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ihbuilder
11-17-2011, 08:00 AM
just a peak of what I've been designing amongst other things :rolleyes:

borrowed pic from machinery trader
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/990cat.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1618.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1621.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1622.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1630.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1624.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1623-1.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1628.jpg

thanks for lookin

FreddyGearDrive
11-17-2011, 08:25 AM
WOW! That really came out nice!Although! I see you & Travis are useing the same wimpy axles. I gotta have a front row seat for the vid,Can't wait to see this monster get a good full bucket. Then watch the front of the machine go to the ground when you try to lift it.:eek::eek:
Gotta get one in there when I can.;)
FGD

ihbuilder
11-17-2011, 08:31 AM
WOW! That really came out nice!Although! I see you & Travis are useing the same wimpy axles. I gotta have a front row seat for the vid,Can't wait to see this monster get a good full bucket. Then watch the front of the machine go to the ground when you try to lift it.:eek::eek:
Gotta get one in there when I can.;)
FGD

well I could bench test them just give me a few min :rolleyes:

cbazq271
11-17-2011, 09:16 AM
what scale is this?

ihbuilder
11-17-2011, 10:00 AM
what scale is this?

14.5


Oh, freddy, bench test failed by IHB standards Axle redesign in order :rolleyes:

9W Monighan
11-17-2011, 10:21 AM
14.5


Oh freddy bench test failed by IHB standards Axle redesign in order :rolleyes:

STEEL AXLE HOUSINGS!!!!!!

Azonic
11-17-2011, 10:22 AM
Nice parts you made, never liked a Cat but i like your work so far! :)

How much does it weigh as of now?

Lil Giants
11-17-2011, 10:44 AM
4 wheel motors. It'll leave the rear body open for hyd system & electronics. Not to mention much more power than you'll ever get from a motor/trans/axles and alot less mechanics involve.

Review Elliot's & Kalle's Fumotec adt builds for axle design & choice of motors.

Looking fantastic thus far, this one could definitely be a money maker for you... providing you alter it a bit so it isn't a Cat, just looks similar. ;)

Brian in PA
11-17-2011, 10:53 AM
Looks great Steve! Ill take one:D:D

Brian

ihbuilder
11-17-2011, 11:21 AM
4 wheel motors. It'll leave the rear body open for hyd system & electronics. Not to mention much more power than you'll ever get from a motor/trans/axles and alot less mechanics involve.

Review Elliot's & Kalle's Fumotec adt builds for axle design & choice of motors.

Looking fantastic thus far, this one could definitely be a money maker for you... providing you alter it a bit so it isn't a Cat, just looks similar. ;)

Joe , if i sell , they will be unbranded . and yes talking to freddy , 4 gear motors ;)

cbazq271
11-17-2011, 05:48 PM
if you decide to make one to sell, let me know. I will buy one for sure

Snochaser
11-17-2011, 07:13 PM
Steve, I need an order form, better start making duplicate parts.


Ben

fhhhstix
11-17-2011, 07:31 PM
4 wheel motors. It'll leave the rear body open for hyd system & electronics. Not to mention much more power than you'll ever get from a motor/trans/axles and alot less mechanics involve.

Review Elliot's & Kalle's Fumotec adt builds for axle design & choice of motors.

Looking fantastic thus far, this one could definitely be a money maker for you... providing you alter it a bit so it isn't a Cat, just looks similar. ;)

Sorry but I completely disagree without 4 escs you have no way to make true 4wd. Not to mention price and how often they discontinue gear motors so if one quits you are now buying 4. "Not to mention much more power than you'll ever get from a motor/trans/axles and alot less mechanics involve."
Joe you have no idea of what he is using.:rolleyes:

Travis

ihbuilder
11-17-2011, 08:12 PM
I've given this issue some thought :confused: tha housings definately need some up grade :rolleyes: it takes over the weight of my pans to bow these housings which is flatening the mammoth tires unfilled . 1 major faill point is the axle extension at the screw area not much meat for plastic :rolleyes: and they just look to spinly not big loader like so like my mack , I'll be making new housings ;) steel I think will be overkill . There is plenty of room to fit everything needed ;) + an operator in the cab .

Lil Giants
11-17-2011, 10:22 PM
You're wrong on every point Travy.

My Komatsu is 4yrs old, I have done zero wrenching on it and it has moved several cu/yds of dirt in that time. That wdc I had with its overly complicated drivetrain, I had to split it twice to replace driveshafts. And those wdc ball shafts are a hellva alot more stout than the Tamiya dog bones/cups you're using in your loader.

I guess your idea will probably be fine for you b/c you only use your stuff sparingly in rubber dirt at a few shows a yr.

If Stevie has any plans to market this loader, then he better do it right or expect alot of negative feedback.

Motor/trans/driveshafts/axles = problems ...especially if this loader has any significant weight to it.

fhhhstix
11-17-2011, 10:47 PM
:rolleyes: 1 power source 4 motors the motor that loses traction will spin and the others will stall out.

I have ran Izzys loader as well as many others with no problems and yes we do play with it in his yard which is a loamy sand a very heavy combination.

Maybe you should scratch build one and show us how its done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrPnFYrQjo0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Yt6K45YNE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfYlIcURP0U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETjkHdpHFY8

Travis

cbazq271
11-17-2011, 10:47 PM
for sure it should be 4 drive motors. Alot simpler and smoother running with the weight of the machine. You would not need 4 seperate esc. They are alot out there the can run multi brushed motors. The Mamba max pro would be perfect.

fhhhstix
11-17-2011, 10:56 PM
for sure it should be 4 drive motors. Alot simpler and smoother running with the weight of the machine. You would not need 4 seperate esc. They are alot out there the can run multi brushed motors. The Mamba max pro would be perfect.

It is not a mater of one esc not being able to run them it is keeping equal power to them.

Travis

Lil Giants
11-17-2011, 11:26 PM
At low throttle, yes the motor with the least traction will spin alone. At greater than half throttle all four motors go no matter which one has less traction. At full throttle the power is undoubtly equal to all of them.

So you play in the dirt occassionaly... have you even worn the paint off the tracks yet, much less the bucket? ...8 months later

What does Izzy figure he has for hrs on his loader in the dirt? I ran my wdc more than 250hrs for sure the 1st two yrs I had it and the Stahl would undoubtably get a 100hrs each yr, the front aluminum edge of the bucket is razor thin, I could probably shave with it, I'm gonna need a new bucket soon.

I don't have to scratchbuild my own to prove my point, all the top german companies do it with a motor at each wheel for the power, durability & reliability. wdc is the only bonehead that refuses to change, and their market share diminishes moreso every yr as ppl get wise to their models' lack of substance.

FreddyGearDrive
11-17-2011, 11:56 PM
Something kinda like this.
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn50/FreddyGearDrive/freddies%20newest/TruckPics975-1.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn50/FreddyGearDrive/freddies%20newest/TruckPics974-1.jpg
FGD

Espeefan
11-18-2011, 01:24 AM
First of all, Steve, that's an awesome project! I cannot wait to see this thing take shape. Beyond all the bickering going on here, I'd just like to say, nice work! I am sure no matter what you use for a drivetrain, it's going to be a great model. We all have seen your other models and what you are capable of. I don't think any of us have to worry about it being strong.

On the gearmotor drivetrains, and this question is for anyone out there, what motors do the Stahl models run? What motors do the Fumotec/Vario 50 ton dumpers run? I am sure they are larger then what Stahl has, but has anyone actually located specs and the manufacturer of them? I've been looking around for gearmotors myself. Trying to find some that are small but strong. Best I have found this side of the pond are from places like Servocity, who sells something similar to what the Germans use, but is probably not exact.

I'll stay out of the arguements going on right now, but in all honesty, I've been watching a lot of videos of machines with gearmotors and I'll just say I rarely see one stall for long, when a model pushes into a pile of dirt. Kind of like Joe says, maybe when you are using light throttle, and one wheel is a little on the light side (up in the air), it will spin before the others, but it seems once you hit half throttle they all dig.

Axles and transmissions, or gearmotors this will still be a great build.

Lil Giants
11-18-2011, 01:30 AM
Yes, exactly like that Freddy.

That 385 motor spins about 16 000rpm with a very high quality, high reduction gearhead, oodles of power for a twenty - thirty pound model... better than any crap from Servocity or Jameco or any other surplus motor store stateside.

It looks like Anaheim Automation may have some high quallity gh motors to pick from. What do you think of the gh motors you got for your scrapers Steve? (obviously too big to stand end to end within an aluminum axle for the loader, but quality wise?)

Lil Giants
11-18-2011, 01:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/FumotecTV#p/a/u/1/2Y-oxV9QBnY

Fumotec's Bell 4206 (similar to the B50 dumper) with four brushless gh's. Frank had a vid showing this prototype as is with an 80lbs (approx) girl standing on it & so he could pull a small size car on payment. Might be on vimeo.

Azonic
11-18-2011, 02:13 AM
Here you go Joe...

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/8184830/Fumotec_Bell_4206D_beim_ersten_Zugtest

ihbuilder
11-18-2011, 07:56 AM
Yes, exactly like that Freddy.

That 385 motor spins about 16 000rpm with a very high quality, high reduction gearhead, oodles of power for a twenty - thirty pound model... better than any crap from Servocity or Jameco or any other surplus motor store stateside.

It looks like Anaheim Automation may have some high quallity gh motors to pick from. What do you think of the gh motors you got for your scrapers Steve? (obviously too big to stand end to end within an aluminum axle for the loader, but quality wise?)

Joe , those motors got a ton of guts . the scraper , as it is now approches 50# or more . the issue with them is , they're too long to put end to end for an axle thus the reason going diffs . The anahime motors have a week point like DP9's winch , 1 set of plastic planet gears in the planetary :( . Now . on my heavey hual tractor I have 75t motors with a 4:1 reduction , it will put anything you can put on it :eek: it took out 2 stock pinion gears in the rear after awhile I'm tightening the drive shafts up ( yes the set screws have tread lock on them ) it gets old :confused: my big Mack has drive line issues I have to work out yet , but it's becoming a PITA . I can make a drive line that will out do 4 drive motors , but at what cost , maybe for myself but nothing else would get done :rolleyes: Now from what the public is showing here is becoming the winner for the drive line . now, to surce a reliable surce for the right motors . I like what I read on the motors fumotec uses . I got to buy in bulk . I'm going to be stalled on this for a little as I got wheel blanks coming to put together soon , but maybe I can get it to a digging point for january show we're having ( I dobt it :( ) As for Shows here I only know of 2 that use real dirt :rolleyes: 1 close to me that I'll beat this year and Ed's St.Louis 1 . Anyhow thanks for the coments and input :)

SmallHaul
11-18-2011, 08:33 AM
Very nice work on the loader Steve. You should be able to load even dump trailers quickly with that monster.

Lil Giants
11-18-2011, 01:10 PM
These german models seem to have the perfect gh motors in them for smooth power & long term use, but there's never any marking on them so I don't know where they're sourcing them from. :confused: And I'm not going to ask them as it's their trade secret.

My 850 is using MFA ComoDrill motors. This is what's powering each track now (minus the right angle drive) with the 516:1 planetary head. Can't stall them.
http://www.mfacomodrills.com/gearboxes/949dra_series.html

ihbuilder
11-18-2011, 01:21 PM
I know , I just got a Quote from them ;) also I got a different surce for tires ;)

dirtpusher9
11-18-2011, 07:57 PM
Steve, you must be twins to do as much as you do. The loader looks great so far. I wish I had the time and abilities you have.

ihbuilder
11-18-2011, 08:18 PM
thanks Joe :) I wish :( I stay up past midnight on the cad and cam in the morning . but the late nights get to me some times :( . I've made my final decision on the driveline I would like the realisim of the tranny/ and diffs but like the pan for what we're doing and the time it'll take to make it bulit proof is not practical . If 4 gear motors will work for the pans , then they'll work for the loader . I got my quote from mfa right away , now it just waiting to get . those of you who run both liembach and jung , what do you think of them ? personally I like the design of the jung . and the stacked motor on pump will fit right in the cavity where the trany was to go leaving the whole rear behind the axles for batteries ;)

RCLogger
11-19-2011, 12:08 AM
Yes, exactly like that Freddy.

That 385 motor spins about 16 000rpm with a very high quality, high reduction gearhead, oodles of power for a twenty - thirty pound model... better than any crap from Servocity or Jameco or any other surplus motor store stateside.

It looks like Anaheim Automation may have some high quallity gh motors to pick from. What do you think of the gh motors you got for your scrapers Steve? (obviously too big to stand end to end within an aluminum axle for the loader, but quality wise?)

Careful Guys :D My D8 has motors that are 400 in/oz with no problems. Picked up these to try in my next project, 500 in/oz, ServoCity ;) http://servocity.com/html/15_rpm_precision_gear_motor.html

greg

RCLogger
11-19-2011, 12:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/FumotecTV#p/a/u/1/2Y-oxV9QBnY

Fumotec's Bell 4206 (similar to the B50 dumper) with four brushless gh's. Frank had a vid showing this prototype as is with an 80lbs (approx) girl standing on it & so he could pull a small size car on payment. Might be on vimeo.

It looks like that bad boy has electric steering, when I built my ADT I went with electric steering and it makes the model smooth to operate, never have to wait for it to turn..;)

Espeefan
11-19-2011, 12:50 AM
Careful Guys :D My D8 has motors that are 400 in/oz with no problems. Picked up these to try in my next project, 500 in/oz, ServoCity ;) http://servocity.com/html/15_rpm_precision_gear_motor.html

greg

Greg, I just received and test ran a motor I bought from Servocity today, as well. I bought the 20RPM spur gear motor (375 in/oz) and I am really impressed how smooth and quiet it runs. You really can't even tell this motor is running. Smooth as glass. I was really impressed, but I have no idea how much power 375 in/oz of torque will be. What voltage do you run on your motors? The standard seems to be 12 volts, but honestly, I test ran mine up to 18 volts and it seemed to not care one bit. It is so quiet, I was simply looking at the shaft spin, while I kept turning up the knob on the power supply I had it hooked to. When I looked to see how much voltage I was running through it, I was surprised I was well past 12 volts and the motor had no complaints!

RCLogger
11-19-2011, 01:03 AM
I run 12 or if I want a little more speed I run them on 18 volts, like I said though, my D8 runs 400 in/oz on each side and it will spin before it would ever power out.. What are you going to put them in Nathan

Espeefan
11-19-2011, 01:09 AM
Greg, I assumed these motors would probably be fine on up to 24 volts. They are supposed to be a 380 or 390 motor, I think? But the can is as large as any 540/550 motor I have ever seen. These are just a little shorter! Diameter seems the same.

I am really just playing around with the idea of using these. Nothing is for sure yet, but I want to build an articulated 4wd tractor. These are one of the options I am considering!

ihbuilder
11-19-2011, 04:22 PM
IDK guy's :confused: I'm going to give the MFA/commo motors a try in this , scrapers and now my mack :( .

Espeefan
11-19-2011, 04:39 PM
What exactly are MFA motors?

ihbuilder
11-19-2011, 05:02 PM
What exactly are MFA motors?


quote by lil giants const.
My 850 is using MFA ComoDrill motors. This is what's powering each track now (minus the right angle drive) with the 516:1 planetary head. Can't stall them.
http://www.mfacomodrills.com/gearbox...ra_series.html


fumotec uses them in their equipment .

Espeefan
11-19-2011, 07:07 PM
Hey, thanks Steve! I guess I missed the link from Joe. Appreciated it.

ihbuilder
01-08-2012, 08:43 PM
Got tired of moving bucket parts around :rolleyes::o a few pics and a comparison 1 behind a knight day cab on a king frame . I don't drink sada so no soda cans :o . the axles will be changed just not to sure which way I want to go yet . With the mack axle turning out to be a success I'm leaning that way ,depends on the maching time . a 4th axis on the mill would be great but I don't have 1 yet :( so I got to figure how in 3 axis , no big deal just more setup time :(

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1746.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1747.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1748.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1749.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1750.jpg

chaseracer
01-08-2012, 10:38 PM
awesome looking Loader Steve , wonderful job so far can't wait to see more. on a side note I would really like to have thouse rims from that Knight hauler they would look great on my Autocar lol

Tamiya Cowboy
01-08-2012, 10:38 PM
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1750.jpg

HOLY COW! Now that is a loader Steve nice work!

ihbuilder
01-08-2012, 11:11 PM
awesome looking Loader Steve , wonderful job so far can't wait to see more. on a side note I would really like to have thouse rims from that Knight hauler they would look great on my Autocar lol

thanks I'll be getting to them soon enough ;) those are my 1st and will be hard to part with since they hand carved in hard brass :eek: I think thats why the bearings are just about shot in my dremel :eek:

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1750.jpg

HOLY COW! Now that is a loader Steve nice work!





thanks Paul , need this done soon . I'm tired of shoveling to load the mack :eek::p

now I got to get me some brass for the body :)

ihbuilder
01-30-2012, 09:43 PM
some more parts came in from the shop :rolleyes: 12#counter weight :eek: Z link piviot . since I was snaping picks I through a 36"ruler in the pic for size ( 31.5" long from back of counter weight to tooth tip on spade bucket . #30" with std. GP bkt.) I hope these pics are better :confused: .

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1805.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1813.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1812.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1802.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1818.jpg

thats it for now till I get this guy to make me more parts :confused::p:p

Tamiya Cowboy
01-30-2012, 10:28 PM
This is going to be great when it is done it is so massive just a very cool build Steve nice work.

Brian in PA
01-30-2012, 10:44 PM
Great work Steve!

pumptech
01-31-2012, 06:41 AM
Wow ! Awesome work you have done on this loader so far.Bucket detail is awesome,very cool:D

SonoranWraith
01-31-2012, 07:19 PM
That is just massive and looks great so far! :eek:

ihbuilder
01-31-2012, 08:45 PM
This is going to be great when it is done it is so massive just a very cool build Steve nice work.


Great work Steve!

Wow ! Awesome work you have done on this loader so far.Bucket detail is awesome,very cool:D

That is just massive and looks great so far! :eek:

Thanks guys :) yes it's getting bigger and packing on the pounds :eek: up next will be new axles ;) I was going to go with what I have for now :confused: but after puting the counter weight on , I think I better make them now :rolleyes: I got some good picks of how the rear axle pivoit is , so I'll be making that more scale also . stay tuned :D

ihbuilder
02-04-2012, 08:41 PM
snuck in the drop box and motor mount today :o Using a manual speed control (MSC) :p I did a speed test of course it's always dark till I get to take a vid :o:(
FWIW , plenty of room yet to put pump and valves ,etc.;) also , motor is from a 24v dewalt 2 spd. hammer/drill .

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1827.jpg

http://youtu.be/1FNU7pUVjPA

thanks for looking

Snochaser
02-04-2012, 08:58 PM
Looks smooth Steve. Where was hammer mode. Lol. Betcha can't run it through the wall.:D What the trac-hoe in the background, kids toy?

Ben

doodlebug
02-04-2012, 09:05 PM
Gotta like that "Armstrong Steering" great progress!

Cheer's, Neil.

ihbuilder
02-04-2012, 09:06 PM
Looks smooth Steve. Where was hammer mode. Lol. Betcha can't run it through the wall.:D What the trac-hoe in the background, kids toy?

Ben

bet I could ;):D it has enough torq and the right weight with the teeth , that drywall is a gonner . yea kids bruder I need to get all I have started at least working before I dive into the excavator I have planned ;)

Snochaser
02-04-2012, 09:36 PM
:D:D

Ben

RCKiwi
02-05-2012, 03:06 AM
Very impressive!

td9clyde
02-05-2012, 11:03 AM
that loader is going to be a horse lol nice work one of these days i will get the two others i have working and then i will start on a couple new ones lol

Snochaser
02-05-2012, 11:40 AM
that loader is going to be a horse lol nice work one of these days i will get the two others i have working and then i will start on a couple new ones lol

yeah and I thought I was draggin' a#> on my builds. :D Get it in gear Henry!!

ihbuilder
02-05-2012, 12:30 PM
yeah and I thought I was draggin' a#> on my builds. :D Get it in gear Henry!!

yep :rolleyes:

Vanisle
02-05-2012, 12:42 PM
Wow, that's a nice looking loader. You sure have some talent at building. Did you ever get your hydaulic pump going or are you building another one? Will you buy or make cylinders? I think you said on your Mack, another great project, that your cylinders did not work out. Did you ever think about just buying a longer air cylinder, cut it to length and then make new ends. That way you get a finished bore and rod assembly that you know will work. You would only need seals and bushing for the rod end.

Richard

ihbuilder
02-05-2012, 03:09 PM
Rich , I had trouble on the tele cylinders for the mack only do to not enough time on them :( (rushing :o) what I have now acctually works better anyways . I'll be making these ( walk in the park ) I even found actual wiper seals that'll work for the size . I have a couple pumps from index to play around with . 2 have motors on them . the problem with these is the magnetic coupling which is no problem to change (again , lathe time :confused: the mill always is ready for more work for some reason :rolleyes:) ) I still have a sickle set of gears like what the jung pump uses , that I need to make a housing for .

ihbuilder
02-09-2012, 08:50 PM
do these look beefy enough ?

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1833.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1834.jpg

I've been working on these here and there . get a free min or to when the mill not busy :eek:

doodlebug
02-09-2012, 10:45 PM
Look's great Steve, Keep it up:D:D:D:cool::cool::cool:

Cheer's, Neil.

Lil Giants
02-09-2012, 10:48 PM
So you're going with a motor /trans combo?

What the diff ratio gonna be?

ihbuilder
02-09-2012, 11:53 PM
So you're going with a motor /trans combo?

What the diff ratio gonna be?

Joe , 3.3 :1 in the axles 2:1 in the drop box powered by 24v 2 speed dewalthammer/drill motor on 12V . I had an 18volt on it in the test vid . For me , I'm using what I have :o . I think It'll perform very well .:o

RAIDERS
02-10-2012, 12:40 AM
Lookin good steve...

dirtpusher9
02-10-2012, 09:01 PM
You the man Steve!! that baby will be stout now. Great work as usual.

ihbuilder
02-10-2012, 09:34 PM
Lookin good steve...

You the man Steve!! that baby will be stout now. Great work as usual.

thanks guys I'm really pleased the way it's coming out considering I'm using scrapped material for it :o the axles are cut from stock for wrap around bumpers that was .125 " to short :( . the counter wieght is cut from a 1" plate we found on a job back in the early 90's left by pipeliners the drill motor is from a drill I thought I could use on job sites for instaling elc. conduit on concrete walls for elc. serv. without lugging the gen. around (big fail) . So instead of it sitting around collecting more dust , why not put it to real use . I still need to make up the spool carrier ( in steel ) that'll have to wait till I get done with alum. so I don't mix chips . I took a hit on 3 out of 4 55 gal drums full of chips because of it :mad: .

RCKiwi
02-18-2012, 05:06 AM
What sort of differential are you planning on using in this beaut Steve? I've been spending a lot of time on a design for a very small LSD for my loader build, but am thinking are they actually needed? With the weight these scale loaders end up, do they actually lift a wheel with open diff's? Sorry, just picking your brain here:o

Cheers

Glenn

ihbuilder
02-19-2012, 08:06 PM
" do they actually lift a wheel with open diff's " :confused: not sure what you mean here , Glen I'm using the hpi savage steel diffs out of a nitro truck . they seem to handle some abuse . only time will tell .

I took some time this weekend for myself :o to unwind to figure out what to do to solve a production issue on hubs :confused: so I made some more parts for the axles . when running 2'nd op in the mill for the spool carrier on the same jig that I use for hubs , it still f'n off :mad: any how it was a long night :eek: but I managed to save the carriers with a pressed in brass sleeve . well enough BS :p:o I did take some so so pics :o

rear axle assm.
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1853.jpg

front and rear axle assm.
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1862.jpg

carrier and axles
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1859.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1860.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1861.jpg

pivot assm. and parts
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1855.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1856.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1857.jpg

steel sleeve over alum. for better wear protection
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1858.jpg

thanks for lookin

steamer
02-20-2012, 01:07 AM
Steve That a stout looking set of axles. How many scoops will this machine take to load the Mack.
Rob

RCKiwi
02-20-2012, 03:16 AM
Thanks Steve, yep, I'm using savage diff's too;) I'm trying to contain the conversion in a standard savage diff casing so I can retro fit at a later date.

Very nice looking axles!

ihbuilder
02-20-2012, 07:37 AM
Steve That a stout looking set of axles. How many scoops will this machine take to load the Mack.
Rob

prob. 6 heaped ,I know 1 heaped will load my little 10 wheeler and 1.5 brian in PA 's tri-axle

Espeefan
02-20-2012, 02:51 PM
Wow, Steve. The axles are incredible. Beautifully machined scale replicas. I drool everytime I see something like this. CNC is amazing.

doodlebug
02-20-2012, 09:50 PM
prob. 6 heaped ,I know 1 heaped will load my little 10 wheeler and 1.5 brian in PA 's tri-axle

Yah, my other Mack got loaded by one out to Geneva Steel/Hecket slag pit, 1 partial scoop was 18 ton's of drain rock! LOL, Now that's a "Horse":D
I wonder where that picture is?:mad:

Cheer's, Neil.

ihbuilder
02-20-2012, 11:17 PM
thanks Nate , CNC is cool but can cost you in the back pocket quick :eek:

yea there a big 1 Neil , I use to get loaded by a 992 with a spade nose in an old coal pit where they were crushing the lime stone over burden . 1 corner of the bucket 12ton for my lil 12' box . was something to see a tire higher then my cab :eek:

fixed my wheel jig :) thought I would never use this

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1866.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1864.jpg

10" face mill that came with the machine heavy as heck so you set it on the table and bring the spindle down to it

B-Train Hauler
02-21-2012, 07:29 AM
Wow! Great job on these axles! As we said before, CNC is a thing, the man behind is another one ;) This loader will be a beast, can't wait to see it works!

ihbuilder
03-14-2012, 07:05 PM
thanks B-train

I'm testing pic quality see what you guys think :o

Old

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_1882.jpg

new

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/9903.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/9901.jpg

JAMMER
03-14-2012, 08:27 PM
Steve that is coming along nicely sense the last time I saw it. Ed

Stepside
03-14-2012, 09:08 PM
wowza! great work! :D

9W Monighan
03-14-2012, 09:22 PM
I guess that program I told you about worked.

ihbuilder
03-14-2012, 09:38 PM
I guess that program I told you about worked.

It was funny it just made the pic look like a broken windshield :confused: I ended up tracing the logo and scaling it down . I got a new cam :eek::eek: the logo is only .02 deep . I never had a pic that showed the detail like that :eek: got a lil tripod too , big help ;)

thanks Ed , Rod should be able to load trucks in june ( I hope )

RCP57
03-15-2012, 12:20 AM
That really looks awesome. I love the Cat logo and grill!

Reg

Espeefan
03-15-2012, 02:09 AM
That's looking mighty fine, Steve! The new camera seems to be a good improvement over the old. At least we can see what you are building now! :) So how long before you start mass producing these 990 loaders?

D8R
03-15-2012, 04:26 AM
Wow. looks good Steve!
Guess has to talk to Santa already today, a new mill would be great.
Suggestion for moderators, with all those fantastic builds coming now built with CNC, maybee there should be a special headline for CNC tech/questions (under RC Tech section??)

Will follow this build closely!
Dan

ihbuilder
03-15-2012, 08:09 AM
That's looking mighty fine, Steve! The new camera seems to be a good improvement over the old. At least we can see what you are building now! :) So how long before you start mass producing these 990 loaders?

IDK Nate , right now it's my escape from making truck parts who knows maybe down the road someday , as for cat , not sure , depends on them :confused: right now I'm building the machines for me :o .

thanks Reg . Dan cnc not easy as it seems :eek: I can't imagine starting on cnc machining without some manual machining experience :eek:

Brian in PA
03-15-2012, 09:17 AM
Dude that is too cool!!!

MACK Daddy
03-15-2012, 10:08 AM
**** Steve Every Build of Yours outdoes the next one

keeping an eye on this one


Alfy

RCLogger
03-15-2012, 12:02 PM
Very nice build Steve. The grill is waycool. Keep the photo's coming..

greg

modelman
03-15-2012, 02:51 PM
Looking good steve-Looks like you have that c-n-c stuff down pat:D. Since I am older I always think back to the days when machinist were doing this kind of work with manual machines before c-n-c was even thought about. Don't get me wrong,the work you are doing is fantastic but I now have a greater appreciation for the older machinist. Looking forward to seeing this model working.

ihbuilder
03-17-2012, 10:19 PM
Thank you Guys :)

I took a break this afternoon from cuttin wheel holes and finished up my spool carriers for my axles :o This way makes for ease of adjustment between the ring and pinion :D I would've like to have splined axle shafts , but this will do for now :(

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/9904.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/9905.jpg

mazdaparts
03-17-2012, 11:13 PM
Nice craftsmanship on the carrier and the whole project as well. I can't wait to see it moving dirt or rock.

B-Train Hauler
03-18-2012, 03:40 PM
Wow, love this groove for the big gear... :cool:
There's a good exemple of the difference between the new cnc users that can make "parts" and the real machinist in real control of the process...
Can't wait to see next steps :)

hauler_10-4
03-18-2012, 04:02 PM
Wow excellent craftmenship Steve. Love the new clearer and brighter pics. Keep the updates coming.

ihbuilder
04-12-2012, 06:46 PM
thank you , guys ;)

I've been dabling here and there on this trying to keep at it to finish :o

I made a few things agian in betwwen TRYING to get ppls stuff done . As for the cnc , there are days I just want to yank it out of the shop :mad: I miss REAL hand wheels :eek:

deck plate

should've been able to let this go for 3hrs and do somethin else , but no , had to brake the program up into 5 programs :mad: the program was more then the mill memory storage on the mill and for some freak reason the DNC link would not werk this time :mad: oh well it's done 1400 holes :eek:

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0086.jpg

oil tank

somethings are best done manually saves on extra werk :( notice welded up hole :( ( thanks to Smokin Joe for Tig :) ) I still need more practice :o

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0094-1.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0088.jpg

Pump from Vanisle :) thanks Richard :) the robbe valves come as a bolt together unit for multiple valves . I'm going to make a 1 peice base when I get a free moment in th VMC

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0089.jpg

I got so disgusted with the shop 1 evening and roughed in the cab

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0090.jpg

I got a DRO for my lathe a couple months back . So I thought over easter I could get it put on :rolleyes: Well , I hope to finish it in the early morning tomorrow Ad be back at it learning how to think differently again :eek::rolleyes:

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0092.jpg

MACK Daddy
04-12-2012, 07:12 PM
Monumental build steve...5 stars on this thread....Keep up the good work

Alfy

Espeefan
04-12-2012, 08:43 PM
Steve, how did you ever become the machinist you are today? Was this something you did for a living, or just something you started playing around with, and self-taught yourself? Cause you're doing a fine job, and it's working for you.

ihbuilder
04-13-2012, 02:55 AM
Nate , CNC machining is self taught and is a long rough road :eek: manuel machining some of both started at age of 13 on 12 x 48 hendy lathe keeping the equipment running . My dad is a ME , so I got some basics from him . Mostly , understand how something is made and how a machine tool functions with an open mind with a can do attitude .I still want a good manual mill bad :eek: . I should add I'm an operator , I cut my teeth on a "60's" 310 case dozer started full time At age of 13 on a IH TD7E :rolleyes: and still operate it to this day . We did our own repairs and attachment making . the 310 case is the only 1 to my knowledge with a 6 way blade

thanks Alfy

back to werk :o;)

9W Monighan
04-13-2012, 05:25 AM
Don't you hate long load times and with these old controls. Did you repeat incrementally? Rather than separate event. But you did have 1400 holes I guess that would take up some memory that needed broken down.

ihbuilder
04-13-2012, 05:35 AM
Don't you hate long load times and with these old controls. Did you repeat incrementally? Rather than separate event. But you did have 1400 holes I guess that would take up some memory that needed broken down.

I broke it in segments (1 group of holes at a time ) the program was close to 200,000 megs or gigs IIRC . something that long I usually run it right off the floppy drive via DNC ( as the manual calls it ) it just been terminating part way through the program lately . could be the floppy drive . I guess I'm gona have to get that usb conversion :eek::rolleyes: the older mill I have to load it manually :eek: it use to have a tape reader that went bad . you know ,1 made from nonobtainium :rolleyes:

pugs
04-13-2012, 05:42 AM
Looking good Steve.

Research parametric programming (subroutines and loop calls) could probably do all them holes in a program a dozen lines of code long ;) assuming your control can do subs, loops, and variables.

Looks like should be a fun toy soon.

ihbuilder
04-13-2012, 06:05 AM
Looking good Steve.

Research parametric programming (subroutines and loop calls) could probably do all them holes in a program a dozen lines of code long ;) assuming your control can do subs, loops, and variables.

Looks like should be a fun toy soon.

I haven't got there yet :o it's not that old according to my age :p it's a cent 6 control prob. 1st gen there's so much to learn yet . :eek: I hope so (soon ) I've been trying to get some construction equip going for awhile now . life just gets in the way more times then not :confused:

steamer
04-13-2012, 07:09 AM
Loaders looking real good Steve. Just think if you had to drill all those holes by hand it would have taken three weeks.
Rob

Vanisle
04-13-2012, 07:34 AM
Wow, that's pretty impressive. When I see how much work goes into a project, I feel less bad about not making time on my own stuff. I like those holes but I would hate to do them manually with a DRO.

RCLogger
04-13-2012, 10:36 AM
Keep up the grreat work Steve, it is going to be able to move some serious material. Alot of pump in there...

greg

td9clyde
04-13-2012, 12:50 PM
awsome job on ur loader keep up the great work

ihbuilder
04-13-2012, 04:55 PM
thanks guys ;) I just checked the specs on my motor 2HP at 24v @94.5 in/lbs of torque with out the planetary gear box which brings it to 550 in/lbs of torque . It draws 2.6 amp no load , 68 amp nominal , and 190 amp stall . But I'm only running 12v on it . Soo , now how to figure the esc :confused: just get the 1 rated for the motor specs @24v to be safe ? Or could I get away with a lower rating / 12v is all I'll ever need in power on this thing :eek: It can fill the bucket going straight into a pile of pea coal like nothing on 12v. Pea coal is about the size of scale R8 and up rock which is more then expected for this machine to handle . I was told I'd be fine with a 1/10 cc sidewinder sv2 but I just want to make sure . I'm still green when it comes too electric motors :o . I might do my cab in brass as I got some of that laying around ;) .
I'm gettin antsy , I'll actually have a piece of equipment running via RC :D

9W Monighan
04-13-2012, 05:11 PM
Higher voltage means lower amperage.

doodlebug
04-13-2012, 05:13 PM
Hey Steve, do you have any way to measure motor amp's? Maybe an inline fuse on the drive motor lead's? Car stereo one's should be big enough (battery cable version)
Can't wait to see video!

Cheer's, Neil.

bigTdozer
04-14-2012, 08:02 AM
What ring and pinion gears are you using?

Espeefan
04-14-2012, 09:48 AM
Digital multi-meters work good for current draw readings. You just put them into the circuit, in series, with whatever you want to get a measurement on. Or you get a clamp on meter that can do DC amps.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLMV0&P=ML

I also bought a Watt's Up meter. It also goes in series with your load. Pretty cool little device, but I haven't used it much. Kind of a neat little toy to play with. Just to see what kind of load your motors are drawing. It also monitors battery voltage too at the same time.

doodlebug
04-14-2012, 02:00 PM
Digital multi-meters work good for current draw readings. You just put them into the circuit, in series, with whatever you want to get a measurement on. Or you get a clamp on meter that can do DC amps.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLMV0&P=ML

I also bought a Watt's Up meter. It also goes in series with your load. Pretty cool little device, but I haven't used it much. Kind of a neat little toy to play with. Just to see what kind of load your motors are drawing. It also monitors battery voltage too at the same time.

Interesting! Look's like "big bang for the buck!" thank's for sharing that.
Cheer's, Neil.

cabrover
04-14-2012, 02:44 PM
Looking great Steve!!:cool:I will be watching this project!!!:D

Tim

RCTech9
04-14-2012, 06:57 PM
Cant wait to see it moving dirt! The front of the Cab looks spot on!

D8R
04-15-2012, 05:24 AM
Always nice to see those big loaders. This one is coming together very nice, looking forward to the rest of it.
Dan

ihbuilder
04-20-2012, 05:46 PM
well I'm going to sping for the big esc for this and run it on 24v I got the room for the batteries yet :eek: meanwhile , I got some robbe valves from Richard with the pumps . Of course I didn't like the why they go together :rolleyes: + It seems you need end pieces also for the ein /aus ( supply and return ) Well , I made a new base :) ( now lets see how long it sits till I get taps :eek: ) arhh , must have a bur on the vice :( now I gotta plane the 1 side again :( we'll see how these hold up :confussed: I may find some ci bar to remake the alumminum parts . I'm not to keen on steel on aluminum :confused:

Robbe valve

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0100.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0101.jpg

new base block

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0102.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0103.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0104.jpg

well thats it for now , vice comes off , set up for next parts run :eek:

mazdaparts
04-20-2012, 05:55 PM
That block looks great.

pugs
04-20-2012, 06:56 PM
Nice looking work. You got cnc, get a couple threadmills ;)

RCP57
04-20-2012, 06:59 PM
Hey didn't I just assemble that yesterday?:D Looks good!

Reg

ihbuilder
04-20-2012, 07:00 PM
Nice looking work. You got cnc, get a couple threadmills ;)

can you get them for 2mm ? I know you can for 5mm

" Hey didn't I just assemble that yesterday? Looks good! "

LOL :p

pugs
04-20-2012, 07:33 PM
Oh yeah, that small might be tough to find. I pretty much only use them for over 1/2", all pipe threads and specials. Makes the best sealing pipe threads :D

ihbuilder
04-29-2012, 05:13 PM
:o:o got the oil tank on finally and the left side compartment . :o I should've used the lil tri-pod for the pics :o

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0125.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0123.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0116.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0120.jpg

thanks for looking

Espeefan
04-29-2012, 05:18 PM
I get goosebumps looking at this thing. Love the rear tire squat! What a beast!

kerst
04-30-2012, 05:38 AM
Looks great!

kerst

dirtpusher9
05-06-2012, 04:35 PM
The loader is looking great Steve, if your not careful it is going to weigh as mush as my dozer.

caterpillar
05-09-2012, 04:57 AM
woaw! truly amazed by this professional built. just wonder how you get to the drawings to steer the CNC machines. are this self made in cad? looks phenomenal!

ihbuilder
05-10-2012, 10:05 PM
The loader is looking great Steve, if your not careful it is going to weigh as mush as my dozer.

thanks Joe , heh heh :o I think it's getting close :eek: for some reason , I can't make anything light :confused:

I get goosebumps looking at this thing. Love the rear tire squat! What a beast!

aw , it's not that scary :p the rear tires just need some more air :p thanks Nate ;)

Looks great!

kerst

thanks Kerst


woaw! truly amazed by this professional built. just wonder how you get to the drawings to steer the CNC machines. are this self made in cad? looks phenomenal!

Thanks Cat , 1st it started as a pic from the sales brochure imported into auto-cad , scaled to 1:14 scale , many hrs. of tracing and tuning up the tracing . 2nd ,many hrs. of design of all the components as an assembly .
3rd , break the assembly into parts , duplicate where needed , place parts of same thickness on that certain thickness plate in such a way as to min. waste . keep in mind I'm doing all my designs in 2D :eek: . 4th import part plate file to cam , hrs. of programing ( for me any way ) , simulate to make sure everything is what you want (IMPORTANT) double check , triple check , maybe quad check :eek: . 5th, load file in machine and set up (IMPORTANT) double check , triple check , maybe quad check :eek: 6th , push green button and watch crunching action in blink of eye :eek::eek::mad::mad::mad: only if you DID NOT , double check , triple check , maybe quad check :eek:. As you can see this CNC thing has and still is a rough road for me yet :eek: I still like hand cranks , but , with what I can do on the VMC now , this CNC thing is catching on :D .

dabears
05-10-2012, 10:35 PM
Thanks Cat , 1st it started as a pic from the sales brochure imported into auto-cad , scaled to 1:14 scale , many hrs. of tracing and tuning up the tracing . 2nd ,many hrs. of design of all the components as an assembly .
3rd , break the assembly into parts , duplicate where needed , place parts of same thickness on that certain thickness plate in such a way as to min. waste . keep in mind I'm doing all my designs in 2D :eek: . 4th import part plate file to cam , hrs. of programing ( for me any way ) , simulate to make sure everything is what you want (IMPORTANT) double check , triple check , maybe quad check :eek: . 5th, load file in machine and set up (IMPORTANT) double check , triple check , maybe quad check :eek: 6th , push green button and watch crunching action in blink of eye :eek::eek::mad::mad::mad: only if you DID NOT , double check , triple check , maybe quad check :eek:. As you can see this CNC thing has and still is a rough road for me yet :eek: I still like hand cranks , but , with what I can do on the VMC now , this CNC thing is catching on :D .


:eek::eek::confused::confused: I think ill stick to styrene!! It amazes me still how you guys can take a picture and crank out a part that looks perfect like that!!! WOW!!! This loader is looking bad a$$!! :cool:

ihbuilder
05-20-2012, 10:34 PM
A few pics of to days carnage :eek::o I made a bunch of brass shavings and a few parts :o (cylinders :D) not quite done :( ran outa day :( + the groving bar I made with major inferior material didn't werk :( so I gotta order 1 :rolleyes: Need to cut the ID seal grooves in the glands . I also got the front drive shaft hooked up last evening . I also remade the engine hood . the 1st was made from scrap panel from a delivery van which didn't bend to well without breaking ( not 6061 ) so I picked up a peice of .125" 6061 sheet and re ran it . No pics of the new 1 , forgot that pic :o .

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0143.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0139.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0141.jpg

thanks fer looking ;)

hood in the back ground of this pic

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0129.jpg

ihbuilder
06-17-2012, 11:45 PM
just a few pics of what I've been pecking away at here and there . I know my copper lines are ugly :o but lets see howw all werks then I might make them purtier ;)

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0187.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0193.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0188.jpg

remade the deck plate since the 1st looked like dog poo after tryin to weld the rim around . So I milled it out of .75 " plate

old
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0190.jpg

new
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0192.jpg

oil vent/fill
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0196.jpg

for size comparison . I have it sitting on a 24" x 12" x 1.625" plate in the mill

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0149.jpg

thanks fer lookin ;) back too the grindstone :eek:

Trackerman
06-18-2012, 02:15 AM
IH,
can you show some detailed photos of the end seals for the rams you have made and give an indication of the physical size along with whether you had any issues with leaks etc. Love the build, looks awesome.

Cheers

Trackerman

D8R
06-18-2012, 03:38 AM
Oh, like that last picture, start with a big chunk of alu and a good CNC machine, minutes later a ready 990, ha ha.

The model looks realy good, have had a special eye on the big one since building the 992 over 30 years ago. Not so many projects on wheel loaders, maybee because of availibility of ready to run models.

What program are you using when drawing? Is it possible to get an description of the different steps involved from drawing to machined part?

Dan

9W Monighan
06-18-2012, 08:06 AM
Nice to see someone getting work done. Now I can see a better view of what you texed me last week.

dabears
06-18-2012, 12:30 PM
Looks great!

modelman
06-18-2012, 12:32 PM
Nice work steve-looks like you are making some progress.

9W Monighan
06-18-2012, 10:50 PM
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0149.jpg

WELL IF YOU GET PISSED ABOUT THIS MODEL IF THE SCALE IS OFF, JUST RAPID Z ONTO THE TOP:eek: AND SHORTEN IT SOME

Supermario
06-19-2012, 03:36 AM
now thats a beautiful lookin 990 Steve! I should know, I work for a Cat dealership and as a matter of fact there is a 990 in our shop this very moment. Good loader, its been working at this mine for over 15 yrs now.... I did a complete rebuild of this machine twice now over the years....kinda funny, I wish I could build em but I just fix em. If you need any more measurements or pics, just let me know and I'll send ya what you need, I know this machine inside out.

Mario

Supermario
06-19-2012, 03:43 AM
Here she is....

ihbuilder
06-19-2012, 09:27 AM
now thats a beautiful lookin 990 Steve! I should know, I work for a Cat dealership and as a matter of fact there is a 990 in our shop this very moment. Good loader, its been working at this mine for over 15 yrs now.... I did a complete rebuild of this machine twice now over the years....kinda funny, I wish I could build em but I just fix em. If you need any more measurements or pics, just let me know and I'll send ya what you need, I know this machine inside out.

Mario

thanks Mario :) 1 key problem area is the Z link :confused: I couldn't get good measurements off my scaled pic of all pin centers .I'm not a 100% sure I have it correct :confused: Looks like I should've punched vent holes in the hood too :o , looks like hood #3 in the future or a funky fixture to get hood #2 right . I kind of liked the 990G stacks instead of the stock year I went off like in the pic you have here . Thats a good pic of the fire suppression ;) , the 1st deck plate I put it right be hind the cab :confused: which I'm using to disguise the pressure relief valve . Also good cabin interior would be great ;) .

Supermario
06-20-2012, 04:03 AM
I hope thumbnail pics work for now. I'm using my company laptop and I dont have photo bucket yet. We currently have the steer joystick apart and its not in the photos. I can get better pics of the Z arm once machine is back up and running. Currently have the bucket held back with a few wire cables just in case we have to pull it out of the shop. I took a quick measurement of the z arm... distance from center of top pin to center is 41 1/2" . Distance from bottom pin to center is 52".
Like I say, once she's up and running I'll get some better pics for ya.
I also sent the pics to my home computer and can send them to you from there when I get back at the end of the month.
Have a great day!
Mario

Supermario
06-20-2012, 04:37 AM
I guess a 994 for your next project is out of the question ? lol . the thing would weigh a ton eh?

ihbuilder
06-20-2012, 07:58 AM
I hope thumbnail pics work for now. I'm using my company laptop and I dont have photo bucket yet. We currently have the steer joystick apart and its not in the photos. I can get better pics of the Z arm once machine is back up and running. Currently have the bucket held back with a few wire cables just in case we have to pull it out of the shop. I took a quick measurement of the z arm... distance from center of top pin to center is 41 1/2" . Distance from bottom pin to center is 52".
Like I say, once she's up and running I'll get some better pics for ya.
I also sent the pics to my home computer and can send them to you from there when I get back at the end of the month.
Have a great day!
Mario

I'll PM you my email then you can send the pics there Big help on the z already:) .I have the top center-center right but the bottom is too short . Looks like a new to be made :o the 1 I have is too short :( . It was the only part that was distorted from what I had to go by .

ihbuilder
06-20-2012, 07:07 PM
I guess a 994 for your next project is out of the question ? lol . the thing would weigh a ton eh?

I missed this 1 this morning :rolleyes: thou shalt not jest :D I doo know where to get that size tire :D BUT I have a few projects to finish 1st :eek:+ a few in line :eek:

took a little break before pulling the vise(make shift indexer :o) off the mill . milled up the steering cylinder bosses . I used the step block and clamp to hold my 0 position :o .


http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0202.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0204.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0209.jpg

Oh thanks again Mario ;)

new 1scaled to your measurements
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0211.jpg

old on new
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0212.jpg

Lil Giants
06-21-2012, 07:00 AM
Doesn't take you long to carve out parts anymore Steve.. must be a great level of satisfaction to do things quickly & correctly, eh? :)

ihbuilder
06-21-2012, 11:47 PM
Doesn't take you long to carve out parts anymore Steve.. must be a great level of satisfaction to do things quickly & correctly, eh? :)

YES it does , Joe :D I love learning new things ;) before 3 years ago I never touched a mill in my life except for looking at them at the salvage yard / liquidater . I can't wait to get this going :D I also got 1 of my micro pumps figured out . to put in the pan ;) the Jung is just to big for it (very little space ) So If my cylinders work out I'll be making up the 1's for the pan and dozer sometime after indy .

Supermario
06-22-2012, 04:27 AM
My pleasure Steve. Glad I could help with the Z arm. Looks good! Can't wait to see her running!

Shane
06-22-2012, 02:40 PM
Gidday Steve.

Hey Mate, can't offer any advise though I can add to the list of many readers who have praised you on your efforts.
What a fantastic looking model and to see it comming together is a trip in itself.

Totally impressed of what can be made with the "Can Do Attitude"

Can imagine what the guys that work on or operate this machine would be thinking.

Awsome craftmanship Steve.

Shane.

Supermario
06-25-2012, 03:36 AM
Gidday Steve.

Hey Mate, can't offer any advise though I can add to the list of many readers who have praised you on your efforts.
What a fantastic looking model and to see it comming together is a trip in itself.

Totally impressed of what can be made with the "Can Do Attitude"

Can imagine what the guys that work on or operate this machine would be thinking.

Awsome craftmanship Steve.

Shane.

yeah Shane, I work on this type of loader and what I think is " wow ! I wish I could build'em like Steve."
Seeing as I can't , I like to try and help people like him get the info he needs to continue his work of art....and thats what this machine is.... a work of art!

Mario

ihbuilder
06-30-2012, 06:24 PM
Thanks Mario ;) , Shane

well we made it to Z bar #4 :eek: and what a !@#$ it was al the way :eek: Guess thats what I get for staying up till 4 in the AM a week ago gettin it right :eek: turns out the loader arms where too small too :mad: So remade them too and thanks too having a tig the whole loader arm assmb. got welded together ;) I still want to clean up the weld a lil better in the mill . I couldn't resist a lil paint on it either :o . made my Y's the old way drill press hand mill (file) and vise doo too both mills being setup for other ops . nuff BS here's some pics :o

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0220.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0221.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0223.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0224.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0222.jpg

I want to clean up my bucket a little more with the tig so gotta sand blast it . Pool noodle did the trick on the tires ;)

rc_farmer
06-30-2012, 06:44 PM
Wow, Steve, that looks great!

ihbuilder
06-30-2012, 09:07 PM
thanks Rob :)


ALMOST:D:D:D gotta figgure the mixing on the radidio and change out a leaky robbie valve head :( the tolorences on these things are pathetic , must be +/- .01 :eek: with a little tinkering you can get them to work right , except for the 1 where it leaked right out the rotor stem . they should be a running fit with no sidw to side play . I got bucket and steering werkin :D just waitin on the slow lathe guy to get my new rams for the lift cylinders done :rolleyes:

ihbuilder
07-01-2012, 10:12 AM
werking!!!:D:D:o:o figured out the mixing just alittle reading of the manual :rolleyes:pump is on my aux1(flaps)chl . I got the steering so that when you activate the steer servo the pump runs about 50% to werk the boom/bucket put the pump switch in mid position for about 50% for guts , switch in 3rd pos. As for the valves , they're like a HD gotta tweek them when they're new and after so many mi /hrs :eek::p

Snochaser
07-01-2012, 11:29 AM
Way to go Steve, it can be quite frustrating I know. It makes it all worth it when it comes alive though. WOOHOO Now video please!!!!

ihbuilder
07-01-2012, 01:05 PM
will do Ben In the pea gravel too ;):rolleyes::D

dabears
07-01-2012, 02:18 PM
Man Steve that looks great!!! youve done an awesome job with it so far!

ihbuilder
07-07-2012, 12:35 PM
thanks Aaron

to answer Mario's ? from the trailer build . I was digging pea gravel well except for the mixing thing with the radio . the pump would always go down to the steering settings and wouldn't have the hair to pick up a full bucket . So I just put the pump full on or full off :D then moved the coal pile twice till I blew the clipard cylinder I used for steering well It was leaking right off the bat but desided to leak alot more :confused: no vid :o will get 1 soon I hope :o right now I'm trying to make new steer cylinders and my own spool type valve . I hate these robbies :eek: it's not the style I hate just the tolerances are piss poor . you tighten them to eliminate the bypassing then you can't turn them :eek:. I had brass bushings (not oil lite )that I made for my axle shafts while waiting for bearings , well they started to sieze up :rolleyes:so in went the bearings . easiest set of axles I worked on to date ;)not to mention tough as carbide , so to speak :D

Supermario
07-07-2012, 07:59 PM
Thanks for the update Steve, very nice of you..........oooops, have I struck a cord of frustration? Hydraulics causing grief ?... Welcome to my world of fixing....not building :)
there is no doubt you will figure it out.

Can't wait to see more!.......

Mario

jtroyer06
07-09-2012, 07:47 PM
Wow that model is built like a tank! Great build keep it up!!!

ihbuilder
07-09-2012, 10:36 PM
Thanks for the update Steve, very nice of you..........oooops, have I struck a cord of frustration? Hydraulics causing grief ?... Welcome to my world of fixing....not building :)
there is no doubt you will figure it out.

Can't wait to see more!.......

Mario

yea they're fustrating but heck , with the few leaks and no bosses on the boom , I can't resist useing up a battery in the pea gravel we put down in the play area for the kids :rolleyes:. I'll get a vid up someday :o I gotta figure out how to take 1 on the new cam :o I'm may start painting it soon .

Wow that model is built like a tank! Great build keep it up!!!

thanks much , it wieghs like 1 too :eek:

td9clyde
07-10-2012, 06:53 PM
it is cool when the equipment starts moving and twitching makes it fun and frusterating but it is worth it nice work steve........Izzy and Travis helped me on the D 7 but it is in peices right now ......a later story.... Can't wait to see a video and have fun digging and loading trucks

ihbuilder
07-10-2012, 10:10 PM
thanks henry I tinkered on after I ran it last night made a few small things that I could do while waiting to change parts on the mill . I got another 30 mins in tonight . 1st night with no leaks :eek::D and 20 bar . I still got little odds and ends like better linkages for the valves to see If I can get better control . vid is uploading verrrryyyyy ssssssllllllllloooooowwwwwwwlllllllllllllllyyyyyyy :(

ihbuilder
07-11-2012, 07:36 AM
first vid will not up load :( but here's 1 to show the speed ranges . you can tell which front tire has BB's in it and which does not :o need to get another 8500 BB's :rolleyes: I need to retake a vid of it moving pea gravel . might put the Mack in it too :D

http://youtu.be/PgxZjzE0MRQ

JAMMER
07-11-2012, 08:33 AM
Well Steve it is coming along nicely glad to see it moving it looks real good. Ed

Kaf343
07-11-2012, 01:31 PM
Wow, Very nice work. Lots of hours at the mill im sure.

ihbuilder
07-13-2012, 06:06 PM
Well Steve it is coming along nicely glad to see it moving it looks real good. Ed


thanks much Ed ;)

Wow, Very nice work. Lots of hours at the mill im sure.

thanks Kaf


well a little set back :( need to remake the front :( I had issues with the z link then once I got the right dimensions for that I also got the right boom , cylinder dimensions . I thought I could get away with just remaking the boom :rolleyes: but now I can't get the bucket flat on the ground :mad: I could add extensions to the boom frame work to bring the boom pivot point up , BUT that'll look like poo . Soooooooooo , re-cut time :rolleyes: but in steel :D not to worried about weight ;)

ihbuilder
07-21-2012, 08:30 PM
Oakydoaky finally goy a vid of this baby diggin :D:D:D:o now I'm not use to usin a raidio to operate :rolleyes: . Also the valves are going to take some gettin use to :rolleyes: . But I'm slowly getting the bugs werked out of er :D:D I'm going through battery quick on the pump . but thats because the radio not set up right yet . I gotta go through a 100+ pages to figure what I'm doin wrong :confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4OKBbuCmtM&feature=youtu.be

some pics of the new front from plate to assembly

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0253.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0254.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0256.jpg

since these are in the pics I'll show them ;) I just couldn't resist with the mill being idle for a couple days ;) been gettin antsy seeing a 374 and the start of a 390 soooo here's the in betweeners :D:D:D:o:o:o been planning for almost a year on them .

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0258.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0305.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0307.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0306.jpg

1 will have a mass stick and the other will have no stick but something in it's place ;)

thanks for looking :o

RCP57
07-21-2012, 10:06 PM
F in A Cotton... F in A....

Nice job Steve! All these excavators being built right now is making me want to build another one myself! I only wish I could build with that level of quality.

Reg

ihbuilder
07-22-2012, 10:05 PM
Thanks Reg , you do a fine job your self . I got that VMC to help with the parts I make for ppl , if it wasn't for that , I'd be building the same way you are with manual machines . I spent some stick time today with the loader . A lot of the probs I have is the transition from real machine control to the radio . I'm gettin it though . no vids though :o I gotta fig. why the h3!! it takes so long to upload anything anymore :mad:

RCP57
07-22-2012, 11:15 PM
Thanks Reg , you do a fine job your self . I got that VMC to help with the parts I make for ppl , if it wasn't for that , I'd be building the same way you are with manual machines . I spent some stick time today with the loader . A lot of the probs I have is the transition from real machine control to the radio . I'm gettin it though . no vids though :o I gotta fig. why the h3!! it takes so long to upload anything anymore :mad:

I have problems controlling my 955 for the same reasons, but the excavator is much easier. I have it set up with cat style controls just like my Kubota mini so as long as it's not facing me I'm not too bad... I guess if a person ran the models as much as the real machines(cough, Joe:rolleyes:) it would probably help a fair bit.

Keep up the good work!

Reg

ihbuilder
07-26-2012, 08:38 PM
As you all know , I haven't been happy with the tires available to us :rolleyes: . Sooo I've been doodling in Acad for a bit ;) this is what I came up with .

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/990TIRE-Model.jpg

I already got the mold halves drawn but vismill will not load them up for some reason :confused: might be way to complex for a cheap cam program :confused: Or I got to upgrade to pro :rolleyes:

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/990TIRE2-Model.jpg

I'm going to make some kind of home made injection molder ;) still trying to werk it out in my head :confused: werse case I'll just pour them like Tom did with his triple 7 ;)



Back to werk :eek:

dabears
07-26-2012, 10:28 PM
I cant wait to see how those turn out!!

Stepside
07-26-2012, 10:28 PM
I just emailed you regarding the moldings! :cool:

ihbuilder
07-26-2012, 11:29 PM
I just emailed you regarding the moldings! :cool:

emailed you back ;)

spudd
07-27-2012, 12:16 PM
green and red tires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! only you would have that lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ihbuilder
07-27-2012, 01:40 PM
green and red tires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! only you would have that lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK so you want purple with pink polka dots :rolleyes:

spudd
07-27-2012, 02:52 PM
OK so you want purple with pink polka dots :rolleyes:

then thay would match your bra and panties!!!!!!!!!!!!

Snochaser
07-27-2012, 03:05 PM
I didn't think Steve wore those. Commando!

ihbuilder
07-27-2012, 03:48 PM
then thay would match your bra and panties!!!!!!!!!!!!

YA GET MY STUFF SHIPPED YET ??????????:rolleyes: BESIDE you really shouldn't talk about what you like to ware on the open INTERNET :eek::eek::rolleyes::rolleyes:

ihbuilder
08-19-2012, 09:04 PM
didn't make indy or nat. pike shows so I spent a few hrs movin packed sand and #57 gravel mix . the remnants from pouring my shop floor a couple years ago . no vids :o I attached all the teeth 1st , boy this thing can dig :D . 1st pic shows the reason for the 12 lbs counter weight has at least that in the bucket .
I hope to get some primer this week when I go out for appointments . I'm just reluctant to tear it down to paint like the mack :o they work :o

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/8191.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/8192.jpg

glorydays24
08-19-2012, 11:50 PM
Looking good working Steve.:D:D It's going to be a beast.:eek::eek::eek:

Big John

rockNmayhem
08-20-2012, 06:35 PM
Steve the loaders lookin great. The tires however are looking just a little on the squishy side of the spectrum with that 24lb load on them.

Tyler

dabears
08-20-2012, 06:46 PM
Looks great Steve!! That thing is a work horse for sure!

ihbuilder
09-02-2012, 03:22 AM
Thank you guys :) Tyler , I still need to fill them , I was recommended a certain type of expandable foam used in auto-body to fill them that still gives a little . I just didn't get to my auto-body supply to get it yet (my primer too :o ) . I updated the software(?) in my radio . now all my mixes work properly :) . Here's a few of me stock piling stone (scale R4 rip rap ;)) using my m12 batteries . I'm getting longer run times /charge now . Also , this is a great way to get rid of a yellow jacket nest and not get stung :D:eek: no vid though :o . the kid got stung friday by them just "walkin" (So he said:rolleyes:)by the bush they decided to build their nest under on the far side of the pool .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6drW6jqm7zo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVn8pXF6JQA

looks like i might have to get 1 of those go-Pro's (?) someday

dabears
09-02-2012, 09:42 AM
Videos looked great!! That loader is a beast!

CrewCab59
09-02-2012, 09:20 PM
I just found a 2 part foam used in Wheelbarrow wheels, it's softer than what they used in skid steer tire. I have some samples on the way to try out.It's around 5.50 per lb plus ship.

ihbuilder
09-02-2012, 10:09 PM
I just found a 2 part foam used in Wheelbarrow wheels, it's softer than what they used in skid steer tire. I have some samples on the way to try out.It's around 5.50 per lb plus ship.

you got a link ?

CrewCab59
09-03-2012, 08:45 AM
you got a link ?

Sorry about that, I picked up the card at the tire dealer. www.airfreetires.com

Thanks

Supermario
09-03-2012, 04:35 PM
Hey Steve :) been watching your progress and this baby is digging just like the real machine :D:D I see tires have been an issue your working through. I'm sure you saw it coming when you changed from aluminum to steel frame. I know you'll get it resolved . Can I make one suggestion..... The bucket function seems really, really fast. If you could slow down the bucket function it may give a better impression of the real size and scale of it. With 20+ tons in the bucket, you really don't want a snappy fast function I tell ya:eek: :)

Mario

ihbuilder
09-03-2012, 10:29 PM
Thanks , Mario :) I'm pleased with it except a few little bugs ( valves & tires ) I was informed , that to use this machine in the rubber pits , I'll have to put a GP straight edge bucket on it or I may tear up the carpet :eek::rolleyes::D at indy next year .

Supermario
09-04-2012, 05:17 PM
Thanks , Mario :) I'm pleased with it except a few little bugs ( valves & tires ) I was informed , that to use this machine in the rubber pits , I'll have to put a GP straight edge bucket on it or I may tear up the carpet :eek::rolleyes::D at indy next year .

Lol
You better not tear up the carpet at the Marriott !! They might not let us return or worse yet, impound all our toys until the carpet is paid for. :eek::D

I just had a crazy thought.....:eek: Could you make bucket teeth that would mount to actual shanks? The teeth could be cast out of some softer metal and actually wear out depending the material your in ??? ....I know, crazy.

That loader digging rubber pellets ??? Hope you got a big coal bucket for it:D load a truck in 3 scoops:cool:

ihbuilder
09-04-2012, 05:31 PM
Lol
You better not tear up the carpet at the Marriott !! They might not let us return or worse yet, impound all our toys until the carpet is paid for. :eek::D

I just had a crazy thought.....:eek: Could you make bucket teeth that would mount to actual shanks? The teeth could be cast out of some softer metal and actually wear out depending the material your in ??? ....I know, crazy.

That loader digging rubber pellets ??? Hope you got a big coal bucket for it:D load a truck in 3 scoops:cool:

I'm going to try :D but with steel :eek: . I'll wear them out here :eek: yea it'll load Brian's green bucket in 3 scoops:D . About 6-7 for my big Mack .

td9clyde
09-04-2012, 06:49 PM
looks great to me wouldn't worry about the carpet just put plastic teeth covers on :)

ihbuilder
10-03-2012, 07:46 PM
well the loader blew apart :eek: so I decided to paint it (well let ol earl do it for $99.95 :p:p ) still putting it back together and waiting on some cylinders for the steering . the clippard 1's just didn't werk out to well and my lathe time is precious :eek:

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0472.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/DSCN0476.jpg

Supermario
10-03-2012, 09:01 PM
Sorry to hear she blew up ! :eek: but, looks like in the end , good things come from bad events . Can't wait to see it assembled. ( I say assembled now cuz I hate the words " it's done " ....lol

Looks good Steve, money well spent on the paint job:)

Mario

ihbuilder
10-06-2012, 10:09 PM
I guess a 994 for your next project is out of the question ? lol . the thing would weigh a ton eh?

Mario , I think I'm goin crazy :eek: this loader is in my thoughts lately as I'm finishing the 990 :eek:

Claus
10-07-2012, 07:51 AM
Wow! All those yellow parts look as good as any factory built kit. Bravo.

Supermario
10-07-2012, 10:07 AM
Mario , I think I'm goin crazy :eek: this loader is in my thoughts lately as I'm finishing the 990 :eek:

Are they good thoughts of how well the build would be , or are they thoughts of how much of a nightmare building a 994 could be:eek: lol

Are you still considering making bucket teeth for the 990 or will the 994 come with removable bucket tips.:D

Mario

RCP57
10-07-2012, 10:09 AM
So now that you have perfected your painting skills is the Mack rolling into the paint booth next?:p

ihbuilder
10-07-2012, 11:02 AM
So now that you have perfected your painting skills is the Mack rolling into the paint booth next?:p

yea ;) i would've did both together but I want them both together in 2 weeks ;)

mario , good thoughts I just need 11" tires :eek: yes on the caps for the 990 I just gotta get done cuttin aluminum or just shut down on it for a bit to clean the aluminum out of the mill for steel cutting . I don't want to mix the 2

Craig , I wouldn't call it a pro job , As the title states Earl S paint job for now ;) it started getting cold here before I got to paint it . I was hoping to paint 2 other models at the same time (all cats) ;)

dabears
10-07-2012, 11:31 AM
I think it looks good! Sucks it blew up but maybe it did for a reason? It wanted paint :) hmmm 11" tires? what are you thinking of converting it into? Now put it back together so we can see the showroom new look. :eek:

ihbuilder
10-07-2012, 12:53 PM
? , you guys really think it blew up :confused: :rolleyes::rolleyes: :p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p 11" tires belong on a 994 not this little loader ;)

Claus
10-07-2012, 03:08 PM
yea ;) Craig , I wouldn't call it a pro job , As the title states Earl S paint job for now ;) it started getting cold here before I got to paint it . I was hoping to paint 2 other models at the same time (all cats)
;)

Steve wasn't just looking at the paint job, the parts you have fabricated look like a factory built job. I never though a home brewed loader would looks so good. Again nice job!

ihbuilder
10-07-2012, 04:10 PM
Almost back together :D

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/9908.jpg

plow jockey
10-07-2012, 05:05 PM
That loader looks crazy awesome with some paint on it.Excellent fab work.

Lil Giants
10-07-2012, 09:50 PM
Well that loader has certainly come a long way in the last yr! It's gonna be a treat to see in St Louis. :cool:

It occured to me just now that a possible filler to harden up your tires would be moisten sawdust! That would pack in real good, wouldn't be noisy & still give the tire reasonably good flex.

dabears
10-07-2012, 11:22 PM
WOW its looking killer!!

JAMMER
10-08-2012, 09:24 AM
Looks real good Steve it's amazing what a little paint will do. Ed

SmallHaul
10-08-2012, 11:23 AM
Wow! It looks great all painted up nice work.

td9clyde
10-09-2012, 07:36 AM
Looks great !!! it is fun when you get your equipment running and you can move dirt and what ever else you might push

rockNmayhem
10-09-2012, 11:33 PM
Steve the loader is looking great going back together and with paint on it as well. I can't wait to see it running.

Tyler

ihbuilder
10-10-2012, 12:36 AM
thanks guys :o it's far from perfect :( I still have to finish the new lift cylinders so I can get the proper dump hight . But with a lil ramp I can load the M75SX . The lil dirt bkts aren't a problem ;) still have the cab , front fenders ,railings and lights and maybe a pair of scrapper forks for picking up vehicles :D

Joe , I got some expanding foam for auto body use but I need a special gun to use it which I haven't had time to get yet . But tonight , while loading the truck for work tomorrow , I saw a roll of left over sill sealer ( like foam expansion joint ) :rolleyes: so far so good


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oh boy , beddy bye time :eek:

Espeefan
10-10-2012, 01:12 AM
Nice job, Steve. I wish I had your talent! The 990 looks really nice. It's really impressive to design and machine up a model like this. Just way cool, in my book. Something from raw materials, that ends up as functional, scale model. Worthy of some German forums, I think.

ihbuilder
10-11-2012, 12:22 AM
thanks Nate :) I think we'll get to the german level 1 day sooner then you think ;) this hobby is still pretty new here . I've had some design issues through the process which I had to remake parts mostly do to not having a good reference for scaling . the 994 will be a walk in the park do to a lot of good straight on pics


Oh it feels good to have this running :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D I just refilled the hydro tank with 10w and fired er up Runs much smoother then with ATF that I had in it for testing . I kinda cheated on the steering cylinders :o I got some 1250's from liembach .Hmm what's next to finish .:rolleyes::D:D:D

ihbuilder
10-13-2012, 08:53 PM
:):):o:o:o

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/9911.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/9912.jpg

dabears
10-13-2012, 09:14 PM
NICE!!!! I like it! You did an awesome job on it!!

RCLogger
10-13-2012, 09:39 PM
Great work
You will need a big dirt pile when that machine goes to work.

Greg

Tamiya Cowboy
10-13-2012, 10:42 PM
DANG I love It.... Nice work buddy..

kerst
10-14-2012, 07:23 AM
Looks impressive!

Kerst

Supermario
10-14-2012, 08:32 AM
Looking just like the real thing Steve :)...... Minus the stairs, railings and CAT logos:D. Air precleaners should be black eh.
So what is the GVW as it sits today??

Mario

Espeefan
10-14-2012, 01:06 PM
I can visualize the finished model, so much better with the cab pieces added. That looks great. Hurry up and paint those parts up! Nice work. Just add all the details and that model is going to look like the real thing!

D8R
10-15-2012, 09:01 AM
Nice loader!!
Will it go to Saskachevan for prototype testing during winter???
Dan

ihbuilder
10-22-2012, 09:01 PM
thanks Dan , No it'll get a more rigorous test sit right here :eek: It would've made it through the STL weekend if some dummy had put a filter on it :o:(

I had the elements sittin on the bench for weeks just never got around to making the canister :( After gettin settled back in today I spent an hour or 2 making it up tonight .

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Supermario
10-22-2012, 10:13 PM
Really Steve? Running without a filtration system? :eek: the 990 is a tough machine but, not that tough:)
How long did it run before big trouble? Scale it up and probably as long as the real thing would last with no filters:D
Thanks for posting pics from the meet...by the way....looks like I need to send ya a new CAT hat for Xmas. :);)

Mario

ihbuilder
10-22-2012, 10:17 PM
actually it ran 40 hrs before the break down :(:o Yea I forgot to pick 1 up when I was at the dealer for a battery for the 247B and my paint :o always in a hurry :rolleyes:

Supermario
10-23-2012, 07:48 PM
actually it ran 40 hrs before the break down :(:o Yea I forgot to pick 1 up when I was at the dealer for a battery for the 247B and my paint :o always in a hurry :rolleyes:

So 40 hrs X 14th scale = 560 hrs? :p:p. nahhhhh, the old girl would last longer than that! :o

Bet ya can't get one at the dealer with a Canadian maple leaf on it!:cool:
I'll get ya one. You are now on my Xmas list :D

Mario

ihbuilder
10-23-2012, 07:59 PM
well it turns out the valves are the culprit :( I knew it would happen :rolleyes: steel wearing on aluminum with piss poor tolerances . at least the filter will catch the particles till I get my valves finished . I also turned the pump around so the belt is at the back of the machine as opposed to between the main motor and pump motor . should be easier to change the belt now :rolleyes: . No , no maple leaf on our hats here .

ihbuilder
10-24-2012, 04:09 PM
o-rings came in after lunch for the filter . so I took a few min and put oil in an gave er a go :) back in bizz now :D:D will not get a vid till this wknd in the rubber pit :rolleyes: I'll have to tie up 75% of it's HP just to make it look like I'm workin it hard :p

Supermario
10-24-2012, 06:08 PM
Glad to hear she's back up and running:). You must have brought it to a CAT dealer to get such a quick repair time:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Mario

ihbuilder
11-18-2012, 09:34 PM
lil bit of me time today :eek::o
got the front fenders and light post fabed up . they came out much better in brass :D then aluminium welded :( I may mill out my own lights . these look like poo :rolleyes:

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Snochaser
11-19-2012, 08:49 AM
Aww look at those cute Lil' mudflaps, precious. :) lol

ihbuilder
01-27-2013, 03:29 PM
I was in the possible future 1300 SQ ft quarry cleaning up broken block this morning . I'm getting ready to build a rather large dbl fireplace with bread oven base . When we built the house in 97 we went with a craw space doo to not quite enough green and were not gonna live with in-laws what-so-ever . So the shop was added later with a small basement area for a furnuas room to have some real heat (coal) nuff history :o got some pics no vid batts dead on cam :mad:
lookin through the 2nd opening
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not sure I'm going to do it but it would be a nice place for a few hrs of after hr operating time :o

woodhog
01-27-2013, 03:47 PM
Fenders and lights look good now just get her finished:)

Lil Giants
01-27-2013, 04:03 PM
Is it cement floor there already?

ihbuilder
01-27-2013, 05:15 PM
yea but very rough , when we poured it had to be 1 of the hottest days :( the load came hot to begin with coupled with dry hot stones at 2 " rat slab it was all my dad and I could do to get it raked out . the ledge in the pic is half the base for the fireplace + a cap on the buttress wall. the ground here is tight close to your clays but put sand stone rocks in it . in the dry spell , it takes some time to scratch through with the 307 cat excavator I had . We hit ledge in the north east corner (straight back under the pumbing ) I'm just not sure I want to knowing whats under there . It'll sure be some model engineering fun :eek:

Supermario
01-27-2013, 05:39 PM
A heated playground for the winter!:eek::cool::cool:........lucky dog! :)

Mario

catmack
02-01-2013, 02:47 PM
I'm gonna have to build low pro mining equipment for my crawl space. At best, 18" is all I have at the high end. It would be a great project though. How heavy is the loader IHBuilder?

ihbuilder
02-01-2013, 04:29 PM
OK official weight 46.6 lbs without the cab finished . I guessed about 40-50 lbs awhile back :eek: not to far off :) ( I think I pulled somethin :eek::p ) I used to throw 50 lb seed, fertilizer, and lime bags up on a hydro seeder for years so I guess I got a feel for it :rolleyes:

I decided to go through with the basement dig :eek: can't think of any logical place to store my coal unless I start another building :eek: I can just see the township :eek: beside , I got some new machines coming on line this year :D I need a good proving ground :o .

ihbuilder
05-27-2013, 09:45 PM
started fixing another weak link today . I kept having issues with my valves sticking open and leaking :mad: The culprit p---- poor tolerances in the valve heads . The leaking was coming from a 6mm ID oring on a 5.8mm OD shaft :rolleyes: So Made new 1's out of brass . 3-4 hours setup and tweaking and 1hr run time tops between the lathe and mill .

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old
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new
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thanks for lookin

ihbuilder
06-16-2013, 10:25 PM
whew a little time in the shop with the cad off and the mill off :eek: Did some rearranging with the hydros and electrics . now I can use 2 bats and keep them under the hood :eek: . Also no more leaky valves :D the operator got a bench seat though :rolleyes:

all nice and tucked under the hood :o
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Espeefan
06-16-2013, 10:31 PM
What a beast! Are those standard sized servos in the cab, running the valves? Gives a really good feel for the size of this loader!

ihbuilder
06-16-2013, 10:42 PM
What a beast! Are those standard sized servos in the cab, running the valves? Gives a really good feel for the size of this loader!

HS 85 MG

thanks Nate , she'll do what a man and shovel will do :eek: well almost till the guy gets tired of waiting for batteries to charge :(

just getting started
06-16-2013, 10:51 PM
I spent about 2 years in an B model in another five years in a 992 G .that is amazing work and i had a real hard time telling that it was a model until I saw that the right picture :jaw:

9W Monighan
06-17-2013, 08:42 AM
Did you get the rear lightened up and tires fixed?

ihbuilder
06-17-2013, 09:29 PM
Steve, no I like to keep the weight :D but I'm thinking of doing what Reg did with his KW .
I had the cab ready for paint last night before I hit the hay so I got Earl out for a $99.95 paint job :bounce::rolleyes: , Now to see if I can get the best winders butcher to do the winders :rolleyes: . well here she is :o:o:o

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ihbuilder
06-17-2013, 09:36 PM
on a side note : those who where @ cabin fever saw this roll down the side of the pile after Scott distracted me while working on top the high wall :rolleyes:. Any how notice the FWD slant in the ROPs . I thought it look a little bit more then what it originally had :rolleyes: So took a closer look , sure enough it bent on the roll over :eek:

pugs
06-18-2013, 09:39 AM
Looks good Steve!

JAMMER
06-18-2013, 10:46 AM
Hello Steve did Earl run out of paint I see he forgot to paint the fenders? Ed

ihbuilder
06-18-2013, 12:03 PM
Hello Steve did Earl run out of paint I see he forgot to paint the fenders? Ed

yea like I said $99.95 :p

spudd
06-18-2013, 01:09 PM
Steve is just too dam cheep to do it all.

sparkycuda
06-18-2013, 03:25 PM
With the roll-over, you need to have the ROPS replaced in order to stay "legal". Somewhere, I saw a scale-sized OSHA/MSHA inspector lurking around, just waiting to nail you with a citation! But, you might be exempt since there is no operator in the cab.?.?

I really appreciate the self-made hydraulic components on this machine - great job!

Ken

9W Monighan
06-18-2013, 05:20 PM
With the roll-over, you need to have the ROPS replaced in order to stay "legal". Somewhere, I saw a scale-sized OSHA/MSHA inspector lurking around, just waiting to nail you with a citation! But, you might be exempt since there is no operator in the cab.?.?

I really appreciate the self-made hydraulic components on this machine - great job!

Ken

At our Brownsville,PA show,
A bystander who knew MSHA rules commented to me that our haul roads needed a berm:cop:. Later we found that true when one of Smallhaul's dump trucks took a trip over the side LOL.:lol: