is it a tipper or a hook lift truck

[Brel]

I have a Tamiya Mercedes delivery truck on the way to me from Hong Kong
also got a set of Knight hauler frames and middle axle for a 6X4 truck
I am going to use the knight hauler frame rails for the trucks chassis and use the original frame to re jig the front end of the frame to suit the European truck wheel base and use the rear axle and the middle axle to make it a 6X4 truck chassis and either build the upper body as a rigid tipper or buy a hook lift system to make it a tipping hook lift truck, I intend to use the Mercedes cab and mount the gearbox as per delivery truck with it under the cab as far forwards as possible

parts so far
1 complete pass through driven axle
1 set of dual axle suspension
Carson steering rod
blue bird low profile servos for steering and gear changing

on order
the delivery truck kit
the c parts for the dual axle
MFU 01
short prop shaft to fit between the rear axles
paint for cab (it is going to be red)

to order
hook lift kit or a tipper body and hydraulics to suit the tipper
new prop shaft and centre mount if I have to buy two shorter prop shafts ( don't know the distance between the gearbox and front differential yet)

[Tamiya Cowboy]

Brel


This is going to be another great build my friend I cant wait to see what comes from your parts hunt..

[CustomClod]

Looking forward to seeing this!
Scott

[crawler07]

sound like a good plan! I have never seen those servos before they look cool!

[Brel]

here is a picture showing the size difference between a standard futaba servo and the low profile ones
I am using the low profile servos because I intend to get the gearbox and motor as far forwards as possible, A standard servo will not clear the motor but the low profile ones will,
also mounting them as if I was building the Knight hauler to reduce play in the steering, if I build the delivery truck as according to the manual there is a lot of slop in the steering and not in the USA truck set up

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/scania%20r620/GEDC0080.jpg

[Snowman]

I've got one of those low profile servos, yet to use it to see how it performs.
A hook lift would be great, not many of those around. If your budget will stretch that far, can't imagine the parts being cheap!

[doodlebug]

Hey Brel, have you seen the Lego Technic's hook lift truck, for idea's? It's screw drive on the lift.
you tube video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA9vFT5gYdc&feature=colike
Cheer's, Neil.

[rcguyfarms]

did u order the leimbach roll off kit? I am waiting on receiving on myself for a wedico rig.

[SWAGGER]

I like where you are going with this. Looking forward to this build.

[rcguyfarms]

I ordered mine thru PMD at gardentrucking.com.

[Brian in PA]

Looks good so far! I like the lo pro servo. I could have used those. What was the cost and where did you get it from?

[Snowman]

I have the same servo, probably from the same seller. Not bad for the price and it appears to have metal gears too.

[Snowman]

Waiting for Parcel Farce to deliver is always a painful experience, hope they don't slap on customs charges, I got stung the other day :mad:

[SWAGGER]

Don't know about the UK, but for me in Ireland (I would have thought it would be the same) I don't get hit with customs on packages from Hong Kong, but I do on packages from the US over 75 USD in value. Hence why I am more likely to go the ebay / Hong Kong route.
Having said that, I ordered a flatbed trailer last November on ebay, forgot to check where it was shipping from. I assumed Hong Kong as 90% of the stuff is, I paid and then noticed that it was coming from Illinois. I panicked a bit, but so far - no custom bill! Maybe he marked down the value and put it has hobby/gift, didn't look.

BTW, love seeing all the parts spread out all over the floor. It's great fun until the boss gets home! Also really like the military Scania!

[Brel]

good news from TTM they say they can get the roll on/off tipper kit for me and I cant for it wait now

[SWAGGER]

Very neat servo and steering setup, out of curiosity, whats the steering throw like?

Also, with regard to your prop/drive shaft, take a look at how Tamiya Cowboy makes his own custom length ones. They look great, true to scale and are a very strong and reliable setup. You could do same via a bearing carrier.

[Brel]

tese two picturs shoul answer you question on steerin threw

I was thinking along them lines wit a mid chassis bearing carier

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/GEDC0051.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/GEDC0054.jpg

[SWAGGER]

That's probably the must positive steering I have ever seen on one of these trucks, nice work.

[Diesel Demond]

That is one big collection! awesome picture of them all

[Brel]

That is one big collection! awesome picture of them all

I wish they were all mine but sadly not.
the were over fifty tanks at that weekend's meet at the Swindon and Cricklade railways war week end in september 2010, all belonging to various members of the Radio Controlled Tank Regiment

[Brel]

I have a seven channel radio on order for this hooklift truck
it is a planet T7 with normal trims and is 2.4 GHz

[Brel]

Also ordered the Servonaut BMA pump controller off TTm, so it wil arrive with the hook lift kit

[SWAGGER]

That is one **** of a collection of tanks. Fun day out!

Out of curiosity, where did you order the Plant T7 from? I have been looking everywhere for a 6+ channel 2.4GHZ TX with analog trims for ages. Everything seems to be digi trims now.

[Brel]

I ordered it off ebay.co.uk
just done a search and there is another one here
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190615657992?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2 Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm570.l2736 %26_nkw%3D190615657992%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1#ht_871wt_905

[SWAGGER]

Nice one Brel, great price too!

[Brel]

That is one **** of a collection of tanks. Fun day out!


it was a war weekend at the Swindon and Cricklade railway, the tanks belong to various members of the rctankregiment.co.uk tank club

[Stuart]

Coming along nicely, great job on modifying the tx, will this mod work with digi trims do you know?

Stu

[Diesel Demond]

NICE MOD BUT TO HI TECH FOR ME!!

[elliot330]

Book marked.

Looking good so far.. its good news that Leimbach started to do this kit for the Tamiya now.

What size bucket did you order? Or one of each!

[Brel]

elliot I ordered the middle sized skip and an extra hook lift frame to make another skip from a brudder dump truck skip LOL

[elliot330]

is it going to be nato spec? *edit that'll be no... I just remembered you've painted it red.

Some ideas for ya..!

Bruder container bolted to the sled.. job done!

http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz152/elliot330/tam2.jpg
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz152/elliot330/Dsc01618.jpg
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz152/elliot330/hook-lift-container-8b.jpg

[Brel]

elliot I made a complete balls of painting the cab, so it may end up Nato green yet, as for the hook lift loads a flatbed one may be built as well LOL

[uk trucker]

Just out of interest, how much is a hook lift kit.

I scratch built my own hook lift a couple of years ago and cost me a fortune in scrap ally.
I have a flat plant carrying skip and a rubble skip.

Those NATO DROPS flat beds are nice looking bits of kit.

[uk trucker]

cor blimey, that's a lot of money!

[SWAGGER]

Pow! Right in the wallet!

But if you can spare it, why not?

[elliot330]

cor blimey, that's a lot of money!

As soon as you mention "hydraulics" you can add £££'s to the price.. but look at the results..!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfEJKBnLPeE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_y2lMTXSJU

[rcguyfarms]

I am jealous right now.

[Stuart]

Awesome!!!

[SWAGGER]

You do not waster time mate! You are seriously flying along with this, it's looking great.

[rcguyfarms]

do u have the roll off kit with new improvements?

[Actros861]

This is awsome.

I hope i can buildt a hooklift on my next truck:)

[hippy]

way too cool! nice work on it.

[rcguyfarms]

do u have it working yet?

[glorydays24]

You're really coming right along with this build. You are going to a very nice truck when you're done.:D:D:D

Big John

[Actros861]

go for it but be warned the leimbach kit is expensive

I now, i have their crane on my Scania T620 heavy hauler. That truck has become insanely expensive.

[doodlebug]

Hey Brel, have you tried using a heat gun on the tubing, before it goes on the hydraulic fitting's? Look's like fun!
Cheer's, Neil.

[Snochaser]

Wow, that works effortlessly. Nice job.

[SWAGGER]

Turning out great Brel. The vid prooves clearly that is is a very tough kit and lifts 7KG like it's nothing, very smooth. Fantastic adaptation of the container to a roller, the bearings and brackets you made look like proper scale castors. Be proud.

[Espeefan]

Very cool build! I loved watching your video of things in operation. The way the suspension squats a little, as the tub is pulled off the ground is just awesome. That looks like a a lot of fun to run. To bad we don't see more of these kits around. They must be hard, or impossible to get, especially in the states! Thanks for sharing this build.

[uk trucker]

Looking good,
With regard to the springs, I put an extra leaf inbetween the Tamiya ones.
I used the springy banding that comes on packing cases to make the extra leaves.

We will have to have a "skip fest" one day.Think yours will out lift mine though but at least ,as you say, there are not many hook loaders around in r/c world.

[MoRockN]

Amazing work! I love the merc body on there

[spudd]

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Brel]

I replaced the big leimbach pump and tank with one from ScaleArt trucks

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/GEDC0201.jpg
comparison between the two pumps and tanks
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2012-09-20095333_zpsf91958e7.jpg

and after fitting the ScaleArt pump and tank

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2012-09-20095257_zpsf675f7fa.jpg
as you can see from this shot the pump and it's motor are hidden in the tank
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2012-09-17175048_zps7be55923.jpg

[Brel]

can this topic be moved into the euro trucks section many thanks

[Brel]

thank you to the moderator that moved this topic :D:)

[Tamiya Cowboy]

No prob Brel I missed it the first time.. Keep up the great work cant wait to see some video on the arm working

[Brel]

here is a video I shot during the build whilst I was testing the hydraulics on the kitchen work top
http://youtu.be/MjvIS0Fl3AM

[Brel]

I bought a set of mud guards of ebay as a crimbo present to one's self, to hope fully arrive before Christmas, well they did not do so, they arrived this afternoon (1330 hrs) and two hours later they are fitted to the truck

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/GEDC0039-1.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/GEDC0042-1.jpg

[Brel]

I have decided to rebuild the truck and remove the box off the rear behind the cab and replace the Tamiya MFU with a servonaut M20+ because the pump runs at 12V and it is playing havoc with the electrics trying to operate the pump at 12v and run the MFU at 7.2v
all I have done at the moment is swapped the running gear and fitted a single speed gearbox to the truck because I may not have enough channels on the planet T7 radio so I may have to get another TX/RX with more channels and the servonaut speed controllers is controlled very differently to a Tamiya trucks MFU LOL
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-02-28144848_zpsdfec4196.jpg

[Brel]

now the fun begins with the servonaut boards arriving this morning at 9am UK time
we have from the left the M20+ the SMT and the original BMA board that was fitted with the Tamiya MFU
just got to figure out what goes where in order to get the sounds to work
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/2013-03-05090013_zps5cb5226c.jpg

[Brel]

and as of 1600HRS this is where I am at with the rebuild of the truck

I have the trucks chassis running and have got the sound to work too, with the SMT mounted on the cabs interior and the RX in the windscreen, ( good job I painted the windows black)
I am using a 40 MHz FM Robbe/futaba F16 8 channel TX/RX combo and it is ok, but I need to get a 2.4 gig radio for it but the cost is a bit too much at the moment

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/th_2013-03-05160406_zps4eed3d84.jpg (http://s231.beta.photobucket.com/user/brelewart/media/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-05160406_zps4eed3d84.jpg.html)

the M20+ label on the front of the control board

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/th_2013-03-05160214_zps8631ed15.jpg (http://s231.beta.photobucket.com/user/brelewart/media/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-05160214_zps8631ed15.jpg.html)

I replaced the glitching low-profile servo with a standard one and had to raise the motor and gearbox by 6mm using some bronze bushing with a flat filled on them to get them to fit under the gearbox mounting lugs

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/th_2013-03-05160144_zps1ba59c75.jpg (http://s231.beta.photobucket.com/user/brelewart/media/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-05160144_zps1ba59c75.jpg.html) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/th_2013-03-05160138_zpsa8e8c2b1.jpg (http://s231.beta.photobucket.com/user/brelewart/media/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-05160138_zpsa8e8c2b1.jpg.html)

Spaghetti in the cab LOL

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/th_2013-03-05160109_zpsfb92fc47.jpg (http://s231.beta.photobucket.com/user/brelewart/media/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-05160109_zpsfb92fc47.jpg.html) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/th_2013-03-05160105_zps5d4c010c.jpg (http://s231.beta.photobucket.com/user/brelewart/media/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-05160105_zps5d4c010c.jpg.html) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/th_2013-03-05160059_zps587927f6.jpg (http://s231.beta.photobucket.com/user/brelewart/media/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-05160059_zps587927f6.jpg.html)

rolling chassis with the cab fitted
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/th_2013-03-05160036_zps6f9bc640.jpg (http://s231.beta.photobucket.com/user/brelewart/media/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-05160036_zps6f9bc640.jpg.html)

[Brel]

been a busy boy today I have got the battery holder fitted and the M20+, the BMA boards down the side of the battery holder plus all of the lights working just got to transplant the hydraulic system and the hook lift gear from the old chassis to the new one LOL
rear light cluster being modified with plasticard insert that were drilled out to fit the 3mm LEDs from the outside to the centre, we have the Indicator LED, Rear LED, Brake LED and Reversing LED

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/225c9c91-21e3-45ff-868f-48b53210c7a2_zps2fd9b72f.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-06152507_zps579478af.jpg

light clusters re-fitted to the truck Chassis and as you can see I threaded the wires into heat shrink tubing ( a lot easier than the tamiya offering because they don't have plugs on them)

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-06152537_zpsc21873fb.jpg

wires ready to be fitted to the M20+ board and you can see where I mounted the BMA and M20+ boards

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-06152550_zps85f29c38.jpg

front Bumper with the LEDs fitted and as the rear lights we have from tha outside to the middle Indicator, Side light and main beam again with the wires in heat shrink tubing

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-06193533_zps0f807f36.jpg

wiring up the lights I got the rear indicators the wrong way around LOL so had to swap them over LOL

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-06201516_zps44248dd0.jpg

rear lights and Rotating beacons test
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-06154240_zps8b7b7a68.jpg

[Brel]

the transplant of the hydraulics went like clockwork and it fitted fine, just got to wire up the pump to the BMA board and plug in the servos that control the valves and it should run OK
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-07115333_zps3ca1264f.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-07115411_zps7a20dc0e.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-07115432_zps4d5311f9.jpg

[Kingcam2]

Looking good so far Brel.

Keep up the good work.

From Cameron.

[Brel]

Looking good so far Brel.

Keep up the good work.

From Cameron.

thanks mate

I forgot to add that I have to fit the fenders over the rear wheels as well

[Brel]

Hi Brel.

This starting to be a great set up.
I would like to do one of these myself one day.

Regards Ralph. (lostinoz)

thanks mate

I forgot to add that I had removed the three speed gearbox and servo and fitted one of these single speed gearboxes with the smallest pinion on the motor
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/gearbox_zpsd4a3d250.jpg

[MoRockN]

Very nice Merc! I really like that scaleart pump, might have to switch mine on my roll on/off truck. I also just realized that I have 3 BMA's that I have not installed yet after seeing yours:D .

[Brel]

Very nice Merc! I really like that scaleart pump, might have to switch mine on my roll on/off truck. I also just realized that I have 3 BMA's that I have not installed yet after seeing yours:D .

the BMA is a great little module but it is a pity that the run time after letting go of the stick, it can't be shut right down, I have got it down to two seconds

back to the truck

I bought a New 2.4 Gig flysky 9 channel radio with a 8 channel receiver radio for the truck because the F16 40MHz FM radio was glitching like there was no tomorrow and as you can see it arrived today

pictures of the new radio

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-14163911_zps093cbcca.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-14163925_zpsc3d16eef.jpg

it looks like they have taken an older 35 MHZ radio and converted it to 2.4 GHz with a module plugged into the back of it

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-14164513_zpsda370eb7.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-03-14164557_zpsa56cce4b.jpg

It only took me four hours to enable the 4 channels that are not on the sticks to the various knobs and switches on the unit Grrrrr, why they can't make a 8 or 9 channel radio that is simple to use is beyond me instead of having to use an aircraft radio, just got to set the truck and radio up again, oh well there goes the rest of the day LOL

[Bigrigger]

That is quite a set up you have there! I can't wait to see the finished truck! I also bought an RC plane radio, but they are great!

[Brel]

the truck in action testing the hydraulics

http://youtu.be/iq19unpRsZ8

[Brel]

I have fitted a smarty parts programming board that arrived today and I have re-flashed the firmware in the TX for a better version than the original firmware
also fitted a Hobbyking backlight a month a go and it now switches off by using a spare switch on the tx (allocated by the Er9X firmware) just got to work out how the firmware operates the TX now, also I have recalibrated the radio using the set up options in the TX

[Brel]

I have decided to replace the silver aluminium front bumper on the skip truck with another aluminium one, that I got from Rigid RC it is similar to the tamiya original one, the reason is to protect the steering servo on rough ground and grass, I also blanked out the lower light inboard of the outer ones

old bumper

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/GEDC0064_zpsab5c0960.jpg (http://s231.photobucket.com/user/brelewart/media/rollon_off%20container%20truck/GEDC0064_zpsab5c0960.jpg.html)

new bumper

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-05-30182716_zps3744758c.jpg (http://s231.photobucket.com/user/brelewart/media/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-05-30182716_zps3744758c.jpg.html)

the Mercedes 4* 2 tractor has an aluminium bumper fitted to but is slightly different as I got it from another supplier

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-05-30182757_zpsa66438e8.jpg (http://s231.photobucket.com/user/brelewart/media/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-05-30182757_zpsa66438e8.jpg.html)

I also decided to replace the rear cab support with a metal one again from Rigid RC

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-05-29151224_zpsfc370ee9.jpg (http://s231.photobucket.com/user/brelewart/media/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-05-29151224_zpsfc370ee9.jpg.html)

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-05-29151200_zps179abfa0.jpg (http://s231.photobucket.com/user/brelewart/media/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-05-29151200_zps179abfa0.jpg.html)

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/brelewart/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-05-29151231_zpse1beac41.jpg (http://s231.photobucket.com/user/brelewart/media/rollon_off%20container%20truck/2013-05-29151231_zpse1beac41.jpg.html)

[Stuff]

love that cab latch!

[Brel]

love that cab latch!

So do I, it is a lot better than the tamiya offering and you don't have to mess about trying to get a split pin into it to lock down the cab, all three of my trucks are fitted with the cab support/latch from rigidrc

[Kaf343]

Very cool, nice job

[Brel]

Very cool, nice job

Thank you for you kind words