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egronvold
12-21-2015, 06:52 AM
It's been a long while since I started a new build. This truck will be made up of a lot of parts I've got laying around. But, as always, I had to make some supplement purchases :rolleyes:

Not decided on the electronics yet, but the drivetrain and tipp motor will be from Servonaut. I'll make my own dumper.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_001.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_001.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_002.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_002.jpeg.html)

JD Transport
12-21-2015, 02:06 PM
Looking forward to the follow up. JD :-)

Brel
12-21-2015, 11:39 PM
Nice start, where did you get the rear axles with Diff lock from

egronvold
12-22-2015, 02:23 AM
Nice start, where did you get the rear axles with Diff lock from

Der Getribdoktor in Germany.

Lil Giants
12-22-2015, 06:52 AM
What's the output rpm of the Servonaut running gear? Would it be similar to 2nd gear in a tam 3spd?

I had those same lockable diffs from Der Getribdoktor in my white 6wd GL, I blew out 4 or 5 spider crosses in the middle axle in a yr... it was great feature to have, but a steel spider cross is necessity for longevity.

Brel
12-22-2015, 09:25 AM
Der Getribdoktor in Germany.

thanks for the info

here is a link to the Der getriebedoktor in Germany

egronvold I had a bit of a job searching on Google, but found it after using several different spellings of the shops name
http://shop.der-getriebedoktor.de/topangebote.php

egronvold
12-23-2015, 02:36 AM
thanks for the info

here is a link to the Der getriebedoktor in Germany

egronvold I had a bit of a job searching on Google, but found it after using several different spellings of the shops name
http://shop.der-getriebedoktor.de/topangebote.php

That's the site. It's in English as well: http://shop.der-getriebedoktor.de/aid-49-Tamiya-truck-axle-with-cable-locks.html

What's the output rpm of the Servonaut running gear? Would it be similar to 2nd gear in a tam 3spd?

I had those same lockable diffs from Der Getribdoktor in my white 6wd GL, I blew out 4 or 5 spider crosses in the middle axle in a yr... it was great feature to have, but a steel spider cross is necessity for longevity.

This setup is 450 RPM 12V. They have other options too. Strong and scilent :)

As for the axles, did you talk to the driver? Might be some abusive driving... ;)

egronvold
01-03-2016, 04:25 PM
Some progress during Christmas :)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_003.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_003.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_004.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_004.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_005.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_005.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_006.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_006.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_007.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_007.jpeg.html)

JD Transport
01-04-2016, 04:04 PM
Looking good. Keep the pics coming. :-)

JD Transport
01-24-2016, 05:28 PM
It really is a lovely project, I hope to see more, even a video of it in operation would be great.
Thanks JD :-)

JD Transport
02-22-2016, 05:11 PM
Any updates? :-)

egronvold
02-28-2016, 03:42 AM
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_008.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_008.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_009.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_009.jpeg.html)

TRUCKMAKER
02-28-2016, 11:55 AM
Could you tell me what transfer case you have connected to the geared motor, I tried searching for it but didn't find one that looked like that.

egronvold
02-28-2016, 04:23 PM
Could you tell me what transfer case you have connected to the geared motor, I tried searching for it but didn't find one that looked like that.

It's a Servonaut combo. Mine, I believe, is the 450 RPM @12V version.

egronvold
02-28-2016, 04:24 PM
We had awesome weather during the weekend. Clear skies and crisp air. Found the time do do some painting :)


http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_010.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_010.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_011.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_011.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_012.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_012.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_013.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_013.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_014.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_014.jpeg.html)

JD Transport
03-20-2016, 05:04 PM
Lovely model. Keep the updates coming. JD :)

egronvold
03-27-2016, 02:24 AM
It's a slow build, but I'll get it done eventually :)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_015.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_015.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_016.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_016.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_017.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_017.jpeg.html)

fvasileios
04-15-2016, 05:08 PM
It's coming out nicely....
Keep up posting updates...

Bill...

egronvold
04-23-2016, 09:33 AM
Not a lot of progress lately. I hope to get it ready for all the upcoming work in the quarry this summer :)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_018.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_018.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_019.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_019.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_020.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_020.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_021.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_021.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_022.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_022.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_023.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_023.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_024.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_024.jpeg.html)

Homemade lights:

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_025.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_025.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_026.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_026.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_027.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_027.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_028.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_028.jpeg.html)

egronvold
05-28-2016, 04:32 PM
Sloooow, but moving forward :)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_029.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_029.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_030.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_030.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_031.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_031.jpeg.html)

Rakthi
05-28-2016, 08:06 PM
4x4 dumper, don't see many of those around in the model world. Going to be a neat model.

egronvold
06-05-2016, 06:32 PM
Been able to to some work to the truck over the laste days :)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_032.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_032.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_033.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_033.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_034.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_034.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_035.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_035.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_036.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_036.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_037.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_037.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_041.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_041.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_042.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_042.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_043.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_043.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_044.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_044.jpeg.html)

Test of the system (screwdrive not lubricated):

https://youtu.be/P8X-2Ysl1qs

egronvold
06-07-2016, 05:10 PM
Time to paint :)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_045.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_045.jpeg.html)

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http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_048.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_048.jpeg.html)

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http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_051.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_051.jpeg.html)

Bo Wallen
06-07-2016, 06:39 PM
That's a nice build.........A shorty dump truck......You got me inspired to make a shorty....after the long stuff is done......Well done. Carry On Please.
P.S. Heja Norge :D

egronvold
06-08-2016, 06:26 PM
Thanks!

Got some more work done today:

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_052.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_052.jpg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_053.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_053.jpg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_057.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_057.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_058.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_058.jpeg.html)

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http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_060.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_060.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_061.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_061.jpeg.html)

Mounting plate for the difflock servo ++

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_054.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_054.jpg.html)

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http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_056.jpg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_056.jpg.html)

Hofabooz
06-13-2016, 10:56 AM
Hi

Thats a really interesting build and usual a shorty 4x dump truck should be able to get all over the place with that.
Looking forwards to see the finished result.

Regards

Mark

JD Transport
06-13-2016, 09:17 PM
Top little truck, 4x4 really great.

It's great that you can make almost everything yourself.

Well done.

JD. :p

crawler07
06-17-2016, 10:34 PM
Nice work Sir, did you make the cnc router yourself?

egronvold
06-18-2016, 03:44 PM
Nice work Sir, did you make the cnc router yourself?

Thank you!
The router is made by Stepcraft in Germany.

egronvold
07-15-2016, 04:57 PM
I wasn't really happy with the first dump box I made, at least not for this truck, so I made another one :)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_062.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_062.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_063.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_063.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_064.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_064.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_065.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_065.jpeg.html)

cosworth34677
07-17-2016, 08:50 AM
following this truck, for a bit. and i like it! love the wood.

egronvold
07-21-2016, 06:53 PM
Testing the new dump box: https://youtu.be/MgayuGSf-8U

buff69
07-22-2016, 01:02 PM
I like is nice ��

egronvold
08-14-2016, 01:21 AM
A few mods and some new features. It will take some time to finish this truck ;)

Servoconnector for trailers

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_066.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_066.jpeg.html)

All 12 ch will be in use :)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_067.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_067.jpeg.html)

New brackets and fenders

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_070.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_070.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_071.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_071.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_068.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_068.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_069.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_069.jpeg.html)

egronvold
09-18-2016, 02:40 PM
First test in a while: https://youtu.be/qFwJhiCyLJM

egronvold
10-02-2016, 04:06 AM
Some progress over the last weeks. Planning to have it ready for Oslo Motor Show 2016 :)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_072.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_072.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_073.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_073.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_074.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_074.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_075.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_075.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_076.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_076.jpeg.html)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/ls_15/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_077.jpeg (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/ls_15/media/Scania%20R%204x4/scania_r_4x4_077.jpeg.html)

Rvjimd
10-02-2016, 07:50 AM
I couldn't tell in the photos? Does the dump screw run from the same motor coming off the transfer case or its own separate motor? Nice job! Jim

egronvold
10-02-2016, 12:45 PM
I couldn't tell in the photos? Does the dump screw run from the same motor coming off the transfer case or its own separate motor? Nice job! Jim
Thanks!
Had to put the motor for the screw drive under the cabin due to lack of space :)

egronvold
10-02-2016, 02:40 PM
A short clip of the truck: https://youtu.be/btM4qiOAna0

egronvold
10-10-2017, 02:32 AM
New rer fenders from ScaleParts (rclastebilbutikk1.no):
https://scontent.fosl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22195653_495270150842615_8037738346118062562_n.jpg ?oh=779b520fb6bbdd38274e5a085789a0c3&oe=5A762539