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PetervR
09-05-2012, 02:53 AM
As you might know a truck with a hood is no so usual as on the us side off the great pond.
like the pete 320 what I was posting about earlier. This truck is not the most likely to have a model build off.
at the pete cab posts I talked about the euro roll off. I thought It was time to show that one. I hope It's in working order at the show we have end october

the build started 7 years ago. the idea was to get a leimbach "hook system".
and have a finished model real quick. that was a wrong idea.
first the build of the cab. is was made of balsa wood.

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4515/pvrnat4.jpg

made to a almoust perfect finish,

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1897/pict0237xr.jpg

to make a resin mould.
the resin cab is a good copy of the wooden one.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6990/nat11.jpg

the chassis was made from rectangular tube in the wedico size.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4074/neus41.jpg.
the frontaxle is from wedico. the driven axles from robbe. the suspention I made myself. like most parts of the truck.

the truck was driving and with a simple dumpbox
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4866/natkipper.JPG

at this moment there are 2 drawbar trailers in construction for this truck.
the easier one is a modified bruder lowboy.

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/536/afb0908kl.jpg
It is narrowed en shortend. and an axle added.

the second trailer is not that far in the build.
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/6971/nieuweaanhanger.jpg
this is what is suppost to look like when it's finished.
but this is what it looks like now
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6011/20120902154309kl.jpg

the truck is not having a hooksystem. it has a chain system fitted now.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1769/20120812092755kl.jpg

it works like this.
the rollerchain is going round. at some point there are 2 other chains fixed to te rollerchain. witch can hang down to te ground.
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1050/20120811174100kl.jpg.

and there is a hookup plate fixed to the front of the containerskid.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9485/20120819164803kl.jpg

this way the truck is able to pickup the containerskid. when is working well, the driver can stay in the cab. so it's perfect for rc models.

more next time

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1904/20120812210330kl.jpg

gtz PetervR

glorydays24
09-05-2012, 05:42 PM
Very fine job.:);):cool: That's a good looking work horse.:D:D:D

Big John

Bigrigger
09-05-2012, 10:00 PM
Very interesting build! All the hand-made parts make it even more impressive! What did you use to make the resin model of the cab?

PROBUILDER1964
09-05-2012, 11:15 PM
Well..I'm impressed ! What a great job PetervR I wish I could learn how to do a casting like that....Wow the things we could achieve....well here is the proof !

PetervR
09-06-2012, 06:13 AM
hi
any cab is posible. once you have build a prototype like I did with balsa wood. balsa is easy to cut gleu bend an sand down, after that, getting is smooth with filler and paint.
when the cab is finished, gleu it in a box. fill the box with "silicone for casting molds"
in this case i filled the inside too with the silicone. getting the balsa cab out off the mold was the end of that cab. it came out in little peices. but having the mold that was not that bit of a deal.
after that putting the mold right side up. and fill it with pu-resin.

any cab is possible.
a few I made.
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8472/afb0925kl.jpg
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/5841/3300en3600.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1715/afb0880kl.jpg
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3277/afb0168kl.jpg.

about the rolloff. I didn't want to use hydraulics, there issn't room for a spindel in the chassis.
so I needed to find something else. By builing the hyster forklift i had the solution.

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7792/20120826114621kl.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/74/20120826114639kl.jpg

the mechanical "cilinders" are in 3 pieces, and work based on pulling a wire. the first part is fixed to the chassis. and over the first part runs a wire that pulls the second part up. the third part is fixed to the boom, to pull that one up. there is a wire fixed to the first part and runs over the top of the second part to the bottom of the third part.
so pulling a wire with a winch, makes the boom go up.

to be continued

grz PetervR

Izzy
09-06-2012, 04:47 PM
DAF - do you have much power loss on the cable system due to the many small diameter turns? The smallest cable I have found here is 1/16 to 3/32" and it is multi strand stainless. The min radius is about 1/4".

Izzy

PetervR
09-07-2012, 01:52 AM
hi
I use nylon fishing wire.
and by hand it does run smooth and not heavy at all.
I don't have pullies at the turns. but the turns are made over a 1,5mm brass rod.
there is room for improvment when nessesery. to put small pullys in. but not much room
the test run with a load on and under power is jet to be done.
I did use the wire and winch earlyer on a bruder model. and it took the load easy. and as a bonus it tore the bruder model apart.
at this point it just wait and see, even for me.

grtz PetervR

PetervR
09-25-2012, 03:50 AM
Hi
lately I've been doing some work on the tippingtrailer. and some small work on the truck.
The truck was waiting for some electric bits and pieces. they have arived. so I've got to do some wirering next weekend.
the truck just got new front rims, an new rearbumper and the dashboard added.
http://imageshack.us/a/img14/4920/20120921140335kl.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img11/6933/20120921140351kl.jpg

the trailer is nearly ready. the only thing now is to make it brand new, or like it's 10 years old.
http://imageshack.us/a/img21/201/20120923122120kl.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img543/9700/20120923212702kl.jpg

if the trailer is gooing to look 10 years old. the truck should look like that to. the "used but looked after" look

gtz PetervR

crawler07
09-25-2012, 10:37 PM
good work man those cabs are all cool!

PetervR
10-22-2012, 06:01 AM
Hi the build is a bit further now.
at the show last weekend I made some movies.
here is the first one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG5N3ujyUKA

it just needs some tweeking

gtz PetervR

PetervR
10-29-2012, 04:13 AM
I had some practice on the weathering of an cab.
this 2800 is nog going to have a must a the cab i practiced on.
the look for that cab. was "left at the back of the yard for a year or 2" waiting for a donor truck or the breaker

a few pictures.

http://imageshack.us/a/img822/2435/20121027111159kl.jpg
the clean cab.

http://imageshack.us/a/img89/669/20121027112427kl.jpg
I first added some braun, not from rust, but the stuff that happens to fiberglass panels when trees are around.

http://imageshack.us/a/img194/3246/20121027113204kl.jpg
some grey added to the effect.

http://imageshack.us/a/img31/6302/20121027125745kl.jpg
and moss grows in a few months so I added green.
maybe not the right color green yet.
but hey It's my first attemt.

there is a thing on youtube with a tarp. I want to try on the truck.
and I want to add a bird of two. and all the stains they produce.

next up is a bruder container I want to have a well used look.
when I'm happy withe that result I want to try to age the lowdeck trailer of the 2800

any comments on the weathering are welcom.

grz PetervR

PetervR
10-31-2012, 03:09 AM
Hi
I is hard to stop weathering, and it's easy to go wrong. in case of this cab. it's not meant to go on a truck again. maybe it gets its place next to a workshop on shows. I had read that dark colors are hard to get a weathered look on. but the cab was in these colors. zo I had to deal with it.

gtz Peter

PetervR
11-01-2012, 04:38 AM
next was a bruder container that is getting a used look.
this is suposed to look like is't still in use. but for a long time already.
one thing what needs my attention. the origial bleu in the hard to reach places. really stand out in the picture.
first up was the flat grey.
http://imageshack.us/a/img834/574/20121031193003kl.jpg

after that I did the rear.

http://imageshack.us/a/img211/3190/20121031204447kl.jpg

and with doing the label section I got the idea to do my logo on the side.

http://imageshack.us/a/img41/8251/20121031204433kl.jpg.

the front and other side have to be worked on. and maybe it's going to be an open top container. than I also have to do the inside.

grz Peter

PetervR
03-21-2013, 11:33 PM
getting a little bit further with the 2800.
the heavy trailer is nearly compleet.
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/1315/aanhanger4a.jpg

on show with a flatbed, and the heavy trailer

http://imageshack.us/a/img407/5716/2800met4asser.jpg

gtx PetervR

Stuff
03-22-2013, 07:27 AM
looks good!

rcman
03-22-2013, 02:01 PM
wow looks great! weathering turned out good. love how you made your own cab very cool build

PetervR
05-07-2013, 05:30 AM
some new video's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h70qTLbsWxY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbY42JS16MY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NVdigYC2ho

the 3axle trailer is changed. the drawbar is set even lower. and the truck and trailer have fenders on the rear wheels now.
the front fender for the trailer will have a cornerlight on. I'm just figuring out how to do that.
and I need to put some brake's on the trailer.

gtz PetervR

Seilbagger
05-09-2013, 04:03 AM
Hello Peter,

built, not bought. Therefore i love this kind of modelling. The cabs are very cool and looks great. Very well done with the roll off system.

PetervR
05-14-2013, 08:14 AM
I'm trying to do the best I can.
the roll off system is working. but far from ready. everytime it's used some other bit to make better is found.

gtz Peter

PetervR
07-01-2013, 08:37 AM
this weekend we had a show. unforunatly no skid with sand. so we had taken the offroad trucks and machine's to the show. most of it sat unused on the table.
I was able to shoot some video's
this is one where the small dozer is climbing the old trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOMbw9wers0.

I know it's short.

grtz Peter

Stuff
07-01-2013, 11:13 AM
long time dream of mine is to have a roll off truck and 4 wheel wagon just like the guys here have for the recycle trucks.

PetervR
09-25-2013, 01:40 PM
it was helping out in the garden but the load got stuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8EdymdbbMg

doodlebug
09-25-2013, 09:45 PM
it was helping out in the garden but the load got stuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8EdymdbbMg

Hi Peter, have you considered hiding a few rocks in the front of the load?, to help push the branches out.
Yes, some little helpers.
Cheers, Neil.

PetervR
10-19-2017, 06:32 AM
this topic needs an update. several thing have changed after the last post.
but the truck is also going to get an overhaul. the cab's paint is not going to get refreshed.
after being the workhorse the last few years it collected a lot of dust, lose or even broken off parts.
most other things will be moved. replaced or finally painted.
the biggest thing is the position of the electronics under the hood is going to be moved to a spot along the frame. the servo driving the chain is going to be replaced with an micromotor. now its a3 kg servo. it will a 16kg micromotor. not that the 3kg isn't enough. the micromotor is smaller. more like the size of the real thing.
the chain to pick-up the skid need some work. It will still be that workhorse. but it will look a bit better.

I'll tahe and post a lot of pictures

Grtz PetervR

PetervR
10-20-2017, 04:39 AM
just some pictures of the present state of it.

http://www.pvr-modelbouw.nl/daf2800520102017.jpg
that excavator was just going the same way as I was. and no need of an empty trailer.

http://www.pvr-modelbouw.nl/daf2800220102017.jpg
the cab doesn't fit after a quick repair. one of the esc's spuwed the misterious grey smoke. it probebly got to hot under the hood.


http://www.pvr-modelbouw.nl/daf2800120102017.jpg
this is how the electronics look now.


http://www.pvr-modelbouw.nl/daf2800320102017.jpg

http://www.pvr-modelbouw.nl/daf2800420102017.jpg
the rear of the chassis

grtz PetervR

egronvold
10-21-2017, 04:00 PM
A very interesting build :)

PetervR
11-06-2017, 04:07 AM
HI
I had in mind to show you a compleet exploded view of this truck. completly disassembled.
but the truth is a bit differend. To this stage I have the rear fenders off.

http://www.pvr-modelbouw.nl/2800106112017.jpg

and I'm getting them ready for the rearlights. and trailer connections. the one in the picture will have an xt30 connecter for the trailer. The other rearfender will also have a connector but an other type and an other function.

http://www.pvr-modelbouw.nl/2800206112017.jpg

all the electronics will have a new place on the chassis, and I have found an old robbe tyre and an old wedico rim. They are going to be the spare, and I need to make room for that.

http://www.pvr-modelbouw.nl/2800306112017.jpg

the size of the plastic box and the gardrail are not what's supposed to be on a truck from the first half of the 80's, they will be made "periode correct".

grtz PetervR

PetervR
11-15-2017, 03:01 AM
just found some time to make the sparewheel holder.

http://www.pvr-modelbouw.nl/2800115112017.jpg

the new electronicsbox is next.

PetervR
11-23-2017, 05:45 AM
the basic electonics box and spare wheel mounted on the chassis.

http://www.pvr-modelbouw.nl/280023112017.jpg

both will get some extra details and paint later on.