Cab over dump and pup (update pup replaced with a new trailer)

[fhhhstix]

I have decided to build a day cab cabover dump truck and pup trailer. I am going to post this in steps so new guys can see what all goes into building it.

Cutting the cab up and putting it back together.

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/th_IM000634.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/?action=view&current=IM000634.flv)

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/th_IM000636.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/?action=view&current=IM000636.flv)

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/IM000643.jpg

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/IM000681a.jpg

Thanks for looking
Travis Biddle

[Roadmasters]

Cab looks great, cutting cabs on the table saw must save alot of time! What blade are you using?

[fhhhstix]

The blade is a 120 tooth finish blade.

[fhhhstix]

Next comes the truck kit and building the frame. It will be AWD with a RC4WD R2 trans, axial trans for transfer case, and a TLT axle for the front.

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Locker for rear axle.

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Frame assembled.

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More to come thanks for looking.
Travis Biddle

[Roadmasters]

Love this thing!!

[JAMMER]

Travas is this the one you put the dump box on?Ed

[fhhhstix]

Yes it is Ed I am just doing a build thread for anybody on here that might not have seen it but I am glad it made enough impresion on you that you remembered it.

[fhhhstix]

Here are some more pics of the progress.

Screw drives for the truck and pup.

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/IM000679.jpg

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http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/IM000699.jpg

Thanks for looking.
Travis Biddle

[Roadmasters]

Looks great!!

[fhhhstix]

Thanks Arioch but havent you seen this one before.

[JAMMER]

Travis were are the pictures of the pup? That hole outfit looked great. Ed

[fhhhstix]

Ed I am doing a build thread for the guys who have not seen it yet so there will be more to come I am doing it in segments.

[cummingsman29]

were did you get the parts to build the screw drive? i have no clue were to get any of the things I need to build a dumper.:confused:

[fhhhstix]

Donny here are some pics of the stuff you will need to build a screw drive.

First get some rails from Lowe's it is actually 1/2in cap for ply wood.
Next get some delrin to make the slide
Next get a piece of 10-32 all thread and a 10-32 furniture nut and a thrust bearing it is the blue piece at the end of the screw drive by the nut.
next get at least a 50:1 gear motor and a coupler to hook the motor to the gear motor. I use an all thread nut and drill it for two set screws.

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I hope this helps.
Travis Biddle

[cummingsman29]

so i can get all that stuff at lowes?

[fhhhstix]

The delrin, gear motor , and thust bearing will have to come from somewhere else. I get the gear motor from PMD and the thrust bearing is from my local hobby shop and the delrin is from a local plastic suplier the same place I get the styrene.

[JAMMER]

Travis I'm sorry my bad. Ed

[fhhhstix]

More progress pics of the build.

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/IM000710.jpg

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A couple of videos.

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/th_IM000702.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/?action=view&current=IM000702.flv)

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/th_IM000703.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/?action=view&current=IM000703.flv)

Thats it for now thanks for looking.

Travis

[tamiya_trucker]

Looking good there Travis! What color you gonna paint her?

[fhhhstix]

The truck will be light blue matalic.:)

Travis

[fhhhstix]

Pic's of the progress on the pup.

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Thanks for looking.

Travis

[nenard]

It looks to be but I'll ask anyway. Are the screw drives less fuss and muss than the hydros? It seems as it would also be more cost effective. would the motors power decide how much the dump could lift? Sorry for all the ?'s but Ive been looking at the Carson setup and the one sold at GT and they aint cheap. Thanks!

[Izzy]

the power of the dump is tied to the power of the motor - including the gear drive - but more importantly the angle of the push rod. Think of it as a triangle - the base frame - the push rod - the bed fo the dump. The more open the triangle the easier it is to drive - more flat or closed the triangle the worse it gets

[fhhhstix]

It looks to be but I'll ask anyway. Are the screw drives less fuss and muss than the hydros? It seems as it would also be more cost effective. would the motors power decide how much the dump could lift? Sorry for all the ?'s but Ive been looking at the Carson setup and the one sold at GT and they aint cheap. Thanks!

Just as Izzy said the motor, Gear reduction unit, angle of the push rod, and pitch of the thread all make a difference in how well it works. There is a member on here named mustang that used one of the carson scissor lifts and he likes it but you have to notch out the frame to get it to fit. As for hyd cylinders I have one hyd lift dump truck and the way I built the thing hyd's were the best choise but I WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN!!!

the power of the dump is tied to the power of the motor - including the gear drive - but more importantly the angle of the push rod. Think of it as a triangle - the base frame - the push rod - the bed fo the dump. The more open the triangle the easier it is to drive - more flat or closed the triangle the worse it gets

Thanks for the input Izzy these tips are what helped me get my dump trailer working.:cool:

[nenard]

Ive got a dump project goin but its kinda silly to have a dump that dosent dump. Thanks for the answers guys. I know I'll have more questions as your build progresses.

[roadranger]

Great build thread, Travis!

Gotta ask - what are you using for driveshafts, and where do you buy them?

Can't find anything like those around here at local hobby shops...

[fhhhstix]

Great build thread, Travis!

Gotta ask - what are you using for driveshafts, and where do you buy them?

Can't find anything like those around here at local hobby shops...



Go to your local hobby shop and go to the Traxxas section they are the long slide shafts for the Stampead and rustler you can buy them in packages of 6. Here is a link.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJH85&P=7

And the yokes in this link go real well with them they are able to transfer more power to the axle than the axle can handle without breaking.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJG59&P=M

[Diesel Demond]

thats gonna be cool!

[fhhhstix]

Here are some final pics of the build.

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/IM000740-1.jpg

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http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/th_IM000834.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/?action=view&current=IM000834.flv)

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Travis

[Bsorenson79]

The truck looks great! You have my vote for build of the month! I was wondering what Rpm the dump motor is?

[fhhhstix]

Thanks the motor in the truck dump mechanism is a 300rpm motor but I have know idea what is in the pup I used a cordless screwdriver from Wall Mart.

Travis

[Bsorenson79]

Once again thank you for your help! I got everything together for my dump project (thanks to you). I found a good web site with gear box motors. http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/motors_geared.html

[fhhhstix]

I sold the pup dump trailer so I needed a new trailer for the truck to pull. I decided I would try to build a bumper pull equipment trailer and this is what I came up with. I still need to build the ramps and the mechanism to raise and lower them.

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Cab%20over%20dump/100_1238.jpg

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Thanks for looking.
Travis

[Stylin n profilin]

NICE!!!! That is "SWEET" You da man Travy!!:D:D:cool::cool::cool::cool:

[Izzy]

Awesome - that's a great combo! Are the axels your regular independent style?

[fhhhstix]

NICE!!!! That is "SWEET" You da man Travy!!:D:D:cool::cool::cool::cool:

Thanks John I have been wanting to build it for a while and just decided today would be a good day to start on it.:D

Awesome - that's a great combo! Are the axels your regular independent style?

Yep these are more of my home made swing axles.:D

Travis

[Stylin n profilin]

"START" on it...:eek::eek::eek: it looks like it needs some d-rings, mudflaps, and DOT tape..and down the road it goes..:eek::eek::D:D:p:p

[Snochaser]

Great job fiddlesticks! Your fit and finish just keeps getting better! Great idea, that's a heavy haul tag-a-long. I wish I could crack em out like you do.

Ben

[fhhhstix]

"START" on it...:eek::eek::eek: it looks like it needs some d-rings, mudflaps, and DOT tape..and down the road it goes..:eek::eek::D:D:p:p

Don't forget the lights.:p:D

Great job fiddlesticks! Your fit and finish just keeps getting better! Great idea, that's a heavy haul tag-a-long. I wish I could crack em out like you do.

Ben

Thanks snowball! I have a lot of ideas running through my head but not enough time or money for all of them. This was a kind of a simple one for something different.

Travis

[heavy_duty]

Travis,you are the man.I want one those sooo baddd.We need to talk.Great Job.

Ed

[RCTech9]

Nice project! What color are you going to paint it?

[fhhhstix]

Travis,you are the man.I want one those sooo baddd.We need to talk.Great Job.

Ed

Thanks Ed, we can do that. After building this one there are a few thing I would do different to make the next one perfect but that is how you learn trial and error.

Nice project! What color are you going to paint it?

I will probably paint it black if I paint it the silver is starting to grow on me.

Travis

[Tamiya Cowboy]

wow now that is really nice looking great job buddy..

[fhhhstix]

Thanks Paul I hope to get more done on it tomorrow.

Travis

[FabOne]

Look'in Good Travis! Like they said, add a little detail (D-rings, ODOT tape, etc) and you're ready for the road!


P.S. Paint it "BLACK"

-Terry

[SWAGGER]

This thing looks amazing! Well done - BUT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uj9sduV3k8&feature=related

[td9clyde]

looks great !!!! i was wondering when some one was going to build a tag trailer looks good to me doubt i can get ya to haul my euc. lol:D

[Claus]

Travis instead of ramps make it a tilt top, you could do a screw drive or gravity.