rc4wd 870k loader

[roadranger]

I see now rc4wd is now offering the Eagle 870k loader again. Is this an improved V.2 version? It costs slightly more than the V.1.5 they sold before.

[lenny]

funny i was here to ask the same question. I've heard about the axel troubles and was wondering if this has been worked out. All the videos i find on the 870k are over a year old. thanks in advance

[scottyk]

I emailed the main guy,his name is Tang from Eagle machine and informed me that they have only been selling new versions for well over a year and they addressed the differential issues on previous versions. The RC4wd ones are the same as buying from Eagle except they do not have a sound module in them. This is what I was told from Tang.

[lenny]

Thank you for the info on the loader. From what ive seen and heard about it i'm in 100% good to know if you buy from eagle you get the sound kit aswell but that can always be added later on if bought from rc4wd. thanks again all good info

[liftmys10]

So the loader from rc4wd does not come with sound module but the same one from Eagle does come?
What's the price difference between them?

[scottyk]

Keep in mind prices change alot, but at the time I was inquiring "Early November 2016" there was a 200 dollar price difference between the RC4WD and direct from Eagle. RC4WD was cheaper because they shipped without the sound module.

I was also informed it is not possible to get these loaders without a radio system. They come ready to run only. Just thought I would throw that in as well because that was my main concern.

[andyathome]

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I got one of the first version from Tang and had the diff issues , but easily fixed, the service was second to none , he also sent new upgraded diffs to me for free, and will one day get the dozer direct from eagle .
I have dealt with rc4wd in the past and wasn't overly impressed.

cheers andy

[lenny]

so glad people are stepping up with info on this. thanks it helps to ease my mind about the prices were talking about....

[scottyk]

I would not hesitate to send Tang a email, he is very easy to converse with and always seems to reply within a day. He has answered all of my questions and I have not purchased anything from him, yet.

Eaglemach@foxmail.com

[fabi]

i bought the Wheelloader past year and now i have bought the Volvo excavator ,
directly from Aegle Machinery HK limetid ...and it was with Mister Tang .
Had a problem with the Valve ( was leaking in 2 day's , they send me another O-ring to fix it + they send me another Valve wrongly it was for a ather customer , Mister Tang mailt me to pay a nice price what i did ....verry good service , i recommended them .

[Northern Farmer]

Indeed Eagle Machinery has great customer service :cool: Your best off contacting Tang directly if you need anything.

Eaglemach@foxmail.com

[Northern Farmer]

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I got one of the first version from Tang and had the diff issues , but easily fixed, the service was second to none , he also sent new upgraded diffs to me for free, and will one day get the dozer direct from eagle .
I have dealt with rc4wd in the past and wasn't overly impressed.

cheers andy

Such a sweet looking front end loader :)

[Rimrock]

Good job with the painting of the above pictured. Must agree that the loader looks better with the bright yellow color, than the rather 'lame' original yellow)

[liftmys10]

Good job with the painting of the above pictured. Must agree that the loader looks better with the bright yellow color, than the rather 'lame' original yellow)

Did Andy repaint the yellow portion too?

[Rimrock]

Did Andy repaint the yellow portion too?

i don't have first hand info regarding what's possible been done. Just think the yellow on that picture looks brighter than the 'yellow-brown' we are used to see on the pictures of the model. If it's repainted, or the photo/light conditions fools us, or the fabricator uses different color tones, I'm not the one to tell

[andyathome]

cheers guys,
um no I didn't redo the yellow , its how it came but I did give it a polish with some cutting compound, painted the black with a cheap spray can and made up the decals.



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[TheBennyB]

Man, that is a beaut Clark. Can't go wrong dealing with Tang. When I had 4200 issues through rc4wd he couldn't help me direct, but let me know that he would do all he could if things went south with rc4wd. I ended up getting things resolved through rc4wd but will go through Tang here on out (JD-98 on the way.)

[Efroeh]

I wonder if this loader will ever come on sale like the excavators do.

[Northern Farmer]

The only time I've seen them on sale was at 5% discount on Eagle's aliexpress store. Only reason the excavator version 2.0 is on sale is to liquidate the old stock since the new model is out.

[Efroeh]

The only time I've seen them on sale was at 5% discount on Eagle's aliexpress store. Only reason the excavator version 2.0 is on sale is to liquidate the old stock since the new model is out.

Do you remember around when it was on Sale? Just curious if maybe they do it certain time of the year or not.

[Northern Farmer]

Do you remember around when it was on Sale? Just curious if maybe they do it certain time of the year or not.

Last time I saw them on sale was during their 5 year anniversary which was early in the fall of 2015.

[Northern Farmer]

They also went on sale at the beginning of 2016

http://rctruckandconstruction.com/showthread.php?t=11128

[lenny]

not sure if this is the place for this question. but looking for payment info for the 870k. (thru tang) theres western union who gives no protection at all, then theres paypal with a 4.4% fee its a no brainer to protect 4k. But if you pay paypal thru your c/c then shouldn't they also back you up. Any owners please chime in.. just trying to see the most common way. Ive never sent money to china before. thanks Lenny

[Efroeh]

I am also dealing on a loader threw tang for mid to late March I was quoted for a price of with the sound module and paypal fees the total would be 3832.50 American which is about 82 bucks for the paypal fees. I know there's a few people here have bought from him with western union and have no issues.

[lenny]

yes that seems to be the way to go, i was quoted a price with sound and light kit shipped to N.Y for 4k with useing paypal and there fees. checking out other pay options today. I will keep you guys in the loop as to help anyone else who's looking.

[TheBennyB]

I believe if you use Western Union at certain locations you can use your cc to send the money. Would this then be protected by your cc or as soon as WU gets the funds its just in their world? I used WU to pay Tang at my grocery store and had to use a pin debit card. This also meant I could only do payments of 2k or less so it had to be done in 2 payments in 48hrs as my debit card had a 2k a day max. No issues and have my product from Tang, though I was a bit nervous till that big box showed up even with tracking info.

[Efroeh]

yes that seems to be the way to go, i was quoted a price with sound and light kit shipped to N.Y for 4k with useing paypal and there fees. checking out other pay options today. I will keep you guys in the loop as to help anyone else who's looking.

I just looked threw my email exchange with Tang and he quoted me 3750 with sound and lights included shipped to sask canada threw western union pay. The lights are not installed just the sound kit.

[lenny]

the light kit that is supplied is it complete? meaning work lights, turn signals brake lights. hard to tell by video as im not sure what light kits people are using. I will be sure to send some video once its here. Tang said the kit has dual beacons but no real info on the rest of the light functions. thanks for everyone's input on this.

[Efroeh]

the light kit that is supplied is it complete? meaning work lights, turn signals brake lights. hard to tell by video as im not sure what light kits people are using. I will be sure to send some video once its here. Tang said the kit has dual beacons but no real info on the rest of the light functions. thanks for everyone's input on this.

Look forward to seeing yours in action and opinion of it. This is what he sent me.

Morning!

That's US$3750 plus US$82.5 Paypal fee,total US$3832.5,loader is installed sound module,but without light system,light system price is: beacon light US$35/ set(two units),

light system US$65/ set(tail&steering light etc),if you pay by Western Union,we could offer a complete light system of wheel loader to you currently.

[Northern Farmer]

the light kit that is supplied is it complete? meaning work lights, turn signals brake lights. hard to tell by video as im not sure what light kits people are using. I will be sure to send some video once its here. Tang said the kit has dual beacons but no real info on the rest of the light functions. thanks for everyone's input on this.

Here's a video from Eagle demonstrating the light kit upgrade they sell for the loader :cool:

https://youtu.be/7pDR8uSJ7TE

[lenny]

thank you for that video, cleared up all my concerns. Now the waiting game starts...hope they dont ship it on that dam slow boat.

[TheBennyB]

Been my experience that if it's coming from China (eagle/rc4wd) it'll take 3-4 weeks.

[lenny]

looking for some info on the battery people are using. rc4wd states outta stock.. any other drop in batteries out there?

[rc13]

Here is what I copied off of the Website for the 870 battery:
3S 6500mAh 11.1v 20c Lipo battery (Max size: 73mm X 80mm X 132mm)

You could use a battery with a little less mAh. Since you know the dimensions and that it is a 3S, check out this link for a battery:

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/batteries/lipoly-all-brands.html

They have tons of batteries with all of the dimensions listed.

[lenny]

thanks for the lead. dhl contacted me to say it should be here Monday, if thats true it was less then a week not counting s/s. I have waited longer for packages from jersey..

[Tungvo]

Hello, i wanted to know if you had to pay import duties on it? And if so how much was it?

[lenny]

For me no import fee here in N.Y just 3850 and 450 of that is shipping, and thats with sound and lights. Hardest choice was the excavator or the loader first. And now the dozer.
.. o-boy .. i see a lot of o.t in my future. plus find time to play with the stuff.

[jack van]

For me no import fee here in N.Y just 3850 and 450 of that is shipping, and thats with sound and lights. Hardest choice was the excavator or the loader first. And now the dozer.
.. o-boy .. i see a lot of o.t in my future. plus find time to play with the stuff.

take the toys to work with you and play with them dureing ot haha

[Northern Farmer]

Was just browsing RC4WD site and noticed the 870K looked different and realized Eagle machinery updated the rear panel on the loader :cool:

http://store.rc4wd.com/114-Scale-Earth-Mover-870K-Hydraulic-Wheel-Loader_p_3828.html
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[Efroeh]

Look like they also removed the fan that the older models have attached to the hood.

[Northern Farmer]

For comparison here's the older back panel

http://i67.tinypic.com/2ckkms.jpg

[SteinHDan]

I got that new version and yes, it does not have the fan. Also, I think maybe the battery compartment is a different size now. It seems to allow more standard sized batteries.

I bought this one, and it fits very nicely (143x51x28mm) and is quite cheap:

ZIPPY Flightmax 5800mAh 3S1P 30C (http://amzn.to/2ox6WZD)

http://ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com/widgets/q?_encoding=UTF8&ASIN=B00URCHVDU&Format=_SL160_&ID=AsinImage&MarketPlace=US&ServiceVersion=20070822&WS=1&tag=tube00-20
(http://amzn.to/2ox6WZD)

It fits very snugly. I don't think the battery could be any bigger in any dimension. Especially the width. I don't think you could squeeze 29mm in there unless you moved some of the plastic straps.

I replaced the bullet connector with XT60, but you can also buy an adapter with wire or without:
- Adapter with wire (http://www.ebay.com/itm/121913431782)
- Adapter without wire (http://www.ebay.com/itm/111384312392)



Best regards,
Stein :-)

[lenny]

that would figure, I placed my order mid February so I wonder what style engine cover I'll get. rather the older style to be honest. (newer looks a lil case-ish) Good info on that battery as well.

[Northern Farmer]

I like the new rear panel. I personally would replace the red lenses with some clear one's and put the reverse lights there with a slow vehicle triangle on the back :cool:

[lenny]

well I'm happy to report fed-ex spared my loader as it arrived perfectly. No wood just cardboard and foam packing, box gave me a little scare as it took some hits now ofcorse I just get a message the battery I ordered is out of stock so the torture continues. Now its just taunting me.. working on photobucket to upload some pics

[TheBennyB]

That gives you time to do a one over. Check all your screws and connections to make sure they are tight. Also check your terminal block to make sure nothing is loose, as well as your RX connections. Looking forward to the pics!

[lenny]

I was thinking the same thing.. was just going thru the kit and not seeing the body for the waring becon??? just led bulbs with leads no base or dome

[lenny]

yep got shorted the becon light package..I received 18 bulbs and theres18 mounting holes on the machine. looks like a fun install to lots of tight spots. dont make sense to me not to offer the install at the time of build..

[TheBennyB]

Nothing else it gets you to know your machine. Running those lights will require some stuff taken apart and seeing the "guts" to it.

[lenny]

looks like cab removal,rear cover and exhaust platform. and sure of plenty others.would like to run it a few times before tearing it down for light install and inspect for any issues. Shipping only very minimal oil from the vent line leaked. so I'll top it off run it thru it paces and change. clear line from tank to pump shows golden oil so should get thru some testing before a flush, if and when the battery gets here.. pure torture.. I'm not so hot for the radio kinda looks a little toy-ish but main concern was that it got here in one piece and I'll take that..

[Northern Farmer]

Thought of you Lenny when I saw this video

https://youtu.be/FIqWjSum2dQ

[Northern Farmer]

Gotta love the commentary :D

https://youtu.be/wT_bRjRZ23Y

[lenny]

ya never know what goes on in foreign parking garages.. yet another night she sits powerless. But on the plus side my new dura conveyor showed up, some assembly required sounds about right.

[mitschka]

have fun with the cool Toy

https://youtu.be/OO7XUgIN4G8

[lenny]

going to a long night.. but in a good way, my battery got here early. still figuring out the whole lipo charger tested batt out of the box at 12.2 did a quick test of sound only, worked as it should for a minute then shut down and restarted so if its like the m.f.u on the charger she goes.

[Northern Farmer]

Yeah I recommend selecting a balance charge if you have the option on your charger. Every cell gets an even charge this way. Check youtube for help videos, there's most likely a video about your charger.

[lenny]

well there goes that idea, got the battery all juiced up and bang-o.. crap sound quality followed by no sound at all.. somthing loose, a good love tap to the cab and I get a lil tease. but everything else is going great. with some of the shipping horrors ive heard with r/c machines ill take a crapped out sound kit any day. sound or not i still love it.

[TheBennyB]

Probably just a loose connection.

[lenny]

yep the leads to the speaker itslef are loose. easy fix. I would like to swap steering and tilt. anyone know which channel steer and tilt are on? to keep me from pulling one at a time, as i received no info on this radio or any paperwork for that matter.

[Northern Farmer]

Here's the wiring diagram for the loader. Steering is channel 1 and I believe tilt represented by "dump bed" channel 4.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2h3wx9w.jpg

[lenny]

Thanks for the diagram on the wiring as I know that will be valuable to me on more then one occasion.

[lenny]

Anyone know of a manual or a PDF or the 870 loader. looks like cab has to come off to repair speaker leads. trying to locate all involved screws. ahead of the cursing and head scratching.

[SteinHDan]

I have found this one, but I would like to see a more official link:
- http://www.beadlok.com/product/images/6/Loader%20specifications.pdf


Best regards,
Stein

[TheBennyB]

Yup, looks like 6 screws from underneath on pg 40.

[lenny]

Thank you for the pages on the loader, guess that explains the sounds quality. Theres a chair using a speaker for a seat.. maybe I can turn the seat into some sort of a bass box. looking into a better quality speaker that will fit. keep ya posted if I do. thanks again for the much needed info.

[liftmys10]

Lenny, did you find a better speaker alternative? Stock speaker appears to be 45mm or 1-3/4" diameter.
My beier sound card may have over powered the stock speaker and caused damage. Any tips or speaker alternatives would be appreciated.
Thanks

[lenny]

I have a speaker from one of my Lionel engines.. it's laying in the rear hatch facing out the left side vents which is nice for sound. Just no need to remove the cab yet so thats the way its been.

[jack van]

there are 4 screws to remove the cab 2 are in the front of cab 1 is in the front of the hydro tank the 4 screw will take the whole cab in 1 piece i believe but i had to remove all of it i will not get into the problems i have had and still haveing i have the it apart from front of cab to the rear bumper hahahaha:jaw::mad::mad::mad:

[liftmys10]

Thanks Jack, and Lenny.
I removed the cab. Sure enough my speaker was damaged from over powering. It still works if I apply small amount of pressure with my finger on the speaker cone. So I looked around and there is not much choice for a 45mm speaker. I ended up getting this on ebay and I'll cut the ears off. I hope it fits. https://m.ebay.com/itm/2pcs-1-75-quot-inch-45MM-8ohm-8-7W-full-range-speaker-Loudspeaker-Bluetooth-Audio-/162820020260?txnId=1721787650006

[liftmys10]

Success story. I ended up getting the speaker off of ebay (link to speaker information in previous post.) I cut the ears off and it fit perfectly into the existing opening underneath the operators seat. I noticed the edge of the speaker was being pinched and restricted of free movement against the black plastic housing. I used a dremel and cut an angle at the 4 areas i have circled in red. This allowed the speaker's edge not to touch the black plastic housing. I believe that was part of the cause for the original speaker to fail. The other part was the original speaker being 4ohm and it should be at least 8ohm according to my sound card's manual at the voltage I'm running it as.
The new pair of speakers i received don't seem to have any strength of magnet.?? Whereas the original speaker's magnet was quite present. Not sure how speakers work but I thought all speakers need magnet?? Regardless, the sound quality is more or less the same as the original.

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