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ihbuilder
08-13-2010, 09:32 PM
I do not quite remember all of the beginning so I'll give some pics w/a narrative . I decided to try to build (what I have seen thus far) what has not been done . so far it is a great success :D
the scaling of pics and design and pattern making , starts with a parts book and some general knowledge of compacity range as it's difficult to acquire data for these old machines . all motor scrapers have a basic shape and size according to bowl compacity . So I figured out the comparable machine in another bran such as a cat 637 to get the general dimensions . basically using the tire size to finesse the design
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/433drawing.jpg
the patterns
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/uncutparts.jpg
the 5th wheel
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/43315thwheel.jpg
the cut plates waiting to be welded
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/4332parts.jpg
the next few pics are of the assembly . now scrapers are heavy so are these by design :D the round at the goose neck is a 12000# front axle king pin :p
the bowl assembly
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/4331bowl.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/4331frame.jpg
the goose neck
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/4331gooseneck.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/4331apronlift.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/4331topviewgooseneck.jpg
5th wheel and goose neck
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/43315thwheel2.jpg
some cab and sheet metal
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/433-2sheetwork1.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/433-2sheetwork2.jpg
grill
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/4332grill.jpg
drive train HPI savage diffs anhime automation gear motors tried as a single speed great for loading but slow as **** for travel so playing with traxxas e-maxx 2 speed manual trans
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/4332bearinghub.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/4332frontdiff.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/emax2.jpg

running out off room
to be continued

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/4332bearinghub.jpg

ihbuilder
08-13-2010, 09:46 PM
I will be back to work on this 1 which I labeled ps433-2 soon . My 2nd trans showed up today . now to free up the lathe to make a few couplings .
as I said before I will have my vids up as soon as I get you-tube figured out . I got the watching fixed by getting a computer with a bigger processor

thats it for now ;)
thanks for looking
IHSteve

Roadmasters
08-13-2010, 11:24 PM
looking good steve, cant wait for more!!

fhhhstix
08-14-2010, 12:47 AM
Glad to see you found another trans.

Stylin n profilin
08-14-2010, 01:01 AM
Thats sweet...alll hand made..You the man Steve!!:eek::D

JAMMER
08-14-2010, 11:04 AM
Your looking good Steve. Ed

SonoranWraith
08-14-2010, 11:17 AM
These are so sweet.

td9clyde
08-14-2010, 11:31 AM
good to see pics again lol now i just needa get my butt in gear and start my thread again so far nothin has changed with any of my scrap piles lol

dirtpusher9
08-14-2010, 04:58 PM
Glad to hear about the new tranny Steve, look forward to an update.

ihbuilder
08-15-2010, 12:05 AM
good to see pics again lol now i just needa get my butt in gear and start my thread again so far nothin has changed with any of my scrap piles lol

I wouldn't call them scrap pile's heck mine came from scrap piles LOL 1 thing I learned in fabricating nothing ever goes as plan . I got to redo some areas to put the trannys in also extend the goose neck because of not having exact dementions but thats how it always goes for me :( but I still try to :D

( dirtpusher9 ) " Glad to hear about the new tranny Steve, look forward to an update."

thank you joe glad your here feels like home ( real home )no bs when you log on or phone calls of accusations when your busten you but trying to get your job done and get home to your wife ,kids and HOBBY :D. NUFF SAID ON THAT NOTE :eek: I'm soon to be ready for paint on my 5900i so while painting I'll be getting these tranny's in and fixing some flaws . Also It's starting to cool down a bit :) + looks like I'll be able to be in my shop more than just a 1/2 day/wknd ( I'll have to be :rolleyes: )

thanks every 1 + FDG+joe +paul
Oh If you mods do not like a certain few word I said , tell me I'll remove them
IHB

JAMMER
08-15-2010, 09:28 PM
Steve it seems to be really coming around. Ed

ihbuilder
08-16-2010, 09:17 AM
thanks Ed . I'm actually working on it I haven't felt well yesterday now it carried into today :( so it's not lack of sleep . Its the way my body is with this weather . I'm figuring my gear train so I do not have to re do

here's the first vid of it loading
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/th_ps4332.jpg (http://s830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/?action=view&current=ps4332.mp4)


I wiil try to get the next 1 on y-tube for those who can't see p-b

IHB

J Hall
08-16-2010, 09:31 AM
Steve.. Nice going..

I could bring the D8 by to use as a push cat to save all that bending over..LOL
I always wondered how well a scraper would work for us..Lots of possibilities

What does the scraper weigh..??

ihbuilder
08-16-2010, 10:19 AM
in excess of 40# , the weight is the key;)

IHB

9W Monighan
08-16-2010, 10:26 AM
Freakin awesome Steve. I guess you're getting motivated:D

ihbuilder
08-16-2010, 10:44 AM
Freakin awesome Steve. I guess you're getting motivated:D

yea I saw your pics on stripmine and just about cried :p

IHSteve

CatdrvR
08-18-2010, 09:49 AM
Wow! Great job with that scraper. Loved watching the video of her in action. At 40 pounds, she is pretty hefty! Must be a pain in the back to move her... literally. :D Can't wait to see more from you.

Dan

modelman
08-18-2010, 10:39 AM
ihbuilder-looking good!! what tires are you using and what size are they?

ihbuilder
08-18-2010, 11:08 AM
thanks Dan , yea she's getting heavy and not done yet still got to make the ejector and may fill the tires w/bb's + elec. and hydros . thats the purpose for the 5900i + rogers so I don't have to carry it :p

thanks Tom , the tires are off the tamiya mammoth . 6" dia. x 2" wide they scaled out rite on

IHSteve

JAMMER
08-18-2010, 11:11 AM
Hey Steve run up here and move my excavator with your lowboy will you? Ed

modelman
08-20-2010, 10:49 AM
Thanks for the info-I gave up on the mining truck I wanted to build because I couldn't find the correct size tires.

9W Monighan
08-20-2010, 10:54 AM
Tom, Why don't you try to cast some tires from silicone? If you could come up with the right size you probably could sell some to others in the same situation. What dimensions are you looking for?

sparkycuda
08-20-2010, 03:05 PM
I grew up with IH construction equipment and really enjoy seeing your scrapers. What truck are you considering?

Ken Sharp

SonoranWraith
08-20-2010, 06:14 PM
Tom, Why don't you try to cast some tires from silicone? If you could come up with the right size you probably could sell some to others in the same situation. What dimensions are you looking for?

I wish someone on this side of the pond would do this.

ihbuilder
08-20-2010, 07:57 PM
I wish someone on this side of the pond would do this.

well Matt , it has been on my mind , but with my current makings the demand has exceded the supply :eek:

not only that I got to many builds going :eek::D

IHSteve

tracksntreadslou
08-20-2010, 09:03 PM
I wish someone on this side of the pond would do this.

I agree the construction tire issue is not very good here ...Wonder if the rock crawler parts supplier that makes the scale rig tires could be talked into making a few different versions ..Im sure the are a few guys on here the know him personaly .
THe scrapers are looking good steve...looks like you have the drive pretty well figured out with tons of power to load ..Are you planning to add a second gear as well?

ihbuilder
08-20-2010, 11:51 PM
Tanks LOU I was planing to but with the trannys I got to change a lot . so I'm thinking of gearing it up for the high speed and use the radio to slow it down . got plenty of power and weight :)

IHSteve

td9clyde
09-04-2010, 09:17 AM
we need some up date pics i been postin on my pan lol ur turn lol i like seein your progress i think your pans are cool i don't know how you guys build in a small scale i like 1/10 so much more room

SonoranWraith
09-04-2010, 09:55 AM
we need some up date pics i been postin on my pan lol ur turn lol i like seein your progress i think your pans are cool i don't know how you guys build in a small scale i like 1/10 so much more room

Because the trucks are 1/16 and 1/14 approximately. The german construction equipment is built in these scales as well. Then there is all the diecast in 1/16 you can use for static loads/staging/cargo. :)

ihbuilder
09-04-2010, 10:05 AM
Clyde nothing to post yet :( for some reason there's to many projects on the bench , drill press , lathe and mill and not enough operators :rolleyes:

IHSteve

ihbuilder
09-11-2010, 08:46 PM
boy the dust got thick enough to pan it off :p got tired of moving my bigger sprockets around finally put them on and tried the scraper out . :) worked well :)

Lil Giants
09-12-2010, 12:08 AM
boy the dust got thick enough to pan it off :p got tired of moving my bigger sprockets around finally put them on and tried the scraper out . :) worked well :)

What did you say? :confused:

You really need to proof read what you've written before hitting the send button. ;)

ihbuilder
09-12-2010, 08:28 AM
What did you say? :confused:

You really need to proof read what you've written before hitting the send button. ;)

Sorry :o the first time I did that :o

ihbuilder
09-16-2010, 07:49 PM
hope you all can see these : unsure:
got both motors in and started on sheet metal while turning on the lathe
Shaft support and rear cross member
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0442.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0443.jpg
fenders and rear fuel tank ( still have to mill the supports out off it , tonight ;) )
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0444.jpg

I'll get better pic's when the sun comes out . Finally got a few drops of mother nature

IHSteve

Lil Giants
09-16-2010, 08:12 PM
Pics are fine Steve, glad to see you figured out good picture taking. :nice:

Good work on the fenders, the scraper is coming together nicely. I don't see the two speed trannies :confused:, not on this one?

ihbuilder
09-16-2010, 08:25 PM
Pics are fine Steve, glad to see you figured out good picture taking. :nice:

Good work on the fenders, the scraper is coming together nicely. I don't see the two speed trannies :confused:, not on this one?

no , I ditched the idea for now . I just increased the speed through the gearing and I'll slow it down through the radio ( If I need to ) . The boxes I got just would not work for what I want . so when I start putting #1 together I'll build my own . I'm just eager to get one working then fine tune later .

IHSteve

ihbuilder
09-16-2010, 11:16 PM
no , I ditched the idea for now . I just increased the speed through the gearing and I'll slow it down through the radio ( If I need to ) . The boxes I got just would not work for what I want . so when I start putting #1 together I'll build my own . I'm just eager to get one working then fine tune later .

IHSteve

dang It joe , Now you got me thinking about the 2 speed again . After I wrote that previous post ,I couldn't leave it alone .( I get tiered of redoing ) . for some reason ,all my builds seem to take longer then I expect them to :rolleyes:

IHSteve

mog
09-17-2010, 02:28 PM
Steve don't feal bad my builds never get done. i have a little too much A D D some times but your doing it right so it will take some time. you will have the power now to fill that bole up good and high.

Snochaser
09-17-2010, 02:56 PM
IHSteve- I laughed reading your last comment.....I second guess myself on a lot of stuff, just funny to see someone else doing it...got a kick out of it. It's looking good! I think there is a race going on.....let's see who can get there scraper/pull pan to fill the bowl 1st.

Ben

ihbuilder
09-17-2010, 04:25 PM
thanks mog , yea she got the guts but slow as heck traveling thats the purpose of the trans to up the travel speed . I'm thinking making my own so low is direct and hi is 4:1 overdrive


IHSteve- I laughed reading your last comment.....I second guess myself on a lot of stuff, just funny to see someone else doing it...got a kick out of it. It's looking good! I think there is a race going on.....let's see who can get there scraper/pull pan to fill the bowl 1st.

Ben


Ben , I do not know if any one else tried theirs , but I loaded mine half full till I got tied of holding the bowl up by hand.


I'll be running the chain drive till I get the trannies made gona take some time by hand X 4 :rolleyes: did some more sheet metal while making wheel blanks post on it later this wknd ( no pretty paint now )

IHSteve

JAMMER
09-17-2010, 05:19 PM
Steve you have a great start there it looks real good so far keep up the good work. Ed

dirtpusher9
09-18-2010, 04:59 PM
Looking real good, Steve. It should have plenty of power. Are you going to have room for your hydaulics?

td9clyde
09-18-2010, 09:56 PM
lol I call last place the 14 is on hold till i find the right tires lol but i am still working on it and other things lol

Ace Trucker
09-19-2010, 10:04 AM
nice payscrapper i like to see how ya guys build these things

ihbuilder
09-19-2010, 08:07 PM
Ed , Clyde , Ace and DP9Joe Thanks


Looking real good, Steve. It should have plenty of power. Are you going to have room for your hydaulics?

Joe It'll be tight like freddy said " not much room for a fleas balls " when I'm done . Power :D She's got plenty of that :D

well here's the update pics
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0466.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0468.jpg
made the muffler waiting for breakfast :p
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0470.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0473.jpg
dash
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0472.jpg

thanks for looking
IHSteve

td9clyde
09-19-2010, 08:40 PM
looks good nice lookin bail glad to see one almost done can't wait to get mine with tires and rear ends lol i might use geared motors i donno yet i only have 4 and a half inches to play with on the width yea i think your right i think things are gonna be really tight once you get all the stuff in there keep up the great work if it was me i would make a false motor to hide things or side sheilds so things are hidden well good to see progress

modelman
09-20-2010, 10:18 AM
IHsteve-looks really good! If you, TD9 and DP9 ever get together to move some dirt that would be a great show!!

td9clyde
09-22-2010, 06:21 PM
how high are your push blocks on your pans? or how high is the bail block?? and how far out is the d ring from the block to the inside of your d ring?

ihbuilder
09-23-2010, 05:36 PM
IHsteve-looks really good! If you, TD9 and DP9 ever get together to move some dirt that would be a great show!!

thanks Tom , that would be :cool:


how high are your push blocks on your pans? or how high is the bail block?? and how far out is the d ring from the block to the inside of your d ring?


Clyde , the bail Is 4" from center of pin to loop . The push blocks are 3.5" high on the rear and the front push plate goes from 3" to 4" of push area . I have to move my tow hooks back a .5" for the bail to work . If I made the bail longer it would have looked way out of scale . the tow hook could be off do to not having good pics to go off of .


IHSteve

JAMMER
09-23-2010, 06:22 PM
Steve that pan looks real good you are going to run two motors on that one for the front and one for the back? Got a great start keep up the good work. Ed

Young_DieselRC199
09-29-2010, 08:26 PM
being addicted to this stuff is both awesome and HORRIBLE IM 13 AND IM IN RAGED WITH JEALOUSY I ENVY ALL YOU LUCKY SUN OF A GUNS (not ment to afend LUCKYS) help me with a bruder build im thinking about i need help with the remote and wireing some one help

fhhhstix
09-29-2010, 08:43 PM
I guess this makes you his hero Steve, and now we start the ihbuilder fan club.:cool:

Travis "00" Biddle

ihbuilder
10-01-2010, 01:31 PM
being addicted to this stuff is both awesome and HORRIBLE IM 13 AND IM IN RAGED WITH JEALOUSY I ENVY ALL YOU LUCKY SUN OF A GUNS (not ment to afend LUCKYS) help me with a bruder build im thinking about i need help with the remote and wireing some one help

:confused: SAY WHAT !! :confused: If you have ?s on converting bruders , ask them in static conversions . I do feel your pain on this addiction :p:D:eek: OH PLEASE use spell check I have to a lot :eek::p

I guess this makes you his hero Steve, and now we start the ihbuilder fan club.:cool:

Travis "00" Biddle

I'm honored Travis , but why me :confused::rolleyes:


I just ordered my cylinder making material ;) and pump parts to follow :D now just need some time on the lathe and mill :rolleyes::p

pics after ecmt meet sometime :p

IHSteve

ihbuilder
10-01-2010, 11:12 PM
I was not happy with the way my welded grills where turning out . So I milled 1 :)

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0505.jpg

IHSteve

RCTech9
10-01-2010, 11:53 PM
Looks Great!!!

9W Monighan
10-02-2010, 08:30 PM
Steve,Clyde And Joe look this guys videos over and maybe it'll get yuall's blood pumpin to get those scraper working:D:eek::D:D:eek::D:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px0cMqHskeM

dirtpusher9
10-02-2010, 10:18 PM
Nice work on the grill Steve.

Good to see someone still running the 660's and have a good haul road to run on.

(BTW mine is finished).lol

ihbuilder
10-02-2010, 10:37 PM
Steve,Clyde And Joe look this guys videos over and maybe it'll get yuall's blood pumpin to get those scraper working:D:eek::D:D:eek::D:eek:

who'll build that one :p I think joes scraper vid already did that :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px0cMqHskeM

Nice work on the grill Steve.

Good to see someone still running the 660's and have a good haul road to run on.

(BTW mine is finished).lol

thank you Joe , I know what you mean about getting close to scale :eek: I'm working on all the details now and crowd/ejector . I have the barrels made for the crowd cylinders just got to get these wheels off the lathe so I can make the rest . Have you ever been close enough to 1 ( can be a cat 627 637 ) to see in the bowl ? is there any grove or track on the floor for the crowd /ejector ? my parts book only shows the 1's on the side for the side roller . I could ask an old customer about looking at his but I think he has them in the marcelus shale (gas) field making rig roads :(

IHSteve

dirtpusher9
10-02-2010, 10:48 PM
Steve, the only thing I've ever seen is the 2 runners on the floor for the crowd carry rollers to run on. I made mine out of stainless steel strips so they would wear better (like their going to get a lot of use). Are you case hardening your cutting edges and side bits?

ihbuilder
10-02-2010, 11:05 PM
I got to make them but I think I'll chew the tires apart before I wear a cutter out , but wouldn't hurt though :)

IHSteve

D8R
10-03-2010, 01:19 PM
Hi Steve, looking good scrapers, why make only one.
Looked thrue my photos of 463, here´s one pics showing the roller and a strip on floor
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af270/gulalastbilen/DSCF5220.jpg
Dan

ihbuilder
10-03-2010, 03:11 PM
thank you Dan . If your going to have a push pull you got to have at lest 2 :p

IHSteve

D8R
10-03-2010, 03:15 PM
Guess I have to build a DW20 and rebuild the 463 when my D8 is operational!

ihbuilder
10-05-2010, 06:11 PM
Guess I have to build a DW20 and rebuild the 463 when my D8 is operational!

LOL I never saw a pull pan being pushed . I'd love to see that 8 moving :eek:

I kinda improvised for the crowd/ejector but it'll do . Still have to make the top roller & track
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0507.jpg

got my rod and barrel material to day and just ordered the seals :D next is pump , valves and elec. :D oh the links are for an upcoming build this winter ;) just planning and collecting right now
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0513.jpg

some progress pics . BTW the rear stack is supposed to be black brown for a sooty/rusty look :) not perfect but I'll work on it ;)
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0510.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0509.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0509.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0511.jpg

enjoy
IHSteve

9W Monighan
10-05-2010, 06:45 PM
Have you come up with a bullet proof tranny yet? I was reading on a earlier post about two speeds and what came to mind was a two speed motor. I was scrounging around on my motor shelf looking for a motor on my boom hoist and found one that had two windings. Only problem with yours is you need super power in low.

ihbuilder
10-05-2010, 07:14 PM
Steve ,I plan on building 4 2 speeds this winter after cabin fever . I have a good loading speed right now which will work for shows and meets . when I'll need the high range will be in the 1:14 scale working garden railway where I can get some good scale working area . With 10 acres I can build 1 heck of a lay out that will keep expanding forever :D could even put a coal stripping in it ;)

IHSteve

trucker n
10-05-2010, 08:11 PM
man that is looking sweet steve:)

dirtpusher9
10-05-2010, 08:27 PM
Steve, you are moving along nicely. Will you make the St Louis show?

modelman
10-05-2010, 08:56 PM
IHbuilder-that looks really good! With it sitting on that trailer you can see the size of that "brute". Should be a "diggin" machine!!

td9clyde
10-05-2010, 09:11 PM
would those be number 40 or 50 half links??? lol i know what those will be for i had to grind on mine to get them to work right and smoothly

ihbuilder
10-05-2010, 09:34 PM
man that is looking sweet steve:)

thank you tn

Steve, you are moving along nicely. Will you make the St Louis show?

joe I'm coming but not enough time to get her running for the show :( my pump $ had to go else where but I should have it back soon .

IHbuilder-that looks really good! With it sitting on that trailer you can see the size of that "brute". Should be a "diggin" machine!!

thanks Tom . I'm hopping it will work like the real one . as is now it'll spin the wheels in the tires . I finally got the right size bar to make the wheels so I'll oversize the bead a little than stuff them . for size it's between a 627 and 637 cat . If you ever see a 627 on a trailer thats about what it looks like . But I think they have the 4th axle down .

would those be number 40 or 50 half links??? lol i know what those will be for i had to grind on mine to get them to work right and smoothly

1 more size :p 60 the pads will be 2" wide the same on my td8 wide track but much much bigger just a tad smaller than Joes D9 :D I will build the td8 also w/a 6 way blade just about got that figured out :p


IHSteve

td9clyde
10-06-2010, 07:53 PM
like size wise? that be a big dozer lol i used number 50 on the terex and i am in the same scale as DP Joe and my pads are 2 inches wide and 5/8's then a 1/4 inch grouser bar on the top 60's would be a lil big for a small dozer wouldn't they?

ihbuilder
10-06-2010, 08:31 PM
like size wise? that be a big dozer lol i used number 50 on the terex and i am in the same scale as DP Joe and my pads are 2 inches wide and 5/8's then a 1/4 inch grouser bar on the top 60's would be a lil big for a small dozer wouldn't they?

Clyde ,I plan to build 2 ,the td8e and td40 . The td 8 is 7" pitch which scales to .5 . I think that will be #40 the # 60 is for the TD-40 I've been wanting to do this before the pans but my want to be different over came me and had to do the pan's first this'll be about the size of your 82-30 and a hair smaller then joe's 9 . Hydraulics may slow me down on the pan . with the lack of space hydro's are the best option , can't run it with out them ( steering ) unless I change it ( no way ) the dozer you do not have to have the hydro's to use it . A heavy blade w/ cable up or some screw type mech . hidden to work the blade . All in all I still shooting to get - R - running for winter .

IHSteve

td9clyde
10-06-2010, 08:57 PM
Oh lol i missed the TD 40 lol now i follow you yea i went with the 50's and shoulda used the 60's both the 82-30's that i have the hydralic and the cable will get switched over to 60's and new pads lol but any ways to top all the other things i have in the works i been thinkin about another lol but i really need to concentrate on what i have in the works lol

Snochaser
10-06-2010, 11:01 PM
I like the look siiting on the trailer, looks like one going down the road (bounce, bounce, bounce- trailer movement)!

Coming along nicely.

-Ben

bigpipespete
11-09-2010, 04:43 PM
that looks fantastic

ihbuilder
11-10-2010, 10:36 PM
I like the look siiting on the trailer, looks like one going down the road (bounce, bounce, bounce- trailer movement)!

Coming along nicely.

-Ben

that looks fantastic



thanks guys it's on hold for a little till I get some things worked out on it that just bother me + got my own hydros I'm working on and need some more R&D time on them & scrounging time ;)

SmallHaul
11-11-2010, 05:54 AM
looking good Steve, how much does it weigh so far?

Oh, and do you ever sleep?:D

ihbuilder
11-11-2010, 12:43 PM
looking good Steve, how much does it weigh so far?

not yet maybe around 40 - 50 #

Oh, and do you ever sleep?:D

no not when something is bothering me like getin something to work with nothing or miss matched parts :mad: story of my life :(

any way , thanks :D

JAMMER
11-11-2010, 05:03 PM
Hello Steve that pan is looking real good and so does that lowboy it setting on I need one. Ed :)

ihbuilder
11-14-2010, 09:36 PM
Hello Steve that pan is looking real good and so does that lowboy it setting on I need one. Ed :)

thanks Ed , I tried It out today with both motors running ( back to the shelf it went :( ) . hollow mammoth tires just aren't going to cut it :( just spins the wheels in the tires . So I'm going to get my dozer going , then revisit these later :( .


Ed I'm not ready yet to make lowboys yet :p

IHSteve

JAMMER
11-15-2010, 08:23 AM
Steve can't you fill the tires with silicone or a hose that will help and give it a little weight to ? Ed :rolleyes:

ihbuilder
11-15-2010, 01:39 PM
Steve can't you fill the tires with silicone or a hose that will help and give it a little weight to ? Ed :rolleyes:

Ed , the weight or filling is not the issue , it's the wheels spinning in the tires . I found the tires I want on RC-machines just a mater of watching our $ inflate and becoming worthless next to the euro :mad: + lack of it also and I'm sick of trying to be low budget ( Impossible ) . So I don't care how long it takes , these are going to be the way I want them , If I got to make everything on them :p:D

IHSteve

JAMMER
11-15-2010, 02:17 PM
Steve if you had a hose inside the tire and get some 3 M Scotch Weld it is an epoxy and will hold on the rubber and aluminum and the tires won't spin. Ed

ihbuilder
11-18-2010, 01:47 PM
Ed , I've been toying with getting them filled at my tire guy like they do for skid steers . I just want to get my wheels made first , so it looks right then get them filled right up .

td9clyde
11-18-2010, 07:53 PM
3M 008115 epoxy that stuff is as strong as steel holds the steel to steel great and it hold to fiberglass and plastics great won't come off if it does it would be the first time i have ever seen it happen i used it on car rubber bumper covers and putting body kits on cars if you get it on a 5/16 bolt grade 8 it will snap it off but yea i get what you mean low funds and lots of things you want/ need to get to build things the way you want them

ihbuilder
11-18-2010, 08:07 PM
3M 008115 epoxy that stuff is as strong as steel holds the steel to steel great and it hold to fiberglass and plastics great won't come off if it does it would be the first time i have ever seen it happen i used it on car rubber bumper covers and putting body kits on cars if you get it on a 5/16 bolt grade 8 it will snap it off but yea i get what you mean low funds and lots of things you want/ need to get to build things the way you want them



have you tried it rubber to rubber ? but yea , somewhat low funds,time and not coming out the way I want kinda got me turned off it for a little while :( . right now I'm have some fun on the td40 . basically I can scrounge what I need right in my own yard with the exception of electrics and some gears small enough . all the gears I have are bigger then the dozer :p

td9clyde
11-18-2010, 08:47 PM
yea it should you have to ruff it up real good 60 or 80 grit sand paper and you can glue metal with it instead of welding but it takes like 24 hours to cure and 12 to set up thats at 70 degrees

SonoranWraith
11-19-2010, 08:38 AM
yea it should you have to ruff it up real good 60 or 80 grit sand paper and you can glue metal with it instead of welding but it takes like 24 hours to cure and 12 to set up thats at 70 degrees

Can you bake it to speed curing?

td9clyde
11-19-2010, 07:44 PM
i wouldn't bake it i would use a heat lamp or something

ihbuilder
11-25-2010, 09:52 AM
boy I wish I knew about HE forums when I started these :( . I found some great pics of these on there , now I know why they just don't seem right :( looks like a whole rebuild of the goose neck :( . I got it to wide at the bowl area . I also may reconfigure the motor arrangement , I got to much front hood . http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-mad-smileys-264.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html)

td9clyde
11-26-2010, 10:51 AM
don't take it hard i know the feeling lol i had to cut the whole rear quarter outta my terex dozer when i built it and i chopped the whole model in half cuz the front end was too long then on the D 7 it took me 4 tries to get the sweeps bent right thats why i blow the pic up to the scale i want along with other pics and measurements i tried the drawing it out thing with the pete i am pondering on needless to say it was off so i found the cab measurements and pics online and then blew them up now everything is proporsionedout right

ihbuilder
11-26-2010, 11:25 AM
don't take it hard i know the feeling lol i had to cut the whole rear quarter outta my terex dozer when i built it and i chopped the whole model in half cuz the front end was too long then on the D 7 it took me 4 tries to get the sweeps bent right thats why i blow the pic up to the scale i want along with other pics and measurements i tried the drawing it out thing with the pete i am pondering on needless to say it was off so i found the cab measurements and pics online and then blew them up now everything is proporsionedout right

All I had was a machinery trader pic and some general info as for yard cap. , so I scaled it off a cat of that size , I was darn close :p . Thanks to Ken for the e-mail :D . the whole prob with the build was getting a hold of good 90 deg pics and aireal pics :( now I get to see them at this stage :confused: till I get some O&A for the torch and weeks of rethinking (designing ) they're on the shelf :( finally got over the downness of that and got deep into the td40 :D .

td9clyde
11-26-2010, 11:31 AM
We need some pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please lol

ihbuilder
11-26-2010, 11:42 AM
We need some pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please lol

calm down Henry I just got the 18 rollers off the lathe this morn by 7 now I'm making front idlers still have to order the bushings or make them . this is the longest part of the build ( track assm. )

td9clyde
11-26-2010, 01:26 PM
lol i know what you mean the tracks i have to make all the pads and weld the links and grouser bars on yet lol and make the idlers and pick up some sprockets

ihbuilder
01-04-2011, 09:30 PM
just testing my YT upload , I have this vid posted from PB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUifLGLOt10

LMK if it works

IHSteve

doodlebug
01-04-2011, 10:05 PM
Hey Steve does this tranny have enough ratio for your scraper's? It's almost a micro Roadranger 8LL LOL!



http://store.rc4wd.com/3-Speed-Full-Metal-Transmission-Black_p_830.html

Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

ihbuilder
01-06-2011, 10:16 PM
Guys , If all goes well I may have a supprise next week end :D I'm slowly getting out of this lil depressed state and pondered on how to get the pan to work with what I got :) well almost I just got to come up with at least 2 more esc,s and a servo arm . It's killing me not to see this bugger running .

IHSteve

ihbuilder
01-07-2011, 06:49 PM
here's some pics . touching up the paint a little and mounting a 1/4 size sevo for steering . I made a screw drive for the bowl lift and will do the same for the ejector . I have a 3racing winch I'm thinking of using for the apron .

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0781.jpg

made the a/c top while I was making truck a/c and tlt hubs since it was the same mtrl.

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/PIC_0782.jpg

I'm going to stuff more pipe wrap ins. in the tires and see if that helps , (it should )

IHSteve

JAMMER
01-07-2011, 07:05 PM
Looking good Steve are you going to bring a pan to York? I willsee you thers next week.Ed;)

ihbuilder
01-07-2011, 07:47 PM
Looking good Steve are you going to bring a pan to York? I willsee you thers next week.Ed;)

It's coming , I'm trying to at least get it so I can drive it around and maybe operate just the bowl by hand at the very least .

IHSteve

D8R
01-08-2011, 11:51 AM
Nice model, more is better, will look good running togheter. Where will battery be, look realy tight under the hoods? Have had my thought of converting the 463 into a DW20 combo but couldn´t figure out where all shoud fit, maybee possible with electric drive.
Looking forward to photos from the meet.
Dan

SmallHaul
01-08-2011, 12:10 PM
looks good Steve.

What 1/4 scale servo are you using? If it is a hitec digital servo, I have a hitec digital servo programmer and if you program the servo to 180degrees of rotation you can attach the steering linkage closer to the center of the servo and get almost twice the power out of it and still have good throw.

sneaky-pete
01-08-2011, 12:11 PM
This thing is a beast!
I need to use this in my wife's garden this spring...lol

ihbuilder
01-08-2011, 12:26 PM
thanks D8 I'll prob. eventually enclose the cab and put 1 batt there and stuff the rear 1 in the back . it's supposed to have 2 receivers and 2 esc's so I do not have to run wires through the bowl . but for now I will till I get everything I need .

looks good Steve.

What 1/4 scale servo are you using? If it is a hitec digital servo, I have a hitec digital servo programmer and if you program the servo to 180degrees of rotation you can attach the steering linkage closer to the center of the servo and get almost twice the power out of it and still have good throw.


Scott , It's a hpi sl? 10mg . I got the arm coming :) I may get the funds I need for the 2 esc to be able to use it http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-confused-smileys-423.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html)I'm just hopping to get them in time when I order them .


This thing is a beast!
I need to use this in my wife's garden this spring...lol

LOL :D:p


IHSteve

Izzy
01-09-2011, 06:26 AM
Scott - that's a great idea - didn't know that was even possible .....must store this one away for future problems.....

dirtpusher9
01-09-2011, 08:54 PM
Steve, I think you need to quit the truck parts and build you equipment so we can see it running. It looks good, but you are stringing it out to long on us. lol

ihbuilder
01-09-2011, 08:56 PM
well looks like I will be running this thing :) UNLESS the esc's do not come in time . I got the bowl lifting and the ejector drive unit just about done just got another bar to run on the lathe for wheels then I can finnish the ejector then just the apron lift :still thinking : I'm kinda sacraficing some scale look for now till I can start to get hydro components made or bought (not sure yet )

IHSteve

ihbuilder
01-09-2011, 08:58 PM
Steve, I think you need to quit the truck parts and build you equipment so we can see it running. It looks good, but you are stringing it out to long on us. lol

LOL , where you been long time no see :eek:

td9clyde
01-10-2011, 04:03 PM
scraper is lookin goooood i was thinkin about makin screw drives for mine but i think i will just wait and make it hydralic just gonna cost me an arm and a leg for the valves wish i could get ambitous to work on anything

ihbuilder
01-23-2011, 08:15 PM
Know what your saying Henry well as some of you know I didn't make cabin fever :( but 2 good things came out of not making the show :D those pics will come later ;) well after I pick the 2nd item up tomorrow . Anyway , while loading a vid to put in my truck listing I finally uploaded the bowl lift vid .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfsNml2cXbA

not as smooth as I like :( but it will do till I get more time and parts designed and made for it ;)

thanks for looking
IHSteve

SmallHaul
01-23-2011, 08:24 PM
Nice power Steve!

That machine is sooo heavy it should shave earth easily.:D

fhhhstix
01-23-2011, 09:20 PM
Looks good Steve your getting there slowly but your getting there.

Travis

Snochaser
01-23-2011, 09:40 PM
Nice Steve, you'll be able to run shale through that with the weight and strength.

Izzy
01-23-2011, 10:05 PM
I like Steve - plenty of power and not too fast so it makes nice clean cuts

What's left to do?;)

ihbuilder
01-27-2011, 04:14 PM
Nice power Steve!

That machine is sooo heavy it should shave earth easily.:D

Looks good Steve your getting there slowly but your getting there.

Travis

Nice Steve, you'll be able to run shale through that with the weight and strength.

I like Steve - plenty of power and not too fast so it makes nice clean cuts

What's left to do?;)

thanks guys yea she'll load well can push me across the floor :eek: Chris ,I got a lot more to do :( but it went back on the shelf again like all my stuff :( I got to much to do and deal with right now and get everyone's stuff made . the list keeps getting longer :rolleyes:

IHSteve

rc_farmer
01-28-2011, 02:03 AM
Steve, you are doing a great job, can't wait to see you cut some mud!

td9clyde
02-08-2011, 09:02 PM
Steve ........hows things going? haven't seen any update pics lately hows your 40 comming along?

ihbuilder
02-08-2011, 10:28 PM
Steve, you are doing a great job, can't wait to see you cut some mud!

yea I can't either


Steve ........hows things going? haven't seen any update pics lately hows your 40 comming along?

back on the shelf for now Henry , same with the 40 . I kinda got this new toy and got to get it making some dough and right now It's got me a little :confused: trying to figure why it will not come off em stop error 04 it seems 2 servo amps where replaced within months of each other but 1 does not appear to have been replaced . Also trying to figure out how a running machine before I bought it ( saw a vid of it running maybe this 1 or the 1 they still use :confused: ) and not when I set it up :confused: 1 referb amp $1000.00 for glentek and $350.00 for a rebuilt SD1525-16 which I think is OEM :eek: not only that , I got orders and trying to get some of these trls wrapped up and out of the shop till I decide to light them up :D .

Steve

ihbuilder
02-09-2011, 11:39 AM
well lucky for me :) there's nothing wrong with the mill now I just need phase conversion for the spindle :) turns out I forgot a wire when separating the control from the power switch for the whole machine . :o

IHSteve

ihbuilder
02-26-2011, 06:46 PM
I'm wrapping up my highway truck building and coming back to my construction equip. :) . after sometime on pondering this build ,I decided to change the motors ( to slow ) When I got the motors , I over looked the output speed of the motor being reduced by the differentials :( . since I'm taking the motor I was going to use in the TD40B I need replacements :) these are the right size to go side by side and got plenty of room to play with gears ratios and multi-speed trans. :) Also I'm going to bite the bullet and buy the hydros .

Steve

ihbuilder
12-18-2011, 10:43 PM
I put this back on the bench after I saw Steve do a motor swap on his tunarocker ;) I had 2 motor siting around with double the speed as the original , so did a motor swap and Stevie is a happy camper :D I was going to try to get it going for cabin fever and supprise everyone but As always not enough time to do both pan and mack :( we'll see how it goes though :confused:

ihbuilder
12-24-2012, 04:02 PM
I got er done :D:D:D:p:p:p:p:p but It shrunk :confused:

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file-43.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file-42.jpg

did some push with the 25 :p

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file-44.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file-45.jpg


I needed this to get some details figured out in the gooseneck area and the steering . Looks like I'll be needing to remake the gooseneck to get the steering right :(

td9clyde
12-24-2012, 04:09 PM
i seen those at tri state tractor show lol nice try Steve can't pull a fast one that easy :p :D nice models though

ihbuilder
12-08-2013, 10:04 PM
now I know what was under all that dust in the corner :rolleyes:

I started on remaking the gooseneck . The block in the vise is 5"x3.5" x 24" still need to finish the top and flip and cut the underside out .

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zpsbbe882c5.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zpseab67b5a.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zps915e9cd1.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zps0bdac515.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zpse763227e.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zpsb54b33d6.jpg

till next time :)

RCP57
12-08-2013, 10:31 PM
I was getting worried about you! I thought you were too busy making money and forgot that you have to build yourself some stuff to keep it fun:rolleyes:. All joking aside, I'm happy to see you milling some parts again for one of your many projects! It's not the same around here when we don't have your "updates" to look at.

Snochaser
12-08-2013, 10:31 PM
Keep the chips flyin'. Pokie!! Looks good.

ihbuilder
12-09-2013, 09:18 PM
I was getting worried about you! I thought you were too busy making money and forgot that you have to build yourself some stuff to keep it fun:rolleyes:. All joking aside, I'm happy to see you milling some parts again for one of your many projects! It's not the same around here when we don't have your "updates" to look at.

making $$ :confused::confused: problem is I enjoy makin stuff that I get to many ideas goin at once :rolleyes: . I know I can make this werk just need to keep at er .

Keep the chips flyin'. Pokie!! Looks good.

thanks ben waitin for more brass to come in :(

ihbuilder
12-09-2013, 09:33 PM
More setup pics, finished part - the welding , and comparison pics

first is setup to face the outside . I don't have a sine plate so a lil improvising ;) the facing was done manually no need to waist time programing that :rolleyes: I did a lot of setups do to what I had in long (lack of ) length end mills :(

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zps1ae26cd1.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zpsb5c3da0c.jpg

cut out last op
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zps759c2301.jpg

what I couldn't do with the 1st neck
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zps01f1f338.jpg

1:25
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zpsdfc5d4dd.jpg

comparisons
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zps6a3eeb0f.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zpsb443bc31.jpg

cpt jack running the 1:25 :p

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zpsf52b5661.jpg

till next time ;)

ihbuilder
12-09-2013, 09:43 PM
I did make the new wheels for it over a year ago (dust :thinking:):rolleyes:just never posted them . The caps are programed just need to put a plate in the vise and cut .

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zpsf4e617e9.jpg

Stefan
12-10-2013, 10:39 AM
Great work!

dabears
12-10-2013, 11:00 AM
Glad to see your back at this one!!! Cant wait to see more shavings flyin

Espeefan
12-10-2013, 11:55 AM
I love watching parts being machined. The new neck looks great, and I like those models too. First Gear replicas?

modelman
12-11-2013, 07:08 PM
Nice work steve-your old part probably looks more like the real thing from the old days :D. CNC makes a nice part though.

Dieselchopper
12-11-2013, 07:16 PM
Looking good, just not so sure about your operator choice..........

dirtpusher9
12-11-2013, 07:31 PM
Well, these scrapers may get a life after all. Nice work Steve.

404
12-12-2013, 03:26 AM
Looking good, just not so sure about your operator choice..........

It's ok, he has a keira knightley doll for the other one.

ihbuilder
12-22-2013, 10:39 PM
Well, these scrapers may get a life after all. Nice work Steve.

yea eventually :( other things been taking precedence :( . Which can be good and bad at the same time :confused:. room is a big issue on these :( I want to do the trans and diff arrangements but where to put the rest of the components :confused: Gear motor axles are looking more practical :(

JAKEBRAKE
03-27-2014, 08:08 AM
Very nice build, I wondered how it was going to take to see some scrapers being built!! I can't to see a video of these scrapers working together!!