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Rakthi
10-16-2015, 11:02 PM
Gave in to the ScaleART addiction and ordered a MAN TGX/XL 6x6 with a 3-axle half pipe trailer to go with it. This one will be white on a red frame. Same for the trailer.

The MAN will have ScaleART's 6-hole trilex wheels and their version of the air suspension. Both chosen to satisfy my curiosity on those bits. There also will be some other bits and pieces that are not part of the standard package.

Here goes. As usual the boxes were very well packed in peanuts

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/0003_zpswrkxvktl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/0003_zpswrkxvktl.jpg.html)

After cleaning out the packing material the parts for the TGX

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/0001_zps0713m2mp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/0001_zps0713m2mp.jpg.html)

And cab

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/0002_zps08koycmh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/0002_zps08koycmh.jpg.html)

Started on the frame today.

The parts in the top right corner are actually for the heavy duty truck, but I kind of liked having it on this one too.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/003_zps1wdyepdy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/003_zps1wdyepdy.jpg.html)

Started on the cross brace for the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/005_zpseselbcd4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/005_zpseselbcd4.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/004_zps52hu17mz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/004_zps52hu17mz.jpg.html)

A fiddly exercise in patience to get the nuts on the bolts.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/006_zpsazydrqx3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/006_zpsazydrqx3.jpg.html)

One of these knipex cutters is rather useful to trim the bolts.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/007_zps0rldoydr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/007_zps0rldoydr.jpg.html)

And done ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/008_zpszjhws6bz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/008_zpszjhws6bz.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/009_zps1a34743j.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/009_zps1a34743j.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/010_zpstub0w6d6.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/010_zpstub0w6d6.jpg.html)

That's how far I got ... remembered just in time that I am using diamond plate fenders on this one, so have to figure out the position of the rear light support before I can assemble the rest of the frame.

Tp_hofmann
10-17-2015, 01:12 AM
Subscribing to this thread and really looking forward to the progress.

Fine project and a good addition to your arocs ;)

Br,
Tom

crisis time
10-17-2015, 04:46 AM
Subscribed as well Rakthi
Another great build on the way

chris1210
10-17-2015, 09:38 PM
Hi Stephan, congratulations on getting your new ScaleArt truck. I'm also looking forward to the progress. My kit is still in Germany :-)

Rakthi
10-18-2015, 01:39 AM
Hi Tom, crisis time, well starting to look that progress is not going to be too smooth. Which makes for a more interesting build of course :)

Hi Chris, guess you are eagerly awaiting the arrival of your kit!

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Before bolting the frame together I checked the position of the fenders.

Mhmm rear support supposed to go in the 7th hole from the back, but frame rail only has 5 holes ... Guess I might have to drill one myself. Will deal with it when we get to it.

Since the positioning of the fender determines the position of the rear light holders I might as well go ahead. Can always unbolt stuff.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/011_zpsjtfv4lpg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/011_zpsjtfv4lpg.jpg.html)

So we continue with the frame. The cross brace is held on with 4 bolts and te top 2 also hold the rails where the 5th wheel will attach too. There are a further 3 bolts in that rail. The position of the parts is easily determined too.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/012_zps8b99ql3s.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/012_zps8b99ql3s.jpg.html)

Easiest to first attach the 3 bolts of the rail

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/013_zpskjy7phfz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/013_zpskjy7phfz.jpg.html)

Then the cross brace

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/014_zpss5tdfqy3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/014_zpss5tdfqy3.jpg.html)

After doing the other side

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/015_zpsqtvs5uy1.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/015_zpsqtvs5uy1.jpg.html)

Next up is the simple assembly of the "heavy hauler" end piece

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/016_zpsh33vi8ye.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/016_zpsh33vi8ye.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/017_zps2cmkcc4u.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/017_zps2cmkcc4u.jpg.html)

Followed by the fiddly fitting of small bolts in hard to reach places to combine these 3 parts.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/018_zpsajcvu9ee.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/018_zpsajcvu9ee.jpg.html)

The holes in the stainless steel parts do line up perfectly, but they are very tight fit for the bolts. So ran a 1/16" bit through them. Made a world of difference. Still fiddly but at least didn't have to "force" them through.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/019_zpsxw1uqd28.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/019_zpsxw1uqd28.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/021_zps4azzsi3p.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/021_zps4azzsi3p.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/020_zpslc6cb3yj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/020_zpslc6cb3yj.jpg.html)

And that red circle above ... bummer ... the "heavy hauler" end piece is not compatible with the air suspension (see below) ... so either I take it back off or I slice a bit off to give room to the airbag. I'd prefer to cut it down a bit, but don't have the equipment for it ... head scratching time.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/022_zpsk8hpkgjd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/022_zpsk8hpkgjd.jpg.html)

The circle on the drawing is where I will have to drill 2 2mm holes on both sides of the frame. No holes foreseen in the cross brace.

And I though the tractor part of this build was going to be easy - what I get for trying to be different. ;)

Rakthi
10-18-2015, 08:18 PM
To see how much I would have to grind off the heavy hauler end piece I did a quick and dirty photoshop to visualise if it would be do-able.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/024_zps0efzbtwn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/024_zps0efzbtwn.jpg.html)

Looks like close to half has to go. Wouldn't look to good. So I'll take if off and use it as an excuse for a future project - an Actros SLT comes to mind ;)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/023_zpswgdqtqiw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/023_zpswgdqtqiw.jpg.html)

Rakthi
10-18-2015, 09:32 PM
Took the better part an hour to remove the part and re-assemble.

As per manual I left the middle one open. Am 99.99% sure that is where the fender support will go. Haven't shortened the bolts yet until I know where the rear light support will go.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/025_zpsby9zwknq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/025_zpsby9zwknq.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/026_zpsoaklwkms.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/026_zpsoaklwkms.jpg.html)

Rakthi
10-20-2015, 01:05 AM
Drilled the 2 mm holes in the cross brace for the suspension.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/027_zpssfhwiniu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/027_zpssfhwiniu.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/028_zpswvk1zldr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/028_zpswvk1zldr.jpg.html)

Did a trial install to determine how the rear fender and rear lights are going to fit.

The center support is another one of those nicely detailed bits that will sadly be mostly hidden after install.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/029_zpsprae70nd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/029_zpsprae70nd.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/030_zpscn1ldyvp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/030_zpscn1ldyvp.jpg.html)

It goes here, in the center of the 2 rear axles right above the axle support

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/031_zpsuo9bcunu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/031_zpsuo9bcunu.jpg.html)

2 M2 nuts are used as spacer.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/032_zpsfqlrxzey.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/032_zpsfqlrxzey.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/033_zpskog7gebp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/033_zpskog7gebp.jpg.html)

Fender will attach to the center support with 4 bolts (circled the little holes because they are hard to see)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/034_zpseaobdhaq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/034_zpseaobdhaq.jpg.html)

The other supports and attachment parts

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/035_zpsqheuwtxe.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/035_zpsqheuwtxe.jpg.html)

Temporarily installed

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/036_zpsnlmr4q8p.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/036_zpsnlmr4q8p.jpg.html)

Next is the rear lights.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/037_zps95rt7l9o.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/037_zps95rt7l9o.jpg.html)

This is the way the support is to go. But not enough room. The clamps holding the fender to the support are in the way.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/038_zpsqtxasvsm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/038_zpsqtxasvsm.jpg.html)

Could swap left and right side, that seems to work, but then the rear lights stick out behind the frame and will be easily damaged.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/039_zps6rzqv9q3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/039_zps6rzqv9q3.jpg.html)

Other solution would be to attach lights directly to the fender. Ideally they should go higher and above the fold.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/040_zpsxzmdtbul.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/040_zpsxzmdtbul.jpg.html)

That is probably the best solution. Just have to figure out how to do it.

Rakthi
10-25-2015, 02:29 AM
Finally found some time to do some more.

Figured I start with the air suspension.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/041_zpscixopssm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/041_zpscixopssm.jpg.html)

The "don't know how you call this" bits that will bolt on to the axle and then to the 2 air springs.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/042_zps3gle7j4d.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/042_zps3gle7j4d.jpg.html)

Took one of the air springs apart to see what it consists off.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/043_zpsikwbejdf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/043_zpsikwbejdf.jpg.html)

Before I bolted them onto the chassis, I shortened the little bolts. I didn't touch the ones in the back yet.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/044_zpsqpgul8ff.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/044_zpsqpgul8ff.jpg.html)

First thing to go on is the axle support which is included in the package. Supposed to be bolted on with M2x4 philips screws. I found those a bit on the short side. I prefer the bolt to stick out a bit from the nut, so I replaced the philips screws with M2x5 ones I had left over from the AROCS build.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/045_zpskslddmps.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/045_zpskslddmps.jpg.html)

This container contains all the nuts, bolts, screws etc left over from the AROCS. ScaleART is generous in supplying fasteners.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/053_zpsx1cua2zk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/053_zpsx1cua2zk.jpg.html)

First one installed where I had to drill out the cross brace. Hardest one to get the screws in. (M2x5)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/046_zps0s6kxjck.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/046_zps0s6kxjck.jpg.html)

The cross brace needs to be pushed as high up as possible to fit the heads of the M2 Philips screws

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/047_zpsjgdzv55e.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/047_zpsjgdzv55e.jpg.html)

The air spring only fits one way to the frame rail.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/048_zpswesmletb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/048_zpswesmletb.jpg.html)

One side done

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/049_zpsqs4kdsel.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/049_zpsqs4kdsel.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/050_zpsj8b8i1wt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/050_zpsj8b8i1wt.jpg.html)

Both sides.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/051_zpsn7c9rryu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/051_zpsn7c9rryu.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/052_zpsxeg3iuog.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/052_zpsxeg3iuog.jpg.html)

More to come

bigford
10-25-2015, 08:34 AM
first the tipper now this. wow you love the abuse!!!
great fun to watch for sure

Rakthi
10-26-2015, 10:15 PM
Hi bigford, wouldn't call it abuse really. Since I sold the bike and the Defender, putting this together kind of keeps me sane.

With all the non-standard parts on this one I can look forward to plenty of "abuse" :rolleyes: ;)

Rakthi
10-26-2015, 10:54 PM
Did a trial fit of the rear axle. Noticed they made an update.

They removed the ugly philips screw that held the clamp for the bowden cable

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/054_zpsiulh8vlv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/054_zpsiulh8vlv.jpg.html)

Here a pic of the older version:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/055_zpstcodjapp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/055_zpstcodjapp.jpg.html)

The other side with the updated way to hold the bowden cable

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/056_zpsjqr7bv4j.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/056_zpsjqr7bv4j.jpg.html)

The previous version:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/274_zpskptnjyws.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/274_zpskptnjyws.jpg.html)

The axle gets attached to the axle supports

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/057_zpsd9chyvys.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/057_zpsd9chyvys.jpg.html)

Those installed, remove the nuts from the bottom of the air suspension

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/058_zpsmdxgeepa.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/058_zpsmdxgeepa.jpg.html)

And bolt in place with the previously removed nuts

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/059_zpsvts0egov.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/059_zpsvts0egov.jpg.html)

And here we will need to do a small adaptation to be able to lock the differential. As you can see the attachment point hits the air suspension. This is pointed out in the documentation.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/060_zpsrs0uhcag.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/060_zpsrs0uhcag.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/061_zpsagwqxzil.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/061_zpsagwqxzil.jpg.html)

Will be for another time.

Rakthi
10-30-2015, 01:12 AM
Did the front axle suspension.

Also an upgraded item. It now comes painted black (is still brass) and the spacers between the leaf springs have become longer, making the whole a more sturdy. The guides for the bowden cable (not used here) are now also part of the plate and no longer separate.

Updated set:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/063_zps0ot2fird.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/063_zps0ot2fird.jpg.html)

Previous set:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/082_zps7liqxfwd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/082_zps7liqxfwd.jpg.html)

Assembling the suspension. The parts are twisted out of the plate. Before assembling I smoothened the parts where they were attached to the plate.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/064_zpsrh5ocpg0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/064_zpsrh5ocpg0.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/065_zpsbysibibr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/065_zpsbysibibr.jpg.html)

Attaching the rear support

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/066_zpsxa11ecve.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/066_zpsxa11ecve.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/067_zpsk6lqradm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/067_zpsk6lqradm.jpg.html)

Used the wrong nuts here. Replaced them with the right ones later.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/068_zps9wcavydz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/068_zps9wcavydz.jpg.html)

First attach front support to frame followed by the rest of this assembly.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/069_zpsay2r19oz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/069_zpsay2r19oz.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/070_zpsgdwm4d96.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/070_zpsgdwm4d96.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/071_zpsbx65av1d.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/071_zpsbx65av1d.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/073_zpsdywewbir.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/073_zpsdywewbir.jpg.html)

Left over parts

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/074_zpsvxqwcqel.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/074_zpsvxqwcqel.jpg.html)

Rakthi
11-01-2015, 10:30 PM
Found the time to trim the bowden cable attachment points on the rear axles.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/077_zpsyrulzaa7.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/077_zpsyrulzaa7.jpg.html)

I drilled a 1.5mm hole too. I figure it will give me more options to attach the bowden cable later on.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/078_zpsc8fiyevz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/078_zpsc8fiyevz.jpg.html)

Both axles installed and no longer touching the air suspension where I trimmed the attachment point.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/079_zpsefedic2y.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/079_zpsefedic2y.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/080_zpsrhm0mzq1.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/080_zpsrhm0mzq1.jpg.html)

Because I have a driven axle for the front suspension, I had to remove the screws I installed to mount the spacer.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/081_zpsqgdr8kl6.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/081_zpsqgdr8kl6.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/082_zpsbapzh9bp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/082_zpsbapzh9bp.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/083_zpsrkdi7jgt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/083_zpsrkdi7jgt.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/084_zps0obc2vtc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/084_zps0obc2vtc.jpg.html)

I have not used Loctite yet. Due to the air suspension, the whole thing will have to come apart again later for painting.

Newcomer_2
11-02-2015, 09:24 AM
Hi Stephan,

congratulation to you for your new kit! - As I can see you've already startet. And there are already some of your adjustments - that´s fine! - I´ll follow your build.

It´s nice to see that ScaleART always improves their products! ;)

Rakthi
11-02-2015, 09:18 PM
Hi Christain... yes started it, but taking it slowly and not really following the manual this time and am trying to figure out myself where and how things will fit. More fun that way.

Is indeed interesting to notice the upgrades/changes they made over the past year. The front suspension sure is stiffer than the one on the Arocs, might consider upgrading that one later on.

Newcomer_2
11-03-2015, 01:56 AM
Hi Christain... yes started it, but taking it slowly and not really following the manual this time and am trying to figure out myself where and how things will fit. More fun that way.

Hi Stephan,

that sounds very interesting! Yes, I believe, you'll have much more fun this way. - So, I'll stay tuned.

Rakthi
11-04-2015, 02:31 AM
Finishing the rear suspension. Not too detailed because it is very similar to the Arocs.

First the "A" frames that hold the axles in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/085_zpss6diwamg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/085_zpss6diwamg.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/086_zpsxq9chlg5.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/086_zpsxq9chlg5.jpg.html)

When looking at the picture to decide which ones to post here, I discovered I made an error :rolleyes: The "A" frames should be attached through the holes marked with an arrow. Now I have them were the center support for the rear fenders is supposed to go - DUH

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/087_zpsenlhgrqi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/087_zpsenlhgrqi.jpg.html)

Here is a difference with the regular suspension. The "A" frame is easier to attach to the axle. They only use a tube instead of the more complicated attachment of the leaf suspension. This probably because the air suspension is way stiffer and has less movement.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/088_zpsujs9px6z.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/088_zpsujs9px6z.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/268_zpswudwvf2i.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/268_zpswudwvf2i.jpg.html)

Next up is the track rods.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/089_zpsjmaiy6xs.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/089_zpsjmaiy6xs.jpg.html)

A bit of contradiction in the attached assembly sheet:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/090_zpspp7zne6g.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/090_zpspp7zne6g.jpg.html)

So first tried the 53 mm ... as you can see way to long. Would really torque the axles on the rubber parts

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/092_zpsw1qeolz8.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/092_zpsw1qeolz8.jpg.html)

Also tried the recommended 49mm but at that length it still pushes the axles too hard. Ended up with 47mm

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/095_zpsmakirpu8.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/095_zpsmakirpu8.jpg.html)

A perfect fit for all 4 positions.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/094_zpsufu9wect.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/094_zpsufu9wect.jpg.html)

The powder coating on the balljoints was too thick and made inserting them in the covering tube practically impossible. Reaming out the tube was a no go. The 3.5mm bit too small and the 4mm too big. So clamped a long M2 bolt in the drill and it as a lathe together with some files and sand paper to get rid of the powder coating.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/096_zpsfa0dnzom.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/096_zpsfa0dnzom.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/097_zpss6oqhl9k.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/097_zpss6oqhl9k.jpg.html)

After that no problems and soon everything bolted together.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/098_zpsvcaifej3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/098_zpsvcaifej3.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/099_zpswwzwhibk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/099_zpswwzwhibk.jpg.html)

Now just have to reposition the two "A" frames in the right position.

Rakthi
11-05-2015, 12:52 AM
Fixed the attachment of the "A" frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/100_zpsskjmx2bx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/100_zpsskjmx2bx.jpg.html)

Installed the rod tying both front wheels together.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/101_zps1ghrrxmg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/101_zps1ghrrxmg.jpg.html)

The rod is supposed to go on top (on bottom here because upside down), but the new way of fixing the bowden cable gets in the way and limits the steering angle

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/102_zps7hv8xslr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/102_zps7hv8xslr.jpg.html)

Decided to bolt it on the underside so the rod does not touch the clamp of the bowden cable.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/103_zps9pdzawku.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/103_zps9pdzawku.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/104_zpsgbv8v9n2.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/104_zpsgbv8v9n2.jpg.html)

Rakthi
11-12-2015, 04:38 AM
Haven't had much time lately, so not much progress.

Did the Trilex rims for one of the rear axles today.

Here all the parts in order of assembly. All the parts are made of machined aluminium, the red bit is a cast piece.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/H4dPn_zpsqeezbuab.jpeg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/H4dPn_zpsqeezbuab.jpeg.html)

The inside hub, front and back

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/106_zpsfr7sprmp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/106_zpsfr7sprmp.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/107_zps5lrux2ek.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/107_zps5lrux2ek.jpg.html)

One of the tow rims. There is a ridge on one side on both of them.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/108_zpskfodynbj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/108_zpskfodynbj.jpg.html)

The part that goes between the two rims. The "teeth" fit into the cast piece.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/109_zpsj1flthxz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/109_zpsj1flthxz.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/110_zpsj7txnfiy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/110_zpsj7txnfiy.jpg.html)

Cast piece, front and back

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/111_zps3wssjs0f.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/111_zps3wssjs0f.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/112_zps4gsnnv0d.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/112_zps4gsnnv0d.jpg.html)

Assembling the parts. The cast bit goes into one of the rims until it is firmly pressed against the before mentioned ridge.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/113_zpsbthuqsqr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/113_zpsbthuqsqr.jpg.html)

The distance piece goes on next with the "teeth" fitting into the cast piece.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/114_zpsfagj5ukd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/114_zpsfagj5ukd.jpg.html)

Next the second rim is placed ridge down on top of this and the inside hub is dropped in. The inside hub fits just so with the thicker parts of the distance ring where the "teeth" are. This way the holes for the bolts line up. The inside hub has threaded holes.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/115_zps9xfqotrs.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/115_zps9xfqotrs.jpg.html)

Bolts in place and test fit on axle - Note: the bolts provided are M2x4.5. I will replace them at a later time with M2x8 or M2x10 model bolts. The M2x4.5 only have 2-3 threads in the inner hub. Doesn't take much force to strip the threads either. (Found out the hard way)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/116_zpswmtij5h9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/116_zpswmtij5h9.jpg.html)

Tyres in place - sorry about the cat hairs on the pictures, had "help"

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/117_zpsolbepxvd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/117_zpsolbepxvd.jpg.html)

And mounted on axle with the hubcap in place (hubcap has a small rubber ring to hold it in). Still need to paint the hubcap red and insert the little M1 bolts. Also thinking of painting the rims red too ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/118_zpsttnq6rvf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/118_zpsttnq6rvf.jpg.html)

Rakthi
11-12-2015, 09:22 PM
Made some more pictures of how the Trilex wheels go together so you can see where the distance ring will fit between the front and rear hub.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/120_zpses3yifgl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/120_zpses3yifgl.jpg.html)

Front and rear hub together with distance ring but without the rims on the axle. You can just make out the M2x10 I plan to fit with a M2 nut at the front when I finalise the assembly.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/121_zps3j1ccyvo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/121_zps3j1ccyvo.jpg.html)

Assembled without the tyres

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/122_zpslesuvkhw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/122_zpslesuvkhw.jpg.html)

Started on the front axle, but due to a mislabeling I got send the front axle for a regular Euro rim ... so will have to wait a couple of weeks for the right one to be shipped to me.

chris1210
11-12-2015, 09:57 PM
Hi Stephan,

wow...it's unbelievable that so much details went into those Trilex wheels. Are you planning to paint the frame fails in red? I really enjoy watching you build your new truck :)

Rakthi
11-12-2015, 10:13 PM
Hi Chris, yes, the amount of detail on these Trilex wheels is unbelievable, as is the fit and finish. And yes, eventually the frame etc. will be painted red. The rear fenders will go in black but I might replace them with half fenders. Also thinking of replacing the rear suspension with the regular leaf suspension. Love the look of the air suspension but not appropriate for what I plan to do with this truck once it is finished. Still a lot of things hanging in the air on this build.

Rakthi
11-13-2015, 10:58 PM
While waiting for ScaleART to send me the right front axle, been playing with the alternative half fenders I have.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/128_zpshnpk2jgk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/128_zpshnpk2jgk.jpg.html)

Just assembled it all loosely without cleaning up the sharp edges.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/129_zpskhsza8jo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/129_zpskhsza8jo.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/130_zps6v7p9tph.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/130_zps6v7p9tph.jpg.html)

Figured it might look better with off-road tyres, installed the ones I have from the Arocs.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/131_zpshsjesnpt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/131_zpshsjesnpt.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/132_zpsyoxzime3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/132_zpsyoxzime3.jpg.html)

Tp_hofmann
11-14-2015, 01:38 AM
Woooooooooooooow ... I am delighted to see your updates - please keep us updated!

chris1210
11-14-2015, 05:13 AM
Hi Chris, yes, the amount of detail on these Trilex wheels is unbelievable, as is the fit and finish. And yes, eventually the frame etc. will be painted red. The rear fenders will go in black but I might replace them with half fenders. Also thinking of replacing the rear suspension with the regular leaf suspension. Love the look of the air suspension but not appropriate for what I plan to do with this truck once it is finished. Still a lot of things hanging in the air on this build.
I agreed, the air suspension looks very nice on your truck. Is the suspension stiff or soft? What's wrong with it? I know you will haul a trailer so you need a stiffer suspension.

Woooooooooooooow ... I am delighted to see your updates - please keep us updated!
Hi Tom, I've been following your build on German site too. Did you run your Arocs Palfinger yet?

Rakthi
11-14-2015, 09:33 AM
Hi Tom, working on it. But not much time lately :)

Hi Chris, I will post some pictures tomorrow of the limited movement of the air suspension vs the leaf version.

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This afternoon got some time and started on the fifth wheel.

Here the parts

ScaleART delivers with 3 different ground plates, one flat one, one raised one for manual operation and one raised one for use with a servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/133_zpszveycpu3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/133_zpszveycpu3.jpg.html)

Also various nuts and bolts. The bits on the right with the long screws are for attaching the servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/134_zps3cr4ob53.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/134_zps3cr4ob53.jpg.html)

The actual parts of the fifth wheel

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/135_zpssy2kqzve.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/135_zpssy2kqzve.jpg.html)

We begin with putting some stickers on the supports

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/137_zpszzapx6ek.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/137_zpszzapx6ek.jpg.html)

Bolt the supports to the ground plate

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/138_zpskui7yukq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/138_zpskui7yukq.jpg.html)

Now place the moving / locking parts on the bottom side of the fifth wheel. The arrows point to the recesses where the supports will go. The circles are where the servo will attach later on.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/140_zpsmf8dyhaf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/140_zpsmf8dyhaf.jpg.html)

Then the two parts are combined and held together with a cover plate. I made a picture beforehand to show this without the bottom plate blocking the view.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/136_zpsxsneiono.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/136_zpsxsneiono.jpg.html)

Here the finished assembly

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/141_zpspqtx1zry.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/141_zpspqtx1zry.jpg.html)

The two stainless steel glide plates are supposed to be glued in place, but I just laid them in for now.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/142_zpswluo7mxf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/142_zpswluo7mxf.jpg.html)

Next up is the prepping of the servo. The cable needs to be moved from the side to the bottom. Once that is done, the support plate is put in place (arrow), the long screws inserted and the distance piece and 2 nuts put in place. (the aluminium support plate needed the holes for the screws enlarged a tad - I ran a 2.5mm bit through them). The support plate is not mentioned in the instructions that came with the parts. I put the support in front, but in hind sight I think it would be better in back to bring the servo out a mm or so and give a bit more clearance to the servo horn.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/141_zpsdiecmyv9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/141_zpsdiecmyv9.jpg.html)

Servo horn needs be cut to 11 mm

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/145_zpsf4xu2xvm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/145_zpsf4xu2xvm.jpg.html)

Servo mounted in the fifth wheel

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/147_zpsqjh45gg8.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/147_zpsqjh45gg8.jpg.html)

Fifth wheel bolted on truck

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/148_zps71vq1lzx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/148_zps71vq1lzx.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/149_zpsnbcajygm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/149_zpsnbcajygm.jpg.html)

Will take some pics tomorrow of the mechanism open and closed. Forgot those. Might add some silicone grease too and change the position of the servo support.

Rakthi
11-14-2015, 07:34 PM
Here two pictures showing the difference in air vs leaf suspension. Due to the way the air suspension is constructed there is less free movement of the axles compared to the leaf suspension. On the leaf suspension the axles are only held with the "A" frame and the track bars. If I keep the air suspension I will have to use the differential lock more often. Must point out that small bumps/ridges are no problem for the air suspension. Will have to do this again when the truck is finished and with loaded trailer.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/299_zpshk1wjrv4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/299_zpshk1wjrv4.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/142_zpsxd3gzzrf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/142_zpsxd3gzzrf.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/099_zpswwzwhibk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/099_zpswwzwhibk.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/150_zpsum1aygnh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/150_zpsum1aygnh.jpg.html)

Rakthi
11-14-2015, 10:18 PM
Took fifth wheel apart to redo the servo and to add some silicon grease to the parts. Took some pictures I missed when assembling first time.

Here the top before the stainless steel glide plates are in place. These are the screws that tie it to the ground plate.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/151_zpselhroibk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/151_zpselhroibk.jpg.html)

Mechanism in "lock" position

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/152_zpsz7ocikwx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/152_zpsz7ocikwx.jpg.html)

Mechanism in open position. When backing into the trailer, the kingpin will close the lock.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/153_zpsr6ekbwfl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/153_zpsr6ekbwfl.jpg.html)

Next repositioning the servo support

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/154_zpsjzn3a8gk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/154_zpsjzn3a8gk.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/155_zpsqcvtgiwk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/155_zpsqcvtgiwk.jpg.html)

By moving it to the back the servo horn clears the plate.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/156_zpsnfjv0ums.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/156_zpsnfjv0ums.jpg.html)

The support holds the servo level.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/157_zpsctqiqxyc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/157_zpsctqiqxyc.jpg.html)

Cooper
11-14-2015, 10:26 PM
Really nice to see a lot of pics!! I've been busy trying to engineer parts for my own builds but following your posts is making me want one of these just for the fun of building!! Some minor pitfalls, as with everything, but you are taking your time and doing the model right. Piece of art for sure, and then it's use after building is a plus!!

Rakthi
11-15-2015, 01:06 AM
Hi Cooper, glad you like the pictures. Hope you have as much enjoyment out of them as I get from following your "Great Dane excavating co." :) Love the way how you go about fixing and building your models!

As for these ScaleART kits, they sure are a delight to play with during assembly as well as when finished.

Rakthi
11-20-2015, 04:28 AM
Did the holder/locking parts for the cab today

The front ones. There is a left and a right one. The left one has the bump with the hole in it in case you run an 8x8 truck. It is to hold part of the steering linkage. Not needed in this case. All sturdy stainless steel parts. The top part stays moveable so needs Loctite.


http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/159_zpsvptjtkxx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/159_zpsvptjtkxx.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/160_zpsugzgftb0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/160_zpsugzgftb0.jpg.html)

Put the screws in the holes where it gets bolted to the frame

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/161_zpsmibe5hbg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/161_zpsmibe5hbg.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/162_zpsxjv3tw7v.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/162_zpsxjv3tw7v.jpg.html)

That is the front taken care of, now the rear parts. Here are some small assemblies that need be done first.

The locking hooks. (here too Loctite needed)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/163_zpseh2hlqoe.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/163_zpseh2hlqoe.jpg.html)

The air filter needs the cover glued on with crazy glue.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/164_zpsogclzjrp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/164_zpsogclzjrp.jpg.html)

The actual support to which it all gets fastened

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/166_zpseunvy4ir.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/166_zpseunvy4ir.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/167_zpsx6unvwu4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/167_zpsx6unvwu4.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/168_zpswjvdo97l.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/168_zpswjvdo97l.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/169_zpsxdteqwdq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/169_zpsxdteqwdq.jpg.html)

Once all is assembled, it goes onto the frame with 2 M2x5 bolts. The instructions state to make sure it is at a perfect 90° angle. The slots in the side are oval so the whole assembly can slide a couple of mm forwards/backwards.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/170_zps0zjywzfv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/170_zps0zjywzfv.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/171_zpsld9wscpl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/171_zpsld9wscpl.jpg.html)

Newcomer_2
11-20-2015, 05:02 AM
Hi Stephan,

as far as I know, you only need this support on the backsite, if you'll not use the installation kit for the electronic parts. When you're using the electronic-installation kit, the air filter and the locking mechanism will be mounted on the installation kit. I think you should check this.

Rakthi
11-20-2015, 09:40 AM
Hi Christian, thanks for that! Will check it out. Have to dig out the electronic package anyway to get the pieces that are needed to attach the electronics module to the frame.

Rakthi
11-21-2015, 11:01 PM
Before I forget, the support for the rear locking mechanism of the TGX is not replaced by a part in the electronic package. It becomes part of it. Anyway, good of Christian to point that out, if it needed to be replaced would have been a pain later on.

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The first cabin parts go on the frame, they are the rear part of the fender for the front axle.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/172_zpsn0ib6ldk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/172_zpsn0ib6ldk.jpg.html)

The slot in the rear side is to attach the side covers if one has those.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/173_zpsmdwzkskn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/173_zpsmdwzkskn.jpg.html)

Attaches to the frame with 2 screws

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/174_zpsnmb1vhoa.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/174_zpsnmb1vhoa.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/175_zps48t8xi0f.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/175_zps48t8xi0f.jpg.html)

Next up is the exhaust. I went for the V8 one for this truck. I had hoped I could get one of the servos for the diff locks in there instead of in the fuel tank, but that is not going to work out. Not enough room and the plastic parts won't be able to take the strain.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/176_zpsf5ckljve.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/176_zpsf5ckljve.jpg.html)

First step is to glue the exhaust ends into the plastic part. Didn't need to glue them, they fitted very tight to the point that it is very difficult to get them out.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/177_zpsvkv3gome.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/177_zpsvkv3gome.jpg.html)

Next, one of the pins on the back of the V8 cover needs to be filed down.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/178_zpsimlazk06.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/178_zpsimlazk06.jpg.html)

The plastic sides are slotted into place. The exhaust is designed to take the loudspeaker if one so decides. When you don't put the speaker in there, you have to insert the supplied aluminium plate.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/179_zps62ic0dsb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/179_zps62ic0dsb.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/180_zpsyxfo4qfh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/180_zpsyxfo4qfh.jpg.html)

Then the back cover goes on with 4 self tapping screws deep down in those holes.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/182_zpsj8nu9m64.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/182_zpsj8nu9m64.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/181_zpssk9ankkc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/181_zpssk9ankkc.jpg.html)

The support bolted to the frame

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/183_zpshtog3fyb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/183_zpshtog3fyb.jpg.html)

Exhaust bolted to support with 4 self tapping screws (I did use smaller ones than those supplied because that way is easier to remove the bit when I paint the frame)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/184_zpswxm4lmgh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/184_zpswxm4lmgh.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/185_zps4ualimok.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/185_zps4ualimok.jpg.html)

Next I will put on the rear fenders so I see how much room I actually have on the sides.

Cossett
11-21-2015, 11:35 PM
I was just wondering what your phillips head screwdriver looks like to put the screws in from the inside of the frame ?

Cheers Tracy

Rakthi
11-21-2015, 11:55 PM
Just a regular one. I have found in the AROCS and again in this kit that there is always enough leeway to get to the screw heads, be it at an angle.

I usually put the nut on by hand and get it as tight as possible. In most cases there is enough friction between the head of the philips screw and the metal part that you can just tighten the nut without having to use the screw driver, or it only takes half a turn with the screwdriver.

Rakthi
11-22-2015, 12:51 AM
Took some pictures to show the access to those philips screws

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/HmtGQ_zpszs2siygp.jpeg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/HmtGQ_zpszs2siygp.jpeg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/QNwGI_zpsjfsj3c0t.jpeg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/QNwGI_zpsjfsj3c0t.jpeg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/f3yp6_zpsaagduhdn.jpeg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/f3yp6_zpsaagduhdn.jpeg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/SFFES_zpsedmaggqj.jpeg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/SFFES_zpsedmaggqj.jpeg.html)

Rakthi
11-23-2015, 04:06 AM
Decided to install the diamond plate fenders. Had to remove the fifth wheel assembly to get access to the philips screws.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/191_zps78s2debp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/191_zps78s2debp.jpg.html)

Installed them as far out as possible.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/192_zps5a4ir3xk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/192_zps5a4ir3xk.jpg.html)

Should have put the fifth wheel back on after doing the supports. Would have been easier.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/193_zpsfghrhpdi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/193_zpsfghrhpdi.jpg.html)

As I expected, with the V8 exhaust there is not enough room for the MAN battery box (the black bit) and air tanks.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/194_zpsjozz7aw7.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/194_zpsjozz7aw7.jpg.html)

I will put the servo kit from an 8x8 truck instead. This will also solve the hassle of having both diff lock servos in the fuel tank.

Rakthi
11-23-2015, 11:27 PM
Test fitted the servo box from a MAN 8x8 truck. It is only held on with one screw at the moment.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/197_zpsxktoe3oi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/197_zpsxktoe3oi.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/196_zpsow2xogup.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/196_zpsow2xogup.jpg.html)

Will need to enlarge one hole sideways (arrow) and drill another one below that to get the 4 screws in to hold it securely in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/195_zpsf08q8snu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/195_zpsf08q8snu.jpg.html)

One of the attachment points of the servo needs to be removed. As you can see in this picture one support is a bit longer than the other so it is already adjusted for the narrowing of the frame towards the rear.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/198_zpsey1261cu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/198_zpsey1261cu.jpg.html)

To hold the servo stable with only one attachment point, a clamp bar is provided that clicks into one of the slots provided on the side and is screwed down on the other side.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/200_zpsej4bg9jz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/200_zpsej4bg9jz.jpg.html)

The Hitec servo is just a bit too big to be able to use the clamp bar as intended. Don't really know if I can safely shave of a mm or so from the housing on the servo. I will dig out the one I burned on the AROCS and see.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/199_zpsaqpx4uuh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/199_zpsaqpx4uuh.jpg.html)

So now have to find the time to enlarge the holes in the frame and sort out fitment of the servo so that I can take care of the bowden cables or the rear axles.

(I seemed to have gotten a scratch (bleu line on the right) on the lens too or else a cat hair has found its way into the camera housing)

Tp_hofmann
11-24-2015, 01:33 PM
Wonderful, always delighted to watch the progress and thanks formpointing out the cat hair, i was wondering about your "watermark" ;)

Rakthi
11-24-2015, 10:44 PM
Hi Tom, not really much progress, at the moment I'm just bumbling a bit around. And yes, having 4 very "helpful" cats gives lots of surprises. Might end up using this "watermark" as an excuse for a new camera.

Small update on the servo. Did some checking and the Hitec servo is a bit higher than the Robbe Servo ScaleART included with the axles before. (Robbe went out of business so those Servos are no longer available)

I also checked the one I ruined in the previous build and it looks like you can not shave off a mm or so without messing with the structural integrity. The axles the gears are on would no longer hold secure.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/202_zpsmtyihwsw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/202_zpsmtyihwsw.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/201_zpsmutyubqo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/201_zpsmutyubqo.jpg.html)

Am sure the clamp would hold the servo in place without being clipped in the slot on the side, but still would be nice to be able to sort out some sort of solution.

Another thing to put on the "to do" list.

Rakthi
11-27-2015, 02:51 AM
Got the frame ready to drill / enlarge holes for attaching the servo holder for the 2 rear axles.

For this needed to remove the rear fender, rear wheel and exhaust.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/203_zpsbqzlwgwo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/203_zpsbqzlwgwo.jpg.html)

Holes drilled / enlarged

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/204_zpsrcm0mboa.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/204_zpsrcm0mboa.jpg.html)

Made a simple bracket/clamp to hold servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/205_zpsxmreyzc2.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/205_zpsxmreyzc2.jpg.html)

Installed the servo. (Didn't remove the unneeded attachment point at this moment)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/206_zpshoan15fz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/206_zpshoan15fz.jpg.html)

Servo holder bolted to the frame. Might elongate the holes a couple of mm so I can move it a bit more towards the fender.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/207_zpsgf3ss4lh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/207_zpsgf3ss4lh.jpg.html)

Also could do with some washers near to the exhaust to bring it more in line. Is a tad off.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/208_zpsqwtya24o.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/208_zpsqwtya24o.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/209_zpsectuffhh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/209_zpsectuffhh.jpg.html)

Rakthi
11-28-2015, 04:53 AM
The fuel tank (which will hold the servo for the front axle differential) is up next.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/210_zpsjkfqytli.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/210_zpsjkfqytli.jpg.html)

A spacer is provided to take care of the narrowing of the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/211_zpstepfdykk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/211_zpstepfdykk.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/212_zpslmh39sj0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/212_zpslmh39sj0.jpg.html)

The other tank support will to here.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/213_zps0rskpsgz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/213_zps0rskpsgz.jpg.html)

The instructions indicated to install M2x8 bolts with the heads on the outside of the frame. Bit of a fiddle and as there were 4 M2x5 philips screws included with the package I ended up using those to install the supports. Easier that way.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/214_zpsu5awdvk8.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/214_zpsu5awdvk8.jpg.html)

I installed the fuel tank without the side covers for now. I tried the side covers for size and they were such a tight fit it was quite a hassle to get them back of. Also, since I am still waiting for the right front axle, I can't install the servo as of yet either. Will have to cut some holes in the tank to accommodate the bowden cable and the wiring of the servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/215_zpscofimlwy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/215_zpscofimlwy.jpg.html)

A look at the inside of the tank:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/216_zpsbwpzqwlp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/216_zpsbwpzqwlp.jpg.html)

And with the holder for the servos in place

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/217_zpshi864a8h.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/217_zpshi864a8h.jpg.html)

The tank straps are clipped in place (and I messed up and installed them wrong way up as I found out later)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/218_zpsmfq0s1df.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/218_zpsmfq0s1df.jpg.html)

These 2 little bits are needed to attach the straps to the supports.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/219_zpscmqppslm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/219_zpscmqppslm.jpg.html)

A bit of bending involved.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/220_zpsmf3rfgxl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/220_zpsmf3rfgxl.jpg.html)

Tank strapped in.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/221_zpssaezbdyx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/221_zpssaezbdyx.jpg.html)

Had a bit of trouble getting the strap to clip into the provided space.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/222_zpscnbya0jq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/222_zpscnbya0jq.jpg.html)

Only after seeing these pictures I noticed why I had a bit of trouble ... Well will redo it tomorrow or so. :rolleyes:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/223_zpsfaihcdo7.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/223_zpsfaihcdo7.jpg.html)

A nice touch is that the provided gas cap in not it plastic as I expected but is machined out of aluminium!

Rakthi
12-06-2015, 11:16 PM
Finally found some time to work on the truck.

Remembered just in time attach the supports for the electronic module to the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/224_zpslm8pvnri.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/224_zpslm8pvnri.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/225_zpsuyzz6oto.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/225_zpsuyzz6oto.jpg.html)

Next comes the cross brace that will hold the motor/transfer/transmission.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/226_zps0fyair8g.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/226_zps0fyair8g.jpg.html)

At first I put it on the inside of the frame. And I used the wrong nuts too, so not enough thread for the nuts that will hold the gangplank in place. (should have checked the instructions)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/227_zpsych0zj79.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/227_zpsych0zj79.jpg.html)

These are the correct nuts. They are half the thickness of the model nuts.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/228_zpsmlcu2eaq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/228_zpsmlcu2eaq.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/229_zpsqbmhzar5.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/229_zpsqbmhzar5.jpg.html)

Screwing the motor into the gear- transfer box. (different from the AROCS where they were 2 separate units) The motor is kept from unscrewing by a grub screw.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/230_zpsznuay0dr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/230_zpsznuay0dr.jpg.html)

Ready to bolt to the support

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/231_zps6xmpe7hj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/231_zps6xmpe7hj.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/232_zpskz7xhdhm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/232_zpskz7xhdhm.jpg.html)

Gangplank on top - might turn it around to go over the exhaust. Don't like the fact you can see the gearbox support peaking out from under it. Overhang on the other side is wider. Of course after installing it, I noticed I had forgotten the earth strap of the motor.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/233_zpsrgfwa2vv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/233_zpsrgfwa2vv.jpg.html)

Fixed.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/234_zpsyejuwelv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/234_zpsyejuwelv.jpg.html)

Meanwhile got notice from ScaleART that the new front axle is on its way here. Hopefully it does not get stuck in Customs over the holidays ...

Rakthi
12-14-2015, 01:39 AM
Finally convinced myself to assemble the servo cluster that goes in front of the motor/gearbox. Not one of my favourite parts.

I am not doing a complete install on this because I will have to take it all apart again for painting later on.

The servos, frame and nuts/bolts are included in the motor/gearbox module.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/235_zpsy2o2tkac.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/235_zpsy2o2tkac.jpg.html)

First to go in is the steering servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/236_zpsjmgudjwh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/236_zpsjmgudjwh.jpg.html)

Next the guide for the bowden cable of the transfer box/center differential lock

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/237_zpstfqfs701.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/237_zpstfqfs701.jpg.html)

The holder for the bowden cable

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/238_zpsqiqo5ejx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/238_zpsqiqo5ejx.jpg.html)

Followed by the servo for the gearbox and centre differential.

The gearbox servo didn't seem to fit flush.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/239_zps6yij5ui6.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/239_zps6yij5ui6.jpg.html)

This is because the Hitec servos have these ridges ... The previously supplied Robbe servos did not have them.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/240_zps5ksito2g.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/240_zps5ksito2g.jpg.html)

No big deal, a couple of strokes with a file and they are gone.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/241_zpsjqjjxrdv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/241_zpsjqjjxrdv.jpg.html)

The servo cluster ready to be installed in the frame

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/242_zpsukdlxeam.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/242_zpsukdlxeam.jpg.html)

And held in place with 4 screws. The holes in the servo frame have thread in them

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/243_zpsogo6vprn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/243_zpsogo6vprn.jpg.html)

Contrary to the AROCS, I didn't have to bend the leads of the motor out of the way to fit the servo cluster in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/244_zpsjds7nssf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/244_zpsjds7nssf.jpg.html)

Northern Farmer
12-14-2015, 02:39 AM
Great looking build Stephan, sure are a lot of pieces in these kits :eek: Question does scaleart tell you to put the heads of the bolts on the inside of the frame rails ?

Rakthi
12-14-2015, 03:31 AM
Hi Brandon, yup, the assembly drawings coming with the modules have the heads of the bolts on the inside. I did try to reverse some of them thinking it would be easier, but getting those nuts on the bolts on the inside of the frame is a nerve wrecking experience. Just holding the bolt with a finger while tightening the nut with the driver works like a charm. There is enough friction from the bolt head to be able to tighten the nut without having to go crazy. - Although, I must say, in some places one comes rather close to it :)

Northern Farmer
12-14-2015, 09:42 AM
Keep up the hard work :cool:

Roundabout
12-14-2015, 03:57 PM
that is one bad *** build you got going, love the air suspension on the rear axels.

Rakthi
12-14-2015, 11:38 PM
@ Northern Farmer - Brandon, sweating away here :)

@ Roundabout - Totally agree with you! But might take the air suspension of this one and save if for a possible future build. Articulation too limited for the intended usage of this truck ... :o :)

Rakthi
12-14-2015, 11:56 PM
Apart from the missing front axle that should arrive today or tomorrow according to the tracking info, installing the last bits to the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/245_zpsolsgc210.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/245_zpsolsgc210.jpg.html)

The TGX can be ordered with either the "street bumper" or the "steel bumper". I opted for the steel bumper. This means that the lower step of the cabin is attached to the frame. (I love this bit of detail)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/246_zpsbkporjbe.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/246_zpsbkporjbe.jpg.html)

The grid for the step is supposed to be glued on, but since I still need to paint it is just put in place on for the picture.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/247_zpsmga9vc52.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/247_zpsmga9vc52.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/248_zpsggca1kgv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/248_zpsggca1kgv.jpg.html)

Then the bash plate.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/250_zpspu2kdxpd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/250_zpspu2kdxpd.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/251_zps7rfde2l9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/251_zps7rfde2l9.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/252_zpspkvg8ipn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/252_zpspkvg8ipn.jpg.html)

The 4 bolts that will hold the front bumper.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/253_zpswzd63nlc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/253_zpswzd63nlc.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/254_zpsuq0uhokn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/254_zpsuq0uhokn.jpg.html)

The bumper still needs the lights installed and I need to do some alterations too before I can install it.

I would like to attach the protection for the lights, but I will have to drill 8 1mm holes ... will be the question if I can work up the courage to drill those 8 holes ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/255_zpsdyviax0s.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/255_zpsdyviax0s.jpg.html)

I also got the optional front coupling for the truck.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/257_zpscpec44qw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/257_zpscpec44qw.jpg.html)

For this I will need a 2.5 mm bit to drill out the circled holes in the bumper.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/256_zps10x2gv5y.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/256_zps10x2gv5y.jpg.html)

Rakthi
12-17-2015, 04:28 AM
Tuesday evening got the new front axle delivered :)

Here some pictures to show the difference between the 2 axles - the one with the narrow centre is the new one.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/258_zpstqzh7rus.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/258_zpstqzh7rus.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/259_zpsdmcrhddl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/259_zpsdmcrhddl.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/260_zpsfiytecc4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/260_zpsfiytecc4.jpg.html)

Finally I can get rid of the little tub I used to support the truck

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/261_zpsxhq0fu43.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/261_zpsxhq0fu43.jpg.html)

Previous I had added the spacer blocks for the front suspension. I found out that that way the truck was too high at the front when using the air suspension. So took it back out and re-installed the shorter screws. This leaves not much play on the front suspension, but it is still doable. Differential is not hitting the gearbox under compression.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/263_zpsaqnzf76p.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/263_zpsaqnzf76p.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/264_zps5tqclgx6.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/264_zps5tqclgx6.jpg.html)

Axle installed, next the front Trilex rims.

Here are the parts. I had to ream out the paint in the centre of the red front piece with a 10mm drill so it would fit over the centre nub. You can see the raised bit on the inside of the rim that will be clamped between the 2 pieces.


http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/262_zpspdva8fir.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/262_zpspdva8fir.jpg.html)

First the black part goes on.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/265_zpsrywigtu4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/265_zpsrywigtu4.jpg.html)

Followed by the rim

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/266_zpsqfblumay.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/266_zpsqfblumay.jpg.html)

And then the outside bit gets bolted on and the tire installed.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/267_zpsl3omz5ep.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/267_zpsl3omz5ep.jpg.html)

To tell the truth, this is easier said than done - therefor the lack of pictures :). To line everything was a tedious job because the red part is really a very tight fit. I solved that by using two small pins that I inserted in the holes marked with the red arrows. This really made it a straightforward job.

Next the connecting rod for the 2 front wheels

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/269_zpsfkhvqnps.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/269_zpsfkhvqnps.jpg.html)

And finally the truck stands on its own wheels :)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/268_zpsl7ro7dsh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/268_zpsl7ro7dsh.jpg.html)

I did not insert the hubcaps of the rear wheels. They are a real pain to insert and an even bigger pain to get back out.

Rakthi
12-17-2015, 04:35 AM
In the package of the axle came some extra M2x8 bolts I had ordered for the rear wheels to replace the short bolts that came with the axles. As I mentioned before those short bolts were only 1 - 2 threads into the black part and came out rather easily. If tightened too hard they would strip the threads. As you can see one already fell out.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/279_zpsdc8izhgw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/279_zpsdc8izhgw.jpg.html)

With the M2x8 in place, a strong and secure bond. I also prefer this look better and am thinking of cutting some M2x8s down to 6mm to use on the front wheels.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/280_zpsdnyojplf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/280_zpsdnyojplf.jpg.html)

View from the back with the short bolts

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/282_zpsrwvuss8u.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/282_zpsrwvuss8u.jpg.html)

With the M2x8

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/281_zpsdkrkbdlg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/281_zpsdkrkbdlg.jpg.html)

Rakthi
12-20-2015, 01:04 AM
Drilled the holes needed for the head light protectors and the heavy front coupling.

All taped up ready for drilling
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/284_zpsqgzyqgam.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/284_zpsqgzyqgam.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/285_zpsbklj1oql.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/285_zpsbklj1oql.jpg.html)

8 little holes drilled

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/287_zpszxlqbnhc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/287_zpszxlqbnhc.jpg.html)

Finished. I used a 1mm drill for the small holes and afterwards enlarged them a be with a 1/32" bit (1.19mm) from Dremel to fit the copper nails provided to hold the protection in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/289_zpsbpydqbsz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/289_zpsbpydqbsz.jpg.html)

Drilling the 2mm holes out to 2,5 mm was not as easy as expected. Needed to remove rather a lot of material. The original hole was not that deep.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/290_zpsujan69zq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/290_zpsujan69zq.jpg.html)

Now have to paint the head light protection before I can continue.

Tp_hofmann
12-20-2015, 04:03 AM
Fantastic build ! Cant wait for the next update ..

Br,
Tom

Rakthi
12-21-2015, 02:16 AM
Thanks Tom, here a very tiny update ...

I painted the headlight protection with Humbrol 19 - as close as they have to RAL 3002.

Also painted the heads of the copper nails provided to attach to the bumper.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/292_zpsjdx9kjwl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/292_zpsjdx9kjwl.jpg.html)

Didn't get to install. Noticed that the holes for the protection are in or right at the square impression where the head lights will go. Did a quick test and looks like the top left and top right (arrows) will need careful shortening of the copper nails. The 3 other on each light just miss the light assembly.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/291_zpslebge39n.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/291_zpslebge39n.jpg.html)

Can't do much more for the moment because I succeeded in sawing into my left thumb while messing with some stupid plants in the garden yesterday. :rolleyes:

Cossett
12-21-2015, 03:04 AM
Just wondering why they light covers aren't nuts and screws and how are the nails held into stop them coming out ?

Cheers Tracy

Rakthi
12-21-2015, 04:28 AM
Hi Tracy,

Yeah, was wondering that myself. Was a bit surprised to just find the metal plate with a little bag of copper nails and no instructions. Was hoping it would be more like on the Arocs where they provide an indentation for the first hole to drill and then you can use the protection bit as a template.

They do have those thin bolts and nuts, they did include them with the Arocs visor, but then looking at it, the nut would really interfere with the placement of the head light unit.

I will use superglue to glue the copper nails in place. That should do. There is no tension or load on the things.

Rakthi
12-23-2015, 10:10 PM
Found myself with free time yesterday so made some progress on the bumper.

First needed to paint in the indicators.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/293_zps2no7zwgt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/293_zps2no7zwgt.jpg.html)

Next glue in the nails holding the head light protection

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/294_zpsjeu3rlf4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/294_zpsjeu3rlf4.jpg.html)

Clip the copper nails off as close as possible

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/295_zpszni5ihb9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/295_zpszni5ihb9.jpg.html)

Insert the provided plastic to function as the headlight glass and install the headlights.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/296_zpsdsrzbkqi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/296_zpsdsrzbkqi.jpg.html)

Install the LED board. Only held with one screw.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/297_zpsndwqcsr6.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/297_zpsndwqcsr6.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/299_zpskhpl0mhi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/299_zpskhpl0mhi.jpg.html)

Then the rest of the bumper parts

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/300_zpsr7z7zctc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/300_zpsr7z7zctc.jpg.html)

The step bar clips in the 4 provided holes. Supposed to be glued in place but was a very tight fit.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/301_zps1n4tpn48.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/301_zps1n4tpn48.jpg.html)

The number plate holder goes in at the back of the bumper.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/302_zps6dtm7jvq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/302_zps6dtm7jvq.jpg.html)

Next the handle and pin are inserted

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/303_zpsa42ycvku.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/303_zpsa42ycvku.jpg.html)

Numberplate clipped on and the 10 plugs inserted.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/304_zpswhptebjb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/304_zpswhptebjb.jpg.html)

Inside grillwork

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/305_zpstd8lerfh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/305_zpstd8lerfh.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/306_zpsmmeov7x2.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/306_zpsmmeov7x2.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/307_zpsbkfkhfv4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/307_zpsbkfkhfv4.jpg.html)

The number plate will need to be unclipped and removed to accommodate the spacers of the heavy duty front coupling.

Rakthi
12-23-2015, 10:25 PM
The heavy duty front coupling

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/308_zpsdnzrigdw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/308_zpsdnzrigdw.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/309_zpsufbocvcm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/309_zpsufbocvcm.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/310_zpsdibbdkaz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/310_zpsdibbdkaz.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/311_zps8nvlckl1.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/311_zps8nvlckl1.jpg.html)

Support bar for the push/pull rods gets bolted on.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/312_zpsswwn9tpi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/312_zpsswwn9tpi.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/313_zps3mlkuwis.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/313_zps3mlkuwis.jpg.html)

The push/pull rods that will attach to the chassis

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/314_zpsvjnzhoeg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/314_zpsvjnzhoeg.jpg.html)

The bits in the upper left corner are not used here. They are to attach the coupling to the frame of other models.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/315_zpsd1aexdst.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/315_zpsd1aexdst.jpg.html)

The M2x20 bolts get installed throught the previously drilled holes and the spacers put on.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/316_zpslka9602t.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/316_zpslka9602t.jpg.html)

Bumper ready to be attached to the frame

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/317_zps59ntlvkr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/317_zps59ntlvkr.jpg.html)

Bumper attached and screw needs be bolted through the black grill and chassis. This screw serves to hold the spring to lock the front of the cabin and also prevents the unlikely event of the bumper being pulled of the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/318_zpsiphohbty.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/318_zpsiphohbty.jpg.html)

Screw bolted on and spring installed. Arrow indicates where the push/pull rod from the heavy duty coupling will attach.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/319_zpsinfyq5vh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/319_zpsinfyq5vh.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/320_zpserw2rq0z.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/320_zpserw2rq0z.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/321_zpspomotf2c.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/321_zpspomotf2c.jpg.html)

Jolipe
12-29-2015, 01:47 PM
�� I love this ✅

Rakthi
12-31-2015, 04:22 AM
:) Hi Jolipe, glad you enjoy the thread

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Started on the cabin. You can see that the MAN is an older design. The tolerances are not as tight as those on the AROCS.

According to the manual, supposed to first attach the door hinge. However I received the kit with the door already in place. So left it like that. I presume they must have had a good reason for it. Probably has to do with the alignment of the doors.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/322_zpsxuowfjtp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/322_zpsxuowfjtp.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/323_zpsbbbchtxb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/323_zpsbbbchtxb.jpg.html)

Close up of the hinge

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/324_zpsiu9ho1mc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/324_zpsiu9ho1mc.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/325_zpsbw6rdpbw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/325_zpsbw6rdpbw.jpg.html)

Next door handle (to be glued in with crazy glue) and the fender indicator glass that clips in from the outside.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/326_zps5a2ememb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/326_zps5a2ememb.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/327_zpsywejjl3m.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/327_zpsywejjl3m.jpg.html)

Followed by the steps.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/328_zps7xn9mkac.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/328_zps7xn9mkac.jpg.html)

That slot in here

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/329_zpswtzlptfq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/329_zpswtzlptfq.jpg.html)

As you can see they will need a little fine tuning for a perfect fit.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/330_zpsaiqf7rid.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/330_zpsaiqf7rid.jpg.html)

Then the interior of the door. For some reason they delivered 2 sets of covers for the inside metal door cover. One set came with the optional carpet (the one with the holes) and the other one was with the steps/door handle and other little exterior bits.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/331_zpslrxlueev.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/331_zpslrxlueev.jpg.html)

First the door glass. Still have to remove the protective film

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/332_zpsucv3tynz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/332_zpsucv3tynz.jpg.html)

Then the metal insert

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/333_zpso3kgbks9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/333_zpso3kgbks9.jpg.html)

Interior door fabric (the one with the holes easier to fit)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/334_zpsffijqysq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/334_zpsffijqysq.jpg.html)

And the inside door panel

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/335_zpsizpsv77y.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/335_zpsizpsv77y.jpg.html)

As you can see, I didn't install the stuff. Just checked for fit and finish. Now have to go look through the nuts and bolts delivered with the cabin to find the right ones.

Tp_hofmann
12-31-2015, 02:30 PM
I made the same observation with carpets and already assembled doors ;)

While assembling you will see, what progress they made on cab construction between the man and arocs ... The arocs was a piece of cake compared to the man.

Rakthi
01-01-2016, 01:11 AM
Hi Tom, yes indeed, one of the reasons I am fitting things without assembling immediately. Read enough build threads on ScaleART MAN trucks to know that due to the larger tolerances between the parts there is some fiddling needed to make it all come together. Still the quality of the parts is excellent. Just a bit more work assembling. No rush on this one.

Prop Shaft
01-06-2016, 03:39 PM
I just found this new build of yours, awesome! I havent been surfing the boards much lately. Subbed naturally. I love these scale art kits, so much detail and functionality. Watching this one to the end.

Rakthi
01-07-2016, 03:32 AM
Hi Prop, going to take some time before this one is finished ... for some reason I can't seem to find time to work on it. And I will have to take the whole lot apart again for painting too. All good fun though.

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Today had some time to work on the cabin ... well give me one of those new Mercedes cabins any day ... the MAN needs way more tweaking with loosening and tightening screws to line things up.

Here some pics. Forgot to take some of the front piece but since the left door is acting up, I have to redo that side so will try to remember to take pictures of that part.

Assembled the doors. The magnet is glued in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/336_zpsesfymntc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/336_zpsesfymntc.jpg.html)

On both doors I replaced the lower M2x4 countersunk screw with a M2x6. The M2x4 didn't seem to go deep enough. The arrow points to the galvanised one that will serve as a lock with the magnet.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/337_zpsluvaboem.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/337_zpsluvaboem.jpg.html)

Both done

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/338_zps6eyaewsi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/338_zps6eyaewsi.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/339_zpswyyg7p9s.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/339_zpswyyg7p9s.jpg.html)

Glue in the little side windows with 2 component glue, wait for it to set and stick on the black outline stickers.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/340_zps8mfcpltb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/340_zps8mfcpltb.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/341_zpschwam8c4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/341_zpschwam8c4.jpg.html)

Forgot to take the pics of the small black sticker that goes on the door frame.

The front part attaches to the side parts same way as on the AROCS with cast holes that fit the hexagonal nuts. (will take pictures of that when I check why the door on the left is acting up)

Different is this piece that connects the front to the side and at the same time acts as support for the interior of the cab. The 2 pins for the front cabin lock were already installed.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/342_zpscbsyms03.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/342_zpscbsyms03.jpg.html)

A quick test fitting

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/343_zpsgwe3tobe.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/343_zpsgwe3tobe.jpg.html)

Manual states to first do the side panel ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/344_zpsw3aqlys0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/344_zpsw3aqlys0.jpg.html)

And then the angled piece. Tightening those allen bolts is an exercise in patience.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/345_zps6orxhgkl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/345_zps6orxhgkl.jpg.html)

Both sides installed. When all screws tightened, the left door pops open ... I guess I will have to remove some paint where the bottom hinge is captured in the provided slot of the front piece. Already got the paint of the bottom hinge which was a small improvement on the fit.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/346_zpsjuft5kg3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/346_zpsjuft5kg3.jpg.html)

Front view on the chassis. Will have to adjust the angle of the bumper once I got the roof and back of the cabin installed.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/347_zpsisherosu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/347_zpsisherosu.jpg.html)

Rakthi
01-09-2016, 12:22 AM
The difficulty with the left door turned out to be my own fault for over tightening the screws on that side ... :o

Assembling this cab needs a totally different approach than the AROCS one. Have to be way more careful and take your time with adjusting tension on screws etc.

Here the missing pics from yesterday:

As you can see same principle as the AROCS. 2 hexagonal openings to hold the nuts for the screws used to attach the side panel. The hole in the middle is for the wind deflector that will cover the holes. Note the 2 little pins that fit in the holes on the front part so the deflector will line up perfectly.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/348_zpskfani1cj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/348_zpskfani1cj.jpg.html)

Wind deflector - this bit is in plastic.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/349_zpsmonvbrmm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/349_zpsmonvbrmm.jpg.html)

Inside of the front where the bottom hinge of the door fits into.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/350_zpsld5o61n4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/350_zpsld5o61n4.jpg.html)

Door adjusted - and with the black sticker applied.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/351_zpsopx8f5go.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/351_zpsopx8f5go.jpg.html)

Next is the roof and here I ran into a temporary hold ... the LED for the position lights and the indicator on the side of the cabin are missing. ScaleART already informed me they will send them, but this will take a couple of weeks ... So for now I will just test fit the rest of the cab.

Roof outside and inside. The small holes are for the sun visor, the 2 big holes are for the rotating lights.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/352_zpsqfo1xeor.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/352_zpsqfo1xeor.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/353_zpsrkq9lpd4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/353_zpsrkq9lpd4.jpg.html)

A quick fit revealed they were not joking when they inform you in the manual to loosen the screws holding the side and front panels together.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/354_zpspjep1xsx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/354_zpspjep1xsx.jpg.html)

Here the roof with the recommended hardware to bolt it in place. The little key things in the front have to do with the front window. Just one little problem, all the screws were too long. The M3x8 should be M3x6 and the M3x6 should be M3x4 ... Used left over screws from the AROCS, but didn't have M3x4 for the little key things.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/358_zps0v3u9rsm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/358_zps0v3u9rsm.jpg.html)

I also did not glue the 2 small position light covers in place yet either.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/357_zpss0cs5fzy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/357_zpss0cs5fzy.jpg.html)

One of the rotating lights

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/355_zpsjnte2zcv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/355_zpsjnte2zcv.jpg.html)

Opened up

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/356_zpsyrggqcda.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/356_zpsyrggqcda.jpg.html)

Roof installed. The wires of the rotating light are supposed to go behind the attachment points of the roof, but since it all has to come off again didn't bother with it. Those wires are so thin, they are a pain.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/359_zpsigciiqwa.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/359_zpsigciiqwa.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/362_zpsuzukqn1h.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/362_zpsuzukqn1h.jpg.html)

Because of the slope of the roof there is some air between the roof and the beacons. Christian (Newcomer_2) sorted that on his TGS by putting some thin foam under it. Doesn't really bother me, but I will keep an eye out for a suitable material.

Got the back panel out too, but didn't get around to installing it yet. Was surprised it was in plastic.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/360_zpsbmkr1owd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/360_zpsbmkr1owd.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/361_zpsuurpg7jx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/361_zpsuurpg7jx.jpg.html)

Cossett
01-09-2016, 07:00 AM
Are they Pistenking beacons as they look it and from my experience are the best on the market ?

Cheers Tracy

Rakthi
01-09-2016, 08:59 AM
Yup Tracy, they are the Pistenking ones. Forgot to mention that. If you order them as optional extra from ScaleART, they will drill the holes in the roof for you.

Jolipe
01-12-2016, 09:14 AM
I simply love to see yours posts, detailed, wonderful ...

Rakthi
01-14-2016, 01:56 AM
Hi Jolipe, glad you enjoy it, but it you want to see a really detailed ScaleART thread, you should check out this one ... in German, but plenty of step by step pictures! :)

http://www.modelltruck.net/showthread.php?48867-MB-ACTROS-II-Schwerlastzugmaschine

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So back to the TGS ... yesterday I took the whole cabin apart again and re-assembled it in a different order. First front and side panels, then roof, which went on without a hitch, and then those 2 black angle pieces that will hold the floor of the cabin. This way things lined up easier.

So now time for the back piece.

First need to add the metal lock bar for the rear. Need to drill out the 4 holes for the bolts. I used a 1.5mm bit. Bolts are 1.6mm.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/363_zpstbshwms8.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/363_zpstbshwms8.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/364_zpspyvms4iu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/364_zpspyvms4iu.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/365_zpswlcpvoxv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/365_zpswlcpvoxv.jpg.html)

Next is the 2 plastic covers for the cabin ventilation. These just glued in place

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/366_zpsx66vzwdn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/366_zpsx66vzwdn.jpg.html)

Ready to be bolted to the rest of the cabin. Manual specs M3x8 for the top, but replaced those with M3x6. the 8 ones were too long (might work for the XXL version with the high roof). The rest of the screws are M2x8.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/367_zps05iu5fte.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/367_zps05iu5fte.jpg.html)

The M2x8 are a bit long, so will replace them with shorter ones when I reassemble the cabin once i receive the LEDs. The little holes I circled are for optional airflow panels.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/369_zpseinng2vx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/369_zpseinng2vx.jpg.html)

Next the air intake cover on the left side of the cabin.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/370_zpsajisnmom.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/370_zpsajisnmom.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/371_zpsxwcuberk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/371_zpsxwcuberk.jpg.html)

The openings are to run the wiring through to the electronics compartment. It will be covered by the other part of the air intake

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/372_zpssz0gebpi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/372_zpssz0gebpi.jpg.html)

Air intake cover laid in place (not attached yet)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/373_zpsp0es0mxo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/373_zpsp0es0mxo.jpg.html)

Cabin fitted to frame. Will need to adjust the angle of the bumper and extend the supporting arms of the heavy coupling.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/374_zpsurxzyejh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/374_zpsurxzyejh.jpg.html)

Back of cabin with air intake cover temporarily in place

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/375_zpsbwxzfvda.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/375_zpsbwxzfvda.jpg.html)

Rear locking mechanism

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/376_zpsrw6fejqj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/376_zpsrw6fejqj.jpg.html)

Top view comparison with cabin from the Arocs

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/377_zpsog52bjph.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/377_zpsog52bjph.jpg.html)

Next up will put the electronic compartment in so I can see what is visible from the back and needs painting, then take the lot apart, paint and final assembly. Can't do much with the cabin until I get the position and indicator LEDs.

Prop Shaft
01-14-2016, 07:52 PM
Hey Stephan. Those trucks are looking awesome.

Hows the Tatra doin? Just sitting a shelf like mine? Lol They have a 3rd version of it out now and I must say I think Im going to grab one. It has everything I wish the V2 had.

Rakthi
01-15-2016, 01:54 AM
Yup, the Tatra is indeed gathering dust ... for some reason the cats love to sit on it.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/CAPO%208x8/900_zpsssyqqjt5.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/CAPO%208x8/900_zpsssyqqjt5.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/CAPO%208x8/899_zpsqg6cfxtq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/CAPO%208x8/899_zpsqg6cfxtq.jpg.html)

Mhmm Version 3 ... didn't know that. They have obtained the official licensing from Tatra too.

Looks like your list of projects to start is getting longer too :)

Rakthi
01-15-2016, 04:03 AM
Had some time and did a quick install of the electronic support module.

First the bottom plate goes in. Didn't have to cut or file anything, fitted like a charm.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/378_zps0ponozaq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/378_zps0ponozaq.jpg.html)

This bottom plate bolts on to the 2 holders installed a while back.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/379_zpsf5rpqxpu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/379_zpsf5rpqxpu.jpg.html)

Then follows the rear box that will hold the battery and electrical distribution board

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/380_zpss7xewspd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/380_zpss7xewspd.jpg.html)

When doing the final install, the 4 pieces have to be bend over. Then a screw through it to bolt onto the bottom plate.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/381_zpsowjfqvyy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/381_zpsowjfqvyy.jpg.html)

Following step is bolting one plate on each side to the stainless steel plate that holds the air filter and locking mechanism of the rear of the cab.

Forgot to take a picture of it because getting those plates in place was colourful language moment.

Then followed by a tray so there are 2 levels for the electronics. So plenty of room compared to the Arocs.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/382_zpsxrm7w9qw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/382_zpsxrm7w9qw.jpg.html)

Bottom supposed to hold the ECS, receiver and sound module, the top level the light module. Since I have the Commander bus system, I don't have a light module. Plenty of room.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/383_zpsoq7wkomd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/383_zpsoq7wkomd.jpg.html)

Also straightened the front bumper by lengthening the bars on the front coupling.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/384_zpsiadcouic.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/384_zpsiadcouic.jpg.html)

Picture of the back so I know what needs painting

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/385_zpsepzaxgez.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/385_zpsepzaxgez.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/386_zpsqia4hcvi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/386_zpsqia4hcvi.jpg.html)

Now take the lot apart, paint and re-assemble adding all the missing bits like servos, cables, propshafts etc ... still need to come up with a solution for the rear lights too.

Might be a while for an update ...

Prop Shaft
01-15-2016, 04:42 PM
Yup, the Tatra is indeed gathering dust ... for some reason the cats love to sit on it.


Mhmm Version 3 ... didn't know that. They have obtained the official licensing from Tatra too.

Looks like your list of projects to start is getting longer too :)

The cats are hilarious. Think they would stay put if it was in motion? Lol

The v3 has an over hauled drive train, seems to be geared lower now wich is good. Im definitely going to grab one at some point. Then what to do with my v2...

My lists of projects is eclipsing my available time. I have my eye on the Ural from Cross, as well as a bin full of parts for a 1:10 Man Kat scratch build.... Oh yeah, and I have a tote full of parts for a Bruiser based Hilux that I havent had time to touch either.... I keep telling myself "soon" I'll get to these other builds.

What are your plans for the Man?

Rakthi
01-15-2016, 08:15 PM
Plans for the TGX ... decided to replace the air suspension with a leaf suspension. The air suspension is not going to work in our back lot.

Next will be painting, am tempted to start on the trailer, but already have a bit of a problem keeping track of the small bits and pieces I will need to install when re-assembling.

The trailer promises to be an interesting piece to assemble.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/387_zpssdqeuuue.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/387_zpssdqeuuue.jpg.html)

On the Tatra V2, I am sure you can sell that one easy. Been thinking of selling mine, but the shipping from Malaysia would be rather expensive ...

Found CAPOs Facebook page, looks indeed like they beefed up the whole drive train, better suspension (seems they are working on a working airbag one too), included an interior for the cab, each axle separate differential lock, more details (guess part of the licensing agreement) and different load area.

https://www.facebook.com/Caporacing/posts/863920540393392

Interesting ... but I'll pass on this one ... saving up for a CAT 963D track loader ...

Prop Shaft
01-15-2016, 09:41 PM
Yeah its more about the scale for me, I love the scale art offerings but I find the scale on the small side for my tastes. And since theres really nothing else in the 1:10 scale market, I find myself limited for offerings. Still love following your builds tho so keep the updates coming!

Rakthi
01-16-2016, 01:52 AM
Guess I'm kind of committed to the 1:14.5 scale at the moment, the Tatra is kind of the white elephant. That new versions sure looks like it will be value for the money!

Now trying to remember where I put the thin brass plate so I can sort out the rear lights of the TGX.

Rakthi
01-16-2016, 10:11 PM
After fiddling around with bits of paper trying to get some way to fix the rear lights to the fender I realised I could actually use the provided supports.

Just a matter of having the left one on the right and the right one on the left

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/388_zpsbvitcnaq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/388_zpsbvitcnaq.jpg.html)

So now it is simple a matter of cutting off the excess bits and drilling two holes so I can bolt it to the fender. Should work.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/389_zpswwxy5goe.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/389_zpswwxy5goe.jpg.html)

I'll stick with this unless I get a better idea.

Cossett
01-17-2016, 02:20 AM
Before you cut the mounts test fit the light so your sure they fit

Cheers Tracy

Rakthi
01-17-2016, 09:08 PM
Hi Tracy, good point, was thinking about that. The screws that attach the actual lights might interfere with the fender supports.

Before cutting into the supports I will try to make a support out of some thin brass plate I have using the supports as a template. Now I hope that reading Berna's threads, maybe some of his brass working skills have rubbed of on me. :rolleyes::lol:

Rakthi
01-18-2016, 03:58 AM
After Tracy's post and looking at the rear lights again, tried the simple approach.

Trimmed a small piece of thin brass plate into 2 L shaped pieces and used the original supports to drill the 2 holes needed to attach the rear lights. The 2 pieces fit in between the 2 clamps holding on the fender and are just under the fender support. (Too bad I don't have the scale diamond plate here)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/390_zpsmah0eapm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/390_zpsmah0eapm.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/391_zpssp3ags3z.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/391_zpssp3ags3z.jpg.html)

Corresponding holes drilled in the fenders

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/392_zpsndsv7wxx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/392_zpsndsv7wxx.jpg.html)

Rear light screwed on

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/393_zpsxhbjcikl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/393_zpsxhbjcikl.jpg.html)

Both with the coloured glass. The coloured cover is not completely pushed home, still have to glue in the transparent piece and I think I have to colour the indicator part of it too. Have to check that one.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/394_zpsmgdcaasd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/394_zpsmgdcaasd.jpg.html)

Will paint the brass black before the final install.

Here pictures of the front and back of the PistenKing LED boards they make for ScaleART.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/395_zpsxjfeyfyn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/395_zpsxjfeyfyn.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/396_zpsbdhgukrd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/396_zpsbdhgukrd.jpg.html)

I will probably drill another hole through the brass plate and fender to guide the wires inside the fender ... will see how that works out.

Only thing left is to figure out where to makel the hole in the fuel tank to get the bowden cable to the servo of the front differential that is supposed to go in there.

Prop Shaft
01-18-2016, 06:13 AM
Looks great.

Rakthi
01-18-2016, 09:17 AM
Well I wish I could say it was my meticulous measuring etc. but in reality, the bit of brass I cut/bend figuring I will adjust it until it fits, just fitted perfectly first time around. Pure luck. And for bonus points, the rear light fits between the brackets holding the fender to the support.

Now disassembling and painting time.

Doggy
01-19-2016, 10:53 AM
This is a great build. Nice to see so many close photos of the parts we usually cant see if we dont buy it. The more i look at scaleart truck, the more I want one.

Cabin on that truck is aluminum?

Rakthi
01-19-2016, 11:37 PM
The cab is cast metal, but I don't think it is aluminum, a bit too heavy for that. Probably zinc?

As for all the individual parts, they are beautifully crafted and a pleasure to assemble. Slightly addictive too.

Rakthi
01-21-2016, 03:53 AM
A quick update.

Received the missing LEDs for the position lights and indicators needed for the cab. That was fast work from ScaleART as well the postal services!
Guess the folks at ScaleART must know I'm no good at soldering ... the wires are nicely soldered on and wrapped in heat shrink tube.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/397_zps73paeuxh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/397_zps73paeuxh.jpg.html)

On the question Doggy asked about the casting material, found the answer on the ScaleART website:

https://scaleart-shop.de/en/Help/?sid=e04f5ddc9a962f500fdef5a1e0b02320

Rakthi
01-30-2016, 11:29 PM
Not much of an update, too many things going on at the same time. Sadly enough not all hobby related.

Before I started taking the truck apart for painting, I noticed that the front leaf suspension is sagging quite a bit. And this is without the weight of the battery, electronics etc. in the cabin. I will fortify the front suspension by doubling up some of the leafs with those left over from the Arocs.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/398_zpsshyhl4lq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/398_zpsshyhl4lq.jpg.html)

Meanwhile the we are almost back down to a bare frame. Disassembling is a bit of a logistical problem in keeping parts and screws organised.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/399_zpsu6naqysk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/399_zpsu6naqysk.jpg.html)

While I had access I relocated the motor support inside the frame. I will bring the gearbox/motor closer to the front differential but that should be counteracted by strengthening the front suspension.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/400_zpsny6pdfle.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/400_zpsny6pdfle.jpg.html)

Still have to assemble the rear leaf suspension to replace the airbag one and decide what gets painted black and what red ...

Prop Shaft
01-31-2016, 08:51 AM
im always struck by how good these trucks look. anxiously awaiting to see it with some paint.

Rakthi
01-31-2016, 09:50 PM
Hi Prop, you will have to wait a good while before paint gets on the frame! Weather here not that great for painting at the moment. Lots of dust in the air because of dry season. Need to mess a bit around with the chassis too. Going to install the heavy duty rear part again now that I go for the leaf suspension.

Stripped most of the parts of this morning. Next up is reinforce the front suspension and assemble the leaf suspension for the back. Looks like I might have to adjust/enlarge holes in the heavy duty rear to accommodate support for the rear fenders. Should not be to hard.

Looks like I will have many small bits to paint. Not that easy with a rattle can. At least this time I got some decent paint.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/401_zps8wicfhcd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/401_zps8wicfhcd.jpg.html)

Prop Shaft
01-31-2016, 10:21 PM
What paint are you using?

Rakthi
01-31-2016, 11:12 PM
This time round I got paint from the UK, not the local stuff. (Still rattle can though)

Going to try out a zinc primer followed by RAL 3002 Acrylic or RAL 9011 Mat Black - Depending which part.

Not going to make the mistake I did with the 409LC, so will first check compatibility of paints on a piece of scrap metal and then make sure to leave enough time between layers.

Bobby
02-01-2016, 02:34 AM
Good precise work dude. thumbs up.

Prop Shaft
02-01-2016, 06:16 AM
This time round I got paint from the UK, not the local stuff. (Still rattle can though)

Going to try out a zinc primer followed by RAL 3002 Acrylic or RAL 9011 Mat Black - Depending which part.

Not going to make the mistake I did with the 409LC, so will first check compatibility of paints on a piece of scrap metal and then make sure to leave enough time between layers.

Cool sounds like a plan.
After my first disasterous attemp painting the Jeep. Ive found the duplicolor automotive line is now my go to for rattle can paints. Probably cant source it where you are but maybe something similar if needed? what I know now will help me tremendously down the road. It is laquer based paint, which is great for drying times. You can recoat after 10 or 30 minutes, depending on the application. The most important part of this system is their self etching primer. As someone told me in one of my posts, "it sticks to just about anything". Seems they were right! What a life saver. Good luck with your painting.

Rakthi
02-01-2016, 09:00 AM
Actually I should invest in decent airbrush equipment. it's available here in Malaysia, but the supplies are rather hard to get. Because paint and thinner are "dangerous" cargo, they do not allow it on planes. So comes in on the slow boat and they never really have stock. Of course I don't order big enough supplies to make it worth their time.

The zinc primer is supposed to be self etching ... will see if it is true. According to their info it should be neutral with other paints and provide excellent adherence. Will try and see.

I also got regular grey acrylic primer in case the zinc based one doesn't work out. Whatever, it has to be better than the locally produced stuff.

Well living on a tropical island does have certain drawbacks ... there are days I wished I was back in Europe, specially if you have to wait weeks for some simple stuff.

Rakthi
02-04-2016, 10:22 PM
Another short update.

Since I will use the rear leaf suspension, I re-installed the heavy hauler rear end again. I wanted to install a coupling too. Not the Rockinger variety but a simple one which is also available from ScaleART.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/402_zpscj4vshi6.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/402_zpscj4vshi6.jpg.html)

Will need different nuts and bolts to hold it on, this would look a bit odd even after painting.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/403_zpswmhk11hv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/403_zpswmhk11hv.jpg.html)

Another thing, because the heavy hauler attachment is set deeper in, the pin can not be inserted or taken out. It bumps against the top part. I will have to rummage through my junk pile and see if I have something of suitable thickness to bring the part out enough.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/404_zpsoakgrxyd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/404_zpsoakgrxyd.jpg.html)

Cossett
02-05-2016, 01:16 AM
Try making a spacer from some thick metal flat sheet for a quick fix then find some long screws to mount it .....

Cheers Tracy

JD Transport
02-05-2016, 03:47 AM
This is a superb build, thanks for sharing.

Scaleart is lovely but I could never justify cost.

Just lovely to admire it.

Thumbs up to you for your patients on the build,if I ever won the lotto I could only get a RTR model.

Your pics are very detailed and great quality.

Thanks again I'm enjoying this. :p

Rakthi
02-05-2016, 04:55 AM
@Cossett - Hi Tracy, that is indeed what I have in mind, will have to check first how thick the stuff has to be. Have some 1.5 mm sheet aluminium around, might have to double it up though.

@JD Transport - Glad you enjoy it. The stuff is indeed lovely. I have to admit that there are the rare moments I wished I had ordered a build model.

Rakthi
02-06-2016, 03:21 AM
Turned out I needed a bit of metal at least 4mm thick to be able to clear the top cross brace of the frame.

Ended up cutting 3 small pieces of 1.5mm and messed around with them until I got something that kind of would work (most definitely not on par with Berna's work - still have a lot to learn before I could even think of building my own trucks)

Hard to see in the picture, but those 3 little pieces of aluminium took me the better part of today to get to that state. Learn while you go and fun at the same time. Will use M2x10 model bolts and nuts to bolt it all to the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/405_zps9ekn63bm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/405_zps9ekn63bm.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/406_zpsf9wjvg0l.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/406_zpsf9wjvg0l.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/407_zpsz8bho9ow.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/407_zpsz8bho9ow.jpg.html)

I had made the holes in the plates .5mm oversized to give me some wiggle space, but it looks like I will need bit more filing and sanding on the sides to straighten it all out a bit more.

Rakthi
02-10-2016, 10:33 PM
Went to assemble the rear leaf suspension 2 days ago and ran into a slight problem.
2 of the parts were missing ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/unnamed_zpsihrahbxy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/unnamed_zpsihrahbxy.jpg.html)

Here a picture of the rear leaf assembly of the Arocs ... it is the 2 black items that hold the assembly to the support and are also needed to hold the leaf pack together.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/AROCS%208X8/093_zpspxzsn5qy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/AROCS%208X8/093_zpspxzsn5qy.jpg.html)

Nice thing about ScaleART is that they make no problems and send the missing pieces immediately.

So went back to more filing and sanding on the rear coupling spacer.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/408_zpsvfeotgph.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/408_zpsvfeotgph.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/409_zpsity42ugi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/409_zpsity42ugi.jpg.html)

Since the front suspension could do with some strengthening as pointed out in a previous post, I decided to use the one leaf that is not used for the rear suspension. This should give some extra resistance to the weight of the cab without making the suspension too stiff. Should this not work out, I can still add the ones I have left over from the AROCS as you can see in the above picture.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/410_zpshf94t0to.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/410_zpshf94t0to.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/411_zps2psr9jse.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/411_zps2psr9jse.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/412_zpszuzuogbf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/412_zpszuzuogbf.jpg.html)

Now for some self inflicted extra work - can happen if one haphazardly builds these trucks without really following the book ... I completely forgot to figure out the insertion of the front differential lock servo in the tank ... For this I will need to partly re-assemble the truck ... bugger. To add insult to injury, I actually have 2 tanks. The 80cm one and the 60cm. I had gotten the shorter one in case I only needed to put one servo in the tank. That way I might have room for the 2 air tanks that normally go underneath the battery box if one uses the regular exhaust.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/413_zpsdmhllbzx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/413_zpsdmhllbzx.jpg.html)

The tank support can be moved over for the shorter thank. Although it might interfere with the support for the engine/gearbox, but that can be fixed.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/414_zpsf6gmvp9l.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/414_zpsf6gmvp9l.jpg.html)

Looks like there is just enough room to squeeze in the air tanks. Just need to figure out a bracket to hold them. The servo mount that goes into the tank can be cut if only one servo is used.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/415_zps3ishh0lw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/415_zps3ishh0lw.jpg.html)

Here the instructions that came with the servo mount for in-tank build ... looks confusing for an 8x8!

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/416_zpsivapgvlq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/416_zpsivapgvlq.jpg.html)

So have to re-install the fenders and front axle and see if I actually have the room for the air and fuel tank.

Prop Shaft
02-11-2016, 07:52 AM
Build and rebuild. Seems to be an ongoing theme with these higher end models. Sometimes making a small modification, or adding some parts here and there requires some massive diassembly. I guess on the bright side, you get to know the ins and outs of the model! Great job steph.

Rakthi
02-11-2016, 09:43 PM
Well Prop, most of this build and rebuild is self inflicted in this case ... nothing like changing ones mind halfway through to make things interesting, and not building the "standard" truck adds to it. Had hoped to have a painted chassis RTR before the end of next week. Guess it is not in the cards. Have friends visiting last week of Feb, first week of March, will have to move my stuff out of the guest wing kitchen. So everything will be on hold for a bit.

Rakthi
02-12-2016, 02:28 AM
Only way to find out if the air tanks would fit with the shorter fuel tank is to try ..

A quick move of the supports and install of the needed pieces

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/417_zpsg82y6mln.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/417_zpsg82y6mln.jpg.html)

Dropping the shorter tank in place

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/418_zps9mdkbhka.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/418_zps9mdkbhka.jpg.html)

Looks very tight. (The sides are not completely clipped on because too difficult to get them back off otherwise)

Originally the air tanks are to go underneath the battery box that no longer fits due to the V8 exhaust.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/419_zps20i3ovr0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/419_zps20i3ovr0.jpg.html)

In the V8 exhaust kit there was a holder to use for the battery box and tanks. There are plenty of holes so it should fit to the frame and hold the airtanks

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/420_zpsf2shjbn2.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/420_zpsf2shjbn2.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/421_zpstyploumd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/421_zpstyploumd.jpg.html)

However the thickness of the screw heads and the holder make it too tight. The front fender is also not straight down but has a curve towards the rear into it, so the space gets narrower near the bottom.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/422_zpsbjmnadrf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/422_zpsbjmnadrf.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/423_zpsegovp2ag.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/423_zpsegovp2ag.jpg.html)

The air tanks would fit if I bolt them to the side panel of the fuel tank. Can easily be done, but I think it would look rather weird. Will have to think about this ...

While I was looking and "pondering" noticed that the supports don't really line up

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/424_zpsrnebovda.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/424_zpsrnebovda.jpg.html)

Sorted that by using longer bolts and putting a nut between the support and the frame as a spacer. I will either shorten the long screws before painting or replaces them with more suitable ones so doesn't look so odd

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/425_zpsvnmmo0q8.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/425_zpsvnmmo0q8.jpg.html)

Could also bolt the air tanks to the front fender bit, but that is die-cast and only held in place with 2 bottles ... might break off at the support. Will see what I do.

I test fitted the longer tank with the sides and that too is a very tight fit between the front and rear fender.

tc1cat
02-12-2016, 08:31 AM
Have you got any flathead screws you could use in place of the normal mounting screws for the air tanks? Countersink the holes in the bracket and use the flathead screws should let the tanks and bracket slide right in from your pics.

Prop Shaft
02-12-2016, 08:32 AM
Have you got any flathead screws you could use in place of the normal mounting screws for the air tanks? Countersink the holes in the bracket and use the flathead screws should let the tanks and bracket slide right in from your pics.

What he said.

Rakthi
02-12-2016, 08:33 AM
Hi Lynn. Great idea! I should have some countersunk screws somewhere. Thanks for the tip!

Cossett
02-12-2016, 11:31 PM
Would bolting the tanks direct to the chassis work with a screw in the end or mount the air tanks to the rear of the chassis like you see on some trucks like this
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/10632735_911189145662024_3293251939088205063_n.jpg ?oh=d9983ea2b89473c542ed8c29f9b3414d&oe=57350969
Cheers Tracy

Rakthi
02-12-2016, 11:33 PM
So countersunk screws - sometimes the solution stares you right in the face ...

After fruitlessly messing around with the bracket that came with the V8 exhaust, it became clear that it will be simpler to make a new one.

So made a cardboard one to see if tc1cat's tip would give enough clearance.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/426_zpsx7tnpsh3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/426_zpsx7tnpsh3.jpg.html)

And as you can see, it works! :bounce:

Just need to get them a bit lower and a bit farther out from the frame.

The bracket will be held on with 3 M2 bolts. Should be sturdy enough if I use the 0.5 mm brass plate I have sitting around.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/427_zpsmosndvpu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/427_zpsmosndvpu.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/428_zpsvikqbx3y.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/428_zpsvikqbx3y.jpg.html)

I can gain some more air if I grind of a mm or two of the bottom air tank. This would be invisible from the side as it is covered by fender.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/429_zpsfyhdwyin.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/429_zpsfyhdwyin.jpg.html)

The bracket will be practically invisible from the top too.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/430_zpsb54alof9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/430_zpsb54alof9.jpg.html)

Roughly will end up looking like this. Will elongate the holes for the bolts for adjustments.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/432_zps4gvimcbd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/432_zps4gvimcbd.jpg.html)

Using a countersunk head screw for the fuel tank support also solves the problem of the head interfering with the gearbox/motor support bracket.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/431_zpsadddvlte.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/431_zpsadddvlte.jpg.html)

Rakthi
02-12-2016, 11:36 PM
Would bolting the tanks direct to the chassis work with a screw in the end or mount the air tanks to the rear of the chassis like you see on some trucks like this
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/10632735_911189145662024_3293251939088205063_n.jpg ?oh=d9983ea2b89473c542ed8c29f9b3414d&oe=57350969
Cheers Tracy

Hi Tracy, would be a cool solution, but I now have that heavy duty rear end on the truck. So no room. Also played with the idea of having them inside the frame, but just not enough room.

Thanks for the suggestion! :)

Rakthi
02-15-2016, 09:57 PM
Groan ... started on the bracket and half way through I realised that the frame support should bend the other way. As I have it now, it will be very difficult to attach the air tanks to the support. Back to the drawing board. Well at least that way I have 4 bolt holes for support.

Rakthi
02-19-2016, 01:52 AM
Succeeded in making a total mess drilling the 4 holes to attach the support to the frame. So have to start all over again.

Will have to wait for a couple of weeks though. Our visitors arrive this weekend so I have to clear my stuff out of the guest wing kitchen and box it up for the time being.

During this 2 week break I can do some more thinking on how not to mess up a rather simple support. :)

Cossett
02-19-2016, 02:09 AM
So you did you have to order new chassis rails ?

Rakthi
02-19-2016, 07:11 AM
Hi Tracy, nope, no new chassis rail, just have to cut a new piece of brass and get the holes in the right position. Just that I only have de "drill press" from Dremel, and that one has too much flex so the 4 holes I need for attaching the support to the chassis rail are crooked. Could use it after filing etc, but the contrast with with ScaleART parts is a bit too big for my liking ... Will see, have 2 weeks to ponder now. Also been thinking of soldering 3 separate pieces together, might be easier and something new to try.

Prop Shaft
02-19-2016, 02:09 PM
What?! 2 weeks with no updates? Unacceptable! Your guests are just going to have to sleep in the shed. Lol

I would only suggest trying a center punch for drilling the holes. Sounds like if you have a vice and a hand drill you might be better off with that as opposed to the dremel setup.
Good luck with it.

Rakthi
02-19-2016, 07:16 PM
Wish we had a shed ... I would move in there no time. That would give me room to get some extra power tools like a decent drill press and a proper vice. Also would save lots of time since I wouldn't have to put everything away all the time to prevent our 4 felines of re-organising the parts.

You are right about the center punch - should have used it instead of relying on the dremel, getting a new set of 1 & 2 mm drill bits would help also. Well, shouldn't blame the tools really, part is lack of skill and impatience because I tried to finish the part before the arrival of our visitors.

Prop Shaft
02-19-2016, 07:19 PM
I haer ya. Ive pretty much turned our sunroom into my hobby room. Strangly my wife seems ok with it.

Rakthi
02-20-2016, 02:37 AM
Of course could build a shed, just need good airconditioning. But we are trying to sell the house and move back to Europe. Also one of the reasons I'm reluctant to buy more tools as it would not be cost effective to move them. Well shouldn't complain, is not that we have so many visitors really.

Here some pics I took from the mess I made of bracket Mark I ... hopefully Mark II will be a tad better fitting/looking

Error 1 - Made the bend in the wrong place. Should have measured better and should have scored the brass more to get a nice sharp corner instead of this bendy thing. :rolleyes:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/433_zpsw6wqjgtf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/433_zpsw6wqjgtf.jpg.html)

Because of this error I am about 2 mm too close to the fender. You can see I have the air tanks too high up in relation to the fuel tank because (error 2) I drilled the holes to attach to the frame with the plate in the wrong place - still can't figure out how that happened. :o

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/434_zpsbc260oxw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/434_zpsbc260oxw.jpg.html)

The top air tank is pushing against the fender, bottom one wouldn't fit! Amazing what a 2mm mistake translates to.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/435_zpsmrzgkofo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/435_zpsmrzgkofo.jpg.html)

Here a look at the holes to attach the support to the frame. I thought to be smart and drill 2 2mm holes close together and than file out the little bit in between. That way I could move the support up and down. It kind of worked after a fashion. Will need more accuracy when making bracket Mark II.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/436_zpsokyk8ju0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/436_zpsokyk8ju0.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/438_zpsej9d8mnu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/438_zpsej9d8mnu.jpg.html)

Mark II I will start out with a narrower bit of brass too.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/437_zps6sxpvwai.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/437_zps6sxpvwai.jpg.html)

I know the bracket could look a little better if the excess bits are trimmed off, but still a long way to go before I get something that looks like what BERNA, RCP57 and others on here fabricate. Respect! :)

Prop Shaft
02-20-2016, 06:48 AM
Mistakes aside. At least you know it will work.

Rakthi
02-20-2016, 08:01 AM
Yup, true, but now thinking that maybe, just maybe I should put the air tanks on the other side side the fuel tank ... Then I don't have to worry so much about the front fender. Those rear ones are more forgiving ... Might give it a try. Have to wait for the missing bits of the rear suspension anyway.

Rakthi
03-10-2016, 02:07 AM
Just moved all my stuff out of storage back into the guest kitchen. Just hope I still know which container holds what. :rolleyes:

While not able to do much on the truck been thinking on how to make a support bracket for the air tanks with my limited tools.

Figured it would be better to make it in 2 separate parts. One L shaped bit that bolts on to the frame that will allow the part holding the air tanks to bolt to it. This approach will give a bit more flexibility in the distance the tanks have from the fuel tank/front fender by using spacers.

First problem is to get an accurate position of the 4 bolt holes in the frame.

I came up with the following solution that I tried out with some scrap pieces.

Cut a piece of plastic so it fits in the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/439_zps3ktcgz9v.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/439_zps3ktcgz9v.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/440_zps22nw1jc3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/440_zps22nw1jc3.jpg.html)

Clamp in place and carefully drill the 4 holes

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/441_zpsivge33ic.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/441_zpsivge33ic.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/442_zpshsytc8ya.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/442_zpshsytc8ya.jpg.html)

Clamp this to a piece of brass plate and use the holes in the plastic as a guide

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/443_zpsroncacdc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/443_zpsroncacdc.jpg.html)

As you can see it kind of worked ... just have to be able to fix it better so it can't move about during the drilling.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/444_zpsqnybmr7t.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/444_zpsqnybmr7t.jpg.html)

So that is what is on the program for the moment. Will see how far I get with this approach. Don't really want to get "stuck" on this for too long either.

Mean while the 2 missing bits of the rear suspension arrived too ... of course the self same day I put everything in temporary storage.

Prop Shaft
03-10-2016, 06:22 AM
Glad to see you back at this!

Rakthi
03-10-2016, 08:43 AM
Yup slowly getting back into the truck. Having guests kind of disrupts ones routine. So now have a list of other things that need attention too. Simple stuff but time consuming.

Tomorrow will do another attempt at drilling holes. Fingers crossed I line them up properly this time. Got a new 2mm drill bit for the occasion :)

Rakthi
03-10-2016, 11:29 PM
So my second try did work out. Bracket finished. Still needs some filing and sanding to take the sharp edges off.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/445_zpshufzyx7g.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/445_zpshufzyx7g.jpg.html)

Trial fit worked too.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/446_zps8zle9efc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/446_zps8zle9efc.jpg.html)

Still needs a bit of adjusting and maybe try with the bracket on the outside.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/447_zpss7whtsjg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/447_zpss7whtsjg.jpg.html)

Fits with the front fender too. The bottom air tank needs some mm filed off to accommodate the curve in the front fender.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/448_zpshdzoydu9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/448_zpshdzoydu9.jpg.html)

tc1cat
03-11-2016, 05:06 PM
Can you raise the tanks to allow the bottom tank to fit without mods? Looks like there is a little space to raise the mounting plate. Noticed you made multiple mounting holes in the plates for adjusting.

Cossett
03-12-2016, 12:13 AM
Lynn are you talking about packing shimes on the tank braket to raise tank a little ?

Cheers Tracy

Rakthi
03-12-2016, 12:29 AM
Hi Tracy, Lynn is asking if moving the support from the air tanks up a couple of mounting holes might help in avoiding having to file off a bit from the bottom outrank.

So I did try that this morning. By moving the straight bracket that holds the air tanks up 2 holes.

This does indeed help a bit but not really that much due to the angle of the front fender. But as you can see not too much of the air tank would have to be grinded off.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/449_zps5hq1cogg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/449_zps5hq1cogg.jpg.html)

At the moment the bottom air tank is pushing the front fender forwards so it is at an angle. (Have not tightened the bots 100% during all these fitting exercises) The angle is not as bad as it looks to be in the picture.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/450_zpstqojzgzt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/450_zpstqojzgzt.jpg.html)

Going to let this rest for a bit and get the frame ready for paint.

Rakthi
03-12-2016, 01:13 AM
So after getting side tracked with the air tanks for a bit, back to the rear suspension. As mentioned already, the missing pieces were shipped and arrived safely.

So we start by assembling the leafs of the rear suspension.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/451_zpsmqwus6xp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/451_zpsmqwus6xp.jpg.html)

Before we assemble them, I filed off the little nub that was left from the attachment point.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/452_zpsylnjon4y.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/452_zpsylnjon4y.jpg.html)

First we stack the leafs on the center bolt.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/453_zpse9tuegre.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/453_zpse9tuegre.jpg.html)

You can use two of the screws, that are used to attach other bits to the rear axles, in the big holes to make sure they are all aligned before tightening that nut.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/454_zpshy1cwfcp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/454_zpshy1cwfcp.jpg.html)

Attach the bushing support to the leaf pack

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/455_zpsuwhjsend.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/455_zpsuwhjsend.jpg.html)

Manual states to trim the screws (Left 2 done in this picture)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/456_zpszbu2vcdc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/456_zpszbu2vcdc.jpg.html)

At this time I also run a 5mm dril bit through the bushing support to remove the coating. This makes it easier to install the bushing afterwards.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/457_zpsxaobiwve.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/457_zpsxaobiwve.jpg.html)

Next up is the suspension supports (same as for the air suspension)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/458_zpsuzcfjceo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/458_zpsuzcfjceo.jpg.html)

I replace the M3x6 philips head screw with an allen head one. Easier to install (tip I got from German forum)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/459_zpsnqo4fi2g.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/459_zpsnqo4fi2g.jpg.html)

The assembly manual indicated to use the higher opening because this is a tractor truck ... might change that later because I intend to use this one more off road. Also I did not use grease on the bushing or Loctite on the screw. Have to come apart again to paint later. You can see that an allan key is easier to use than a philips screwdriver.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/460_zpsf6zn0onq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/460_zpsf6zn0onq.jpg.html)

This is as far as I got this session.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/461_zpszikprsow.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/461_zpszikprsow.jpg.html)

Rakthi
03-13-2016, 11:53 PM
Kind of weird to be quoting myself ...

Yup, true, but now thinking that maybe, just maybe I should put the air tanks on the other side side the fuel tank ...

So tried this version and turned out to be a great success! No need to file bits of the air tanks and no pressure on the front fender. Only need to drill a couple of holes from 1.5mm to 2mm which is easily done.

Here the result - (some nuts and bolts missing because still needs adjusting)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/462_zpssibyu9ha.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/462_zpssibyu9ha.jpg.html)

Need to move the left tank support one hole over. The air tank support is where the left fuel tank support was before. Will need to drill an extra hole in the frame for the third screw.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/463_zpscp1sa7bb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/463_zpscp1sa7bb.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/464_zpspmbhe1yf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/464_zpspmbhe1yf.jpg.html)

Still have to decide how high/low I will have the air tanks in relation to the fuel tank.

Well now that this is finally sorted, I can start on finishing the air tank support and then begin painting the frame and all the little bits and pieces from the rear suspension.

Next update will probably be after painting.

Prop Shaft
03-14-2016, 05:12 AM
Isnt it funny how a solution just comes to you after an exorbitant amount of time mulling over the problem? Thats why I'm such a slow builder at times. Ill find myself just sitting and staring at things for hours untill I come up with a solution I like.
Its going to be nice to see some paint on this! Were you able to source some lacquer based rattle cans locally? If you can find some along with some self etching primer you wont regret the results. Or the super fast recoat/drying times. Good luck with the painting.

Rakthi
03-14-2016, 06:45 AM
Funny is that I wrote it on here as an afterthought and then forgot about it ... Good thing I noticed or I still be thinking about it.

Found some decent RAL code paints, but they are acrylic. Will be a time consuming exercise, supposed to have about 1 - 2 days between zinc primer and final coats. Going to let it all cure properly and will try to be patient. Will do some test painting on some spare bits beforehand. Will see how it works out.

Not really looking forward to the painting, but needs to be done. Still have to decide which bits I will paint red and which ones black.

tc1cat
03-14-2016, 01:54 PM
Glad to see that you figured out the air tank placement. Funny how little things cause the biggest headaches. I just finished my latest vehicle which I will get pics of and post later this week. I am like you. I hate to paint!

Rakthi
03-14-2016, 08:45 PM
Hi Lynn ... It still kind of bugs me that if fits on one side and not the other. Was very close to throwing my hands in the air and putting in the larger tank. Well today is perfect for painting. Low humidity and no wind ... will do some samples and see how this paint works out. Lucky it is only the frame so it doesn't have to be perfect.

matze 77
03-15-2016, 03:38 AM
Hy,

it is a great Model!!!

Matze

Rakthi
03-16-2016, 09:20 AM
Hi Matze, thanks for the compliment! :)

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Sprayed the zinc primer on various left over bits from the Arocs (brass, aluminium, stainless and cast zinc pieces). Seems the be very decent stuff. After 24 hours almost scratch free and seems to stick as it should. Will spray a coat of the paint on them on Friday to see if there is a bad reaction between the different layers. So far so good.

Rakthi
03-28-2016, 04:26 AM
Have not given up on this build yet. Just that too many things need attention at the moment. Nothing really complicated but all just time consuming "deal with it now" things like getting new passport and transfer visa etc. So have spend a considerable time in planes, taxis and official offices.

As I mentioned, I painted some left over Arocs bits, and am happy with the quality of the paint. You can see where I have been scratching it with a screwdriver. Took a decent amount of pressure. It is only the stainless steel bits that will need sanding to roughen them up. Would love to bead blast them but that service not available locally.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/465_zpswv4fyzkv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/465_zpswv4fyzkv.jpg.html)

Like for the air suspension, the covers of the track rods were too tight to fit over the connectors. This time I decided to drill them out a bit. Used a 3mm bit.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/466_zpsppyngovg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/466_zpsppyngovg.jpg.html)

Then assembled them to the indicated 50mm length. Same as for the Arocs

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/467_zps56dpnie8.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/467_zps56dpnie8.jpg.html)

Then fix the connector to both A-frames.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/469_zpsos1skocl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/469_zpsos1skocl.jpg.html)

No pictures due to dead battery, but decided to use the lift blocks on the front suspension considering the intended use of the truck.

Continued a couple of days later and sanded it all a bit down. In the first picture you can see the lift blocks on the front suspension.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/471_zpsmgxtdha0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/471_zpsmgxtdha0.jpg.html)

Lots of small bits to be painted ... going to be interesting

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/470_zpseba7sqts.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/470_zpseba7sqts.jpg.html)

The hook-up at the back will be black, but the block is part of the frame, so red.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/472_zps2psihep4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/472_zps2psihep4.jpg.html)

Still thinking how I am going to paint this front piece... all red or red/white or leave black. The sump protection has to be red though. More sanding there.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/473_zpsnv2pd1am.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/473_zpsnv2pd1am.jpg.html)

This cabin support (apart from the air filter) should also be either red or black.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/474_zpsoxsmyntt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/474_zpsoxsmyntt.jpg.html)

That is where we are at now. Ready to paint but now high humidity and because no rain for 10 weeks very dusty ... not ideal. Not that big a problem since I seem to be suffering from paint block at the moment ... But we will get there. Hopefully next week all time consuming administrative issues will have been sorted, the real live cars serviced, insurance taken care off and home electrical issues fixed ...

Prop Shaft
03-28-2016, 07:12 AM
Any progress is good progress. I dont care for painting either.

Rakthi
04-01-2016, 04:19 AM
Got over my "paint bump" today and succeeded in putting primer on the frame and the suspension parts.

With the Arocs I had all bits and pieces hanging from a string, this time I choose another approach. Slower, but I feel I have more control.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/475_zpsdpadapwe.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/475_zpsdpadapwe.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/476_zpsx196qj1p.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/476_zpsx196qj1p.jpg.html)

After 30+ minutes I could turn the pieces over and paint the other sides. The little bits on the upper right side didn't need the bottom painted. They get bolted to the axles.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/477_zpsll2aytck.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/477_zpsll2aytck.jpg.html)

Now waiting for 24 - 48 hours for it to dry, then some more light sanding and the final layers can go on.

Meanwhile I can start prepping the other bits that need primer. Figured I do it in "batches" to keep parts together.

Rakthi
04-08-2016, 04:51 AM
Finally some real progress to report ...

Painting went OK and I let it all sit for a couple of days to harden out.

Did the rear pendel suspension today. Didn't take that many pictures as it is already well documented in the Arocs thread starting at page 3 post 48.
http://www.rctruckandconstruction.com/showthread.php?t=10313&page=3

Here painted bits and pieces:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/478_zps4btwhscl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/478_zps4btwhscl.jpg.html)

All bits sorted in approximate position of assembly.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/479_zpsn9unepij.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/479_zpsn9unepij.jpg.html)

First bolt the bits to the axles. Making sure to put Loctite on the screws.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/480_zpsnp8eadxr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/480_zpsnp8eadxr.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/481_zpsbdbkipan.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/481_zpsbdbkipan.jpg.html)

Next up, the attachment for the A-frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/482_zpsqkxuq2ie.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/482_zpsqkxuq2ie.jpg.html)

Here I changed the order of assembling vs the Arocs. I remembered what a pain it was to attach the A-frame to the axle with the A-frame already in the chassis. So this time I attached it to the axle before bolting it in the chassis. Way easier to do!

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/483_zpsbsdrltvm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/483_zpsbsdrltvm.jpg.html)

Adding the bits and pieces needed to attach to the chassis. Needs grease and Loctite.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/484_zpsqktddwdp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/484_zpsqktddwdp.jpg.html)

Once bolted to the chassis - making sure it still can move up and down - attached the tracking rods. Was a bit worried that the paint would make the fit difficult, but did not encounter any problems.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/485_zpssihaiuik.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/485_zpssihaiuik.jpg.html)

And last parts the actual leaf spring packet. Because I decided the truck would be "off-road" I used the lower attachment point.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/486_zpskyw9phfe.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/486_zpskyw9phfe.jpg.html)

That's it. Now waiting for the Loctite to set and then a bit of touch up on the nuts and bolts with red paint.

Prop Shaft
04-08-2016, 07:55 AM
Love it. The paint really makes the chassis detail pop!

Rakthi
04-09-2016, 12:38 AM
Hi Prop, yup you are right, the red still shows the details. If you compare the pictures to the black one from the Arocs, big difference.

Re-assemled some bits today.

The heavy duty coupling at the front bumper. Couldn't get the pin in due to the paint so had to file out the openings in the coupling. Good thing I didn't paint the bits I left black.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/487_zpsqeq2kewz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/487_zpsqeq2kewz.jpg.html)

Also re-attached the fuel tank supports. (fuel tank and straps will be black too)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/488_zpsomltlbg1.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/488_zpsomltlbg1.jpg.html)

Not much done, but time consuming because I had a "senior moment" about where I put some of the bits ...

Rakthi
04-24-2016, 04:34 AM
Got around to actually doing something on the MAN again.

Had noticed that the fuel tank supports were not lining up. By moving the left one over to the right, it is not longer really on the more narrow part of the frame. So took the spacer out and replaced it with regular nuts.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/490_zpswyivaftf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/490_zpswyivaftf.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/491_zpswcwxavui.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/491_zpswcwxavui.jpg.html)

That taken care off, time to do the bowden cables for the rear and front diff locks.

First I needed to bolt the holder for the servo that will operate the rear diff locks to the frame again.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/492_zpsjj9mwznr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/492_zpsjj9mwznr.jpg.html)

Also needed to bolt a holder for the rear cable hose to the frame. As with the Arocs, I drilled the 2mm hole out to 2.5mm to facilitate inserting the cable.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/493_zpsna9ebtfk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/493_zpsna9ebtfk.jpg.html)

The run of the cable is pretty straight forward.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/494_zpspdegibab.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/494_zpspdegibab.jpg.html)

The first rear axle still has the "old style" guide on the diff. So needed to loosen the screw so I could get the cable guide in there.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/495_zps6wkgppzo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/495_zps6wkgppzo.jpg.html)

Wasted some time by trying out a couple of variations of running this cable to see what would work best.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/496_zpsnkqwvrsu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/496_zpsnkqwvrsu.jpg.html)

Ended up with bolting the front axle back to the frame. Didn't get around to doing the bowden cable for this one. This will be a more interesting exercise since the servo goes into the fuel tank.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/497_zpsc4i4bvgo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/497_zpsc4i4bvgo.jpg.html)

Might take the cable guides back out and paint them red or black, that way they don't stand out too much.

Also been painting some other bits and pieces. Was surprised to find out that the fifth wheel is cast bronze.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/489_zpsfhzho9sy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/489_zpsfhzho9sy.jpg.html)

Rakthi
04-25-2016, 01:35 AM
So after yesterday's post, took the cable stuff of again to paint it black. Was not too happy with the way I had them running either, the bends should be much smoother so there is less stress on the servo.

Painting the cable guides black didn't work out too well as you can see on the pictures. Will need some retouching.

Since I had the cable out, I made the hole through which they go to the servo holder a bit larger.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/498_zpsnfzvxi1u.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/498_zpsnfzvxi1u.jpg.html)

I also drilled one of the holes in the frame out to 3.5mm so I can run the servo cable through it to the other side side the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/499_zpsfirdg4bt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/499_zpsfirdg4bt.jpg.html)

To run the cables a different way, I needed one more clamp to go on the frame

As you can see the clamps have no thread near the top. ScaleART provided 2.5 mm nuts to go there. Too lazy to search for them, so I just drilled out the thread in a 2mm nut instead. Same result.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/500_zpsasyedbrg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/500_zpsasyedbrg.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/501_zps94fdaudu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/501_zps94fdaudu.jpg.html)

Blue arrow is the newly installed clamp

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/503_zpsebzj2kd9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/503_zpsebzj2kd9.jpg.html)

Ran the cable for the front axle first. I also installed the rear prop shaft to make sure nothing gets tangled up.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/502_zps8vasmeu7.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/502_zps8vasmeu7.jpg.html)

Not too happy with this way either. The bowden cable gets hung up in the frame hole. And the clamp on the other side of the frame is not in the right location. So dumped that idea.

Here both installed in a way they have free movement, don't rub too much and have nice big bends.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/505_zps8rzahiw1.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/505_zps8rzahiw1.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/504_zpshhdvwlau.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/504_zpshhdvwlau.jpg.html)

In the following 2 pics you can also see the amount of movement in the prop shaft. I did put grease on the shaft, was a bit tight after painting. Also put Loctite on the grub screws holding the prop shaft to the axles.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/506_zpsmufst50i.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/506_zpsmufst50i.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/507_zpsvbka9m7h.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/507_zpsvbka9m7h.jpg.html)

I also removed the clamp I installed yesterday since I didn't need it.

So now to the front axle ... Had to install engine/gearbox/propshafts to check for interference with the cable.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/508_zps44gdyuez.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/508_zps44gdyuez.jpg.html)

Cable can run like this

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/509_zpsnpnnrwvk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/509_zpsnpnnrwvk.jpg.html)

This is where we are at now ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/510_zpstlagez9b.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/510_zpstlagez9b.jpg.html)

Seems that before I can do the servo in the fuel tank, I will have to add some more bits and pieces to the frame to know the almost exact position of the fuel tank. Also time to dig out the electronics to set the servos in "neutral" so I can start cutting the actual cables.

calum_scania
04-25-2016, 05:08 PM
Great build you've got going on, the red frame really makes everything stand out :)
I remember having to spend some time doing those cable to tamiya truck, keeping them away from moving parts and still working how they should needed a lot of patients

Calum

Rakthi
04-27-2016, 03:20 AM
Hi Calum, thanks for the complement! :)

Spend today bolting most of the stuff back to the frame so I can get this thing moving again.

Painted the inside of the front fenders black - tried to tape it off for spray painting but that wasn't really practical. So just used a brush. Not that great a finish, but being mat black, will be barely visible anyway once the truck is finished.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/511_zps7fxbqbee.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/511_zps7fxbqbee.jpg.html)

Re-assembled the painted exhaust. Was of two minds to put the speaker in there, but in the end decided against it.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/512_zpsvpqntlkz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/512_zpsvpqntlkz.jpg.html)

The board will have to go like this over the exhaust. If I do it over the fuel tank, there would be no access to the fill opening.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/513_zpshzfnvazh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/513_zpshzfnvazh.jpg.html)

Rear fender supports back on

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/514_zpsg9hj3bdg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/514_zpsg9hj3bdg.jpg.html)

Plenty of Loctite on these. Also changed the provided philips head screws with these bolts. They are smaller at top and fit without hassle between the M1.6 bolt heads where the heavy duty rear is bolted to the frame

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/515_zpsy0gx6dby.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/515_zpsy0gx6dby.jpg.html)

Moved the actual fender one bolt hole in compared to how I did it before.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/516_zpsbndr1lzk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/516_zpsbndr1lzk.jpg.html)

Rear fenders and rear lights installed.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/517_zpsx7gk4s9k.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/517_zpsx7gk4s9k.jpg.html)

Air tanks support and air tanks installed

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/518_zpsps6ihdvp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/518_zpsps6ihdvp.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/519_zpsuxa7yobh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/519_zpsuxa7yobh.jpg.html)

Mud flaps attached

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/520_zpskqprtqls.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/520_zpskqprtqls.jpg.html)

And bolts cut as close to the nut as possible

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/521_zpsklowoihd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/521_zpsklowoihd.jpg.html)

Painted all the stainless steel screw heads matt black (as per a tip from Newcomer_2) and finally got the rear wheels back on.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/522_zpsqjjcqo9q.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/522_zpsqjjcqo9q.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/523_zpsq4wr3pze.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/523_zpsq4wr3pze.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/524_zpsvags6rxl.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/524_zpsvags6rxl.jpg.html)

And bolted a short M2 screw in the opening of the front differential to prevent muck from entering.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/525_zpsmuvb3i7s.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/525_zpsmuvb3i7s.jpg.html)

Next up the fifth wheel, cabin attachments front and back, motor/gearbox and then finally the servo for the front differential.

Prop Shaft
04-27-2016, 07:30 AM
Such a detailed rig. Loving watching this come together.

Rakthi
04-29-2016, 04:56 AM
Hi Prop, detailed it is. And slowly getting back together too.

So yesterday I re-attached the rear cab support which has to be at 90°.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/527_zpsr6r70paq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/527_zpsr6r70paq.jpg.html)

Then got the servo for the fifth wheel in it's neutral setting.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/528_zpsnhf91cd4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/528_zpsnhf91cd4.jpg.html)

Re-assembled the fifth wheel and bolted it in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/529_zpscaqahwli.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/529_zpscaqahwli.jpg.html)

After that I re-installed the engine/gearbox and propshafts, and today I finally did the servo that goes into the fuel tank.

The servo holder that goes into the tank is actually for 2 servos and the bigger tank, so will need to shorten it a bit. On the bottom right you can see that the holder has a "foot" - I was a bit worried that I would have to sort something out about that to keep things stable, but it all worked out in the end.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/530_zpslvov4ynv.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/530_zpslvov4ynv.jpg.html)

Bolted the servo onto the holder and inserted it into the fuel tank. Very very tight fit. The Hitec servos are just a bit thicker than the Robbe ones ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/531_zpsc6lzg395.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/531_zpsc6lzg395.jpg.html)

View from the other side ... pressed a bit too hard and slightly bend the servo holder. No big deal, easy to straighten out again.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/532_zpsuqb7yext.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/532_zpsuqb7yext.jpg.html)

Realised that I better install the filler cap first because I had to drill out the hole to 5mm to fit the cap. Would have been awkward with servo etc in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/533_zpselmzdppy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/533_zpselmzdppy.jpg.html)

Filler cap glued in place with super glue

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/534_zpsh9tqnp4d.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/534_zpsh9tqnp4d.jpg.html)

Servo centered etc etc

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/535_zpsp2ctaiqh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/535_zpsp2ctaiqh.jpg.html)

The servo was a bit wobbly because of the 2 pieces of shoulder on the housing. Decided to file them off so the servo would be more stable.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/536_zpsmymolax7.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/536_zpsmymolax7.jpg.html)

Servo horn drilled to 2mm to take the cable clamp

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/537_zpsr2fix6ep.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/537_zpsr2fix6ep.jpg.html)

Continued ...

Rakthi
04-29-2016, 05:10 AM
The cable clamp installed and testing fit in the tank ... the servo horn hits the edges, so will have to do something to get the servo further back

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/538_zpsljtdj3i9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/538_zpsljtdj3i9.jpg.html)

3 M3 washers on each side solve the spacing problem, but now the thread from the cable clamp is hitting the edge.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/539_zpst6mjhfkt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/539_zpst6mjhfkt.jpg.html)

So this gets cut off, the outside cable tube is attached so I can define the exact length I will need before I insert the steel cable.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/540_zpsnwsy2sox.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/540_zpsnwsy2sox.jpg.html)

The servo in place, and the cable and servo wire pulled through the 4.5mm hole I had drilled in the back of the fuel tank. (The cable has been pulled through that hole so many times all the black paint got rubbed off ...)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/541_zps0saee05d.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/541_zps0saee05d.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/542_zpsaptg4w56.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/542_zpsaptg4w56.jpg.html)

After this final fitting and cutting the cable hose to size, the steel cable installed, everything back in the tank, the sides clipped on and the tank attached to the frame. Forgot to take pictures from the bottom, but will do when I attach the cable to the front diff lock and adjust the servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/543_zpsnq2x4q6e.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/543_zpsnq2x4q6e.jpg.html)

Set the cab in place to get an idea what it will end up looking

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/544_zpsaart6aen.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/544_zpsaart6aen.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/545_zps9rvw6brp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/545_zps9rvw6brp.jpg.html)

Next up will be the servo block that goes in front of the motor/gearbox, and then have to get out the receiver etc. so I can adjust all the servos.

Rakthi
04-30-2016, 03:43 AM
The missing picture of the cable going to the front differential.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/547_zpsua4t0v9m.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/547_zpsua4t0v9m.jpg.html)

The servo block installed in front. Not the easiest of installs - a bit difficult to line the holes up, but with some patience it all comes together without too many problems.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/546_zpsqggc7xqa.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/546_zpsqggc7xqa.jpg.html)

Next up the bowden cable from the center differential.
Not the most accessible place and should have checked for fit before installing the motor/gearbox unit. Had to clear some paint from the opening, not so easy with unit in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/548_zpskr0ra9ul.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/548_zpskr0ra9ul.jpg.html)

The cable loops from the right side to the left side, goes behind the crossbrace and loops back towards the front on the right side to end up at the servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/557_zps9tnmdu0u.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/557_zps9tnmdu0u.jpg.html)

The cable clamp at the servo is not accessible. The front axle blocks it.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/550_zpslrj04rpa.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/550_zpslrj04rpa.jpg.html)

Solution, undo the clamp, run cable through it and tighten the grub screw

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/551_zpsgd5ouqzo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/551_zpsgd5ouqzo.jpg.html)

Then you can run the teflon tube through it, followed by the steel pull cable.

Here installed, together with the front steering rod.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/552_zps5gtxptbj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/552_zps5gtxptbj.jpg.html)

The gearbox linkage next. This gets installed with gearbox in 2nd gear (indicated with a mark on the rod that comes out of the gearbox)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/553_zps7xgxhfoj.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/553_zps7xgxhfoj.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/554_zps4inaetbh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/554_zps4inaetbh.jpg.html)

Last are the pull cable for the 2 rear axles. Because I was first planning an air suspension, I cut off the cable clamps and drilled a hole next to it. I should have ordered new bits from ScaleART for this, but didn't think about it. Oh well. So I just installed as I would have had to do for the air suspension.

I ran the cable in a loop (fine tweezers sure are handy here)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/555_zpscebr3zgn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/555_zpscebr3zgn.jpg.html)

Tighten the loop and slide the provided sleeve in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/556_zpsd6rxfl4a.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/556_zpsd6rxfl4a.jpg.html)

As added security, I also put a good amount of superglue on the cables before taking pliers to the sleeve.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/558_zpsovoyanip.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/558_zpsovoyanip.jpg.html)

Cables tensioned at the servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/559_zpscqbp7whs.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/559_zpscqbp7whs.jpg.html)

Tp_hofmann
05-06-2016, 03:12 AM
The color schema is really nice - looking forward to see the truck and its trailer completed

Rakthi
05-09-2016, 05:15 AM
Hi Tom, thanks for the compliment on the colours. And I better hope I still have enough of the red left for the trailer! Just found out the supplier no longer delivers the stuff :( Is what you get for going to live out here I guess ...

As for when it all will be ready??? Well today I finally got around to setting up the receiver and syncing it to the sender ... because I figured I didn't need to check the manual, I succeeded in completely erasing the data from the Arocs (and probably the Fumotec too) ... So stupid.

Well at least I got the new receiver sorted out (kind off)

Here some pics (at least I have to show something for the "disaster") :rolleyes:

Hooked up the battery to the board and got a nice "zap" when I touched the contacts ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/560_zpsv3zbrlxx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/560_zpsv3zbrlxx.jpg.html)

So some electrical tape was on order

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/561_zps4u8agrry.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/561_zps4u8agrry.jpg.html)

After the Arocs build I got me a decent crimper for the wires on eBay. So much easier to work with and less chance of short circuits because of stray bits of wire touching one another.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/562_zpsqzpgqu5p.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/562_zpsqzpgqu5p.jpg.html)

The set up for syncing the receiver and the transmitter.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/563_zpsm5dwsior.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/563_zpsm5dwsior.jpg.html)

In the interval between above and below picture I really succeeded in messing up the programming from the AROCS so I didn't get around to the fine tuning of the servos used in the truck.

At least I have some pictures that show how to sync the receiver and transmitter.

First you search for a new model

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/564_zpsby4zejig.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/564_zpsby4zejig.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/565_zpsvieagfsm.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/565_zpsvieagfsm.jpg.html)

Once a model is discovered you assign it a memory location and start setting it up, starting with a name

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/568_zpsdn1nzu1a.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/568_zpsdn1nzu1a.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/567_zpstmtdjfav.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/567_zpstmtdjfav.jpg.html)

You can also add a password if you like.

I then selected one of the pre-made configuration that are already programmed into the transmitter. This gives a good base to start from. The connection is then established.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/566_zpss1nxmbxa.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/566_zpss1nxmbxa.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/569_zpsja6u1kok.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/569_zpsja6u1kok.jpg.html)

Next up will be plugging in the servos in the right slots and fine tune the limits and dead points.

Rakthi
05-14-2016, 06:35 AM
So, plugged in all the servos to check where they go. Switched on receiver and sender, and did a quick check of all the functions.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/570_zpsjrjby9nc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/570_zpsjrjby9nc.jpg.html)

Then unplugged them all to be able to check them one by one and adjust the settings.

Started with the centre diff lock. As you can see the servo swings too wide which puts too much stress on it.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/571_zpsw1s4lbmc.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/571_zpsw1s4lbmc.jpg.html)

For this we have to go in the programming of the sender for that servo.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/572_zpsgcdhrch1.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/572_zpsgcdhrch1.jpg.html)

Press the OK button to enter menu for that Servo

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/573_zpshgmbrqfo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/573_zpshgmbrqfo.jpg.html)

Scroll down until we find the servo adjustments

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/574_zpsb036lpuh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/574_zpsb036lpuh.jpg.html)

Press OK and enter the settings

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/575_zpse5upipfs.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/575_zpse5upipfs.jpg.html)

That done, on to the rear differential which needed the servo reversed since activating the rear diff lock released all tension on the cable

Same thing, enter menu, scroll down to find the adjustment and make the change (the pre loaded program is not 100% right)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/576_zpsvg9ibwno.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/576_zpsvg9ibwno.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/577_zpshbcbivxi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/577_zpshbcbivxi.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/578_zpsxvcn628n.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/578_zpsxvcn628n.jpg.html)

After this, on to adjusting the swing of the servo, but after a couple of adjustment the servo stopped responding ... so one dead servo ... not too happy about that.

Then more misery, the front diff lock servo (yup the one the fuel tank) pulled the same stunt ... so that one dead as a dodo too ...

Have one spare one (from the Arocs trailer coupling I didn't use) and ordered 2 replacements - just in case.

Opened up the servo from the rear diff and but can't see anything burned. Guess just bad luck. Neither servo been under stress either (not like the one I burned out in the Arocs)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/579_zpsajg4b9lq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/579_zpsajg4b9lq.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/580_zpssupdkgle.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/580_zpssupdkgle.jpg.html)

Well that throws a wrench in the works ... have to wait at least 2 - 3 weeks for those 2 servos to make it here ... Not too happy at the moment.

Tp_hofmann
05-14-2016, 04:35 PM
We had several "hitec" servos dying :/

Surprisingly this happened despite setting max load parameters with the hitec programmic tool. In my arocs the hitec sayed good bye to the world with smoke & smell :/

Br,
Thomas

Ps: isnt there an english onscreen menu available on commander as well?

Rakthi
05-14-2016, 08:08 PM
Hi Thomas, indeed there is an English menu, but I got one of the first ones out of the company - it even came without manual. I have the English software (you can download it from their website) but haven't got around to installing it in the transmitter. Well, since I am Flemish, the German isn't that big a problem (can read and speak German, but have hard time writing it), and it keeps the curious here from messing with it. :)

The Hitec servos wouldn't be such a big deal if I was in a place where you can go to a hobby shop and buy them, here nobody has them in stock, so have to order them, which takes time. One company in Kuala Lumpur has stock, but they want US$47.90 + shipping - a bit excessive if you ask me. Cheaper to get them from USA or EU and wait a bit.

Well not looking forward to redo the one in the fuel tank though. Glad I didn't follow the manual and had both of them in the larger tank.

Prop Shaft
05-15-2016, 12:48 PM
Sorry to hear about your servo woes. Ive had alot of issues with the mini and micro size servos also. Out of the 4 hitec micros i ordered one was doa, and just recently a futaba mini I was using as a shift servo on my Disco went up in smoke. Literally. I need to order 7 servos for the new Tatra and have decided to go with Savox. I hear nothing but good things regarding them. Maybe worth a look.

Rakthi
05-15-2016, 11:03 PM
Thought about Savoy, have those in the CAPO truck. Played with the idea to get one out of there, but too much work taking the thing apart. Also not sure about the fit and a tad too lazy to check the sizes. Will see how it works out.

Maybe I should just have gone for the non-digital ones. Might order some of those next time. Less to go wrong.

Meanwhile I will adjust the rest of the servos and plug the spare I have in the fuel tank. Start pulling the electrics towards the front etc. That will keep me busy for a bit.

Rakthi
05-18-2016, 12:25 AM
Well got the fuel tank off and the servo out. Checked servo, same as the other one. I connected the electric motor of the servo directly to a 5 volt battery, and no go, so seems like the little motor died and not the electronics. So much for the trouble shooting I could do here.

Had a really hard time getting the side covers of the fuel tank. Good thing I didn't glue them as suggested in the manual!

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/581_zpshy774yd7.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/581_zpshy774yd7.jpg.html)

Stuck the spare servo in there, and hooked it all up to the receiver and then switched diff lock on and off a couple of times. This servo seems to be behaving. (Actually should have used receiver/transmitter the first time too.)

Diff unlocked

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/582_zpsly7ldztn.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/582_zpsly7ldztn.jpg.html)

Locked

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/583_zpsqu1dr0vi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/583_zpsqu1dr0vi.jpg.html)

Stuck it all in the fuel tank and then locked/unlocked about 40 - 50 times ...

Very tight fit though.

Unlocked

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/584_zpsj8zgquyt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/584_zpsj8zgquyt.jpg.html)

Locked - The nut of the cable holder is almost touching the sides. Thinking of adding 4 or even 5 washers instead of 3, but will have to file some of the ridge to make sure the servo fits then.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/585_zpsknilqxgq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/585_zpsknilqxgq.jpg.html)

I dinged the tank taking it out, so will need a bit of sanding and painting again ...

liftmys10
05-18-2016, 11:57 PM
Tight indeed. I would never have thought that a servo was in there. Very neat place to hide ithe. Thanks for sharing the photos!

Rakthi
05-20-2016, 06:41 AM
Hi Liftmys10, If we could still get the FS 70 MG servos from Robbe it would be a bit easier. Those are about 1mm less wide and 2 mm less high. But sadly enough Robbe had to close the books and the Hitec ones are closest in size for the same torque.

Well nothing a couple of washers and a bit of filing can't take care off.

And filing is the only thing I got around to doing today.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/586_zpsm8xtsgu3.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/586_zpsm8xtsgu3.jpg.html)

Taking that ridge out should make it possible to get the servo a tad more to the back so there is more than a hair's width of space left when the diff is locked. Bit worried that over time the plastic servo horn will start bending a little under the tension and hit the sides causing more stress on the servo.

Rakthi
05-21-2016, 01:33 AM
Filing the ridge worked.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/587_zpsdjrhnfvp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/587_zpsdjrhnfvp.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/588_zpssrwf4ygr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/588_zpssrwf4ygr.jpg.html)

Before clipping the sides back onto the fuel tank, did a quick test set up to finalise the servo settings.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/589_zpspfkkdwwx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/589_zpspfkkdwwx.jpg.html)

Sides clipped on again and re-installed in position.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/590_zpsvtgmev5f.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/590_zpsvtgmev5f.jpg.html)

Final test

Diff unlocked

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/591_zpsviodmbwx.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/591_zpsviodmbwx.jpg.html)

Locked

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/592_zps665mb7x9.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/592_zps665mb7x9.jpg.html)

Reattached the little clip I made to push the bowden cable forward to better clear the front propshaft.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/593_zpsg162cwvr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/593_zpsg162cwvr.jpg.html)

Rakthi
06-12-2016, 04:42 AM
Been a while with an update ...partly because I've been without computer for 10 days but mostly because lack of time.

So after a 2 week wait the new servo for the rear diffs arrived. I filed off one of the attachment points and installed it. Hooked up the cables and found out out the servo isn't strong enough to lock both diffs and I ended up frying the servo. Totally my (stupid) error that.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/594_zpscfmtbgbt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/594_zpscfmtbgbt.jpg.html)

So ordered new servos again and decided that I would either only be able to lock one rear axle or I have to get one servo for each axle ...

Took a good look at the frame and figured that just possibly I could manage to tuck the extra servo reasonably unobtrusive in the frame.

In the servo kit from an 6x6 or 8x8 kipper I ordered extra, there was also this part:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/595_zps8qwgmzh0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/595_zps8qwgmzh0.jpg.html)

Which (with a bit of filing and cutting) would just be able to fit in this area next to the transfer case.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/596_zpsrjgif3ts.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/596_zpsrjgif3ts.jpg.html)

To be able to attach it, some holes in the frame would need to be enlarged to fit M2 screws. This turned out to be more complicated than it sounds because I couldn't remove that one screw of the four that hold on the exhaust ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/598_zpslsrvxsbb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/598_zpslsrvxsbb.jpg.html)

Thanks to Dremel, flexible attachments, strong language and a repaint of the fuel tank ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/597_zpscppab8ah.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/597_zpscppab8ah.jpg.html)

The primer in the above pic looks bad because it started raining just after I painted it and in the rush to get it inside I dropped the piece.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/599_zpsurovqmay.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/599_zpsurovqmay.jpg.html)

So after sanding, a new coat of primer and the final coats of red, I installed it.
Mounted one of the non-operational servos to see how it would look. (This servo would lock the 2nd rear axle)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/600_zpsa3gjhy53.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/600_zpsa3gjhy53.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/604_zps3ejzsnbs.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/604_zps3ejzsnbs.jpg.html)

Will need to make a red cover for the servo, but that should be something that isn't too difficult (we hope)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/601_zpstlm8m9no.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/601_zpstlm8m9no.jpg.html)

Also might have to do something about the run of the bowden cable of the first rear axle as they cross one another

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/603_zpscajjhhre.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/603_zpscajjhhre.jpg.html)

So now we have to wait for the replacement servos to arrive. After a lot of searching, I also succeeded in locating a couple of the Robbe FS 70 MG servos that ScaleART used to supply. Will see if those are less temperamental.

I could go ahead and start the electronics compartment, but I rather wait until I have the servos so I can get the wires to run cleanly to the front. Something that will become less easy with the electronics compartment installed.

So we wait again ...

Hofabooz
06-13-2016, 10:09 AM
Hi

Great build and thanks for documenting it in such detail.
Shame about the server problems but these things are set to try us as they say.

Looking for forwards to your next update.

Regards

Mark

Rakthi
06-26-2016, 02:27 AM
Hi Hofabooz, those servos wouldn't be such a big problem if I could just pop out to the nearest shop and get some extras ... now there is this long wait between ordering and receiving them, causing the loss of my momentum. On top of that I then start other non-rc related projects making it even harder to get back on track.

Well the good news is the servos arrived, both the Hitec and the Robbe ones I found after checking what seems 100 on-line shops ... There are still some out there, gathering dust on shelves.

Not much difference in size between the Hitec and the Robbe, but that little bit sure helps.
Tried the Robbe servo in the longer fuel tank, and it fitted without the need for filing ... perfect fit. Too bad they went out of business. Another nice thing about their servos was the little plastic clips you could use to fix the servo in place instead of the rubber ones (also included)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/uYAbZ_zpsnyp7c2fk.jpeg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/uYAbZ_zpsnyp7c2fk.jpeg.html)

Here some pictures for comparison

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/RIXNy_zps0anfnmsa.jpeg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/RIXNy_zps0anfnmsa.jpeg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/zUEvT_zpsp1w8nidf.jpeg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/zUEvT_zpsp1w8nidf.jpeg.html)

Here installed in the carrier. A perfect fit. (Took me the best part of an hour to locate the little bar to hold it in the front).

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/W6bZg_zpss2wvvsbu.jpeg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/W6bZg_zpss2wvvsbu.jpeg.html)

That's it for this short update. Now setting up these 2 servos and figuring out to put them on a mixer. Running the electrics to the front, shortening/lengthening wires etc. (all jobs I don't really like). Just have to get my head set for it.

Rakthi
07-01-2016, 06:26 AM
Did the 2 servos today. Decided to go for the Robbe for the first rear axle and a Hitec for the 2nd rear axle. Will keep the extra Robbe ones I got for a next project that would need servos in tight spaces.

To install these, you need to set the servo to the locked diff position, and then pull the cable up (helps if you push the lever at the back up).

So servo horn in the lock position and cable inserted

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/609_zpsruv1lpjd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/609_zpsruv1lpjd.jpg.html)

Pulled cable till diff is locked (picture got messed up a bit by the flash)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/610_zpsg4bsdd7u.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/610_zpsg4bsdd7u.jpg.html)

Tension cable and tighten the worm screw holding it in place.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/611_zpscfjtuwpz.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/611_zpscfjtuwpz.jpg.html)

I ran the wire through the hole I had drilled in the frame (I also made sure the hole was in the 2nd servo holder I altered). Added a bit of black heat shrink on the outside of the frame

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/612_zpsiv7zvkha.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/612_zpsiv7zvkha.jpg.html)

and red heat shrink on the inside

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/613_zpsu9ngbfi4.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/613_zpsu9ngbfi4.jpg.html)

Next up the Hitec servo - picture in diff locked position (note the difference in servo horns! The Robbe one is way bulkier than the Hitec)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/614_zps286vir04.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/614_zps286vir04.jpg.html)

And other side (will need to come back out to touch up paint on some screws but at least I know it works/fits)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/616_zpsq3gk9eav.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/616_zpsq3gk9eav.jpg.html)

For now I put the 2nd servo on channel 4 that was supposed to operate the rear coupling I didn't install.

After touching up the red paint inside of the frame, pull 2nd servo cable to the front and fabricate a cover.

Had a look at the rear lights and how to run the wires there ... My first plan was to run the wires attached with a bit of heat shrink to the fender support, but I had forgotten to do this when I installed the fender. So fender would have to come off again. Still would look a tad "messy" ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/615_zpsc2tseyyh.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/615_zpsc2tseyyh.jpg.html)

Since I would have to partly disassemble the rear fenders, another alternative (and more work) would be to drill hole in the fender where the rear light attaches, run the wire on the inside to the centre support and from there through another hole (widening one of the existing ones from 2 mm to ±3 mm) inside the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/617_zpsxx9ic4cd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/617_zpsxx9ic4cd.jpg.html)

Well, the wife had told me to get my money's worth out of this model and take my time finishing it ...

Rakthi
07-02-2016, 05:26 AM
Redoing the rear lights was not as big a job as I thought. Took longer to take fenders off. Came down to a simple bit of grinding and drilling two holes.

So here a trial fit after doing one fender. (the paint did suffer from unbolting all the bits, so after taking these pics I stripped the paint off and repainted - as you can see, sanding did not work well on diamond plate)

The light is at an angle because the screws are not tightened yet.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/618_zpsjmrtfuar.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/618_zpsjmrtfuar.jpg.html)

Can barely see where the wire runs through the fender.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/619_zpsnnykmcku.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/619_zpsnnykmcku.jpg.html)

Back side before cleaning up and filing of the sharp edges.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/620_zpsn5uv4pg1.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/620_zpsn5uv4pg1.jpg.html)

Will not have to drill a bigger hole in the frame. The wires fit through the existing 2mm holes.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/621_zpslqu1y6gd.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/621_zpslqu1y6gd.jpg.html)

Wire can run along the middle support of the fender and then go behind it

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/623_zps9vpdqvra.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/623_zps9vpdqvra.jpg.html)

To come out on the side and disappear in the frame.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/622_zpsqyrb4e7x.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/622_zpsqyrb4e7x.jpg.html)

Now waiting for the new paint on the fenders to dry before reassembling the lot and running the rear light wires to the front.

Rakthi
07-04-2016, 05:06 AM
Re-installed the right rear fender today. (Expected to do both, but more time consuming/fiddly than I thought)

First attach the centre support. Had to be very careful not to scratch the paint

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/625_zpss9qyfdns.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/625_zpss9qyfdns.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/626_zps5ilh6iwt.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/626_zps5ilh6iwt.jpg.html)

Put the extra mud flaps I had to use by giving fender one on each side. This time I took care not to tighten the nuts too much to prevent warping the rubber.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/627_zpsrmgyl1wf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/627_zpsrmgyl1wf.jpg.html)

After this, install the light and then loosely attach the clamps holding the fender to the front and rear support. Then carefully slide the fender in place. There is just enough space to tighten the screws without having to remove the wheels.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/628_zpsww3ekxgi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/628_zpsww3ekxgi.jpg.html)

Didn't run the wire for the light as I planned. It just runs on the inside of the fender, goes through the centre support. Near the frame I made a little clamp of copper wire to hold the cable in place. Wire still needs to be attached to the fender and centre support with some hot glue or double sided tape. Haven't made up my mind yet. Once finished, a bit of red paint on the wire and it will be barely noticeable.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/629_zps1blvr5wr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/629_zps1blvr5wr.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/630_zpscveq8gci.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/630_zpscveq8gci.jpg.html)

One done, the other one in a couple of days ...

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/631_zps3zn31bmi.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/631_zps3zn31bmi.jpg.html)

liftmys10
07-04-2016, 10:55 AM
So much detail! It's rare to see close up photos like this.

Rimrock
07-05-2016, 03:07 PM
Admire your patience..There must be thousands of screws) Fine to see the up- close pictures)

Rakthi
07-06-2016, 03:27 AM
@liftmys10 & Rimrock ... The detail on the parts is what makes it worth while to take the close up pictures. As for the amount of screws ... it's like an addiction really ... just trying to pace myself a bit. (Keep in mind that I've been at this one for close to 9 months already with all the interruptions and waiting time.)
I kind of bungled this assembly in comparison to the Arocs I did before, where I strictly followed the instructions.

=================================

Did the 2nd rear fender today.

This picture just to show that this time they provide plenty of wire to the rear lights compared to the ones I got with the Arocs.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/632_zps7y3i2z8m.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/632_zps7y3i2z8m.jpg.html)

Tried out something to hold the wire to the rear fender. A left over from Land Rover Defender ownership (needed to stop the leaks and rattles)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/633_zpsbt2hmdm7.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/633_zpsbt2hmdm7.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/634_zpsgyarrbdp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/634_zpsgyarrbdp.jpg.html)

Fender ready to be attached

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/635_zpseoq3poru.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/635_zpseoq3poru.jpg.html)

Clamps loosely attached to allow them to slide over the supports

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/636_zpslqten72m.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/636_zpslqten72m.jpg.html)

All went smooth until one of the screw that the centre support screws onto unscrewed itself when I tried to fasten the nut (too much paint stuck in the threads) ... What happens if you forget to use Loctite. Was a bit of a problem to sort out but thanks to a flexible driver got it back into shape.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/637_zps3yt4gzwq.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/637_zps3yt4gzwq.jpg.html)

Forgot to shorten the bolts for the 2nd mudflap ... so wheel had to come off.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/639_zps7fb7npw0.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/639_zps7fb7npw0.jpg.html)

Put some heat shrink on the wire from the rear light and routed it.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/638_zpsxw56hkka.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/638_zpsxw56hkka.jpg.html)

Not too pleased with the way the wires run. Will have to rethink this one.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/640_zpseai7cj2r.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/640_zpseai7cj2r.jpg.html)

Also have to find a good way to attach the Infra Red led for communication with the trailer. Was thinking of putting in one of those openings in the rear cross member but have to figure out a way so it doesn't stick out so far.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/643_zpssxqqshtg.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/643_zpssxqqshtg.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/642_zpsl63gcz9h.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/642_zpsl63gcz9h.jpg.html)

Rakthi
07-08-2016, 02:39 AM
Found a bit of time today, so a short update.

Been messing with the IR wire/led.

Stuffed wire in some red heat shrink and found a little rubber O-ring in the box of spare plumbing stuff. The O-ring is just the right size for the led.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/644_zpsbusy4pfr.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/644_zpsbusy4pfr.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/645_zpsaotyvajk.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/645_zpsaotyvajk.jpg.html)

I can glue the o-ring to the inside rear cross member and it will hold the IR LED securely. Haven't glued it in yet. First have to figure out where the receiver mounts on the trailer. Might have to move position closer to the fifth wheel

Got a temp solution for running the wire, but not too pleased as of yet. Would like to combine it with the rear lights and the fifth wheel servo, but haven't got red tubing of that size ... Maybe run one tube on each side would work better.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/646_zpshb9ruv8p.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/646_zpshb9ruv8p.jpg.html)

Will have to run the wire through the mid cross member and hope it fits and doesn't interfere with the bowden cables from the differential and transmission already there.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/647_zpss5odmuzb.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/647_zpss5odmuzb.jpg.html)

Doggy
07-08-2016, 04:29 AM
You cant put enough photos in this thread! This is great to look at, and best place to get ideas for a build. Thank you!

buff69
07-08-2016, 12:59 PM
Excellent first class

Rakthi
10-05-2016, 10:29 PM
Hi folks, my wife had a "life altering" medical problem. Lucky for her (and me of course) things worked out. However there is no guarantee she will not go through the same again. Since we live on an island with limited medical provisions, we have decided to move back to Europe.

At the moment we are busy trying to untangle ourselves here and sort out our move back. Especially the move of our 3 felines is a major head ache, even when using a professional service.

Once in Europe and back on our feet this thread will be continued.

So if all goes well you can expect updates in February 2017 (fingers crossed the container makes it as scheduled)

Thanks all for your patience.

Stephan

Bo Wallen
10-05-2016, 10:46 PM
Best wishes and good luck with everything. It's going to be alright.
Bo

Cossett
10-05-2016, 11:18 PM
Hope it goes well with the wife and the trucks always come second to ones health....

Cheers Tracy

Rakthi
12-22-2016, 07:54 AM
So the trucks left our home yesterday ... they are in the white boxes liberally plastered with fragile stickers and well padded inside with foam and bubble wrap.

Might be 6 - 8 weeks before I see them again and continue this build thread - will have to buy a table to work on first too.

We are following our boxes 20 days from now ... These international moves sure take a lot out of one.

Our 3 cats are still unaware of the long trip back to Belgium that is in store for them.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/IMG_3462_zps4rmgps66.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/IMG_3462_zps4rmgps66.jpg.html)

TRUCKMAKER
12-22-2016, 12:20 PM
Good luck to you and your wife, and take good care of those kitties!

Rakthi
12-22-2016, 07:05 PM
Thanks Truckmaker!

Our 3 felines will do the trip with a company that specialises in pet moving. They will have to go to Kuala Lumpur for 10 days to have some blood test done to get the necessary export / import papers to enter Europe. We will stay in a hotel near where they will be boarded so we can visit them every day.

Here a pic of them from a year ago .. our 2 Abyssinian brothers Billy and Percy and Rakthi, the Egyptian Mau


http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/IMG_1432_zpskljavjsw.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/IMG_1432_zpskljavjsw.jpg.html)

Cossett
12-22-2016, 11:36 PM
Good luck with the move, missing your upades on your builds that are great reading...........

Cheer Tracy

Rakthi
12-23-2016, 12:28 AM
Thanks Tracy

The move will be fine - I hope - the worst is over, the packing and sorting what to take and what to give away ... Once reasonably settled in, the build will continue :-) ... being closer to ScaleART will be nice too. Planning to go pay a visit to them too.

Lil Giants
12-23-2016, 05:19 AM
Gee whiz :eek: how much of a temp change is it gonna be to move back north of the equator again? :(

Rakthi
12-23-2016, 05:48 PM
From average 90% humidity and 32°C to low humidity and (if we ar lucky) ±5°C average in Januari - supposed to be a mild winter in Belgium ... First thing on the agenda is buying some warm clothing!

Already informed the family to crank up the heat in the house we rented before we arrive.

Actually will be glad to be able to go outside without getting drenched in sweat just checking the mailbox 15 meters from the door.

Reason we are moving in Januari is to avoid the dry season ... Last year it didn't rain for 3 months, was beastly hot and on top of that due to water shortage we didn't get water for 2 weeks. Should have figured that ... living high up on a ridge - last house on the water main - not enough water pressure to make it up the hill since the houses/hotels below us are using it for their garden ...

Newcomer_2
12-26-2017, 07:16 AM
Hi Stephan,

how are you? - I hope you're fine! - What's about your journey? - And what's about your truck?

Rakthi
01-13-2018, 08:47 AM
Hi Christian,

The whole move went reasonably well. First months been very busy with painting this house, finding/buying furniture, sorting out the garden so the cats could go outside and not to forget the hassle getting sorting out all the legal paperwork involved with healthcare, insurance, registration etc.

Only got around to unboxing the trucks a couple of months ago. But have lost my momentum for the moment to continue working on them. The 6x6 survived the trip very well, the 8x8 suffered some minor mishap and will need a new front fender under the cabin. I also succeeded in burning the gear shift servo due to accidentally erasing both Commander and CM-5000 unit in the truck. (don't ask)

Also in my stupidity I left behind more tools than I thought. Still replacing that stuff.

So eventually this thread will be continued. :-)

TRUCKMAKER
01-13-2018, 09:49 AM
Hi Stephan, glad to hear the family made the move safely. The trucks can always be repaired. Are the cats settling in? Hope to see you back it soon.

Newcomer_2
01-14-2018, 12:06 PM
Hi Stephan,

sounds good. Nice that you arrived well in Europe. Welcome!

You will surely find motivation again soon and finish your models. And now you have a big advantage: ScaleART is much closer and you can easily get spare parts. ;-)

All the best! - I am looking forward to the continuation of your report.

Tp_hofmann
01-15-2018, 01:35 PM
Delighted to read that the relocation went smooth. Looking forward to updates on your builts.

And as christian said: shipping times for special parts are much better now :)

Rakthi
01-26-2018, 01:33 PM
Hi Truckmaker, the cats were pleased as can be when the finally made it here, the poor critters had a rough time of it. Took them a while to get used to the colder weather though, but by now they have settled in.

For the rest, I got the photo bucket account sorted out and decided to go for their $99.99/year thing, it beats redoing all the work and after a few problems it seems all the pictures are back available again. I think I better start reading my own thread to figure out what I've done to this truck so far. Didn't label stuff when I packed and will take me a while to sort it all out again.

The real pain is that the next step is the electronics, not really my cup of tea.

Not having to wait 3-4 weeks for parts will indeed be nice (and dangerous for my bank account)

Lil Giants
01-26-2018, 03:15 PM
Good to see you back on the forum Stephan & continuing with your detailed builds :cool:

Roundabout
02-05-2018, 06:19 AM
What a great and detailed build thread, gonna be a awesome truck BIG THUMBS UP!!

Rakthi
03-21-2018, 10:40 AM
So slowly getting back up and running on the truck, and just spend about one hour scratching my head and trying to remember where I had put all the bits and pieces. Not the best packing / unpacking if I say so myself. But then been over a year since all the parts got put back in the box.

So here some pictures of where we are at at the moment and now I have to retrace my steps to see how it all goes back together.

Figured I would put the front fender back on, but mind blanked out ... :eek:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/648_zpsib6xpjg8.jpg

and then all those wires I didn't label (stupid me) :confused:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/649_zpszf7w1yxn.jpg

at least I had the foresight to keep little parts together

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/650_zpso9jvojrf.jpg

And after not have looked at the "how to" instructions it all looks rather confusing :rolleyes:

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/651_zps5hzg7x3g.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/651_zps5hzg7x3g.jpg.html)

I just have to get my head back into it ...

At least I remembered how to post pictures

Newcomer_2
03-21-2018, 11:18 AM
Hello Stephan,

it goes on! - That's great! - I think it's like swimming. You will not unlearn it!

Panther F
03-21-2018, 11:22 AM
Very meticulous, detailed images. Looks just like a museum piece.

Tp_hofmann
03-25-2018, 07:40 AM
Finally the build continues, cant wait to see the updates coming!

Cheers,
Thomas

frizzen
03-27-2018, 06:10 AM
Wow that's coming together as an epic machine.

Rakthi
03-27-2018, 12:42 PM
Hi Christian, might be like swimming, but getting back into this after 1.5 years is a bit daunting to say the least. Also getting to the point where the electronics come into play ... not my favourite part.

Wel Thomas this project has been sitting around and every time I pass the boxes I get a twinge of guilt ;) and to think I still have that whole trailer to build. At this rate this will be a 5-year plan. :)

@Panther F, I like seeing pictures, so I presume other people like it too ... wouldn't call it a museum piece though, just a very well thought out kit.

@frizzen, as mentioned above, might take a while before this is finished ...

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Well guys, seems like every time I want to continue this something needs to be done first.

Today I succeeded in putting the bumper back on the truck.

First the bash plate. (Found the red nuts later and replaced the black ones)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/652_zps8hgjucwy.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/652_zps8hgjucwy.jpg.html)

Followed by the locking mechanism for the cabin

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/653_zpsf3cdn7zp.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/653_zpsf3cdn7zp.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/654_zpsqaaiey8x.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/654_zpsqaaiey8x.jpg.html)

Next the hardware to attach the bumper to the frame. (the springs are for the locking mechanism of the cab)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/655_zpsvw9fklqf.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/655_zpsvw9fklqf.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/656_zpswa3gtnex.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/656_zpswa3gtnex.jpg.html)

The bumper slides on the screws. Need to squeeze the support a bit, it's a tight fit

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/657_zpsbymfldar.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/657_zpsbymfldar.jpg.html)

Put the nuts on the mounting points and attached the connecting bar from the heavy coupling. Did not tighten the nuts yet because I will have to fiddle around with the placement of the bumper so it lines up with the cab. (One of the reasons the locking springs have not been installed yet)

That one pointed out by the arrow is a real "pleasure" to fit the nut on.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/658_zpsizzn6x5r.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/658_zpsizzn6x5r.jpg.html)

Picture of left and right side with cab installed. You can see what I mean with having to fiddle with the placement of the bumper.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/659_zpsgrimm6fo.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/659_zpsgrimm6fo.jpg.html)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a523/Rakthi/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/660_zps5m6xtdhu.jpg (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/Rakthi/media/MAN%20TGX%20XL%206x6/660_zps5m6xtdhu.jpg.html)

That's it for now. Will take me a bit getting the bumper lined up properly.

Then I have to decide what to do next and see if I can locate all the parts needed.

Need to find a good hobby shop in the area, have to buy some stuff for soldering and need to find a dealer for Proxxon stuff.

Kiffer
04-13-2019, 06:38 PM
Nice truck! ScaleART makes a great model

Surge
05-19-2021, 09:20 PM
I love assembling, but the ScaleArt models are really really complex. I’m now glad I ordered mine assembled.