Doggy
01-18-2016, 07:51 PM
Hi all. I am in this hobby for 15 years now, not active all the time.Last year after few years of pause, I bought tamiya hilux to drive around with my friend. And afer some time and talking, we discovered a world of 1/14:D. He bought 6x4 scania, and I bought a Bruder toy:lol: I tought I could do the conversion to RC as Bruder toys look very nice.
I bought this crane
http://www.outbacktoystore.com/1-16th-Bruder-Liebherr-Crane-on-Scania-Truck-w-stabilizers-image.pjpeg
And then these to
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-59_w5YMCHc8/Vp1wOrHsRBI/AAAAAAAAAvo/kV2t98LD7HA/s800-Ic42/8c417d1ef0c9edb747aa88c21d91e94b9d7039f220b50cb425 dfe48ff6cbbca9.jpg
Also rc fork lift
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0XohHChEI_Y/Vp1wQESc8vI/AAAAAAAAAvo/zd0JFIqyeLk/s800-Ic42/0b2bc17bd802020d8537eeafeec302ea3c293d7f3ba2d0f3da 6db75333868623.jpg
Then I had to say STOP, as I had many toys that I can only watch:confused:
So started to brake it down
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IjrqYD0mcLg/Vp1wNvaMAyI/AAAAAAAAAvo/fPK0zUz9btA/s800-Ic42/2fe02ab72bd5cb89357ffb209c48943e268705d33820dc71e1 01d52abcd439c5.0.jpg
I see that I cant use this chassis, tires and wheels are useless, so only cabin and crane for now. As I bought 2 trucks, the main thing to do was to make chassis for them. Some calculations later showed that I need 22 wheels, 22 tires, 7 axles,... $$$$$$$$ Maybe it would be better that I just bought tamiya truck and call it a day:cop:
But I didnt:D
First I started doing the most expensive part, the axle. But hey, front axle is not that expensive, so I made a design for drop axle, and some wheel hubs, to see how tamiya truck tires will look on Bruder. I used my 3d printer to print out my design.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7S8FLcigM4k/Vp14OC_DLNI/AAAAAAAAAwA/2kEcXlmMJ6A/s800-Ic42/a64d822a73e19e455e32cb9c79d5eccbdd03bd135429acd6ae 4c1cb034fde28d.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y1yGdI8v79k/Vp14Rh5MtDI/AAAAAAAAAwI/xWDxG1J9gl0/s800-Ic42/3414334993d5570854b5d67c3bc7ae924ec1df32e301069ce0 599a09a069a182.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kyzZiiMHVm0/Vp14UWrrF9I/AAAAAAAAAwQ/bvTtp31z_tU/s800-Ic42/bc8b77c90397afeb6d1ca7027ce777e11a2d0a712a1a204929 b1fbac08c39a9f.jpg
Soon after that I started looking for some small cheap open differentials, and found something fo a 1/12 scale buggy that I thought might work. Ordered it, and started to design my axle around it. Somewhere along the way a friend called me and said that he needs all wheel drive to drive offroad, rwd is just not enough he said.
So I droped drop axle:D, and decided to go al wheel drive. A spent some time working on the axle design, printed out 10 different ones to find the best solution.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cDfStCAPPOA/Vp1wQuneeXI/AAAAAAAAAvo/-_YQXwwa2wA/s800-Ic42/a19c4c780060110ca9a53c0147e6d8c5a3813255e137683488 644b28b00c2b4e.jpg
Then when I thought I had it, friend called again and said: "My friend, we need to have remote locking to help us when we get stuck offroad!":lol:
Ohhh, here we go again. So I did a simple locker for my bought diff.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QDntJJuQJKg/Vp1wQ_ufxbI/AAAAAAAAAvo/gYaqgzcH_2A/s800-Ic42/3f483a9c3cb4bd475a5e4309f071ae81026b3193618ccc4680 0a703582de3ee8.jpg
I dont like how this version is engaged, I have some other ideas for it, but I need to find a thin cable with tubing I could use, and then I will continue with lockers. For now its on hold, but I left the axles with the place to install lockers later.
So this is the first version of the rear axle with V1 locker instaled
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Au9qWwxs51I/Vp1wSCCRomI/AAAAAAAAAvo/yHlUcDV95HA/s800-Ic42/4ffd0abfb41e809439931fa5576025891bab05ed992367fdd1 d4a10121821162.jpg
Then I decided to drink one beer :lol:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p7rp-slSeXw/Vp1wTYsptAI/AAAAAAAAAvo/2NwNv0OqM0I/s800-Ic42/dd08d2fc63b83d5a9ac873cacd946b7c1aed4199f6675a30f0 0b3a23af774210.jpg
Then it all goes bad. I realised I dont have enough tamiya wheels to see how it will look like when I put 2 axles at the rear. So I decided to design my own wheels and print them out.
Then I realised I dont like tamiya hex, and I want scale 10 bolts hubs. So I designed new wheel and hub. Then I needed leaf springs for the rear. I tried to design and print them, and I was very supprised as they worked really good. First design was something like tamiya use, but than I realised thats far from scale, so I used some Actros photos to see how the real thing looks like. Few days, and many sleepless nights later, I had all of this on my desk.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xZqAC31UDiI/Vp1wX6XTnvI/AAAAAAAAAvo/jAa01THeAV4/s800-Ic42/felga.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nrZ4Nb3TGF4/Vp1wbzFN9zI/AAAAAAAAAvo/26Lqp5jwWPs/s800-Ic42/2bd94691c1d5c523264b52e3a456dda8a714a5ee698eb65184 7e6f121ffec085.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C-o-afG9gps/Vp1wZrYOxmI/AAAAAAAAAvo/UXifCUlpjzg/s800-Ic42/839d9fd3160ac9d46cecb1cf13180137c3f70b539519540f0c 0b3802e8133cf4.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K8t3_7qBAjg/Vp1wZNLq3vI/AAAAAAAAAvo/xtsRH7tYTRc/s800-Ic42/2ac9e2c8f8ea9225e889b62dae78e3fd9f1054e62014acc0c1 319cc84c350094.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s1bNBmjYII8/Vp1wYvpzqTI/AAAAAAAAAvo/d6DE6uALu3g/s800-Ic42/f777ad07f8ced592ccd7a32708f64d1dd3b8ccfa606bfa18a8 dc41394452a538.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4ritOxpvx5U/Vp1wXOECa-I/AAAAAAAAAvo/aW7tilnbEl4/s800-Ic42/b64ffd4030b99c52c7a3ec06efa0cbd0367fdd026e297d0129 209bd213345948.0.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lfmFSxLvFXw/Vp1wVWkH4GI/AAAAAAAAAvo/Gi1zdb-4mUM/s800-Ic42/014b1a934cbd84fbcb14a982256144d661d0b1bb560256668c 63e815dd1b4f40.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VSAnwKkomeA/Vp1wWYTa8PI/AAAAAAAAAvo/yKLhYOIAxHU/s800-Ic42/c7f59dceebfbe64059687487acc03a909ec9a54379fe1705ab a1b785d96cb61f.0.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w3NycVRdwzQ/Vp1wbKP4qgI/AAAAAAAAAvo/RoNpgN5DO-4/s800-Ic42/2fb30a3575460e7d7ada60740119a854c52516c7e9198d51d4 53b30b817c1e86.jpg
I bought this crane
http://www.outbacktoystore.com/1-16th-Bruder-Liebherr-Crane-on-Scania-Truck-w-stabilizers-image.pjpeg
And then these to
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-59_w5YMCHc8/Vp1wOrHsRBI/AAAAAAAAAvo/kV2t98LD7HA/s800-Ic42/8c417d1ef0c9edb747aa88c21d91e94b9d7039f220b50cb425 dfe48ff6cbbca9.jpg
Also rc fork lift
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0XohHChEI_Y/Vp1wQESc8vI/AAAAAAAAAvo/zd0JFIqyeLk/s800-Ic42/0b2bc17bd802020d8537eeafeec302ea3c293d7f3ba2d0f3da 6db75333868623.jpg
Then I had to say STOP, as I had many toys that I can only watch:confused:
So started to brake it down
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IjrqYD0mcLg/Vp1wNvaMAyI/AAAAAAAAAvo/fPK0zUz9btA/s800-Ic42/2fe02ab72bd5cb89357ffb209c48943e268705d33820dc71e1 01d52abcd439c5.0.jpg
I see that I cant use this chassis, tires and wheels are useless, so only cabin and crane for now. As I bought 2 trucks, the main thing to do was to make chassis for them. Some calculations later showed that I need 22 wheels, 22 tires, 7 axles,... $$$$$$$$ Maybe it would be better that I just bought tamiya truck and call it a day:cop:
But I didnt:D
First I started doing the most expensive part, the axle. But hey, front axle is not that expensive, so I made a design for drop axle, and some wheel hubs, to see how tamiya truck tires will look on Bruder. I used my 3d printer to print out my design.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7S8FLcigM4k/Vp14OC_DLNI/AAAAAAAAAwA/2kEcXlmMJ6A/s800-Ic42/a64d822a73e19e455e32cb9c79d5eccbdd03bd135429acd6ae 4c1cb034fde28d.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y1yGdI8v79k/Vp14Rh5MtDI/AAAAAAAAAwI/xWDxG1J9gl0/s800-Ic42/3414334993d5570854b5d67c3bc7ae924ec1df32e301069ce0 599a09a069a182.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kyzZiiMHVm0/Vp14UWrrF9I/AAAAAAAAAwQ/bvTtp31z_tU/s800-Ic42/bc8b77c90397afeb6d1ca7027ce777e11a2d0a712a1a204929 b1fbac08c39a9f.jpg
Soon after that I started looking for some small cheap open differentials, and found something fo a 1/12 scale buggy that I thought might work. Ordered it, and started to design my axle around it. Somewhere along the way a friend called me and said that he needs all wheel drive to drive offroad, rwd is just not enough he said.
So I droped drop axle:D, and decided to go al wheel drive. A spent some time working on the axle design, printed out 10 different ones to find the best solution.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cDfStCAPPOA/Vp1wQuneeXI/AAAAAAAAAvo/-_YQXwwa2wA/s800-Ic42/a19c4c780060110ca9a53c0147e6d8c5a3813255e137683488 644b28b00c2b4e.jpg
Then when I thought I had it, friend called again and said: "My friend, we need to have remote locking to help us when we get stuck offroad!":lol:
Ohhh, here we go again. So I did a simple locker for my bought diff.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QDntJJuQJKg/Vp1wQ_ufxbI/AAAAAAAAAvo/gYaqgzcH_2A/s800-Ic42/3f483a9c3cb4bd475a5e4309f071ae81026b3193618ccc4680 0a703582de3ee8.jpg
I dont like how this version is engaged, I have some other ideas for it, but I need to find a thin cable with tubing I could use, and then I will continue with lockers. For now its on hold, but I left the axles with the place to install lockers later.
So this is the first version of the rear axle with V1 locker instaled
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Au9qWwxs51I/Vp1wSCCRomI/AAAAAAAAAvo/yHlUcDV95HA/s800-Ic42/4ffd0abfb41e809439931fa5576025891bab05ed992367fdd1 d4a10121821162.jpg
Then I decided to drink one beer :lol:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p7rp-slSeXw/Vp1wTYsptAI/AAAAAAAAAvo/2NwNv0OqM0I/s800-Ic42/dd08d2fc63b83d5a9ac873cacd946b7c1aed4199f6675a30f0 0b3a23af774210.jpg
Then it all goes bad. I realised I dont have enough tamiya wheels to see how it will look like when I put 2 axles at the rear. So I decided to design my own wheels and print them out.
Then I realised I dont like tamiya hex, and I want scale 10 bolts hubs. So I designed new wheel and hub. Then I needed leaf springs for the rear. I tried to design and print them, and I was very supprised as they worked really good. First design was something like tamiya use, but than I realised thats far from scale, so I used some Actros photos to see how the real thing looks like. Few days, and many sleepless nights later, I had all of this on my desk.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xZqAC31UDiI/Vp1wX6XTnvI/AAAAAAAAAvo/jAa01THeAV4/s800-Ic42/felga.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nrZ4Nb3TGF4/Vp1wbzFN9zI/AAAAAAAAAvo/26Lqp5jwWPs/s800-Ic42/2bd94691c1d5c523264b52e3a456dda8a714a5ee698eb65184 7e6f121ffec085.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C-o-afG9gps/Vp1wZrYOxmI/AAAAAAAAAvo/UXifCUlpjzg/s800-Ic42/839d9fd3160ac9d46cecb1cf13180137c3f70b539519540f0c 0b3802e8133cf4.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K8t3_7qBAjg/Vp1wZNLq3vI/AAAAAAAAAvo/xtsRH7tYTRc/s800-Ic42/2ac9e2c8f8ea9225e889b62dae78e3fd9f1054e62014acc0c1 319cc84c350094.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s1bNBmjYII8/Vp1wYvpzqTI/AAAAAAAAAvo/d6DE6uALu3g/s800-Ic42/f777ad07f8ced592ccd7a32708f64d1dd3b8ccfa606bfa18a8 dc41394452a538.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4ritOxpvx5U/Vp1wXOECa-I/AAAAAAAAAvo/aW7tilnbEl4/s800-Ic42/b64ffd4030b99c52c7a3ec06efa0cbd0367fdd026e297d0129 209bd213345948.0.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lfmFSxLvFXw/Vp1wVWkH4GI/AAAAAAAAAvo/Gi1zdb-4mUM/s800-Ic42/014b1a934cbd84fbcb14a982256144d661d0b1bb560256668c 63e815dd1b4f40.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VSAnwKkomeA/Vp1wWYTa8PI/AAAAAAAAAvo/yKLhYOIAxHU/s800-Ic42/c7f59dceebfbe64059687487acc03a909ec9a54379fe1705ab a1b785d96cb61f.0.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w3NycVRdwzQ/Vp1wbKP4qgI/AAAAAAAAAvo/RoNpgN5DO-4/s800-Ic42/2fb30a3575460e7d7ada60740119a854c52516c7e9198d51d4 53b30b817c1e86.jpg