ... messed up one of the pics. Should be like this ...

Looks like I better bolt that bit from the cabin fender on before I install the servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/216_zpssyiry79m.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/216_zpssyiry79m.jpg.html)

Prop Shaft

05-24-2015, 08:08 AM

This is just an amazing model. I really enjoy my Capo kits for their amount of detail and realism, but this... Crazy scale. I wish Scale art would make something in a true 1:10 scale cause I would be sold instantly.
Couple questions, if you don't mind me asking, how much did this kit set you back? And what scale is it? Seems fairly small, 1:16?

Rakthi

05-24-2015, 09:46 AM

Prop Shaft

05-24-2015, 02:35 PM

Hi Prop,

The scale of this truck is 14.5, as for how much I paid, € 6143.29 for the truck and € 470 shipping via UPS (that includes the €25 for the prep of the custom forms). That does not include the Rockinger stuff, I got that in a separate order. I think that one comes to €225.00 or so. Because I am from Europe I still have an account there, so no need for me to convert. With the Euro dropping in value it is a good time to buy if you hold other currency.

If you register with ScaleART, you get all the prices without taxes.

I'm lucky to live in a "free port" meaning no import duties etc. No idea what the duty would be on this for you.

Talking about Capo, I have their 8x8 truck too. Was a nice kit to put together. But this new 4x4 you are bolting together sure looks like it is a step up for Capo. Also very realistic. Can't wait to see some pictures of the engine that hides the electrical motor.

Since I have an excavator in 14.5 scale, it kind of makes sense for me to have this truck in that scale too. And as you pointed out, the detail in this truck is unbelievable. Really a joy to assemble.

Stephan

Yikes. Maybe its a good thing they dont have a 1:10 scale offering. I'd be in trouble if they did! Thats more then 2 Capo 8x8's! I skipped building the engine first to wait for servos, its the first thing in the manual. But im going to be starting it soon. It's very impressive I must say. Theres deffinitely nothing else on the market that looks and functions like the real thing as this Capo v8. At least that I have seen. Question for you, have you bought anything from AFV-Model? Loving this build, I'll be following it to the end.

egronvold

05-24-2015, 05:27 PM

A lot of work, but you'll get a very nice truck in the end.

Rakthi

05-24-2015, 08:46 PM

Yikes. Maybe its a good thing they dont have a 1:10 scale offering. I'd be in trouble if they did! Thats more then 2 Capo 8x8's! I skipped building the engine first to wait for servos, its the first thing in the manual. But im going to be starting it soon. It's very impressive I must say. Theres deffinitely nothing else on the market that looks and functions like the real thing as this Capo v8. At least that I have seen. Question for you, have you bought anything from AFV-Model? Loving this build, I'll be following it to the end.

Hi Prop, I've seen some small teaser pics of that V8 on their website. Looks way better detailed than the one in the Tatra. Well will patiently wait until you get to it :). As for the price of he ScaleArt ... what to say ... is indeed $$$ but I don't regret having spend it. Does mean though that the new 4x4 Capo will not happen here. Can't have everything. The AFV-Model site is in my bookmarks for some nice bits, but haven't ordered from them yet. From what I get from the German guys they are pretty reliable. I've ordered stuff from these guys: cmc-versand (http://www.cmc-versand.de/en/) a couple of times. The trouble is that sometimes the shipping cost is more than the product one wants/needs.

A lot of work, but you'll get a very nice truck in the end.

Thanks! But a the moment the end is still very far in the future ;) especially since I just realised that I messed up yet again ...

apfubar

05-25-2015, 02:36 AM

Rakthi

05-25-2015, 03:00 AM

Hi Ap, that's good to know! Some of their stuff is pretty nice.

Here meanwhile ... got a bit better at getting screws into small holes, but now a minor set back because of a paint issue. When I took the supports off the frame, the paint stuck to them ... so now have to go and find another overpriced rattle can of cheap paint. (only variety to be found here)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/224_zpsxnsectg7.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/224_zpsxnsectg7.jpg.html)

Maybe more tomorrow

Cheers, Stephan

Rakthi

05-25-2015, 04:19 AM

OK, was lucky and the local hardware store had one in stock. Masked the area with some paper, couple of shots to paint and we're back in business.

Decided not to move the support because the next opening over is where the frame flares out. I think I would be buying more trouble further in the build.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/225_zps8ym3hnvr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/225_zps8ym3hnvr.jpg.html)

Cheers, hopefully next update more progress.

Stephan

Rakthi

05-26-2015, 05:38 AM

Some progress. Got both front axles and the steering linkage installed :)

The steering linkage from 1st to 2nd front axle went on first. This serves to make the radius of the turn slightly different for each axle. The actual rod connecting the two is just some threaded rod stuck in a messing tube with the two clamps screwed on. Had assembled it for painting purposes.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/226_zpsu12ljzxm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/226_zpsu12ljzxm.jpg.html)

Easier to first put the linkage on the steering levers first. That clamp is tight and takes some force to slip on. Highest point on the front axle, lowest on the second.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/227_zpsk26qpdit.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/227_zpsk26qpdit.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/228_zpscystgblu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/228_zpscystgblu.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/229_zpswhsfdlhm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/229_zpswhsfdlhm.jpg.html)

Now the front axle. A very hefty piece (put it on the kitchen scales and came in at 278 grams) and beautifully finished.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/230_zpsdxrofbot.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/230_zpsdxrofbot.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/231_zpslmuzydvx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/231_zpslmuzydvx.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/232_zpseg4bkreh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/232_zpseg4bkreh.jpg.html)

Here with the components of the track rod. The little M2x5 screw I put in the opening on top to prevent dirt getting in. (not in the manual, but someone on one of the German forums mentioned it was a good preventive thing to do)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/233_zpsimktztn1.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/233_zpsimktztn1.jpg.html)

Track rod goes on top on the first axle

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/234_zpsi7t9aw39.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/234_zpsi7t9aw39.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/239_zpspxx41lfv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/239_zpspxx41lfv.jpg.html)

Added some bling to the axle. There are little holes in there, and you ScaleART has miniature hex heads (https://scaleart-shop.de/en/Model-Components/Screw/Model-miniature-screws/Miniature-hex-head-D1mm.html) that can be put in there (not part of the kit). You will have to drill the hole out to 1 mm and then you can tap them in with one of those hard plastic hammers. Bit tedious but looks good when finished.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/235_zpslmcnkx2f.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/235_zpslmcnkx2f.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/236_zpsstdmamlv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/236_zpsstdmamlv.jpg.html)

Then slide axle on the suspension and bolt up. You need a 5.5 key for those nuts.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/238_zpslurnqqka.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/238_zpslurnqqka.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/240_zpsuuojxl9u.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/240_zpsuuojxl9u.jpg.html)

Then we need a lever to connect the steering to the axle.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/241_zps7a45jnyv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/241_zps7a45jnyv.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/242_zpsgo9bgxfu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/242_zpsgo9bgxfu.jpg.html)

That's the first one done. Second one below.

Rakthi

05-26-2015, 05:49 AM

The second axle is the same. Here I filed the little screw on top down to about 3mm. Because this is the throughput axle I was a bit concerned that at 5mm the end of the screw might interfere with the workings. On this one the track rod goes on the bottom.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/243_zpsfjizsyzm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/243_zpsfjizsyzm.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/244_zpsr9ybhjai.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/244_zpsr9ybhjai.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/245_zpsf32oofuy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/245_zpsf32oofuy.jpg.html)

And here installed. For some reason this one put up a struggle and was a real pain to get on the suspension. I think one of the long screws was at a slight angle.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/246_zpsrxahcz7o.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/246_zpsrxahcz7o.jpg.html)

Connect the 2nd steering lever. Made sure both rods front and back were the same length. Here one of those little bolts fell out. Was thinner than the others. Put it back in with some Loctite. (One package of them had 21 and the other 22 so if one goes missing there are some spares)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/247_zpsrnjxfuds.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/247_zpsrnjxfuds.jpg.html)

Here an overview. Added some lines. Looks like the front track rod needs some adjusting.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/250_zps5lekvnlb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/250_zps5lekvnlb.jpg.html)

Best regards etc.

Stephan

Prop Shaft

05-26-2015, 07:11 AM

Just awesome. Everything about this kit is super cool.

Roundabout

05-26-2015, 08:49 AM

what a work of art, scale-art standard seems so much better than everything else in this hobby.I got a scania 143 streamline, made from brass, from when scale-art was Brand modellbau, even back then the quality was top notch, can't wait to see your build finished, keep up the good work.

Rakthi

05-27-2015, 03:02 AM

Yes, Prop, Roundabout, the parts of this kit are really something else. Pictures just don't do it for the detail and care with which they were made. They also keep updating and improving the parts, even on this kit. It is expensive stuff, but it sure is top of the line as far as building kits is concerned. Having a brass one must be interesting! There still is a section called "Brand Modelbau" in their shop. Mostly small detail stuff for US trucks.

Well was set to post the rear axles stuff, but we are having a tropical downpour here and internet is slow as a poke. Will see if I can get the pics uploaded.

Rakthi

05-27-2015, 04:24 AM

Rear axles .. here a picture of all the parts. (forgot the leaf spring bits)

The bits in the "ScaleART" plastic were in the boxes with the axles. The other parts were in the "rear suspension" package.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/251_zpsy29x9vui.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/251_zpsy29x9vui.jpg.html)

Note: this whole assembly was done with the frame upside down - just to make it more interesting.

First we assemble both triangular parts. Turns out the everything (marked with arrow) is threaded. So a bit of thought has to go in the assembling.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/252_zpse2uc9lfx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/252_zpse2uc9lfx.jpg.html)

After giving it a couple of trail fittings in the chassis, found out it was not going to be that easy. The triangles have to be installed so they can still easily move up and down. It takes some fiddling to get it just so. A bit of grease where the bushing is going is a great help. Before the bushing, screw and nut would move together. After applying the grease, at least the bushing, screw and nut didn't budge when moving the triangle.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/254_zps8sacacny.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/254_zps8sacacny.jpg.html)

Here they are installed. (Loctite applied to about everything)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/255_zps0k6ejwjw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/255_zps0k6ejwjw.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/256_zpspgrvjqiu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/256_zpspgrvjqiu.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/260_zps4qpyktu3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/260_zps4qpyktu3.jpg.html)

Next the leaf spring packages. I replaced the silver phillips screws with hex head ones I had lying around from the Capo. (easier to install with a ball head driver than a philips screwdriver) Apply grease to the inside of the hole where the bushing goes and attach to the lower of the 2 holes (or higher when working upside down). Loctite applied to the inside of the threaded bushing.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/258_zpsklu0hukq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/258_zpsklu0hukq.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/261_zpswwtrzi3g.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/261_zpswwtrzi3g.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/259_zpsekzqzcnf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/259_zpsekzqzcnf.jpg.html)

Next prepping the actual rear axles for installation.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/262_zps4lqlpmsd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/262_zps4lqlpmsd.jpg.html)

First connect the bit that will attach the axle to the triangle. This part has a cut out in the centre that fits over the stainless steel part and the bottom is also slightly rounded so it sits perfectly on the axle casing. On top, one of the holes is threaded, the other is not. So 2 little nuts I thought I would need are extras.

It is also a good idea to first test the fit of this little piece on the triangle (how do I know?) ... One of them needed a bit of widening before it fit.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/266_zpszqs51wum.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/266_zpszqs51wum.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/267_zpsvuunz0wz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/267_zpsvuunz0wz.jpg.html)

axle ready to install

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/268_zpswudwvf2i.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/268_zpswudwvf2i.jpg.html)

Rear axle attached to the triangle

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/269_zpsxowglbms.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/269_zpsxowglbms.jpg.html)

Both installed and balancing on the leaf springs. (connecting the axles to the triangles is another one of those moments that invites the use of colourful language :) )

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/270_zpsqmns0kz0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/270_zpsqmns0kz0.jpg.html)

Next we need the 4 track rods. Manual states to set them at 50mm and if needed do adjustments later once wheels and fenders are installed.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/271_zps3f8ldjj5.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/271_zps3f8ldjj5.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/272_zps0euve8fn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/272_zps0euve8fn.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/273_zps0pgggvwq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/273_zps0pgggvwq.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/274_zpskptnjyws.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/274_zpskptnjyws.jpg.html)

View right side up

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/276_zpsh3k2qda4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/276_zpsh3k2qda4.jpg.html)

Whole frame from above

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/277_zpsm2bjc81i.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/277_zpsm2bjc81i.jpg.html)

and upside down

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/278_zps6x2hjfnz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/278_zps6x2hjfnz.jpg.html)

And as point of interest ... these are the bits left over from the packages supplied. Never even opened those that came with the axles.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/279_zpsp2jvzxhe.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/279_zpsp2jvzxhe.jpg.html)

Next supposed to do the servos for the diff lock and the bowden cables, but might put that of for a bit. Probably will assemble the wheels and fenders next. Just to get the thing on wheels.

Prop Shaft

05-27-2015, 07:14 AM

Louisbaby

05-27-2015, 12:56 PM

Simply a masterpiece...

Rakthi

05-28-2015, 04:48 AM

Prop, Louisbaby ... yup those guys at ScaleART know what they are doing.

Stephan

Rakthi

05-28-2015, 05:15 AM

Started assembling the wheels. The front ones just bolt on, the rear ones need to be bolted together.

The front gets a wide tire. The rear 2 thinner ones each side.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/280_zpsimf6joxq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/280_zpsimf6joxq.jpg.html)

Didn't get around to putting them on the axles. So only the rear ones.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/281_zpsot0r8exp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/281_zpsot0r8exp.jpg.html)

The little rubber bit is to hold the black cap on.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/282_zpszbewjtse.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/282_zpszbewjtse.jpg.html)

Here too we add the little decorative bolts. No need to drill the holes out, most of the little bolts just slide in. So some Loctite applied to the holes. 3 of them "escaped" not to be found when doing the 4 caps. Good thing they provide some extras.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/283_zpslrafwevk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/283_zpslrafwevk.jpg.html)

Only 3 of the 40 installed needed a tap with the hammer

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/284_zpspmchm1fk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/284_zpspmchm1fk.jpg.html)

First install the rubber ring on the centre piece. Would be a pain afterwards.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/286_zpsn4ge1sop.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/286_zpsn4ge1sop.jpg.html)

Then simply slide the 3 parts together and fasten them

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/287_zpsp9qs3g8o.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/287_zpsp9qs3g8o.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/290_zpsg3hf0mh6.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/290_zpsg3hf0mh6.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/288_zpslufsop47.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/288_zpslufsop47.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/289_zpsmrvtyqjw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/289_zpsmrvtyqjw.jpg.html)

Instead of bolting them to the axles, decided to do the diff lock servos. This turned out a real pain.

First prepping the servo horn and add the bowden cable holder. (Holder needs to be installed so it can still move a bit)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/291_zps5xtohzva.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/291_zps5xtohzva.jpg.html)

Servos and other bits ready to be installed. (each servo is for 2 axles)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/292_zpsdpsvlnfj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/292_zpsdpsvlnfj.jpg.html)

These were a pain should have installed them earlier.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/295_zps4i9n4jyd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/295_zps4i9n4jyd.jpg.html)

Luckily access from underside. however none of my wrenches fitted through. Ended up holding the nut in place with a pair off strong tweezers and screwing a long M3 bolt where the grub screw goes. Then tightened up by using the M3 bolt.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/294_zps0vwwlogu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/294_zps0vwwlogu.jpg.html)

Front axles servo installed - horn in the diff closed position.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/296_zpsxk3kcqnz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/296_zpsxk3kcqnz.jpg.html)

The one for the rear axles should have been installed before the axles. Almost no access to the screws. The 2 bowden holders were a struggle too. This one too in the diff locked position. Unlocked will be 90° turn towards the leaf springs.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/297_zps26hayaq0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/297_zps26hayaq0.jpg.html)

Almost had to remove the axle to get to the screw that holds the servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/298_zpsmdpyyvth.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/298_zpsmdpyyvth.jpg.html)

Have to remember to install the support bracket for plate that will hold the electronics before I get in a tight mess there too.

Worn out ... Cheers!

Stephan

Rakthi

05-29-2015, 04:08 AM

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/299_zpshk1wjrv4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/299_zpshk1wjrv4.jpg.html)

Since I reminded myself, I installed the supports for the electronic platform

This need be done now. Once the drive train is in, no more access to that area.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/300_zpshysdimdw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/300_zpshysdimdw.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/301_zps28vbyepl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/301_zps28vbyepl.jpg.html)

A bit tight to install because of the steering rod. Another area that will need some touch up later on.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/302_zps60azbb9v.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/302_zps60azbb9v.jpg.html)

Other side was easy

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/303_zpsfevzbwqv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/303_zpsfevzbwqv.jpg.html)

Next up the cover of the diff lock servo of the front axles.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/304_zpsil8vepz0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/304_zpsil8vepz0.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/306_zpsqf9ysebl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/306_zpsqf9ysebl.jpg.html)

A nice detail, there is a slot just slightly bigger than the plug of a servo so you can stick the wire through.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/305_zpsi577yjmh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/305_zpsi577yjmh.jpg.html)

Next front wheels

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/307_zpsl1j4mniq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/307_zpsl1j4mniq.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/308_zps2hfpuzew.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/308_zps2hfpuzew.jpg.html)

The protection ring just sticks on. This one clamped in place by itself, but the 3 other ones will need a bit of hot glue or some other sticky stuff if I don't want to loose them first time around.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/309_zpsqwkc83qi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/309_zpsqwkc83qi.jpg.html)

Rear wheels. The washer and nut are the only thing I used from the package of fasteners that came with the rear axles

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/310_zps39x1hhok.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/310_zps39x1hhok.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/311_zpssfdebqib.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/311_zpssfdebqib.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/313_zpskaxy629q.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/313_zpskaxy629q.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/314_zpsvcyuqffy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/314_zpsvcyuqffy.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/317_zpsxhnfbspk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/317_zpsxhnfbspk.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/316_zpsl9fdzjcs.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/316_zpsl9fdzjcs.jpg.html)

Next up is supposed to be the motor, gearbox, transfer box and prop shafts.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/315_zpse1twtbnm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/315_zpse1twtbnm.jpg.html)

But, waiting for exhaust pipe that needs to go on before all the above goes in.
Want to wait with the bowden cables to, to see how they work with the motor etc.

Guess I'll just read through the book and see what I can do in the mean while.

Prop Shaft

05-29-2015, 06:41 AM

Cant wait to see the engina and trans on this thing!

Rakthi

05-29-2015, 10:26 AM

I'll post some pics of it tomorrow. Once it's in the truck it is barely visible. Not as impressive as the one on your Jeep though. Ready assembled and greased too, just like the axles.

Think I take a break for a couple of days, back hurting from hovering over the model trying to get a handle on those nuts and bolts. And actually should finish varnishing the front door ... for some reason I haven't have found the time for that :rolleyes:

Stephan

Rakthi

05-29-2015, 11:58 PM

Hi Prop, here the promised pictures. It's a 3 gear box and a transfer case. In normal operation, the power of the motor will go only to the rear wheels, when you lock the transfer case you are in 8x8.

Nicely detailed and beautifully fitted. Once installed you can only see it when you turn the truck on it's back.

The electrical motor is a brushed one. It's a Faulhaber 2657, 46Watt one. Screws into the gearbox and immobilised with a grub screw.

The transfer case threw me a bit, it gets placed in the middle, so the input and output size go towards the front. The position of the locking bit was confusing until I realised you are supposed to run the cable through the provided hole (you can see it on the left in the 2nd picture) and then with a 180° turn towards the front of the frame. (I guess this is also why this is the only one where the bowden cable has a teflon insert.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/325_zps16iqwvr2.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/325_zps16iqwvr2.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/326_zpsgrky3vyg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/326_zpsgrky3vyg.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/327_zpsk6z3dkr9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/327_zpsk6z3dkr9.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/328_zpsy196wpds.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/328_zpsy196wpds.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/329_zps3gmcs8xd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/329_zps3gmcs8xd.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/330_zpszljkxddv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/330_zpszljkxddv.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/331_zps7cufqo9u.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/331_zps7cufqo9u.jpg.html)

Propshafts.

Top one is from motor to transfer case

2nd one is between 2 front axles

3rd and 4th one is either between the rear axles or from rear axle to transfer. (can only see once transfer case is installed)

Last one is from transfer case to the front axles.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/332_zpswwmonh9n.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/332_zpswwmonh9n.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/333_zpsssnxwdov.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/333_zpsssnxwdov.jpg.html)

Rakthi

06-01-2015, 05:32 AM

Got around to assemble the rear part of the roll on roll off mechanism.

Here all the bits and pieces in the approximate place of assembly.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/335_zpsdshd24ty.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/335_zpsdshd24ty.jpg.html)

First the main frame assembled

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/336_zps1xlnqpiu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/336_zps1xlnqpiu.jpg.html)

Then the sliding and fixed hook that hold the container in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/337_zpsixze1fcf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/337_zpsixze1fcf.jpg.html)

Ran into a problem with the right one. The frame is milled to create a channel in which the mechanism can slide back and forth. I guess the bit used in the milling was a bit worn or damaged and the machined surface was rough. Tried to flatten it with a small flat file. It worked up to a point.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/339_zpsedjxfrah.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/339_zpsedjxfrah.jpg.html)

Then I realised that it was the screwheads that were getting caught in the rough area. So too the file to them and problem solved. At one point I used the dremel and accidentally filed a bit of the actual piece too. No biggie as it is not visible.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/340_zps8rw4xpd3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/340_zps8rw4xpd3.jpg.html)

Have to pay attention here too. The bar attached to the sliding hook with those 2 screws connects to the other parts of the mechanism with a countersunk screw. So have to make sure it is installed the right side up. I succeeded in having both sides wrong.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/341_zpsytbav4vk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/341_zpsytbav4vk.jpg.html)

Next the rods of the mechanism. They are 64 mm long as per the manual. They are attached to the above rod through a bushing that goes into a sleeve through the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/342_zps1lyjktyi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/342_zps1lyjktyi.jpg.html)

Here is one rod inserted. The second one is at this moment in the oven for 5 - 10 minutes at 180°C. One of the 4 balljoints of this package had a 3M thread. Didn't fit on the 2M thread rod. Easiest solution, some 2K End Fest glue and better than ever.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/343_zpscioyq5x9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/343_zpscioyq5x9.jpg.html)

While the pushrod was cooling off, installed the axle and the wheels on which the containers will ride. Axle immobilised with cir clips ... smallest I've ever seen. Absolute nightmare to get on because I didn't have the right tool and had to use 2 needle nose pliers to open them up.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/344_zpsjrw0fa9v.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/344_zpsjrw0fa9v.jpg.html)

I was too fast installing the rollers ... they had to come off so I could attach the cover plate and the guide for the hydraulic line.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/345_zpsvqjabqci.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/345_zpsvqjabqci.jpg.html)

Finished view from top

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/349_zpsplv7fjnh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/349_zpsplv7fjnh.jpg.html)

and bottom

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/348_zpsywu5mooe.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/348_zpsywu5mooe.jpg.html)

Cheers

Stephan

bigford

06-01-2015, 05:44 AM

WOW im glad your building this monster and not me

Rakthi

06-01-2015, 09:58 PM

Rakthi

06-01-2015, 10:44 PM

Part 1 of the next step: assembling the arm and part of the hydraulics.

Only a few pieces for now

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/351_zpseybqmq18.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/351_zpseybqmq18.jpg.html)

First we prep the hydraulic cylinder

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/352_zpskikzny91.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/352_zpskikzny91.jpg.html)

Then the hook

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/353_zpshvly9coo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/353_zpshvly9coo.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/354_zpswutgl78g.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/354_zpswutgl78g.jpg.html)

Then the above part gets bolted on the moving arm. The screws are recessed to allow for the hydraulic cylinder and not that easy to get into place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/355_zpsjibcqnyj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/355_zpsjibcqnyj.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/356_zpsqkpmphkm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/356_zpsqkpmphkm.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/357_zpsqdqxcvon.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/357_zpsqdqxcvon.jpg.html)

Next we have to insert/mount the hydraulic cylinder in the stationary part of the mechanism. This, because you have to slide the cylinder in a an angle because the nipples will otherwise not pass through.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/358_zpsgvekxknx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/358_zpsgvekxknx.jpg.html)

We also pass the hydraulic line of the top nipple through the provided guides

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/359_zpstmcvhrld.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/359_zpstmcvhrld.jpg.html)

Secure the back end

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/360_zps21kz8xag.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/360_zps21kz8xag.jpg.html)

Pull out the piston

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/361_zpsr3jioqck.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/361_zpsr3jioqck.jpg.html)

Slide the moving part of the arm into the stationary one (which goes smoothly) with due diligence and secure the other side of the hydraulic cylinder. (Before all this check the fit of the pins!)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/362_zpshougcjn0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/362_zpshougcjn0.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/364_zps3mi9n3ex.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/364_zps3mi9n3ex.jpg.html)

Some nice detailing

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/365_zpsg7qhnsce.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/365_zpsg7qhnsce.jpg.html)

I also installed the provided lock on the hook ... Will remove it later. Nobody uses it because half the time it doesn't open because the counterweight is too light.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/367_zpsnvy5coaj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/367_zpsnvy5coaj.jpg.html)

Rakthi

06-01-2015, 11:06 PM

Part 2 - connecting the 2 parts of the hook mechanism.

The parts

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/369_zps36k3tggb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/369_zps36k3tggb.jpg.html)

Per the manual, apply some grease where the bushing will fit

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/370_zpsraaxmulf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/370_zpsraaxmulf.jpg.html)

Space and bushing in place and then bolt to the already finished frame. A very precise fit by te way.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/371_zpsxafxvnca.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/371_zpsxafxvnca.jpg.html)

Both connected and shown with the parts needed to work the sliding hook and connect it to the truck chassis

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/372_zpsmvoeidja.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/372_zpsmvoeidja.jpg.html)

First the pull/push rod

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/373_zpshey6otcd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/373_zpshey6otcd.jpg.html)

Then grease applied where the bushing will go.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/374_zpsrnplzjqa.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/374_zpsrnplzjqa.jpg.html)

The part that will attach it to the frame installed. The holes indicated is where the bolts will go that hold it in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/375_zpsknnrsodv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/375_zpsknnrsodv.jpg.html)

When used as a kipper, this whole assembly will move up and the hooks will slide out to secure the container.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/376_zpssgtxagij.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/376_zpssgtxagij.jpg.html)

You can see I put the hydraulic lines above the cross brace. Will have to move them below, they might get clamped when using in roll off roll on mode. (getting the hydraulic lines through the guides was made easier by applying some grease to the guides)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/380_zpsw9cvn9re.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/380_zpsw9cvn9re.jpg.html)

Both sides done

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/377_zpsdg0zxkml.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/377_zpsdg0zxkml.jpg.html)

Quick look for fit on the rolling chassis

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/378_zpsnmawy3ky.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/378_zpsnmawy3ky.jpg.html)

And the why of those 2 little bits installed in the beginning. And no, I did not forget to put a nut on the naked bolts :)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/379_zpsawjqfxmp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/379_zpsawjqfxmp.jpg.html)

That's it for the moment.
Stephan

Rakthi

06-02-2015, 01:32 AM

Correction on the locking part of the hook. Apparently I installed it wrong way around.

Here corrected:

Open

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/381_zpsgddtmpen.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/381_zpsgddtmpen.jpg.html)

Gesloten

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/382_zpskk61snue.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/382_zpskk61snue.jpg.html)

Cheers! Stephan

Rakthi

06-03-2015, 03:08 AM

Found some time to add some small parts to the frame, namely the bits that hold / lock the driver's cabin in place.

Here the parts - all in stainless:
The 2 big hooks at the bottom are for the front.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/383_zpss2iw0pz0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/383_zpss2iw0pz0.jpg.html)

First one to go in. This part

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/385_zpssvclun0c.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/385_zpssvclun0c.jpg.html)

Goes here on the right side.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/386_zpsvpmdfklm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/386_zpsvpmdfklm.jpg.html)

Loctite applied to the nut. This part needs to stay moveable.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/387_zpsyi6clo0t.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/387_zpsyi6clo0t.jpg.html)

The second part

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/388_zpsskhuqric.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/388_zpsskhuqric.jpg.html)

Goest on here on the left side

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/389_zpsvojvipz5.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/389_zpsvojvipz5.jpg.html)

Here too loctite on the nut so the handle stays moveable.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/390_zpsninxqt7g.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/390_zpsninxqt7g.jpg.html)

Next up the bar that connects these 2 parts. (spacer nuts already in place)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/384_zpslqjmnpab.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/384_zpslqjmnpab.jpg.html)

Loctite here too.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/391_zpsvszx8drx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/391_zpsvszx8drx.jpg.html)

Finally the spring to keep it in locking position.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/392_zps0xwa0nff.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/392_zps0xwa0nff.jpg.html)

Now the front.

Hook goes here

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/393_zpswplu2w9k.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/393_zpswplu2w9k.jpg.html)

Here too loctite on the nut/bolt that holds it attached to the frame. Tightened so the handle can still move forwards and back.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/394_zpsnl7sshib.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/394_zpsnl7sshib.jpg.html)

The spring is kept in place by the thread on the bolts.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/395_zpsqkfttqyj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/395_zpsqkfttqyj.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/396_zpstvfc78dz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/396_zpstvfc78dz.jpg.html)

That's it for now. Might be another couple of days before the next update.

Cheers - Stephan

Prop Shaft

06-03-2015, 04:49 PM

So many pieces!!! Lovin it.

Newcomer_2

06-06-2015, 04:19 AM

bigford

06-06-2015, 06:19 AM

Yes, sometimes I wonder why I started on this ... but all in all it's great fun. Anyway, you should be talking with your China Cat and that nice fleet of yours! Wished I only had a fraction of your skills in building / customising scale models

Stephan

me and the china kat are not talking right now,its got its
back to me right now.
this truck looks like it will be unstopable when done

Rakthi

06-06-2015, 10:07 AM

Hi Stephan,

this is a awesome model. You will have also many fun while driving it. - And your building report is very detailed. I love this kind of reports as you know well. - Go on, I´ll stay tuned. ;-)

P.S.: Please excuse my mistakes. My English is not very well. I´m working on it.

Hi Christian, nice to meet you here :)! Glad you like the build report. And your English if better than my "Google German" as you can see below!
Of course I know you like detailed build threads! It’s yours on Modelltruck.net that got me into this! :)

For the moment we have a pauze because I’m waiting for a package from ScaleART (shipped May 27th) with the updated parts of the cab, the raised exhaust and some nipples for the hydraulics.

I could start on the container, but I keep that for when the truck is almost finished (meaning I'm struggling with the wiring :confused: ) as something to keep me from getting to frustrated. :D

Cheers! Stephan

============================

Hallo Christian, schön dich hier zu treffen :)! Gut, dass dass Baubericht dir gefällt. Und Ihr Englisch ist besser als meine "Google Deutsch", wie Sie hier sehen können!

Natürlich weiß ich, wie Sie detaillierte bauberichten liebst! Es ist wegen Ihrer auf Modelltruck.net die mich motiviert haben! :)

Am Moment haben wir pauze. Ich warte auf eine Paket von ScaleART (versendet 27/05) mit einige Teilen von die update das Fahrerhaus, der hochgezogen Auspuff und einige Nipple fur die hydraulische Leitungen.

Ich konnte natürlich mit die Mulde anfangen, aber ich warte bis das Model fast fertig ist. (Wenn ich mit der Verdrahtung kämpfe :confused: ) Denn dan habe ich noch etwas einfach um mich von Frustration zu halten :D

Gruss! Stephan

Rakthi

06-06-2015, 10:08 AM

me and the china kat are not talking right now,its got its
back to me right now.
this truck looks like it will be unstopable when done

Now that is funny! Hope you get on talking terms soon! Been keeping my eye on that thread.

Stephan

Newcomer_2

06-07-2015, 04:49 AM

(...) I could start on the container, but I keep that for when the truck is almost finished (meaning I'm struggling with the wiring :confused: ) as something to keep me from getting to frustrated. :D

Cheers! Stephan (...)

Hi Stephan,

as I can see, you´re using the new 2-wire-bus system for the light-functions. I think, there won't be any problems with it. You'll manage it easily. - So go on with the container! - Have fun! ;)

Rakthi

06-07-2015, 08:22 PM

Hi Christian, yes, I do have the Commander bus system, but you haven't seen the mess I made of the electrics in the 490LC :roll eyes: . I was thinking of sorting that out while I wait for the parts to make their way halfway around the world.

Cheers, Stephan

Rakthi

06-11-2015, 12:58 AM

A small update. Prepped the front lights for fit of the LEDs. Not a big job but at least it is out of the way.

Checked the tracking I got and the package from ScaleART has cleared customs in Kuala Lumpur. So now waiting for it to make it here. With some luck might get here beginning next week so we can get on with this.

Here the housing with the LED board. You can see that some of the openings are not completely open.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/397_zpsqrhvg0kj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/397_zpsqrhvg0kj.jpg.html)

Trial fitting showed that the circled opening was too narrow also.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/403_zpsqybmyxee.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/403_zpsqybmyxee.jpg.html)

Tools used for "fixing" the smallest drill bit in the Dremel collection (1/32" for the Americans) and a small round file.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/399_zpsntpwdgbe.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/399_zpsntpwdgbe.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/400_zpsuhrtks2t.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/400_zpsuhrtks2t.jpg.html)

2 twists with the file and perfect fit.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/401_zpsogrpz6n2.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/401_zpsogrpz6n2.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/404_zpso0ylhh9f.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/404_zpso0ylhh9f.jpg.html)

Both sides had same treatment.

Since I got them and for completeness sake, here a pic of front and back of the PistenKing LED boards

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/398_zpsbqdcdjjx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/398_zpsbqdcdjjx.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/402_zpsbbvrfna8.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/402_zpsbbvrfna8.jpg.html)

Rakthi

06-18-2015, 12:42 AM

The raised exhaust etc. arrived 2 days ago. Today found time to install it.

Ordered the raised exhaust because there is no room for the Euro 6 one on this model. By putting up the raised exhaust at least I have an indication of one. Bit weird having a model without exhaust.

So here the bits. Will only install the support for now. The rest would just be in the way during assembling the rest of the truck. Will also have to come up with a way to pretend the exhaust goes under the cab. The curved bit supplied will not do for the purpose.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/405_zpspvl1fs1m.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/405_zpspvl1fs1m.jpg.html)

Bolted the little piece to the main upright before painting. Such a little piece would be too much of a hassle.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/406_zpsrowjtumf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/406_zpsrowjtumf.jpg.html)

Main upright first. Goes here. Will have to replace 3 bolts with longer ones.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/407_zpssoqykaev.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/407_zpssoqykaev.jpg.html)

Bit fiddly but got it in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/408_zpsu5kotmgi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/408_zpsu5kotmgi.jpg.html)

Other side goes in similar spot.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/409_zps05pjbipr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/409_zps05pjbipr.jpg.html)

Before install bolted the crossbar to it. Would have no access afterwards.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/410_zpskn1rcwey.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/410_zpskn1rcwey.jpg.html)

And here I ran into a fitting problem! ... The frame from the hook mechanism is interfering.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/411_zpskmt1xkqt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/411_zpskmt1xkqt.jpg.html)

After some diligent and careful filing/fitting and a bit of paint.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/413_zpsmstztfab.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/413_zpsmstztfab.jpg.html)

Got it to fit. (also filed the bottom nut down at an angle)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/415_zpstwhzqjey.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/415_zpstwhzqjey.jpg.html)

Installed. Will replace the screw holding the crossbar to the main upright with a M2 model bolt.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/414_zps32bt82yj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/414_zps32bt82yj.jpg.html)

Had hoped for some more progress, but between the filing and waiting for paint to dry ...

Rakthi

06-19-2015, 05:26 AM

Drivetrain - Part 1

Started with the transfer case.
The support gets M2 nuts as spacers to the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/416_zpslagtibye.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/416_zpslagtibye.jpg.html)

And it attaches here

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/417_zpsmgisbkwb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/417_zpsmgisbkwb.jpg.html)

The transfer case comes with 3 M8 screws in place that need be replaced with M10 ones.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/419_zpshwnbcc0m.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/419_zpshwnbcc0m.jpg.html)

After initialling the spacer nuts on the support, I tried to fit it, but ran into difficulties ... Remember I had moved one of the tank supports one hole to the right. It now interferes with the support.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/418_zpsbs6wo8xb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/418_zpsbs6wo8xb.jpg.html)

After replacing the M8 screws on the support with one with a smaller head, and grinding a bit off the one holding the tank support, it fitted. Easy solution.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/421_zpsjpqgbu8i.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/421_zpsjpqgbu8i.jpg.html)

Support in place

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/422_zpsrgfh3gm1.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/422_zpsrgfh3gm1.jpg.html)
Transfer case screwed on.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/423_zpsfljsa6np.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/423_zpsfljsa6np.jpg.html)

Next the motor/gearbox

The motor has a thread and screws into the gearbox. It is held in place with a grubscrew.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/424_zpsuj1ddu6x.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/424_zpsuj1ddu6x.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/425_zpss1tjsk3k.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/425_zpss1tjsk3k.jpg.html)

In the kit they supply a support for the motor/gearbox. (the big stainless contraption) This is not needed in this truck since the support is part of the frame of the hook mechanism.

Luckily for me I remembered reading in Christian's (Newcomer_2) thread on the German forum (http://www.modelltruck.net/showthread.php?46059-MAN-TGS-4-Achs-8x8-Abrollkipper&p=599032&viewfull=1#post599032) that for this truck you need to use a special spacer (the small rectangular bit) which comes with the hydraulic parts.

Because this spaces is about 3mm thick, I replaced the recommended M2x6 countersunk screws with M2x8 ones. Have to be careful because the hole circled in red. You can block the gears if you get too long a screw in there.

Because the frame I have is not foreseen for countersunk screws, used regular ones.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/426_zpsnrfkete0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/426_zpsnrfkete0.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/427_zpslwqtmwi9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/427_zpslwqtmwi9.jpg.html)

Installing this unit with that spacer "floating" around was an absolute pain in the neck ... but eventually I got it sorted. According to the instructions, the motor needs to be grounded to the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/428_zpsbhbtjldf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/428_zpsbhbtjldf.jpg.html)

Rakthi

06-19-2015, 05:31 AM

Drivetrain - Part 2

Now the props hafts

First the one from the gearbox to the transfer case.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/429_zpsnfeuch5e.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/429_zpsnfeuch5e.jpg.html)

And then the rest. First did the front axles starting from transfer case, and then the rear axles starting from transfer case. The grubscrews have been generously applied with Loctite.

from below

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/431_zpsbimqayjk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/431_zpsbimqayjk.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/430_zpsonldwzqc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/430_zpsonldwzqc.jpg.html)

from above

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/432_zpshf6sqjmg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/432_zpshf6sqjmg.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/433_zpsogsgm0bd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/433_zpsogsgm0bd.jpg.html)

Trucker Al

06-19-2015, 11:08 PM

Incredible!! Keep up the good work and progress pictures..

Alan

Rakthi

06-20-2015, 04:54 AM

Hi Alen, I'm working on it :) Putting this thing together is addictive in a weird kind of way.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Now we getting to the parts that are not amongst my favourites.

Installing the cluster of servos for the transfer box lock, steering and gearbox.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/434_zps0axvvd9z.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/434_zps0axvvd9z.jpg.html)

Starting with the biggest one, steering servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/435_zpskwz4gbpb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/435_zpskwz4gbpb.jpg.html)

Installed and bits for the bowden cable attachment laid out.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/438_zpsa4taqmem.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/438_zpsa4taqmem.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/439_zpsbugfd0x6.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/439_zpsbugfd0x6.jpg.html)

At this point I figured I'd better centre these things. Rummaged around till I found my servo tester and started out centring them all. (I also did the ones already on the truck)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/440_zpsesircfcy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/440_zpsesircfcy.jpg.html)

Next up the 2 smaller ones. Right the one for the transfer lock, left the one for the gearshifts.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/441_zpsfubhoc8g.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/441_zpsfubhoc8g.jpg.html)

First the gear shift servo goes in. Only gets fastened on one side at this point. The other side gets fixed together with the other servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/442_zpsarm2hnuz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/442_zpsarm2hnuz.jpg.html)

And all three installed. Had to remove the holder for the bowden cable to get the last servo in place. Easy to do and re-install.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/444_zpswdobp0ag.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/444_zpswdobp0ag.jpg.html)

Then the whole assembly slides into the front of the frame and gets attached with 4 M2 screws. (All the holes in the frame holding the servos are threaded)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/446_zpsa6yruwo2.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/446_zpsa6yruwo2.jpg.html)

I had done a trial fitting before, and the power cables of the motor had to be bend out of the way. Very tight in there.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/448_zpsjgqystjg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/448_zpsjgqystjg.jpg.html)

Bit tricky too as the assembly has to be shoved in between these 2 rows of screws in the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/447_zpskkicneji.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/447_zpskkicneji.jpg.html)

Assembly in place (but not yet screwed on)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/449_zpsyafqkdf3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/449_zpsyafqkdf3.jpg.html)

View from below after screwing it in place

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/450_zpsmgfqbpta.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/450_zpsmgfqbpta.jpg.html)

View from the front

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/451_zpsdqpts9sy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/451_zpsdqpts9sy.jpg.html)

Next will be trimming the servo horns, doing gear box link, steering link and the bowden cables for the diff locks etc.

Rakthi

06-21-2015, 01:27 AM

Spend time on the transferbox lock.

The steel cable goes into a teflon one that goes into the metal guide ... Here a picture of what I'm talking about. (just for show)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/452a_zpsotq4knof.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/452a_zpsotq4knof.jpg.html)

Cutting the servo horn and drilling the 3rd hole out to 2mm etc.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/452_zpsetwdabrn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/452_zpsetwdabrn.jpg.html)

Decided to make the horn black with a Sharpie before I mounted it on the centered servo. (looks reddish in picture, but is black)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/453_zpsmdlcmnvm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/453_zpsmdlcmnvm.jpg.html)

Then I spend some enervating time figuring out how to run the metal tube. First I started out at the transferbox and worked my way forward, but that was a non working proposition because trying to get that flippin thing in the clamp near the servo is a nerve wrecking proposition ... Well anyway now had a good idea of how to fit it. So started from the servo and worked my way backwards to the transfer case. Shortened it there and gently clamped it in place with the screw. Then shove in the teflon hose, followed by the steel pull cable.

After I finished this bit, I took pictures of how I ran the cable.

Starting at the transferbox the cable goes towards the rear of the truck.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/458_zps4dc0gqrd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/458_zps4dc0gqrd.jpg.html)

There it goes inside the frame through one of the holes provided and swoops 180° back towards the front. I have attached to of those clamps, but I drilled the hole out to 2.5mm to make it easier to get the cable through. It does not clamp the cable, just prevents it from flopping about.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/454_zps270k53iw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/454_zps270k53iw.jpg.html)

Installed a 2nd clamp (also drilled out to 2.5mm) just before the gearbox, and from there the cable swoops up to go over the gearbox

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/456_zpsuy1ajbdi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/456_zpsuy1ajbdi.jpg.html)

And then down again to the clamp near the servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/457_zpsoqhufdxg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/457_zpsoqhufdxg.jpg.html)

There the metal and teflon hose are cut to size and the steel cable is then tensioned and attached to the servo. I haven yet cut the steel cable to size because I might need to make some adjustments once I get the radio control hooked up. The red arrow points toward where the next step - gearshift - will attach.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/459_zpsuoo4nzgq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/459_zpsuoo4nzgq.jpg.html)

Gearshift - the parts

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/460_zpspuysndrm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/460_zpspuysndrm.jpg.html)

Easiest to first attach the pull bar (tried some other approaches first)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/461_zps93qjfhuc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/461_zps93qjfhuc.jpg.html)

And then mount these bits. The clamp attaches to the servo horn pointing downwards. They show it mounted both ways in the manual.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/462_zpsrfq6apiw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/462_zpsrfq6apiw.jpg.html)

Installed. There is a mark on the bit sticking out from the gearbox that indicates 2nd gear. (This is installed with the box in second gear) The springs are supposed to be only lightly compressed. (careful, I spend about 10 minutes looking for the one that sprung away)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/463_zpsfd4y4jr4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/463_zpsfd4y4jr4.jpg.html)

And last the steering linkage

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/464_zpsa8x6zblm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/464_zpsa8x6zblm.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/465_zpsecegmfp8.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/465_zpsecegmfp8.jpg.html)

Now next would be the bowden cables of the diff locks of the axles. Hope they go in easier than the transferbox one.

Rakthi

06-22-2015, 01:24 AM

After yesterday's trouble with the bowden cable I was prepared for another ordeal. However it all turned out to go rather easy.

First attach the bowden pull tube to the axle and guide it to the clamps that were installed way back and guide it through the frame to the clamps near the servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/466_zpsgtvyzeur.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/466_zpsgtvyzeur.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/467_zpspfgcnlgo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/467_zpspfgcnlgo.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/468_zpsocsu0f1j.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/468_zpsocsu0f1j.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/469_zpskfl0m2gk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/469_zpskfl0m2gk.jpg.html)

Then insert the steel cable, make sure it moves smoothly. Then cut bowden pull cable to size.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/471_zps4iv3pgbw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/471_zps4iv3pgbw.jpg.html)

Attach steel cable to the puller on the axle - I used a loop there before I put in the screw - and push cable till it comes out at the servo. (If I do this again, I will insert a screw in there before I even mount the axles to the frame. Saves a lot of fumbling)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/472_zpsrdftl5km.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/472_zpsrdftl5km.jpg.html)

For those who wonder how the bowden is clamped in place on the axle:

The hole through which the tube goes is attached with a screw. You have to loosen this one a bit so you can push the hose through. Afterwards just tighten a bit and hose is clamped in place without being crushed.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/473_zpse5tqabuo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/473_zpse5tqabuo.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/474_zpshgzj8dwb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/474_zpshgzj8dwb.jpg.html)

The next axle is same procedure

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/475_zpsnwwggeud.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/475_zpsnwwggeud.jpg.html)

I first tried to run the pull cable through the indicated hole in the frame, but that just complicated things. So went straight to the previously installed clamp.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/476_zpsjoyejkal.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/476_zpsjoyejkal.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/477_zpsunxls0jo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/477_zpsunxls0jo.jpg.html)

Tensioned up and eft some extra for possible later adjustments. Cut all the cable ends shorter and added a dab of crazy glue to stop fraying.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/478_zpsvhqic8vv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/478_zpsvhqic8vv.jpg.html)

Was going to stop here, but then noticed that the left over bits from the rear axles were more than enough to do the front ones too. (so still have a complete set of cables from the front axles that should sufficient to redo the lot) Again same procedure, but routing is way simpler. (did have to take of the steering linkage for the 2nd axle to be able to get the the screw that allows the cable to be attached to the axle. Since it was off I also adjusted the tracking that was a bit off)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/479_zpsu1hvdml4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/479_zpsu1hvdml4.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/480_zpszim223du.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/480_zpszim223du.jpg.html)

On a side note ... when I installed the motor/gearbox I left the cables from the servos dangling where they were ... not a smart move. Took some fiddling to get them where they belonged.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/470_zpsuvhrxkme.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/470_zpsuvhrxkme.jpg.html)

Well, now is the time to get out the remote control and start fine tuning the servos and checking gearshift and steering before I start on the driver's cabin etc.

Rakthi

06-23-2015, 08:58 AM

Spend time sorting out the settings. Lucky the RC is pre-programmed by ScaleART for their models. Saves a lot of time. Just pick the variation you want and you got the basic settings.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/483_zpsw1yqv8in.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/483_zpsw1yqv8in.jpg.html)

Of course they still need a bit of fine tuning.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/481_zpsyakw1f1j.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/481_zpsyakw1f1j.jpg.html)

Had a bit of a problem with the ESC ... took me a while to figure out how to do it. First spend time looking for the jumper before I realised it was already on the ESC although on the wrong pins. Then couldn't get the jumper off the pins so I could move them to the program pins to "marry" the ESC to the Sender. Had to cut the heat shrink off. Also having the instructions in technical German was a tad confusing ..

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/482_zpshowgmruc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/482_zpshowgmruc.jpg.html)

Well got it all sorted

Just one little problem ... mixed up the plug position from the trailer coupling servos with that of the gearbox servo and succeeded in burning out the one from the gearshift ... Lucky the one from the trailer coupling in the back is the same. So guess I will have a manual trailer coupling until the new servo I ordered arrives.

Meanwhile the truck has moved under its own power. Now just sort out some little niggles in the servo settings. Like why the front diff lock servo locks the diff when I turn on the power etc.

Rakthi

06-24-2015, 12:17 AM

I was lucky that to replace the fried servo I did not need to take the whole contraption out of the frame. Was a bit tight, but succeeded in doing it without major surgery. Before I replaced the burned on with the one from the trailer coupling, I followed Propshafts method of cutting off a bit of the rubber around the wires. Made it much easier to get the screw in, and as an added bonus I can now get the wire away from the servo horn of the centre diff. (So thank you Propshaft!)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/486_zpsrxk8d8jq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/486_zpsrxk8d8jq.jpg.html)

Just look at the difference.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/493_zpsfrdpymfe.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/493_zpsfrdpymfe.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/453_zpsmdlcmnvm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/453_zpsmdlcmnvm.jpg.html)

So that's one very burned servo ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/484_zpschmbjoqe.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/484_zpschmbjoqe.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/485_zpsjecyhrth.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/485_zpsjecyhrth.jpg.html)

All because firstly, I was so stupid not to label the plugs correctly, and secondly I didn't check the numbers on the slots small as they might be ... Lesson learned.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/487_zpsvwwzapet.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/487_zpsvwwzapet.jpg.html)

Guess the servo burned out because the trailer coupling was set for the full 100% sweep, thus keeping the servo trying to reach its endpoint.

All that is sorted now. Made easy peasy with the Commander Sender. Here adjusting the rear diff lock servo. Only needs about 50% of it's travel to be locked.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/489_zpsofcihtlb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/489_zpsofcihtlb.jpg.html)

And the problem with the servos of the centre and front was just reversing the directions of operation.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/490_zpslh8tzsi5.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/490_zpslh8tzsi5.jpg.html)

So all servos now have their limit of travel set, so no more buzzing or juddering anymore.

Then check the tension on the pull cables and trim them to size. Adding a bit of crazy glue at the ends so they don't fray.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/491_zps2wd91kkn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/491_zps2wd91kkn.jpg.html)

The liquid electrical tape I ordered arrived yesterday. Going to use that to on the LED board of the rear lights instead of the home made piece of rubber.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/492_zpssmokj9kw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/492_zpssmokj9kw.jpg.html)

Prop Shaft

06-24-2015, 04:50 PM

Looking great. Glad my little trick could help.

Rakthi

06-25-2015, 02:43 AM

Yup Propshaft, one of those things I would never have thought about. :)

Started on the driver's cabine.

Part 1 of this group.

Before screwing things together "dry fitted" some parts and noticed that the white from the cabin shows through the "teeth" at the front.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/496_zpsm7nhoyjc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/496_zpsm7nhoyjc.jpg.html)

So decided to do something about that and paint that bit black (I could have used tape like Christian - aka Newcomer_2 (http://www.modelltruck.net/showthread.php?55020-ScaleART-Mercedes-Benz-AROCS-Fahrerhaus) but not to be found here on this island).

Here I had another senior moments and first time around I painted the bottom part which doesn't need it. Good thing one can's see that bit once everything that needs bolting on is bolted on.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/497_zpsvg7z5w7s.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/497_zpsvg7z5w7s.jpg.html)

Here the first step of this group. (getting that blue plastic film of the plastic was about the most difficult and tedious thing of this part of the build) I got a bit of black speckles from the spray paint on the back. No biggie as the back of this part will not be visible.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/498_zpskaa2g0ag.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/498_zpskaa2g0ag.jpg.html)

The plastic and the little black cover are put in place. The headlight will bend the plastic in place. A bit tricky to do. The little hole in the plastic is in case one wants to install the headlight protection grid. The bolt for that needs to go in that place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/499_zpscconddjn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/499_zpscconddjn.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/500_zpsvhwqjytp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/500_zpsvhwqjytp.jpg.html)

Next up the LED boards which are held in place by the steps. (in photo supposed to be 3 self tapping screws instead of 2)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/501_zpss85v8v5u.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/501_zpss85v8v5u.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/502_zpsnvsx76qq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/502_zpsnvsx76qq.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/503_zps7wiyzzqv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/503_zps7wiyzzqv.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/504_zpsrjj0tjwl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/504_zpsrjj0tjwl.jpg.html)

Tread "rubber" glued in place. Manual says to use 2 component stuff, but used crazy glue.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/506_zpshhhvrzt9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/506_zpshhhvrzt9.jpg.html)

Now the lower step and the metal bits that are part of the upgrade for the AROCS Cab. Needed because otherwise too easy to bend/loose the lower step if one goes off-road with the truck.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/507_zpswkwibnya.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/507_zpswkwibnya.jpg.html)

Here one can attach the on/off switch. the 2 openings are to line up with the bigger holes and is where this assembly bolts to the chassis.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/509_zpsqorubwkc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/509_zpsqorubwkc.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/510_zpsrcu3eawp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/510_zpsrcu3eawp.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/511_zpszvqorzti.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/511_zpszvqorzti.jpg.html)

Rakthi

06-25-2015, 03:03 AM

Part 2

Finishing off the front of the bumper.

The square nuts are where the bolts go that attach this part to the chassis. There is an indent in which they fit very tightly.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/512_zpsx9siwsc4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/512_zpsx9siwsc4.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/513_zpsyocdrclq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/513_zpsyocdrclq.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/514_zpsnnx7ootu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/514_zpsnnx7ootu.jpg.html)

Bottom part of the bumper. Same as above. The square nuts from the bolts holding this assembly to the chassis fit in an indent.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/515_zpsszt4vwww.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/515_zpsszt4vwww.jpg.html)

The thin bar gets glued with four drops of glue in the small openings provided.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/521_zpsjjntbnhj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/521_zpsjjntbnhj.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/520_zpsf8dmpnqv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/520_zpsf8dmpnqv.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/516_zps1xntcb4y.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/516_zps1xntcb4y.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/517_zpssxqkjv6r.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/517_zpssxqkjv6r.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/518_zpsd9mp34uc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/518_zpsd9mp34uc.jpg.html)

Next part should be the doors if I follow the manual.

Rakthi

06-25-2015, 11:45 PM

Did not get around to the doors. Decided to install the fender parts first. Seemed like a simple job. Remove wheel and bolt on.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/522_zpso0023gbt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/522_zpso0023gbt.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/523_zps1lkofcjb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/523_zps1lkofcjb.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/524_zpsjd86jvbl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/524_zpsjd86jvbl.jpg.html)

Didn't like the inside to be so white, so painted it black.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/525_zpsrymcx5q9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/525_zpsrymcx5q9.jpg.html)

So I needed to use black bolts instead of the stainless screws. I only have those in M2x10, so cut 6 of them down to size and filed the cut mark

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/526_zps9q9spj8e.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/526_zps9q9spj8e.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/527_zpsicvtxowk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/527_zpsicvtxowk.jpg.html)

Easier to write about than to do it. Mighty tight in there and the axle is in the way for access to the bottom 2 nuts on this left side.

Well, if the left side was mildly enervating, the right side was close to frustrating. Barely room to fit the nut. So only picture of the thing installed.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/529_zpsa8whvhgf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/529_zpsa8whvhgf.jpg.html)

If I ever get around to building another one of these, I will install these two bits before I even touch the axles.

Then "just" attach the bumper to the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/530_zpsw26gvwp0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/530_zpsw26gvwp0.jpg.html)

Tight ... but it fitted. One just has to fiddle to line all the parts up. There's not a mm to spare - especially on the bottom. One has to admire ScaleART for the tightness of their designs and the close tolerances of the parts.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/532_zpszioabd2d.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/532_zpszioabd2d.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/534_zpsbwu5k7uz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/534_zpsbwu5k7uz.jpg.html)

A channel to run the wires is foreseen in the bumper.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/533_zpsgfxmnbeo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/533_zpsgfxmnbeo.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/531_zps1xudf8w4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/531_zps1xudf8w4.jpg.html)

thercfreak2012

06-26-2015, 09:29 AM

Love the progress and the project regards Jake

Brel

06-26-2015, 05:40 PM

My oh my and I thought a Tamiya truck had too many nuts and bolts but these Scale art trucks win the nuts and bolt gold medal every time, Nice work on the build so far. can't wait to see it built and painted

Rakthi

06-27-2015, 04:11 AM

Hi Jake, Thank you! Glad you like it. :)

Hi Brel, one of the reasons I ended up buying this kit was the amount of bits and pieces. For me the more the merrier. As for color ... I couldn't make up my mind when I placed the order, ScaleART emailed a bunch of photos of the cabin in different colours. I thought white suited best. The container will be in bleu though.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Doors ... Part 1

ScaleArt give the option to go for the extended door or the short one. I decided for the short one.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/535_zpse5jibj7f.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/535_zpse5jibj7f.jpg.html)

What you get (the screws put in by ScaleART to prevent paint clogging up the threads are still in place)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/536_zpscruxosd3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/536_zpscruxosd3.jpg.html)

Before I continued I made an indication of the window rubber with a black felt tip stift. This breaks up the "whiteness" a bit.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/537_zpsnu4yeoqz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/537_zpsnu4yeoqz.jpg.html)

All the parts. (forgot one self tapping screw in the picture)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/538_zpsra32yz2k.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/538_zpsra32yz2k.jpg.html)

Here how it is supposed to fit together.

First the metal parts that will be the door hinges/support. In the package there are 4 thick rods and 2 thin ones. Of the 4 thick ones 2 are a bit shorter than the other. Those go toward the front of the door. They are shorter to clear the plastic of the window.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/539_zpsg0kiwhbo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/539_zpsg0kiwhbo.jpg.html)

Metal plate to hold hinge/support to the door.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/540_zpsxwop3yyz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/540_zpsxwop3yyz.jpg.html)

Optional carpet

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/541_zps8gvx5gh5.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/541_zps8gvx5gh5.jpg.html)

Door panel (will be screwed down with 2 short and one longer screw)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/542_zpsq7hxsn0q.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/542_zpsq7hxsn0q.jpg.html)

Before we screw all this together, after peeling the film of the plastic of the window, we have to attach the mirror support with a self tapping screw. This holds the window in place at the same time.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/544_zpsdwunjxiz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/544_zpsdwunjxiz.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/543_zpstbb8evlg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/543_zpstbb8evlg.jpg.html)

Finished and screws blackened with a Sharpie (door handle outside is glued in place) - The Magnet at the bottom of the door is supposed to glue into place, but I had to firsts clear the paint out of the provided spot with a 4mm drill, tried a dry fit, it clipped place and couldn't get it out again. So not glued. The other door same story.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/547_zpsezrgra00.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/547_zpsezrgra00.jpg.html)

Rakthi

06-27-2015, 04:21 AM

Doors - Part 2

Not really the doors, more the sides of the cab.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/548_zpsioqg6lxo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/548_zpsioqg6lxo.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/549_zpshmnlyiia.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/549_zpshmnlyiia.jpg.html)

The black plastic strip is fastened with 3 self tapping screws

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/550_zpsnythyajt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/550_zpsnythyajt.jpg.html)

Next we screw in the galvanised iron screw that the magnet will stick too. (I cut that one in half, half way thru screwing it in it became pretty hard to do, and worried my screwdriver might slip out of the slit resulting in a big scratch ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/551_zpsvl6nw3cp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/551_zpsvl6nw3cp.jpg.html)

Next the fender/step part of the cabin. Held in place with one regular M3 screw and 2 self tapping ones. The indicator lights i painted orange yesterday and trimmed and fitted them already.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/552_zpsoa1blbtj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/552_zpsoa1blbtj.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/553_zpsaabslzxs.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/553_zpsaabslzxs.jpg.html)

Both sides finished, the right side has the extension on the black plastic for the dead angle mirror.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/556_zps9fd7fcst.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/556_zps9fd7fcst.jpg.html)

Next step will be the front of the cabin that will hold these two bits together.

Rakthi

06-28-2015, 03:34 AM

Oh dear, today was the "comedy of errors"

No clue what happened. Must be getting old.

Next step, as said, the front of the cab.

All the parts needed.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/557_zps5svvvpkk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/557_zps5svvvpkk.jpg.html)

Reverse of main pieces

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/558_zpsmturhpir.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/558_zpsmturhpir.jpg.html)

First I started with inserting the pins into the holders. These are the pins that go into the front locking mechanisme on the frame. (you can see the grooves at the top where they flare out a bit)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/559_zpss4lmob5s.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/559_zpss4lmob5s.jpg.html)

I could barely push them in the holes, so had to run a 2mm drill through them. Then needed a rather heavy hammer to drive them home.

Next i installed the black metal piece and the speaker. So far so good.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/562_zpsqdb15fvj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/562_zpsqdb15fvj.jpg.html)

Prepped the 2 stainless steel parts for installation and installed it. (forgot to take picture)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/563_zpsu2w34gbw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/563_zpsu2w34gbw.jpg.html)

Turned over the part and put the 2 separate black plastic grill bits in place. They will be held down with the next part.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/565_zps4erbs7lc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/565_zps4erbs7lc.jpg.html)

The outside part of the grill goes on top.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/566_zpscxn04xgb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/566_zpscxn04xgb.jpg.html)

And gets screwed in with 2 self tapping screws from the back on the far left/right side of the black plate holding the speaker. The 2 previously installed stainless parts I had put on the wrong side of ledge they screw on too - and to think I checked a couple of times to make sure :confused: :roll eyes: I only noticed this when I tried to fit it to the locking mechanism.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/567_zps7wcreyur.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/567_zps7wcreyur.jpg.html)

Supposed to look like this ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/577_zpsczbqclzw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/577_zpsczbqclzw.jpg.html)

Next I wanted to attach the back of the Mercedes Star ... it screws in from the back ... so had to remove the speaker for access

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/568_zpslvacnwcd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/568_zpslvacnwcd.jpg.html)

Also almost used the wrong kind of screw ... Needs to be a regular countersunk one.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/569_zpsez4rnlnp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/569_zpsez4rnlnp.jpg.html)

Installed

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/570_zpsesk4kdza.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/570_zpsesk4kdza.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/571_zpsveusnybj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/571_zpsveusnybj.jpg.html)

After sorting the stainless supports, test fitted on the front lock

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/572_zps1kydguok.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/572_zps1kydguok.jpg.html)

And tilt works fine too

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/573_zpsjnnuoyun.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/573_zpsjnnuoyun.jpg.html)

In the above picture you can see the holes that will be used to attach the sides of the cabs. The hexagonal shaped ones will hold the nuts and the middle one is for the little wind guide on the side.

Rakthi

06-28-2015, 03:44 AM

Now bolting the sides to the front

The two M3 Allen bolts go through from the inside to the nut on the outside.
The whole thing is neatly designed. However ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/574_zpsc5hh7luy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/574_zpsc5hh7luy.jpg.html)

The door has a rather big gap ... Reason is why I have the red circle above. The casting is too rough at the hinges. Will need to be filed down. Apparently this is because this is one of the first batch of Arocs made. The later ones do not have this problem.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/575_zpshlxnlsob.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/575_zpshlxnlsob.jpg.html)

The other side same problem

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/580_zpsejq5cwqz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/580_zpsejq5cwqz.jpg.html)

Didn't yet sort it out. Just bolted it up as it was. Will sort it out tomorrow.

Both sides installed

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/578_zpsvlquzyhd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/578_zpsvlquzyhd.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/579_zps8330meh5.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/579_zps8330meh5.jpg.html)

And a quick fit on the frame to get an idea. (Cab leans too far back because it's not properly supported yet)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/576_zpsie0zsrku.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/576_zpsie0zsrku.jpg.html)

So I guess tomorrow I will be filing away at the door frames

Prop Shaft

06-28-2015, 06:59 AM

Looking fantastic. Some epic engineering on his rig. Shows you where your money is going.

tc1cat

06-28-2015, 08:00 AM

While the truck does look outstanding and does have some great engineering in it, it should not have all of the design flaws in it for what you pay for the kit. Even for an early production kit, there have been too many small errors to correct for the cost. I know that I would have been pulling my hair out long ago over the many errors that have been corrected in just the chassis and now to find more in the body. This is not acceptable in my eyes.

I am not ripping the truck as it does look great, just the many overlooked design flaws which Scaleart should have addressed before marketing the truck.

Prop Shaft

06-28-2015, 08:17 AM

Rakthi

06-28-2015, 11:25 PM

Hi Prop, yup, bolting this thing together I keep being impressed by the way things fit together, holes line up etc etc. Someone spend a lot of time thinking about this. When I put the front bumper on the frame I was expecting some problems because you got a lot of parts and assemblies coming together there. The only "problem" was finding the access for the Allen key.

Which brings me to tc1cat's comment ... Yes, the kit is expensive, but I do feel I have gotten value for the money. I have no idea which design flaws caught your attention. I didn't notice any.

There were 4 missing hydraulic parts, a couple of wrong sized screws (easily replaced), one ball joint with a wrong thread, missing insulator on rear lights and the sliding hook part of the hydraulic mechanism that turned out to be a bit of rough machining (easily sorted). The missing parts were send out after an email. If I had found the balljoint with the wrong thread and the missing insulators at the same time, they would have included those too. So no problems there. Follow up is fantastic.

The raised exhaust not fitting well. Considering this variation is sold without exhaust, it was upon me to sort it out. The raised exhaust is not meant for this model, so can't blame them for it not fitting.

For the rest, everything went together as it flawlessly. Some of it required a bit more thinking than others, but most of that was because I didn't strictly follow their guidelines or misinterpreted the technical drawings. Most if not all of the mistakes in this thread are caused by my own inattention or simple stupidity like mounting the supports for the locking mechanism on the wrong side or putting things in the wrong order.

The rough casting where the door hinge fits I sorted just now in about 10 minutes. Not a deal breaker for me. Neither is having to run a 2mm drill through a hole to make life easier, shortening a screw a tad or remove some paint to make something fit.

All I can say is that 99.99% of the parts fit perfectly and the 0.01% is an easy fix. Just looking at the workmanship and engineering of the parts is a pleasure.

Would I buy one again (given enough disposable money)? No question about it. This kit is an absolute pleasure to assemble.

Now off to locate my soldering stuff ... next step is the roof and for that I need some wiring sorted out. Will post the pics of the fitting of the doors in the next update.

Cheers.

tc1cat

06-29-2015, 08:34 AM

Stephan,

Design flaws are anything that does not fit correctly the FIRST time. Not after you modify a part or screw to get things to fit. This is something that most of us expect with a Tamiya kit due to their use of plastic parts which are known to bend during production. The needed filing of the door hinge slots is the last one you showed us. Lack of fore thought on Scalearts part to allow for paint/powdercoat thickness is a design flaw to me. Having to modify a bolt head to get a part in place is a design flaw. You have had to do this more than once if I remember correctly. You saying that most of the little things that you had to fix are not deal breakers is fine BUT you should not have to do this in a Scaleart vehicle. Scalearts attention to detail should make for a kit that goes together flawlessly. Their use of longer than necessary bolts that you need to shorten during assembly is a cost saver for them which should not be necessary for a kit of this expense. Even the most inexpensive Tamiya kit uses correct length screws and bolts. While I haven't looked at the frame rails in your latest pics, they looked like someone's test rails from 2 or 3 trucks with all of the holes in them. Hopefully, these holes have all been used by now. If not, this is a flaw for me plus it weakens the frame if not used. I know that you mentioned that these rails are used for several different trucks but give me a break. Extra holes are still unacceptable in a frame unless you remove a part from a stock frame rail.

Please remember that this in my opinion and not someone elses.

With all of this said- would I get a Scaleart vehicle--- YES!!! But probably not as a kit unless it was the only way to get it. Their attention to detail would be the reason. Have to win the lottery though to be able to purchase one :D:D

Prop Shaft

06-29-2015, 08:41 AM

Concidering kits like this and Capo are 10 times more intricate then your standard rc kits. The amount of deficiencies are on par. If a standard kit takes 100 steps to build and you find one problem, no one says anything. A 1000 steps for something like this and you find 10 small issues and people seem to only see the bad. Or think that for something that costs so much it should be perfect. It all seems pretty relative to me though. **** ive built most of RC4WD's offerings for instance. And the problems with their models well exceed any ive encountered building Capo's. Given the choice to have 4 or 5 run of the mill scalers from the mainstream manufacturers, or just one super scale offering from Capo or Scaleart, or Afv or whoever. I'll go with the super scale offering every time.

Rakthi

06-30-2015, 12:04 AM

Hi tc1cat, well if you want to see it that way ... About the screws I trimmed down. The ones from the under run protection can be installed without trimming. But that means you have to paint the little parts separately. Easier to grind a bit of the screws. The other one, where I had some trouble with the transfer case, well, shouldn't have moved the support of the oil tank one opening over so its fastener came in te way.

Allowing paint thickness? Considering the size of the parts and the fact that it is a human doing the painting, would be asking a bit much I think.

The openings in the frame ... yeah, actually to be true to scale, they need even more of those. Might not be like that with US trucks, but EU trucks all have lots of holes in their frames. Have a look at the Mercedes-Benz UK website (http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/content/unitedkingdom/mpc/mpc_unitedkingdom_website/en/home_mpc/truck/home/new_trucks/model_range/arocs/arocs/facts/Chassis/frame.html).

And the screws that need shortening ... there are probably more screws in the frame than in your run of the mill kit. Why add another €100 to an already pricey kit if all it takes is 15 minutes to shorten them.

We can keep arguing about this till the cows come home. :)

Cheers!
Stephan

Rakthi

06-30-2015, 12:17 AM

Didn't get much done today ... soldering is not my strong point.

Since I was doing it, did the 2 LEDs for the indicators as well as the position lights which will go in the roof of the cabine.

They supply ample wiring and shrink tubing

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/587_zpsly1qba2o.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/587_zpsly1qba2o.jpg.html)

The resistors are not needed because I use ScaleART's bus system.

Finished product:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/588_zpsvxujolls.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/588_zpsvxujolls.jpg.html)

After this I painted the outside of the white LEDs black so only the tip has the light come through. (A tip from Christian - aka Newcomer_2). Then couldn't continue with the roof because I had to wait for the paint to dry.

Didn't take pics during soldering. basically, solder red wire to long + of LED. 2 mm shrink tube, then solder black one to the short - of LED, 3mm shrink tubing to go over both, followed by 6mm shrink tubing over the LED. The indicators get a yellow and grey wire instead of a black one so you can keep them apart.

Here the pics of the doors after the filing (as luck would have it, I have a file of exactly the right width):

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/583_zps949kyewc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/583_zps949kyewc.jpg.html)

While I had it all apart some pics of how it fits together. This is really thought out.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/585_zpsil14hifq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/585_zpsil14hifq.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/586_zpspdcgw9dp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/586_zpspdcgw9dp.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/584_zpskbkzbecm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/584_zpskbkzbecm.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/582_zpspjan8w68.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/582_zpspjan8w68.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/581_zpsslrk3upj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/581_zpsslrk3upj.jpg.html)

Next up the roof and the sun vizor ...

Roundabout

06-30-2015, 04:02 PM

nice updates you do, didn't think it was that long ago i took a look last, but **** there has happened a lot, keep up the good work!

1strodeo

06-30-2015, 04:50 PM

I can't even imagine how much this kit costs,, don't get me wrong,, its pretty amazing looking but , wow

Rakthi

07-01-2015, 06:46 AM

Hi Roundabout ... When I started on this I figured to bolt some things together on and off over the weekend for the next year or so, but turns out I keep putting things off to make time for this kit. Guess I spend about 2 - 3 hours every "session". Kind of addictive this thing ... actually been eying the bank account to see if I could swing another kit ... scary ...

1strodeo, nope not cheap, price is somewhere on page 2, post #36. But must say, worth every penny (or is that Eurocent). Just looking at the details and finish of the parts makes it worthwhile.

1strodeo

07-01-2015, 07:59 AM

Wow,, that is up there, ,but it really is a beutiful kit,, and super detailed.. I can see how it could be addictive.. But really isnt everything in this hobby. Good luck with it, can't wait to see the finished product.

Rakthi

07-01-2015, 11:58 PM

Hi 1strodeo, kind of can't wait myself to see it finished. But I don't want to rush it either.

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This part is the roof and the visor. This also includes the sound module that gets attached to the roof. This is still with the SMX one, If you check the ScaleART on-line shop, the trucks being sold now are with the smaller SM7. Maybe that one can go under the cabin.

The usual picture of all the necessary bits (excluding the screws)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/589_zpskqku0esd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/589_zpskqku0esd.jpg.html)

First I put the roof lights in. (This being an early production cabine, I had to enlarge the holes to fit the LEDs from 2mm to 3.5mm)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/590_zpsbnejisiv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/590_zpsbnejisiv.jpg.html)

Then remove the lens from the mold (or whatever it is called) and test fitted. The visor opening needed to be filed a bit at an angle.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/591_zpszrlufxhr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/591_zpszrlufxhr.jpg.html)

Having done this at both sides (hardly visible) time to attach the visor to its support.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/592_zpsud50tjla.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/592_zpsud50tjla.jpg.html)

Easiest is to start with the 2 in the middle and then do the ones at the corner. (the size of the nuts/screws make this one of those colourful language moments :rolleyes: )

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/593_zpsgvzhnddh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/593_zpsgvzhnddh.jpg.html)

Shorten the screws and then tighten the nuts with the 2.5mm driver

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/594_zpsioawmjjr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/594_zpsioawmjjr.jpg.html)

Mixed some 2 component glue to fix the lenses for the LEDs

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/596_zpsijijepxv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/596_zpsijijepxv.jpg.html)

Applied with one of those dental tools with the fluffy bit cut off.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/595_zpsw4cnfgzk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/595_zpsw4cnfgzk.jpg.html)

Whilst waiting for the glue to set, continue with the rest of this assembly

The roof hatch and its fastener. This is partly L shaped so the sound module can not shove forwards. Gets screwed together with 2 self tapping countersunk screws.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/597_zpswonbxbba.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/597_zpswonbxbba.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/598_zpsrkyjkjnx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/598_zpsrkyjkjnx.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/599_zpslmwm41bl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/599_zpslmwm41bl.jpg.html)

Followed by the sound module ... can't make up my mind how to install it ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/600_zpsocfvzmlw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/600_zpsocfvzmlw.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/601_zpstaecjolr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/601_zpstaecjolr.jpg.html)

Can go in both ways ... will have a look see at the paperwork that came with the electrical package to see how and where all those cables end up. And I better find a way to organise them a bit too.

As for the visor ... the glue might be fast after 20 minutes, but it will take 72 hours for it to really set ... Bummer ... figure I better wait, I tried fitting it, but even after one hour the LED still succeeded in pushing the lens a bit out.

And yes, I filed the sharp ends of those screws.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/602_zpsx2rqwj4m.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/602_zpsx2rqwj4m.jpg.html)

Guess I will pass the time with sorting wiring, prepping back of cabin and starting on the seats and other interior parts.

Till next posting
Stephan

Newcomer_2

07-02-2015, 02:17 AM

Hi Stephan,

this is really a fantastic building report! - The cables of the sound module beneath the roof you can organize for example in this way:

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5230

I'm looking forward to your next update and stay tuned. :)

Newcomer_2

07-02-2015, 02:26 AM

Ohhh ... I can´t see my uploaded pictures! ... Hmmm?!? ... I'm probably doing something wrong.

You also can have a look on my Facebook-Site. There you'll find a photo album which shows the assembly of the AROCS driver´s cab. You might find some pictures concerning the cables.

Link to the photo album: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.796721687073524.1073741828.792045444207815&type=3

Rakthi

07-02-2015, 04:45 AM

Hi Christian, thanks for the link! Will be a great help now and further in the build. Now I can double check my interpretation of the technical drawings.
Looks like a good thing I finally found a place that sells shrink tubing in different sizes here on the island.

Cheers, Stephan

Rakthi

07-04-2015, 02:16 AM

So yesterday I finished of the roof and the rear of the cab

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/603_zpssvzdq15a.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/603_zpssvzdq15a.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/605_zpsebwcjnrq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/605_zpsebwcjnrq.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/604_zpsqahch1mt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/604_zpsqahch1mt.jpg.html)

Re-installed the Sound Module with the cables split up and put into shrink tubing as per Christian's suggestion.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/606_zpsr5savxso.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/606_zpsr5savxso.jpg.html)

Then on the back of the cab

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/607_zpse3szc4cu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/607_zpse3szc4cu.jpg.html)

One of the 2mm screw holes not completely drilled through

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/608_zpskr32gmun.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/608_zpskr32gmun.jpg.html)

The parts that need attaching. (the rectangular air vents I glued in with super glue)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/609_zpszpizi4gf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/609_zpszpizi4gf.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/610_zps73mfifgv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/610_zps73mfifgv.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/611_zpstt9ab68z.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/611_zpstt9ab68z.jpg.html)

This is where it locks onto the chassis.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/612_zpstqq9qhuu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/612_zpstqq9qhuu.jpg.html)

Next part is the air inlet

Filed the back of the grid a bit down so it fitted a tad better.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/613_zps7bysivnn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/613_zps7bysivnn.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/614_zpsedlsjsq6.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/614_zpsedlsjsq6.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/615_zpstbse9yya.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/615_zpstbse9yya.jpg.html)

Only one self tapping screw and washer used in this

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/616_zpsiuw0ywiu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/616_zpsiuw0ywiu.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/617_zpszhfklrhh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/617_zpszhfklrhh.jpg.html)

Rakthi

07-04-2015, 02:52 AM

Today, I started off with the SMX Sound Module ...

Took it off the roof again and had a good look at it. Turns out the bit under the cooling plate is basically empty with the plate seemingly just sitting on one chip. I figured it made more sense then to install it with the heavier parts towards the roof.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/618_zpsezh509df.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/618_zpsezh509df.jpg.html)

I also took off the shrink tubing I had put on yesterday. I had tested a couple of times, but unlike Christian (Newcomer_2) I could not get the wires with the shrink tubing to go through the cable channel provided. I guess the "Made in China" tubing available here is thicker and less flexible. So ended up bundling the wires with bits of shrink tubing.

The top wire bundle is power and speaker, the middle single one is Function 3 which is not used according to the electrical plan, and the bottom bundle are the rest of the wires. (hookup esc etc)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/619_zpsrrwxfh4u.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/619_zpsrrwxfh4u.jpg.html)

So I tried to program it as in the Servonaut Manual (http://www.servonaut.de/shop/media/products/0136608001345107990.pdf?XTCsid=il54f794ekl1gerh59n qi4pfs3) ... I left the bottom bridge on the pins for the in-line 6 cylinder engine (checked MB website, and Arocs have an in-line 6 power plant), and took out the top pin to start the programming. (wanted to turn off the peep-peep when going backwards - can't stand that sound)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/620_zpssym8rfdh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/620_zpssym8rfdh.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/621_zpsauou9fxf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/621_zpsauou9fxf.jpg.html)

Didn't cut off the cable for Function 3, just tucked it under the unit in the space left there by the roof hatch.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/622_zpsnnynryvj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/622_zpsnnynryvj.jpg.html)

Roof goes on with 4 M3x8 screws and some lock washers.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/623_zpswn4ckflh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/623_zpswn4ckflh.jpg.html)

Then the back goes on. The little pins go in the holes provided. The wires get tucked into what will become the wiring channel.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/624_zpswercj0xv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/624_zpswercj0xv.jpg.html)

The reason I had to take of the shrink tubing is that I couldn't get a decent bend near the roof. This way it was easier to control.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/625_zpst10m2loo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/625_zpst10m2loo.jpg.html)

Back bolts onto the roof with 2 m3x6 and 1 M3x8 (in the middle). It bolts to each side with 2 M2x8.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/626_zpsh7yucuju.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/626_zpsh7yucuju.jpg.html)

The m2x8 go into these provided slots on the sides.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/627_zps511y8gtk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/627_zps511y8gtk.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/628_zpsa9qohatq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/628_zpsa9qohatq.jpg.html)

Continued ...

Rakthi

07-04-2015, 03:04 AM

Tried the cabin on the chassis.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/629_zps5xvkjiwz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/629_zps5xvkjiwz.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/630_zpslddnokrd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/630_zpslddnokrd.jpg.html)

Tested the locking mechanism

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/631_zpsg1wzw07r.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/631_zpsg1wzw07r.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/632_zpsnjyj4aoa.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/632_zpsnjyj4aoa.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/633_zps1vrypnu4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/633_zps1vrypnu4.jpg.html)

Now time for the air intake to be put on. (takes 4 M2.2x6 self tapping screws). 2 in the roof and 2 in the back.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/634_zpsd8ijgnaz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/634_zpsd8ijgnaz.jpg.html)

Alerted by the pictures in the link Christian provided, I knew there would be a problem with the locking mechanism interfering with the intake. So only temporary screwed on with 2 screws.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/635_zpschq1s5vx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/635_zpschq1s5vx.jpg.html)

So a bit of plastic had to go. (the cut will be cleaned up)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/636_zpsgdjemkqj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/636_zpsgdjemkqj.jpg.html)

Now proper install of the intake. Found that it was easiest to first do the top part.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/637_zps1s5oio2y.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/637_zps1s5oio2y.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/638_zpseteh8rm1.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/638_zpseteh8rm1.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/639_zpsgysaga0l.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/639_zpsgysaga0l.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/640_zpskm0vh3tt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/640_zpskm0vh3tt.jpg.html)

Next up would be the interior of the cabin.

Rakthi

07-05-2015, 12:18 AM

On with the next group.

We start of with the windscreen. This could not be installed earlier otherwise wouldn't be able to attach the intake.

Consists of a window, front cover and 3 self tapping screws

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/641_zpsbd5rpe2z.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/641_zpsbd5rpe2z.jpg.html)

The window needs to be bend a bit to get behind the sides. Also need to be aware of good positioning at the roof. I got mine stuck wrong on one of the screws of the visor. And I got some paint damage in the lower corner form not paying attention when bending/inserting it. Lucky the black cover goes over it.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/642_zpsjlee90tl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/642_zpsjlee90tl.jpg.html)

Gets all fastened on the inside. Access through the bottom. Was very happy with the bendable extension I have. Was worried the screwdriver would jump and scratch the plastic.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/643_zpsm6nm6gvy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/643_zpsm6nm6gvy.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/644_zpsz1vnuca8.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/644_zpsz1vnuca8.jpg.html)

Next the floor parts. Assembled with countersunk screws.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/645_zpsjnxuu0xi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/645_zpsjnxuu0xi.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/646_zpsjmhusddq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/646_zpsjmhusddq.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/647_zpsqvjfo1os.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/647_zpsqvjfo1os.jpg.html)

No way I can glue the optional carpet on when installed in cabin ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/648_zpsnzyjzmqy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/648_zpsnzyjzmqy.jpg.html)

So attach the needed screws. Already complicated enough getting the "carpet" on straight without having to deal with screws all over the place. (Carpet can be repositioned if not right first time around)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/649_zpsltn66eo9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/649_zpsltn66eo9.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/650_zpsxw1waqij.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/650_zpsxw1waqij.jpg.html)

Both side pieces attached first, and the center piece goes in from below. Had to loosen the nuts from the side pieces to make it easier to get the center bit in place. Very tight tolerances.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/652_zpsrdhdpybi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/652_zpsrdhdpybi.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/653_zpsmffn9k4q.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/653_zpsmffn9k4q.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/654_zpshgbep5ui.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/654_zpshgbep5ui.jpg.html)

Continued ...

Rakthi

07-05-2015, 12:31 AM

Now have to do the back ledge of the interior.

For this we first need to attach the circuit board for the wiring in the cabin. This will make it possible to remove the cabine with only one plug to disconnect.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/661_zpshiayee9g.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/661_zpshiayee9g.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/662_zpseapk39gw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/662_zpseapk39gw.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/655_zpsotckbpym.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/655_zpsotckbpym.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/656_zpss2v4rdtv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/656_zpss2v4rdtv.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/657_zps1pzpqts7.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/657_zps1pzpqts7.jpg.html)

However ... connecting all those cables with the board attached will be a pain. So removed it for the duration. It can be attached again later.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/658_zpseccscpbj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/658_zpseccscpbj.jpg.html)

The backboard goes in through the doors and I was surprised how easy it slipped in place. Had expected worse.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/659_zpstfvzlpqr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/659_zpstfvzlpqr.jpg.html)

It screws in from the bottom. The hole in the plate is threaded.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/9YdVr_zpsc6aovn9b.jpeg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/9YdVr_zpsc6aovn9b.jpeg.html)

The manual specs M2x6 ... however this makes the screw poke into the cabin with a mm or 2. Replaced those screws with M2x4s left over for another group. Perfectly flush now.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/660_zpsxcg01zrg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/660_zpsxcg01zrg.jpg.html)

Noticed I had forgotten the seat bases. Supposed to be bolted on before installing the floor. Still easily done good access from below.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/663_zpsdzjqgszg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/663_zpsdzjqgszg.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/664_zpstphde7rx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/664_zpstphde7rx.jpg.html)

Next up the seats and dashboard or maybe I do the cabling first ... (so not looking forward to that bit)

Cheers
Stephhan

Rakthi

07-05-2015, 06:25 AM

No point postponing jobs you don't like ... since nothing much going on today, bit the bullet and messed with the electrics of the cabin.

Sod's luck of course ... the bleeding power cables of the SMX are ½ inch too short ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/666_zpsbz7yanev.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/666_zpsbz7yanev.jpg.html)

Inserted the LED for the indicators and attached them with a blob of hot glue. Kind of regret it, I made an error and when removing the glue, part of the paint came with it. (right side). Well one can't see it, and thinking of painting the underside of the fender black anyway like in real life, so no big loss.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/667_zpsnlk686qz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/667_zpsnlk686qz.jpg.html)

Globbed some liquid tape on the back of the circuit board. Not really needed, but better safe than sorry with electricals.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/668_zpsc8ulqeoh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/668_zpsc8ulqeoh.jpg.html)

Inserted the 2 plugs and the Function 4 cable of the SMX plug. Since the speaker stays in the cab, I could actually just have soldered the wires together instead of making this convoluted connection. :rolleyes: oh well ... The speaker cables from the SMX were too thick to go into the provided holes.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/670_zpslvx0akwm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/670_zpslvx0akwm.jpg.html)

Rummaged through the bits and pieces one accumulates and found a female JST (?) plug that fitted the power of the SMX Module. Came with one of my chargers, but never used it. Also fitted the Universal Bus thing to the circuit board. I could have run that one separately to the bus connectors in the lower level, but then one extra plug to undo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/671_zpsccblmocm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/671_zpsccblmocm.jpg.html)

Bolt the circuit board in place, which went easier than I expected.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/672_zps05cezuto.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/672_zps05cezuto.jpg.html)

And now to deal with the KingBus system. The wires need be coated in some solder to make them stiffer, and then you can push them in the round hole where they clip in. To release them put a thin screwdriver in the rectangular slot and push down. (I didn't know this)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/673_zpsch8eppti.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/673_zpsch8eppti.jpg.html)

All good an well for the single or double cables, but the 4 positive ones ... so I soldered them together and filed them to a reasonably small pin. (sorry shoddy pic but you get the idea) I know there are probably connectors in which you put the cables etc etc ... Wish I knew how they were called and where to get them.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/674_zpsx7nb7oxe.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/674_zpsx7nb7oxe.jpg.html)

All the cables inserted in the module

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/675_zpsnqedo6in.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/675_zpsnqedo6in.jpg.html)

Module glued to the side of the cabine with the provided double sided tape.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/676_zpsbvihsdkb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/676_zpsbvihsdkb.jpg.html)

And a view of the mess ... left all cables long enough so I can be redone if needed. Thinking of cutting some foam to hide it from sight.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/678_zps6to08jsx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/678_zps6to08jsx.jpg.html)

So all in all this little exercise kept me busy for 3 hours + ... and I don't know if it is correct until I sort out the rest of the electric.

Cheers!
Stephan

Ken Orme

07-05-2015, 09:21 AM

Thank you for posting all the pictures of the build. It must have taken as much time to do as it did to build the kit.

Ken O

Rakthi

07-05-2015, 10:44 AM

Hi Ken, taking the pictures doesn't take that much time at all. Just a cheap autofocus camera that is not too good at close-ups. My other one was better but that one became unreliable and started losing pics. This is the third build where I take pics, has become part of the process.

Getting the nuts on some of those screws takes way more time. :)

Anyway, glad you like it!

Best regards!
Stephan

Rakthi

07-06-2015, 08:18 AM

Finishing of the cabine - Part 1

Started with the seats

Left the passenger seat and right the driver's seat. Neatly packaged and best not opened together and parts mixed as there is a definite left and right seat.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/679_zpsbqp9q8xz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/679_zpsbqp9q8xz.jpg.html)

Started with passenger seat

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/680_zpsodcmhhzc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/680_zpsodcmhhzc.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/681_zpsxz1bb2d4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/681_zpsxz1bb2d4.jpg.html)

These parts supposed to be glued together with super glue, but after I test fitted them they were solid as can be. So left them as they were. If I ever find the right material I can then make a miniature safety belt like the guys in Germany do. :)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/683_zpsokscmuiq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/683_zpsokscmuiq.jpg.html)

Screws on to base

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/685_zpsxlxxptrt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/685_zpsxlxxptrt.jpg.html)

Seat cushion next

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/687_zpskbxirxsa.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/687_zpskbxirxsa.jpg.html)

Bolts on from below with the same self tapping screws (one you do not see because I used one of my black ones.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/688_zpswy5ethxp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/688_zpswy5ethxp.jpg.html)

Passenger seat right side

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/689_zpskgrbrxry.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/689_zpskgrbrxry.jpg.html)

Left side

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/690_zps6kwuspd2.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/690_zps6kwuspd2.jpg.html)

Both finished

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/691_zpsxlfn5keh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/691_zpsxlfn5keh.jpg.html)

Next steering wheel and steering column

The covers get glued on with super glue.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/692_zpsy9k0x5yo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/692_zpsy9k0x5yo.jpg.html)

Make sure the square nut is well seated. In this picture it is not right. sits too high and then the cover doesn't fit.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/693_zpsbxsdsjun.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/693_zpsbxsdsjun.jpg.html)

Sticker of instruments stuck to the provided piece of plastic

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/694_zps2ps1zy2i.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/694_zps2ps1zy2i.jpg.html)

The steering column attached to the driver's side dash with 2 M2x10

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/697_zpsrtdlm1qa.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/697_zpsrtdlm1qa.jpg.html)

Top of the dashboard and passenger's side. The little part is painted in silver by me. Only part I put some paint on. Don't trust myself to paint the little buttons etc.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/695_zpsagpnshkv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/695_zpsagpnshkv.jpg.html)

Rakthi

07-06-2015, 08:24 AM

Part 2

Other side

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/696_zpsrkvwgfqz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/696_zpsrkvwgfqz.jpg.html)

Prepping to put the parts together

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Here missed some pics - got distracted by the cats who caught some critter and let it loose in the house.

Missing step is screwing the lower part of the dashboard on.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/699_zpsvp6v8wse.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/699_zpsvp6v8wse.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/700_zpsmhqjvlmr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/700_zpsmhqjvlmr.jpg.html)

Prep the whole console for installation in the cabin. Gets attached with 2 M3x6. Lazy and just took the ones that were used for painting.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/702_zpsoyqvvyga.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/702_zpsoyqvvyga.jpg.html)

Installed. The left one had to be removed otherwise can not get the console in place. Getting that one screw in is about the most difficult part of this whole job.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/703_zps5tc2auia.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/703_zps5tc2auia.jpg.html)

Now the seats go in. Also install screws before inserting in cab. Slots are provided for that in the base

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/701_zps0loarylf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/701_zps0loarylf.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/704_zpslumgmqjw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/704_zpslumgmqjw.jpg.html)

Next is the mirrors and other miscellaneous bits. I didn't take pictures here because it all gets glued together with super glue. Don't like working with it as it sets fast and you can't afford mistakes.

Not a difficult job really. Here is picture of the page in the manual

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/709_zpscdgs8vsm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/709_zpscdgs8vsm.jpg.html)

Part of the mirrors were labeled wrong. The bigger part of the main mirror needs swapping L en R. Pic is of the left mirror. The mirrors can be adjusted.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/705_zpsrqddw4e9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/705_zpsrqddw4e9.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/707_zpsquscrcl4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/707_zpsquscrcl4.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/708_zpsrlldypmf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/708_zpsrlldypmf.jpg.html)

That's the driver's cabin done with. Now back to the more interesting bits which is finishing the hydraulics. Probably start on that later in the week.

apfubar

07-06-2015, 04:11 PM

Looking good!

egronvold

07-07-2015, 02:39 AM

Nice colors :)

Brel

07-07-2015, 06:52 PM

looks great as a rolling chassis without the roll on/off equipment fitted

crisis time

07-07-2015, 08:59 PM

Amazing build so many screws :jaw:
keep up the great work

Rakthi

07-09-2015, 06:09 AM

@ apubar - Thank you Andrew! It was thanks to your post on the German forum that made me realise I had to file out the hinges. I remembered reading about it. Sure helped big time! Sure glad the cabin is finished. Always worried of scratching the paint.

@egronvold - Must say am rather happy with the white and black myself. Looks better than I thought it would.

@Brel - look great indeed but is rather front heavy at the moment. So could do with some weight at the back. Once the roll on/off stuff is on there should still look good without a container.

@ crisis time - The amount of screws is what makes it fun!

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Haven't done anything to the truck yet. From reading other threads on ScaleART and looking at pictures, I know there is no decent way to prevent the hydraulic lines from swaying when going from the 2 main cylinders to the oil pump. ScaleART fixes them to the cylinder with some shrink tubing or smal zip ties, not really a nice solution all things considered.

So I figured to be "creative" and see if I could make some things to hold the line to the cylinder.

After more than a couple of failed attempts I finally figured out how to make these simple looking things.

Got the width down that I could work with the tools available to me

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/710_zpsboegpcrt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/710_zpsboegpcrt.jpg.html)

Messing cut into almost same width strips with scissors

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/711_zpsvwylki9i.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/711_zpsvwylki9i.jpg.html)

Bend - the driver has the same diameter as the line.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/712_zpswytk4wii.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/712_zpswytk4wii.jpg.html)

Filed

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/713_zpseeblerjc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/713_zpseeblerjc.jpg.html)

Make roundish by bending with pliers in small increments (repeat until about right)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/715_zpsvg2p2zqk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/715_zpsvg2p2zqk.jpg.html)

One done

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/714_zpswjip8ybs.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/714_zpswjip8ybs.jpg.html)

4 done

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/716_zpssstbp7i4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/716_zpssstbp7i4.jpg.html)
and painted.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/717_zpsddhfgcmo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/717_zpsddhfgcmo.jpg.html)

Not installing them yet. Will first so a test fitting of the hydraulic cylinders and see if I can use them yes or no.

All I can say it that making these 4 simple things has made my respect for those who whip out whole models from scratch, go a lot of notches higher!
Hat off.

Newcomer_2

07-09-2015, 06:35 AM

Hi Stephan,

that´s a great idea and a well done work. I think, I'll try to copy them. ;)

Rakthi

07-09-2015, 09:15 AM

Hi Christian, Thanks and I'm glad I finally came up with something you might be able to use. Better wait and see if it works though. If I can use them I will just glue them holders to the cylinder with UHU Endfest.

Newcomer_2

07-09-2015, 10:04 AM

Hi Stephan,

ok, I'll stay tuned ...

If you fix them with glue, I think there should be a little space between the cylinders, the lines and the holders, so you'll be able to change the lines if they once become leaky.

tc1cat

07-09-2015, 10:48 AM

Looks like a great solution to loose hydraulic hoses. Hope that they will work for you. You might want to try some rubber cement to attach them to the cylinder- not sure what cement you mentioned is.

Rakthi

07-09-2015, 10:58 AM

Good point Christian, thought about that too! Will only glue the holder to the cylinder first. There should be just enough room to push the hose through without too much effort once the glue has set. That is why I first want to try with a temporary fix (zip tie or tape)on the holders, to make sure the hose does not move too much or rubs. Last thing I want is a leaky hose spouting hydraulic oil! :)

Will see, maybe I have some time tomorrow. Will have to take a good look on how to run the hydraulic lines too.

Rakthi

07-09-2015, 11:02 AM

Looks like a great solution to loose hydraulic hoses. Hope that they will work for you. You might want to try some rubber cement to attach them to the cylinder- not sure what cement you mentioned is.

The cement is a 2 component one. Once hardened takes an awful lot of force to break the bond. Brilliant stuff for glueing metal. Probably overkill for this application, but it's the only glue I have suitable for metal.

You are right though, before I glue it like that, I will first try with something less strong.

Thanks for the suggestion!

Stephan

Rakthi

07-10-2015, 06:19 AM

Started on the hydraulics

Prepped the 2 main cylinders. Basically cleaned them of the hydraulic oil that had seeped out.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/718_zpsptpsinoe.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/718_zpsptpsinoe.jpg.html)

Added the nipples

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/719_zpstgbxswcj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/719_zpstgbxswcj.jpg.html)

Added some hydraulic tubing so you can see what happens if not constrained in some way.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/720_zpstxnsayn0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/720_zpstxnsayn0.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/721_zpsefyhcbkr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/721_zpsefyhcbkr.jpg.html)

No problem when completely extended.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/722_zpso4bpotpc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/722_zpso4bpotpc.jpg.html)

Anyway had to bolt the roll on / of part to the chassis. When I tried to take it off I ran into a problem ... one of the bolts holding it in the back sheared off :mad:. A true WTF moment. Didn't figure I had tightened it that hard. When I took the bolts off on the other side, another one lost it's head :eek:. both of them were the ones at the back of the frame. :confused:

This is the part I'm talking about.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/375_zpsknnrsodv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/375_zpsknnrsodv.jpg.html)

Here one of the pieces with the sheared of head. (the other bolt is temporary inserted. Is on the wrong side of the part)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/723_zpsgq6b5r2j.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/723_zpsgq6b5r2j.jpg.html)

Well, spend the rest of the day drilling out the rest of the screw. Stainless steel too. Took forever and broke 3 drill bits. Got both of them out, and luckily the parts are still useable. :)

No clue what happened. They were not cross threaded, but were jammed solid. Noticed when I removed the part that is was slightly bend where the bolts were. Should have tightened those 4 bolts evenly. Another lesson learned.

Reinstalled the roll on/off assembly on the chassis and everything goes together smoothly. So basically no harm done apart from a couple of scratches made by the drill. But you can't see those anyway.

Hopefully next session will be less stressful :)

Rakthi

07-11-2015, 02:21 AM

Had the reason for my little mishap explained by a person way more proficient in mechanical matters. When I screwed in the bolts, the last couple of turns were not smooth. Most probably this was caused by the black stuff or contamination on the threads. I had previously installed the Roll on / off stuff but never completely tightened the bolts. I should have stopped at once tightening the bolts and taken them back out. Then chase the threads with a tap or else put some copper grease on the bolts. Oh well water under the bridge.

Before I continue here a picture of page in the manual. Makes it easier to follow this posting.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/725_zpsbtdrrof4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/725_zpsbtdrrof4.jpg.html)

Spend yesterday evening messing with the placement of my holders and got it all kind of figured out. Glued them on last night and let them cure overnight.

This is where I glued them. top one about 1 inch (2.5cm) from the top and the bottom one about 4.5 inch (11.5 cm) from the top.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/724_zps38w9cjgw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/724_zps38w9cjgw.jpg.html)

The top one should have been further out. Had to unscrew the nipple to be able to attach the hydraulic hose. Which meant I had to replace the 2 seals also. (Plenty of spare ones supplied)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/726_zpspzmpt9tk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/726_zpspzmpt9tk.jpg.html)

Both cylinders with hoses attached. I make a bit of an error ... the one on the op the hose should point inside. Had to redo that one later in the game. The hose comes rolled up and it does pay to work with the way it is curled.

Following the manual, the small ones are 5 cm and the long ones about 17.5 cm.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/728_zpsobdqbkge.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/728_zpsobdqbkge.jpg.html)

Now time to fasten the cylinders to the frame and the rest of the mechanism. I had forgotten about those cir-clips.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/729_zpscifnh3mx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/729_zpscifnh3mx.jpg.html)

Found a way to get them on without too much trouble. Got tweezers that fitted in the opening, and then just stuck in a flat screwdriver and slowly turned the blade opening the clip - did have a couple fly off though, but there are a spares.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/730_zpsoi7do77r.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/730_zpsoi7do77r.jpg.html)

Cylinders installed, and connected the short hoses. Immediately I got a knick :mad: Bugger ... replaced it and same story. Ended up with a piece of only 4cm before it behaved itself. It is a pain getting the hoses and the holder on the nipple, but it is even harder getting the bleeding thing off again. Do hope I never have a hose failure.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/732_zpskw3ak3qn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/732_zpskw3ak3qn.jpg.html)

Here a view from the other side after finally (4 tries!) getting the bit of hose to stay in shape.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/736_zpstkucggqa.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/736_zpstkucggqa.jpg.html)

The longer hoses have to cross over to fit. Here is where the natural curve of the hose comes into play. By having one of the hoses bending the "wrong" way the whole thing got skewed.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/733_zpskwlnbtdl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/733_zpskwlnbtdl.jpg.html)

Connector towards the valves of the short hoses and the longer one after replacement now giving a better curve and not trying to twist away when the cylinders go up.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/734_zpsbsclc1vp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/734_zpsbsclc1vp.jpg.html)

and the long ones joined to the line for the valves.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/740_zps71txjy7m.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/740_zps71txjy7m.jpg.html)

The rear ones just cross over and run through the holes in the cross members of the frame towards the valves

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/738_zpsoo4vkotq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/738_zpsoo4vkotq.jpg.html)

Gets a bit busy at the transfer box. The hoses are far enough from the shaft. Only look close in the picture. Might run the 2 hoses coming from the main cylinder over the ones coming from the back though. (noticed I already have surface rust ... sub tropical climate and sea air takes it's toll!)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/739_zpstlgovpz4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/739_zpstlgovpz4.jpg.html)

All end up here labelled and waiting to be hooked up to the valve body. Sill have to do the lines coming from the tank.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/735_zpsjyyanbiu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/735_zpsjyyanbiu.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/737_zpszknwxyzt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/737_zpszknwxyzt.jpg.html)

ScaleART delivers the truck with 2.5 meter of hydraulic hose. I had ordered an extra meter just for safety sake. That meter turned out to be 1.25 meter. After finishing this part I measured the left over hose and have about 1.30 meter left. I made some extra pieces so there is enough hose with the kit.

Now nursing my sore fingertips. Getting those metal locks on the hoses sure takes its toll. :)

Next would be the oil tank and it's lines. According to the drawing they seem to indicate to run the pressure line underneath? Seems a tad weird because that way prone to getting stuck to things when in "rough" terrain.

Stephan

Rakthi

07-11-2015, 10:24 PM

Short update. Am not really happy with the way the 2 short hydraulic hoses run. Just doesn't look right at all.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/743_zps3bphkai1.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/743_zps3bphkai1.jpg.html)

So had another look at it. Took that bit out. For some reason I have about 5 extra nipples so nothing was stopping me to do some little experimenting. I only tightened the nipples about 2 turns, so they could move freely and came to this result:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/744_zpsfnx0q4xn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/744_zpsfnx0q4xn.jpg.html)

This looked much better and still sticks to the 5 cm ScaleART recommends as length for these pieces. I did try longer pieces of hose thinking to run them through the holes in the holder, but then the coupling connecting them pushes up the other hoses that then interfere with the hook sliding back and forth.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/745_zpsjtisnntj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/745_zpsjtisnntj.jpg.html)

Final installation. Looks much better. Will have to clean up all those bit of loose paint I scraped while messing around and do some retouching. A small bit of double sided tape to hold the coupling in place might prevent further paint damage.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/746_zpsziqzhui6.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/746_zpsziqzhui6.jpg.html)

While I was at it took a picture of the back to show how the hoses run there.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/741_zpsbanqwk6b.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/741_zpsbanqwk6b.jpg.html)

That's it for today. My head is not really with it so I better leave it for now before I make another stupid mistake.

Stephan

Rakthi

07-13-2015, 06:53 AM

Good thing I took some time out. Realized that with the hook mechanism in place and hooked up to the valves, I will no longer be able to move it up or down until pump and electrics sorted out.

Then I would no longer be able to sort out the rear lights! So that is what I did today.

Got the rear lights of

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/747_zpszk0ymg00.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/747_zpszk0ymg00.jpg.html)

Removed the shrink tube

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/748_zpsnkuittfh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/748_zpsnkuittfh.jpg.html)

Covered the back with Liquid Tape and screwed it back on to the support with M2x5 self tapping screws I sourced on the bay. Followed my own advice and first put on the lights and then pulled the wire through the frame. The new shrink tubing is 3mm one. Could barely get the wires through so used some silicone grease on them. The tubing has not been shrunk so it's way more supple too.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/749_zpsthfesdhg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/749_zpsthfesdhg.jpg.html)

Bus connector for the 2 rear lights.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/750_zpsnputhe8j.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/750_zpsnputhe8j.jpg.html)

Cable is too short to go al the way to the front. So extended it. Made sure the connections were spaced to avoid a thick area where the 2 unions are. Put some of the Liquid Tape on them before I pulled it through the shrink tube.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/751_zpsoadk7te0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/751_zpsoadk7te0.jpg.html)

Lights plugged in. (only shrank the tube at beginning and end)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/752_zps68kv8ebq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/752_zps68kv8ebq.jpg.html)

Bus connector installed inside the cross beam for now. Have to sort out a cover for it later. (Looks like all my wires and hoses are crossing one another)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/753_zpsnqjjjevk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/753_zpsnqjjjevk.jpg.html)

Looked at installing the servo for the trailer coupling, but that will be a real pain in the neck without taking the hook stuff off. I'm just going to forget about that for now.

Stephan

Rakthi

07-14-2015, 06:36 AM

Started off with the servos for the valves.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/756_zpsu5emnblv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/756_zpsu5emnblv.jpg.html)

They get controlled with these two knobs. The further left of right you turn, the wider the valve opens. I am sure they also control the pump through one of the mixer functions.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/755_zpsicus5nt4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/755_zpsicus5nt4.jpg.html)

The valve body. The indent indicates the valve is in the middle potion (closed)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/757_zpsozwjnmiy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/757_zpsozwjnmiy.jpg.html)

Side view

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/758_zpseumvjdwi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/758_zpseumvjdwi.jpg.html)

top view

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/759_zpswakv9gjn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/759_zpswakv9gjn.jpg.html)

Front view

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/760_zpsexwmlfzu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/760_zpsexwmlfzu.jpg.html)

What hose hooks up where

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/761_zps3scndebf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/761_zps3scndebf.jpg.html)

Servo horns cut and corners in plastic cut as per instructions. Pressed in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/762_zpsj5zweycq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/762_zpsj5zweycq.jpg.html)

Servos attached.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/763_zpsh8ldhtaz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/763_zpsh8ldhtaz.jpg.html)

Got some unwanted assistance from one of our cats

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/766_zpsaumtqs0o.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/766_zpsaumtqs0o.jpg.html)

Test fitting tank so I can finish the hydraulics ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/764_zpsb59nomby.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/764_zpsb59nomby.jpg.html)

And bummer ... I had to move that support didn't I ... the screw holding the earth wire of the motor interferes with the tank support forcing it too much towards the back so I will never be able to get the fender in place

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/765_zpspeniw1bq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/765_zpspeniw1bq.jpg.html)

Tried different solutions, didn't want to mess with the tank support so ended up filing the head of an M3 bolt down to almost nothing - lucky it is only to hold the earth wire - until it the tank fit in place. If I had left the support in place or moved it over one opening more towards the front this would not have been a issue.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/767_zpsjcrkk2gy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/767_zpsjcrkk2gy.jpg.html)

Hopefully next update I will get around to fixing the tank in place and finishing the hydraulic connections - time permitting.

Stephan

Trucker Al

07-14-2015, 11:51 AM

Great update Stephen. I love this project and I am following it every day.
Great work !!

Alan

Rakthi

07-14-2015, 11:34 PM

Hi Alan, thank you for letting me know! Makes me happy to know you enjoy the updates! Too bad I haven't got the time for one today.

Have to fix the gate camera. Someone cut through the low voltage wiring. :mad: A real bugger of a job repairing that thin cable.

Cheers! Stephan

Rvjimd

07-15-2015, 07:51 AM

Holy cow what a LOT of small parts! This is going to be really cool when you get it running!:)

Jim

Rakthi

07-16-2015, 02:32 AM

Hi Jim, indeed lots of parts that need assembling. Wish I had the room to place it and the time to learn how to use the equipment to make my own parts like you did. :)

Stephan

Rakthi

07-16-2015, 03:11 AM

Before I can finish the hydraulics. I need to sort out the oil tank/pump part.

First the straps that hold it to the frame. After removing the bit of shrink tubing that protects the threads, you can see that some of the solder has contaminated them

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/768_zpsxsfs36xh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/768_zpsxsfs36xh.jpg.html)

Lucky I had an M2 thread cutter. So a couple of minutes later

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/769_zpski9qd8fb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/769_zpski9qd8fb.jpg.html)

As seen on other people's threads, the tank straps are having black rubber underneath. I could use some rubber from an old bike tire, but scaled up from 1/14.5 to 1.1 that bit of rubber would be way to thick. Ended up glueing two pieces of PVC film to one another and cutting some strips and gluing them to the straps with super glue.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/770_zpsaiyyeyjk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/770_zpsaiyyeyjk.jpg.html)

Installed the tank. The PVC - stainless and Super Glue didn't work. PVC film buckled. Something to deal with later.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/771_zpss3uejbh6.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/771_zpss3uejbh6.jpg.html)

After trying different paths for the hose to go from pump to valve body ended up with this. Looks close to both props hafts, but plenty of room really. Very hard to get a picture of it. And those 4mm clamps that go on the nipple are absolutely impossible to get on. Used a 4.5 mm wrench as aid. (As seen in one of Newcomer_2's threads)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/775_zpsuuccuc5s.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/775_zpsuuccuc5s.jpg.html)

After sorting how to run both 4mm hoses. Have to connect the 2 hoses from the small kicker cylinder.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/774_zpsvf5gss7x.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/774_zpsvf5gss7x.jpg.html)

Then attach the 2 4mm hoses, and the rest of the connections. A bit of a job all this. Not really much room the work in. Found it was easier to get the nipples on the hoses and then attach to the valve block. The 4 nipples on top are not tightened yet to allow me to move the hook mechanism up and down. In the picture you can see one 3mm hose underneath the 4mm one at the chassis. I'll get back to that one ... :rolleyes:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/776_zpskixpqvy9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/776_zpskixpqvy9.jpg.html)

After this tightened up de straps of the oil pump after cutting 2 new strips from the PVC film. This time I just shoved it under the straps before tightening them. Works fine.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/777_zpskefvem2i.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/777_zpskefvem2i.jpg.html)

The electrical wires from the motor fitted just in between the curvature of the motor and the tank holder

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/779_zpseelsgbxz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/779_zpseelsgbxz.jpg.html)

View of the back side of the Valve box

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/780_zpsn1asz1mg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/780_zpsn1asz1mg.jpg.html)

That brings us back to the hose I mentioned before ... Good thing I checked, as it turned out that I had swapped the 2 hoses. So had to take the whole thing out again and move those 2 from place. Of course they had to be the ones I installed first.

Anyway about 15 minutes later... much better.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/781_zpsl4iqvrlt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/781_zpsl4iqvrlt.jpg.html)

And since I was at it, here the pictures of the return line I forgot to take

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/782_zpsui6uhvma.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/782_zpsui6uhvma.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/783_zpsqo7ywjre.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/783_zpsqo7ywjre.jpg.html)

Now I have to figure out how to run the electrical wires to the front and sort it out on that end. This might take me some time.

Stephan

Trucker Al

07-16-2015, 01:32 PM

I'm loving this build. Thanks for the update..

Rakthi

07-17-2015, 04:42 AM

Hi Al, you're in luck .. didn't think I would have the time today to work on the truck.

Well, spend yesterday evening a couple of house googling images of roll on/roll off kipper, abrollkipper, haak kipper and whatever language variation I came across. All this to see how other people run their hydraulic line from the pump. Not much to be found though. Found 2 who ran underneath and 2 who went up and over.

So guess what ... decided to do the whole connection to the valve block again.
I had left some of the lines too long being worried of getting them too short.

New direction pressure line

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/800_zpseprrwgom.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/800_zpseprrwgom.jpg.html)

Top view

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/786_zpsmjia7k4w.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/786_zpsmjia7k4w.jpg.html)

Side view

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/789_zpsikotrvxh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/789_zpsikotrvxh.jpg.html)

In the course of redoing the connections, I had seen that the hose from the small cylinder tucked away behind the valve box had a kink in it. I feared I would have to take the whole lot off, but succeeded in removing the nipple, and replace the hose without unbolting anything else. Just enough room to go in from the top. Getting the nipple back on after replacing the hose was a true "zen" experience.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/791_zps3za32nfj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/791_zps3za32nfj.jpg.html)

Shoved the + and - wire of the pump in a shrink hose and ran it to the front.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/790_zpsmuib7vvb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/790_zpsmuib7vvb.jpg.html)

Since the servo wires are way to short, decided to see if I could fit an extension wire so it would be easier to make a repair at a later date. Inserted a 6mm shrink tube in-between frame and motor and behind the rear diff servo. This would allow me to pull 2 extensions through after removing the plugs.

Couldn't get it to work in a decent way. The bowden cables from the rear diff locks and their servo are hampering anything on the chassis beam there.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/801_zpstsvwfwjj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/801_zpstsvwfwjj.jpg.html)

So tried to go the other way ... also didn't work. The connector is just too big.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/792_zps14sdcdc3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/792_zps14sdcdc3.jpg.html)

So soldered it together staggered to prevent the big clump when they are all soldered in the same place. This way don't have to worry too much about them shorting on each other either.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/793_zpsv4mzzldf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/793_zpsv4mzzldf.jpg.html)

Still add some of the liquid rubber since I have it anyway.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/795_zpspx7x8jzg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/795_zpspx7x8jzg.jpg.html)

Wires from servos fixed and valve box ready to be closed.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/796_zpsksgr7qd3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/796_zpsksgr7qd3.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/797_zpsyvfepos7.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/797_zpsyvfepos7.jpg.html)

Sorted (also retouched the paint a bit)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/799_zpsgklne4z3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/799_zpsgklne4z3.jpg.html)

All electrics are now in front, so next is my least favourite part of this build: the electronics and wiring, although I can still do the fenders first :p

Almost forgot, I have put the side under run protections in such a safe place I can't remember where I put them. :o

Cheers, Stephan

Rakthi

07-17-2015, 05:14 AM

Here a pic of what needs sorting ... actually is not THAT bad (I hope) but those cables from the cabin have to somehow join here. (Already happy I paid the extra for the Bus system, saves a lot of wiring!)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/798_zpsgxpghhui.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/798_zpsgxpghhui.jpg.html)

Stephan

Rakthi

07-17-2015, 09:44 PM

Found the side under run protection.

just have to be careful to have them in the right position and to stick the little pin in the right hole.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/802_zpsfuqdxsmx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/802_zpsfuqdxsmx.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/803_zpsjvvpq2ac.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/803_zpsjvvpq2ac.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/804_zpsqrsun1ci.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/804_zpsqrsun1ci.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/806_zpsbhcv0pij.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/806_zpsbhcv0pij.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/807_zpsiz5lwlbv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/807_zpsiz5lwlbv.jpg.html)

Haven't fixed it to the chassis yet. Will first sort out the wiring to get this thing running.

Till then

Stephan

Trucker Al

07-18-2015, 11:20 AM

Wow! What a entanglement of wires, and not a lot of room. Still you are doing a great job..Can't wait for the next installment...

Alan

Rakthi

07-18-2015, 07:54 PM

Hi Al, lots of wires, but actually compared to the "before Kingbus" era, it's not that bad ... Before you would have all the wires from the individual LEDs and miniature lamps. Just imagine having another 20+ wires :eek: ... Seen some pictures on the German forums that give me nightmares.

Wasn't going to post until I got a working or partially working project, but would be too many pictures - already have to split this up. So here goes - a dry run on how to install this stuff.

Part 1

Before you can mess with the wiring, you need to build the box that will hold all the various bits - this in itself another marvel of engineering. (I must sound like an advert for them, but you really have to handle this stuff to appreciate the meticulous attention details)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/808_zpsjvhkxc8k.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/808_zpsjvhkxc8k.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/809_zpsgyj64h4g.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/809_zpsgyj64h4g.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/810_zpslbzc9hyj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/810_zpslbzc9hyj.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/811_zps9cmgeffu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/811_zps9cmgeffu.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/812_zpse3almzip.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/812_zpse3almzip.jpg.html)

Later in the game I found that the long screw on the right in the picture should be about 1/2mm more to the right. These screws will hold the board which all the connectors for the power.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/813_zpsfsn9mpvg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/813_zpsfsn9mpvg.jpg.html)

Next the wire that connects the cab electrics (a detailed color code is provided)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/814_zpswzjvvmf0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/814_zpswzjvvmf0.jpg.html)

An approximation on how to install it all according to the manual. (The manual provides alternatives for those people who don't use ScaleART stuff)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/815_zpslyrxdfjt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/815_zpslyrxdfjt.jpg.html)

Lid goes on top

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/816_zpseqos9lcs.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/816_zpseqos9lcs.jpg.html)

Battery in place

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/817_zpserbr4qli.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/817_zpserbr4qli.jpg.html)

Rakthi

07-18-2015, 08:31 PM

Part 2

Now time to try this on the truck with all the wires. At this point I didn't know what to do with all the wires, so I just shoved them randomly through the openings. What I noticed immediately is that, yes you can probably get the bottom plate on the chassis, but it sure interferes with the front lock/kip mechanism from the cab. Ended up trimming some from that area.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/818_zpsgj3bgz7x.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/818_zpsgj3bgz7x.jpg.html)

Forgot to take pics after cutting the bits of. So here some I took later.

Trimmed bit on the left side of the truck - could have trimmed of a bit more actually

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/828_zpsk0wspgos.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/828_zpsk0wspgos.jpg.html)

Right side - had to trim at an angle because of the shape of the holder for the flat cable connector

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/829_zpsuzdpjbgk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/829_zpsuzdpjbgk.jpg.html)

Then on with installing it and bolting it to the previously installed holders.

Here the screw that is 1/2mm out comes into play. I already filed out the hole (needed to move the screw a bit to fit the connector board) but apparently not enough. I had to file a bit off the holder too.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/823_zps1ydtx6ga.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/823_zps1ydtx6ga.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/824_zps21j7bbhf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/824_zps21j7bbhf.jpg.html)

Once these 2 problems are sorted, the rest just fits perfectly. Those screws "click" in those holes with authority. This just makes you forget the 2 previous imperfections. (Kind of reassuring to know not everything is perfect :) )

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/819_zpsrdf9khqn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/819_zpsrdf9khqn.jpg.html)

Fits nice and flush to the locking mechanism of the cabin

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/820_zpsrnqe20gb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/820_zpsrnqe20gb.jpg.html)

The idea is to feed all the cables through the opening under the electrical board, however some of my Servo wires would be too short (should have made the extension from the hydraulic valves 1 inch longer) to reach the receiver. This also creates a rather big mess in the area where the ESC is supposed to go. So decided to cut a small bit of the board. (Nothing there anyway)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/821_zpsjsmpgh7t.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/821_zpsjsmpgh7t.jpg.html)

Then, why not ... an ever bigger hole so I can get all the wires through except the Kingbus from the rear lights and the power from the pump.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/822_zpsm9mylird.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/822_zpsm9mylird.jpg.html)

Here all servo wires connected. Some are way too long. Need a crimping tool and plugs to shorten them (ebay to the rescue). But will do for now.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/825_zpssljtk3ns.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/825_zpssljtk3ns.jpg.html)

The cabin connector/cable installed and checking placement of the ESC and BEC. Lots of room really. Had to cut of on of the "feet" of the receiver to accommodate the ESC.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/826_zpsyoxkxqix.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/826_zpsyoxkxqix.jpg.html)

The flat cable split up for cutting/connecting

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/827_zpsrieomjl9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/827_zpsrieomjl9.jpg.html)

So that's where we are at the moment ... is 8:30 am here so maybe I can finish today.

Stephan

Rakthi

07-19-2015, 12:21 AM

Part 3

Cut some cables and soldered some others. Folded excess servo wires as best as possible until I can shorten them.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/830_zpspbcwzjcf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/830_zpspbcwzjcf.jpg.html)

This one goes nowhere so gets cut. (I actually asked the guys at ScaleART months ago about it)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/831_zpsbuq0gyiq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/831_zpsbuq0gyiq.jpg.html)

Same for this one, 2 are for sound if speaker is the in exhaust, other two not used. Haven't cut this one yet.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/832_zpsuzxzq8o9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/832_zpsuzxzq8o9.jpg.html)

Installed cover, plugged in battery, couldn't lock cab until I bend the wires from the battery down.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/839_zpshwgfxqdw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/839_zpshwgfxqdw.jpg.html)

Tested and everything works except, the left rear light the cats played with and

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/833_zps5xgmacmp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/833_zps5xgmacmp.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/834_zpstxq8nvp9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/834_zpstxq8nvp9.jpg.html)

one LED at the front is kaput ...

High beam, foglight and other other bits work

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/835_zpsiynmk6yk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/835_zpsiynmk6yk.jpg.html)

except for the regular head light

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/836_zpsuaclhkqz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/836_zpsuaclhkqz.jpg.html)

I must have bumped the corner somehow somewhen. See paint damage. This must have put stress on he LED board what probably caused the damage.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/837_zpsh5h3x2ys.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/837_zpsh5h3x2ys.jpg.html)

Will also have to look into the power to the cabin ... somehow the sound isn't working nor the indicator and stand lights. (mhmm ... must be my brilliant soldering)

For the rest things are good. Haven't yet put in the oil, but I know the pump and servos are working.

So looks like I'm ordering new rear and front LEDs. By the time those arrive, I will have the crimping tool too. So will redo the whole lot at the same time.

Nice thing with the Kingbus system is that I just have to unplug the faulty one and plug in the new one. No wires to cut solder and what not :)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/840_zpszrrgttjc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/840_zpszrrgttjc.jpg.html)

Cheers!

Stephan

Rakthi

07-19-2015, 12:43 AM

:o :o :o Oops ... reason no power in cabin and no sound ... forgot to plug in the connector :rolleyes: Another senior moment.

Cossett

07-19-2015, 02:02 AM

Really loving the daily updates and what we could expect it we brought a ScaleArt kit very informative.

Cheers Tracy

Rakthi

07-19-2015, 05:23 AM

Hi Tracy ... now it will be trouble shooting though.

Even when cab connector plugged in no sound and no lights. :confused:

Green LED sound module is blinking but that's about it. Maybe I plugged something in wrong way round or so. Not the end of the world really.

As for the indicators and stand lights not working, I have to check my wiring at the "Universal Kingbus module" inside te cab.

On the other side, the LEDs at the headlights are all working now. Must be a bad contact inside the board.

Plugged the left rear light in the right rear plug and no joy, guess it is truly toast.

Meanwhile finished the fenders and attached the under run protection (absolute pain that one). Will update that tomorrow.

Cheers!

Stephan

Trucker Al

07-19-2015, 12:17 PM

Great update Stephen. Now that you have giving me my fix for the day, I can continue the rest of my day..

Alan

Rakthi

07-19-2015, 09:44 PM

Hi Al, your fix?!? :) I'm getting worried about my daily fix here ... Almost finished (apart from sorting out the niggle with the SMX and the rear light) and already suffering from withdrawal symptoms ... This kit is strangely addictive. Already been looking at the ScaleART shop and convincing myself that I can afford another one ...:p

Stephan

Rakthi

07-19-2015, 10:23 PM

Here the pictures of the fenders I installed yesterday:

Left front fender first

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/841_zpsgvkm0g2v.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/841_zpsgvkm0g2v.jpg.html)

Per the manual cut a slot for the steering rod that runs on the left

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/842_zpsitshg36a.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/842_zpsitshg36a.jpg.html)

Then shove over the support. The rear wouldn't go in all the way to the stop due to the screws holding the suspension to the chassis

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/844_zpsds1fav3l.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/844_zpsds1fav3l.jpg.html)

A rather big hole is required as the nut needs to fit too. (Looking at the picture, it ooks rather messy from the inside :o) - Same on the right side too of course.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/857_zpsdiuednhp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/857_zpsdiuednhp.jpg.html)

Next rear fenders. They get screwed together as they use same middle support.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/846_zpsyuwbucdf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/846_zpsyuwbucdf.jpg.html)

To make sure they lined up, I put 3 M1.6 screws through the indicated holes that are there for the mud flap. Where to drill is indicated on the parts

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/845_zpstlkiow63.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/845_zpstlkiow63.jpg.html)

Install generic mud flap

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/847_zpshxbavnyz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/847_zpshxbavnyz.jpg.html)

Needed some trimming - Reason: see box in picture above with the holes indicated. Due to the form of the fender one bolt is close to the edge.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/848_zpsrxah26sa.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/848_zpsrxah26sa.jpg.html)

Also needed to file one of the sides of the washer so it would fit in the small area available.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/849_zpspeehzqsj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/849_zpspeehzqsj.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/850_zpscrhrcg0p.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/850_zpscrhrcg0p.jpg.html)

Before installing run a 4mm drill through the holes to remove the small bits of plastic that might still be there from the casting. I also put a bit of silicone grease on the plastic to make it a bit easier to slide them on.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/851_zps1ol7eign.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/851_zps1ol7eign.jpg.html)

Next the under run protection ... this was a real pain. On the side of the oil tank the support touched the tank, considering the length of the screws that were with the part, figured an extra nut near the frame was in order. Up to there no problem. When trying to bolt the actual unit to the frame ... could not get a tool in there. Had to fasten the nuts with tweezers and only at the very end could use a 3mm spanner. The 2 at the bottom were an even bigger challenge. Took forever. - Hence no pictures of this ordeal.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/854_zpsfpewhlsm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/854_zpsfpewhlsm.jpg.html)

Looking at it, I think I will take them back off. Liked it better without them.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/855_zpsdwj9qhzr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/855_zpsdwj9qhzr.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/856_zpsm3m3wjq4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/856_zpsm3m3wjq4.jpg.html)

Stephan

Rakthi

07-20-2015, 01:30 AM

Got the rear light to work - so it survived the cats dragging it around. Checked the plug and even though I marked it when I took the plug off I swapped the + and - ... :confused:

Checked the pictures I took and then the actual wiring (without taking the cab apart) on the sound module and all according to the manual ... stumped on that one.

Still have to check the indicators and stand light on the cab.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/858_zpsmfnescgd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/858_zpsmfnescgd.jpg.html)

Rakthi

07-20-2015, 04:01 AM

Not a happy camper ... started to prime the oil pump and found out one of the valve servos is not responding. Must have broken a soldered joint in the extension down the line. So repairs needed.
The other servo controlling the kipping is working fine, but even after 5 minute running the pun and moving valve back and forth no movement to be seen ... lots of gurgling going on in the oil tank though.

To make things worse, the battery in the truck ran down, tried to charge it, and the on-board plug is not accessible due to the hydraulic cylinders ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/859_zpslgn0ryhp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/859_zpslgn0ryhp.jpg.html)

Meanwhile, got the raised exhaust up. Painted it black and have the pipe disappear under the cabin so it looks like the actual exhaust is under there somewhere

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/860_zpstv3yzrwg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/860_zpstv3yzrwg.jpg.html)

Well that will be it for a while. Until I find a way to make a 2nd plug on the battery so I can charge it, nothing much can be done.

Guess I can start on the container. The last part that needs assembling.

Rakthi

07-20-2015, 06:15 AM

YES! Hydraulics work. Succeeded in getting a charge out of the battery. I put a spare nipple on a piece of hose and screwed it in the pump. Found out that the pump was sucking instead of pumping oil out. So changed the direction of rotation in the transmitter. Had just enough juice to see the mechanism go up. So much for trusting the pre-programmed settings you get with the Commander :)

So tomorrow have to find out why the other servo isn't functioning. Hopefully just a broken connection.

tc1cat

07-20-2015, 09:57 AM

Trucker Al

07-20-2015, 02:01 PM

Congratulations Stephen!! I'm getting as much joy as you are in this build..
This project is turning out great !!

Alan

apfubar

07-21-2015, 02:57 AM

apfubar

07-21-2015, 03:08 AM

Ahhh...

Just looked at your jumpers on the SMX...

Check the manual, on the bottom of page 9... I think you have the smx in setup mode... If you haven't changed the jumpers since you took the photo... In post #108...

Cheers,
Ap

Rakthi

07-21-2015, 06:55 AM

Now I know why I have stayed away from hydraulics :eek::eek: You have a lot more patience than I every thought about having. Even with a degree in electronics, this end of the hobby simply makes me loose my mind. Hope you find all of the problems quickly and easily.

Hi tc1cat, hydraulics are simple! Should have figured it out sooner that the pump is bi-directional, after all they use the same one in the three way kipper where the pump pumps the oil to raise the dumper body and sucks the oil back out to lower it. That's why when you look at the videos the dumper sometimes goes down with little jumps.

Give me hydraulics over electronics any day! ... when they don't work it's either a blockage, a bad valve or bad pump - at least at the simple level employed in these models. You should give it a try. Only thing is that the oil seems to get everywhere ...

Rakthi

07-21-2015, 06:57 AM

Congratulations Stephen!! I'm getting as much joy as you are in this build..
This project is turning out great !!

Alan

Hi Alan ... as I said before, it makes me happy it gives you joy. One of the reasons why I decided to post this as I go along problems and mistakes included. :)

Not much of a fix for you today though ...

Stephan

Rakthi

07-21-2015, 07:32 AM

Well done!

On the charge port, I would suggest checking if you can get a right angle plug of the same size... Typically they are a bit shorter...

On the sound, I am sure you will get it sorted, more than likely it is something simple... Wrong plug or wrong direction etc... There are lots of wires in these things... It's really easy to get a couple wrong first time around! :-)

Let us know if you want us to review how it is connected... Pics and diagrams will make that relatively easy...

Cheers,
Ap

Hi Ap, not too worried about the SMX, as you say, probably have reversed a plug somewhere. In the next couple of days I will check up on the wiring in the cabine and take some pictures of how I plugged what in where. Maybe I'm too close to it to see where I might have gone wrong.

Good idea about the right angle plug for the charger! Meanwhile succeeded in charging battery by using some crocodile clips - bit iffy but went OK. Battery does get very hot though.

Ahhh...

Just looked at your jumpers on the SMX...

Check the manual, on the bottom of page 9... I think you have the smx in setup mode... If you haven't changed the jumpers since you took the photo... In post #108...

Cheers,
Ap

WOW, you went back to check .. thanks for that! ... The jumpers at the moment are per the manual in setting 1

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/Screen%20Shot%202015-07-21%20at%207.26.00%20PM_zpsbbg5kuwx.png (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/Screen%20Shot%202015-07-21%20at%207.26.00%20PM_zpsbbg5kuwx.png.html)

When I tried to turn change the programming on the SMX, nothing much happened ... supposed to get the air brake sound, but nada ...

Thanks again for giving it some thought! Really appreciate that!

Stephan

Rakthi

07-21-2015, 07:54 AM

So this morning the non working servo controlling the valve of the hook arm was up for checking. Easier said than done, had to take all the wiring back apart ... Good thing I did remember to move the mechanism in the up position beforehand because you can't move it now that it is filled with oil. Luckily I could pull the wires without having to take off the bottom plate.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/861_zpshrj5ooxb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/861_zpshrj5ooxb.jpg.html)

Had to pull wires of both servos because they both run through the same piece of shrink tubing.

Didn't see any breaks in my soldering but just to make sure added a new lead I got from the gear servo I busted. Put it on the tester and it worked. I figured one of het three wires must have an internal break. So sigh of relief. And then the struggle getting those wires back to the front. Took some convincing - and a bit of rope - but got it done.

As truck stands now. Hydraulics in working order, all lights on truck working (except cabin) etc etc - Looking at pictures I notice I still have to put up the protection rings on the front wheels.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/863_zpszmjxzlar.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/863_zpszmjxzlar.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/862_zpsksjc24rs.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/862_zpsksjc24rs.jpg.html)

Tomorrow I will check on the wiring to the Universal Kingbus in the cabin and then connect it directly to the 4 way connector and bypassing the flat cable. See if that sorts the problem.

And then ... I will start on the container ... been saving that one for last. A nice and simpel straightforward nuts and bolt job. :)

Trucker Al

07-21-2015, 05:46 PM

Hi Stephen,
I would say this a good update. I love it when problems are solved as I'm sure you do too.
Thanks, Alan

Rakthi

07-22-2015, 06:52 AM

Hi Alan, true always nice if problems get solved easy.

Did connect the Universal Bus in de cabin directly, switched polarity etc and no joy. So going to leave it for a bit. Got the tracking number of the crimping tool and parts for the servo, will look at it when I take it apart again to shorten the servo wires.

An so today I finished the last assembly. No more package sitting around.

This looks like fun!

Part 1

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/864_zpsygbrjgye.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/864_zpsygbrjgye.jpg.html)

As usual a beautifully piece of metalwork. All brass under the paint. Paint is excellent too.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/866_zpsf4j4hqkr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/866_zpsf4j4hqkr.jpg.html)

First the gliders go on. Very precise fit. Model nuts in front and regular philips screws at the bottom about every other hole.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/867_zpse4z6xt2e.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/867_zpse4z6xt2e.jpg.html)

Front

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/869_zpsqgbzljdq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/869_zpsqgbzljdq.jpg.html)

Bottom

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/870_zpsjifrbnrd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/870_zpsjifrbnrd.jpg.html)

Next the cross piece the sliding hooks of the mechanism grab on too when kipping. Had to loosen the screws holding the glider bars. Very tight fit.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/871_zpsy6xawkig.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/871_zpsy6xawkig.jpg.html)

Rollers at the end. Had to file a bit at the holes in the supports to get the pins through. No big deal, but little files are recommended for this build.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/872_zpsnq5fnwbq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/872_zpsnq5fnwbq.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/873_zpsq01nkg5s.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/873_zpsq01nkg5s.jpg.html)

Wood flooring. Kit comes with copper nails you have to insert after drilling the holes out with a 1mm bit, then clip excess and file smooth. Someone at ScaleART had done this already. So my set came prepped like this.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/874_zpsxwxs4x0b.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/874_zpsxwxs4x0b.jpg.html)

Gets fastened with M2 model bolts. The underlying frame work had threaded holes in it. (exept the middle of the 2 small pieces ... somehow the thread were in the wrong holes. Put an M2 nut on to hold it in place.)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/875_zpsgzahzakw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/875_zpsgzahzakw.jpg.html)

4 uprights slide in holder and bolted on with one M2 model bolt

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/876_zps1tkigpzx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/876_zps1tkigpzx.jpg.html)

Had to file some paint off to get a good/easy fit. Also had to run the file at the bottom of the holder so get rid of some excess paint.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/877_zpsqluavvm0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/877_zpsqluavvm0.jpg.html)

Eyebolts and chain links to tie down the load. Need 8 got 10. 2 of them extra long. Used those in the corners at the read. No way I could fasten the nut with those wheels in place there.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/878_zpsqe1wr69o.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/878_zpsqe1wr69o.jpg.html)

Chain links attached to the eye bolts

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/879_zpsg09nc9kg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/879_zpsg09nc9kg.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/880_zpspekuk2bk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/880_zpspekuk2bk.jpg.html)

Rakthi

07-22-2015, 07:09 AM

Part 2

ScaleART left some indents to have access to the nuts going on the eyebolts, but even if I wanted to use M2 model nuts, I couldn't get the tool in there. So was a bit of a challenge, but after 2 you have a system.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/881_zpsvj5skod1.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/881_zpsvj5skod1.jpg.html)

Done

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/882_zpsrwsqhlku.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/882_zpsrwsqhlku.jpg.html)

Now prepping the boards. First the rear one. Simple but effective locking mechanism. Needs some Loctite on the nut.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/883_zpsdrashwjd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/883_zpsdrashwjd.jpg.html)

The pins gets fastened with crazy glue where they go through the holes. Manual stated to run a 1.5 mm bit through the hole before going through this procedure. On my kit this was done already.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/884_zpsdfnmjscm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/884_zpsdfnmjscm.jpg.html)

Same for the longer ones on the side. Have to be careful though, one has the pins sticking out on the right and the other on the left.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/886_zpshwof4vqc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/886_zpshwof4vqc.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/887_zpsydxxmrmt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/887_zpsydxxmrmt.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/888_zpsu9jdkhxt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/888_zpsu9jdkhxt.jpg.html)

Remembered to put the protection rings on the front wheels. Used a bit of thin double side tape to hold them in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/890_zpsylu1nmcp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/890_zpsylu1nmcp.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/891_zpsasvsi4d2.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/891_zpsasvsi4d2.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/892_zpswewpy28y.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/892_zpswewpy28y.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/893_zpst4lzhuhk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/893_zpst4lzhuhk.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/894_zps9som5gm8.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/894_zps9som5gm8.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/895_zpsdcwbkp83.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/895_zpsdcwbkp83.jpg.html)

So that's it ... technically the end of this thread ... Now going to run this truck a bit trying not to hit too many things and then see how to sort out the sound and cabin lights.

So an update will be in the works.

One things for sure, had a great time bolting this together and I can only hope you did too indirectly then. :)

Cheers! Stephan

tc1cat

07-22-2015, 08:50 AM

Truck looks GREAT!! Wasn't sure about the white cab at first- and I have a white truck to build of my own :rolleyes::rolleyes:- but after seeing the blue container on the truck, You have a winner!! Again, hope you find all of the gremlins in the electronics quickly and easily.

GREAT TRUCK!

Rakthi

07-22-2015, 09:19 AM

Thank you tc1cat! And to think I almost got an orange / silver combo ...

lots of trucks here in Malaysia happen to be white and blue. Although they're not Mercs and usually old 4x2s :) Mostly brands I've never heard of before from China or Korea and then some local ones.

Now looking at the truck ... this is not something you are going to toss some muck in ... will have to get another container for the back. A good excuse for another ScaleART fix :)

Trucker Al

07-22-2015, 08:33 PM

Beautiful build Stephen !!
I really hate to see this come to an end, when you gonna built the next one (-:

Alan

Rakthi

07-23-2015, 12:00 AM

Thanks Alan ... So do I - hate it that is has come to an end - I'm a bit lost now since this build has kept me busy for about 3 months. Guess I can finally put the 3rd coat of varnish on the front door now. :)

Very tempted to get another one, but €€€€ ...

Stephan

Newcomer_2

07-23-2015, 01:49 AM

Hi Stephan,

you did a really good job with this build! It was very interesting for my to have a look at the latest version of the roll on-/off-tipper.

By the way, I think you absolutely need two other containers ... the flat one and the high version. ;)

Rakthi

07-23-2015, 03:47 AM

Yes Christian, I see where this is going, first 2 more containers, then the trailer, then a 2nd truck ... :cool::)

Stephan

Newcomer_2

07-23-2015, 04:11 AM

Yes Stephan, I think this would be the best way to go on ... :cool:

Rakthi

07-23-2015, 04:11 AM

Had the truck out in the garden this afternoon. Good thing I went for 8x8. Had to use the diff locks a couple of times to get him to move. I also found out that I had never torqued the 2 nuts holding the wheels onto the first rear axle :p :rolleyes: An interesting moment.

One thing for sure, third gear is way too fast for me.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/896_zpsezc1ymii.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/896_zpsezc1ymii.jpg.html)

Tried unloading the container, but it got stuck in the grass. Need a smoother surface for that exercise. Meanwhile I can pretend to unload like this.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/897_zpsddlenm2y.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/897_zpsddlenm2y.jpg.html)

Without the side panels

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/898_zpsy1x8uzgi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/898_zpsy1x8uzgi.jpg.html)

And last picture, containing all the areas that needed some filing.
The supports for the rollers could be a bit bigger so there would be no need to elongate the holes in it as to get the pin through it.

You can also see how the long eyebolt attaches. (and it looks like I will need a bigger washer there)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/899_zpsikmi2qze.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/899_zpsikmi2qze.jpg.html)

Cheers
Stephan

Brel

07-29-2015, 05:21 AM

great looking truck, a great build to follow from start to finish

Tp_hofmann

07-29-2015, 02:24 PM

Great model - nicely assembled !

Br,
Thomas

chris1210

07-29-2015, 03:59 PM

I've been following since the first started. Can't wait to see the video of it running

Rakthi

07-29-2015, 09:21 PM

Hi Brel, Tom, chriss1210 ... Thank you for the comments.

As for a video of it running ... will be a while due to slow 3G internet and nobody around to hold the phone. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile I finally found a supplier of decent paint. Now seriously thinking of repainting the chassis in RAL 3002 (red). Since I will have to take the truck partly apart when I replace the 2 supports of the kipping mechanism, might as well do a proper job of it then. Will not be for tomorrow although I did put in an order for the paint.

Stephan

Rakthi

09-12-2015, 11:18 PM

Time for an update here.

Christian who has the same container in the works pointed out a problem:
These hooks that hold the container during kipping are supposed to go completely over the cross piece.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/900_zpswnbuf1jv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/900_zpswnbuf1jv.jpg.html)

And the sliding hooks that control the locking mechanism for other containers are blocked too,

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/904_zpsnuu1ufpo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/904_zpsnuu1ufpo.jpg.html)

ScaleArt is aware of this problem and will come out with an update to fix this. However in the meantime I decided to see if I could come up with something that would make it work as it should.

Since the cross bar is too thick to let the hooks slide over it, filing is in order:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/908_zpso9gxbz94.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/908_zpso9gxbz94.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/909_zpsv3h1cieo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/909_zpsv3h1cieo.jpg.html)

Because a decent chunk of material was removed, a little bit of bracing would be good.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/910_zpswjhseof6.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/910_zpswjhseof6.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/911_zpsim5aflil.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/911_zpsim5aflil.jpg.html)

With this all taken care of noticed that now the hook mechanisme slides into the diagonal support of the exhaust - why did I have to order that piece? :rolleyes: - bending it.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/914_zpsvugjdlvs.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/914_zpsvugjdlvs.jpg.html)

Added a small piece of aluminium to alleviate this problem.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/912_zpsqf8jjfmq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/912_zpsqf8jjfmq.jpg.html)

After some filler and sanding tested it.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/915_zps6w3dpyxj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/915_zps6w3dpyxj.jpg.html)

Missing the diagonal support with a hair! Will add some small bits of rubber to give a bit more distance.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/916_zpsmwcp7drw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/916_zpsmwcp7drw.jpg.html)

Painted the cross bit black since it is barely visible.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/918_zpsbhktbaba.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/918_zpsbhktbaba.jpg.html)

Added 2 rubber bumper stops to it to give more distance

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/921_zpsfru0gyap.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/921_zpsfru0gyap.jpg.html)

And re-installed. Everything now working in good order :)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/922_zpsh4ss7sg2.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/922_zpsh4ss7sg2.jpg.html)

Now waiting for the replacement pieces I messed up when I drilled out the broken bolts.

KAF1

09-16-2015, 04:20 AM

If the ever do a Build of the Year, this should be nominated!
Ken

Newcomer_2

09-16-2015, 04:40 AM

That's absolutely right, Ken! - Stephan did a really good job!

Rakthi

09-16-2015, 08:47 PM

OK guys, I'll admit, I'm flattered, but I wouldn't nominate for "build" of the year though ... "assembly thread" would be more appropriate since I didn't really "build" this one.

Rakthi

09-24-2015, 06:00 AM

Quick update. The 2 pieces to attach the hook mechanism to the frame arrived yesterday. So can now replace the ones I messed up when I had to drill out the screws after I broke of the head.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/923_zpsv250cjzo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/923_zpsv250cjzo.jpg.html)

I had also ordered a complete set of street tires a) to see how the truck behaves with those and b) because I am partial to the look of them.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/924_zpseqi4p9fp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/924_zpseqi4p9fp.jpg.html)

While I replace the tires I will also adjust the track rods of the rear axle. The wheel is not nicely centred in the fender like the other one.

First rear axle, ± centred

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/925_zpspj6k0f1r.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/925_zpspj6k0f1r.jpg.html)

Last one too far back and the tire hits the fender sometimes. Think I will have to shorten the track rod about 1.5 to 2mm. While I have the fenders off I can at the same time paint those stainless screw heads black too.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/926_zpsy4ha8nj7.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/926_zpsy4ha8nj7.jpg.html)

Cheers

Stephan

Tp_hofmann

09-26-2015, 03:37 AM

Looking forward to see the street gear mounted :)

And you should get a bonus from scaleart, since your assembly story inspired me to get a "Baustoffmulde" as well ;)

cosworth34677

09-27-2015, 10:21 AM

The detail of this truck is crazy. This is why I love scaleart!

Rakthi

09-28-2015, 05:18 AM

Hi Tom, wish I could show you pictures, but every time I think of starting on the Arocs something comes up.
Hopefully I can get to it later this week.
Congrats on getting the "Baustoffmulde"!
It will be a great addition to your Palfinger equipped truck!
Green with envy over that one, :drool:

====================

Hi Cosworth, yup the detailing is excellent.

Have a look at this cast piece! A part of my next truck :)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/001_zpszlo9z99s.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/001_zpszlo9z99s.jpg.html)

My fingers are itching to start on this one, but first the Arocs and all the stuff I have been putting off.
(or as my wife puts it, first the things you've been putting off, then your toys)

Cossett

09-28-2015, 07:07 AM

Hi stephan , where are the spider from and what type of rim are they designed to go in as they are the cleanest ones Ive seen ?

Cheers Tracy

Rakthi

09-28-2015, 06:46 PM

Hi Tracy, it is from the Trilex series from Scaleart. They have the 6-hole version (which I ordered) and the more modern 10-hole version. Both are metal casts.

https://scaleart-shop.de/en/Drive-Technology/Wheels/

The pictures in their webshop don't really show the detail. I was pleasantly surprised when I unpacked this one.

Couldn't find the 6-hole version for the front axle. Turned out that you have to order the front axle with them so they are under rear axles (no wonder I had a hard time finding them :confused: )

https://scaleart-shop.de/en/Drive-Technology/Axles/Rear-Axles/

Rakthi

09-29-2015, 07:09 AM

Hi all, a couple of days ago I noticed that Christian (Newcomer_2) posted the pictures of the updated cross brace ScaleART released for the container on a German site. Rather than giving you the link to the site it would be nice if he would post them here.

So I took the liberty to ask him if he would be so kind as to do that. Looking forward to him posting when he has the time.

So by the time he has updated us on the fix I will hopefully have sorted out some of the stuff that is temporarily keeping me from messing around with the truck.

:)

Newcomer_2

09-29-2015, 09:26 AM

Hi Stephan,

thank you for inviting me to post some pictures of the updated cross brace for the container in your thread.

Let´s start! - In the following picture you can see an extract of the manual, the new cross brace (= the black parts) an the old version (the red part on right side):

http://up.picr.de/23254692qt.jpg

And here you can have a closer look on the updated parts and the first step of the assembling:

http://up.picr.de/23254688dr.jpg

http://up.picr.de/23254691ob.jpg

The next step is to mount it on the container. Because of the contersunk holes on the longitudinal profile of the carriage, I swapped the round head screws of the manual against countersunk screws and bolted them from the outside inwards. The screw head I simply painted black with a waterproof pen.

http://up.picr.de/23254686us.jpg

http://up.picr.de/23254687sl.jpg

http://up.picr.de/23254698nb.jpg

The new cross brace has passed the function test. It can slide under the hooks of the roll-on/-off-mechanism and is held securely. The small scratches prove a secure hold.

http://up.picr.de/23254699wk.jpg

http://up.picr.de/23254704rl.jpg

It also fits to the trailor:

http://up.picr.de/23254703we.jpg

http://up.picr.de/23254701no.jpg

http://up.picr.de/23254702jo.jpg

I'm glad because of the supporting of ScaleART in such cases. If there is a problem, they're always searching for a solution.

Stephan, now it´s your turn to go on. But first of all do all the the other things around you! Then you can much more enjoy the assembling. ;)

Rakthi

09-29-2015, 08:17 PM

Thank you Christian! If we had to wait till I receive the updated parts and find the time to install it, would have taken forever :)

Interesting to see how it fits/hooks to the trailer too! Always wondered about that.

Rakthi

10-01-2015, 12:35 AM

Today appointments got cancelled and it rained so no painting the front door ... meaning I could do some stuff to the Arocs.

First replace the bits I mucked up drilling out the screws. A bit of a fiddle with all the hydraulic lines installed, but all in all doable. Good thing I re-ordered the screws because seriously messed up the head of the countersunk screw due to the loctite used. Should have heated the screw with a soldering iron to loosen the loctite.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/927_zpssjlw8gzh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/927_zpssjlw8gzh.jpg.html)

Replaced them one side at the time.

Here the worst one with the replacement. Replacement is gloss and looks better finished.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/930_zpsssu4h2gk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/930_zpsssu4h2gk.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/931_zpsejeoycup.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/931_zpsejeoycup.jpg.html)

Had to take the fenders of to do this repair. Painted the screws holding them together black - something I picked up from Christian. Looks much better this way.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/932_zpsll28c3ez.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/932_zpsll28c3ez.jpg.html)

Then had to adjust the tracking rods on the rear axle. In the manual they indicated about 50mm, so shortened them to 48.5 mm. Not so easy to get those track rods off. Good thing I have a flexible screw driver.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/934_zps8drutwpw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/934_zps8drutwpw.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/935_zpsgr3j0zt8.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/935_zpsgr3j0zt8.jpg.html)

Then replace the off-road tires to street tires.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/936_zpsgyo29btp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/936_zpsgyo29btp.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/937_zpsnjgyh3sx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/937_zpsnjgyh3sx.jpg.html)

Could have shortened the tracking rod a bit more, but still better than before.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/938_zpsib56yye4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/938_zpsib56yye4.jpg.html)

And everything back in place and working.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/939_zpsnbwchdla.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/939_zpsnbwchdla.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/940_zpslevqubcl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/940_zpslevqubcl.jpg.html)

That's it. :)