Wa 500 Rebuild

[JDH429]

Recently purchased a Stahl Loader , my first piece of rc equipment, from a great member of the board. It operated great although i didnt like a few things about it and decided to tear into it to learn how it works and fix a few things at the same time. Its turned into a slight redesign since i started. So heres some pics of where im at so far.

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Digging for screws..at this point im pretty sure im not using these parts again.. :rolleyes:

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Blasted some parts

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Cutting some new arms from 3/16" plate. Added 1/2" to front length to raise the bucket height a little.

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Plasma cutter, my favorite tool. Free hand cuts.

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Dusted both sides of the arms to get them flat.

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Making the front axle mount. Made it from round stock so i could bore the ID to contour the Diff.

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[Azonic]

Wow, nice job man!

I bet this will turn out to be a great thread, keep it up! :)

[Espeefan]

Very nice Jason! I'll be watching this one for sure! Glad you picked this machine up, when it was listed for sale. I'm really looking forward to seeing you rebuild it. The Stahl WA500s are nice machines. To be really perfect and scale models, I think they just need a little massaging. Just a few extras here and there. What else do you have planned for it, in terms of detail parts? You've got a heck of a machine shop at your disposal. Surface grinder and all!

[JDH429]

Thank you!

Id actually be open to suggestions for details to add...I guess i do have a few things id like to do...Maybe fenders for the rear. I may rebuild the steps and platforms, these are falling apart. Replacing the blue glass with clear lexan and make a new counter weight from a solid steel block...Oh want to make a new radiator grill, maybe something from black screen..? Want a quick release too! But havent found any info yet on how to make one of those. Make a hub cap with a new wheel face which is more scale looking...but i dont think our indexing chuck for the mill is any good..havent looked at it in years. We have 10 cnc turret lathes that could do that but they are all running high production jobs and rarely have any open time. I may have to draw something up and just tell the set up guy next time to" make this".. Oh and gonna print out a driver..too bad i dont have a scanner, Id scan myself and make ME the driver. :)

[Espeefan]

Very cool, Jason. While you're at it, you should basically re-make the entire main chassis out of steel. More weight, more traction. :D As for the details, just look at the real WA500 loaders and add what you see. Mirrors, light buckets coming off the frame area where the loader arm pivot bushings are, and nicer hand rails. That rear grille could use some detail too. Don't forget the windshield wiper! Any place to can get rid of the scew heads, definitely consider it. Nothing ruins a scale model like phillips head screws sticking out of a sheet metal body, where there shouldn't be any visible. Weld things together instead. It almost looks like you already made the front half of the chassis out of steel and welded it?

[Lil Giants]

Gosh!! the tools & the knowledge you have at your disposal, I'm envious. :)

I see you traced some extra arms, were they meant for me too?! :D The added 1/2" length will changed the geometry of the bucket rotation... you'll cross that bridge when you get to it?

I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with for functional improvements. ;) :) :cool:

[JDH429]

Nate, Exactly my thoughts too on the phillips heads lol. And thats what i did. Welded the front end from inside. The light buckets and mirrors are a good idea..Didnt even think about that and wiper too :) But did consider remaking the rest of the chassis out of steel as well..Why not? should be alot easier than the front half. And already its putting on some weight. Heres a few more pics. Scale bolts for the front hatch plate= Cool! Need more of that going on. And Stainless cross supports for the pivot points.. Thanks for commenting!

Joe, Thanks. haha, those extras were my practice pcs. Needed to get my stance and hands working together.. Machine shops have been the family business since my grandfather started it when he was my age. All the manual machines I use are just for our little fab area. Our main business is CNC Grinding.
I thought about that. It shouldnt be a big deal to adjust the geometry. I think its all in the length of the connecting rod for the bucket tilt. Yes ill deal with that in a short while hopefully.

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[RCP57]

Awesome job! I'm just not sure why you spent the money on that loader when you clearly could have (and basically are) scratch building one:confused:? Anyway, I love the work you're doing! Keep it up and keep us posted!

Reg

[Espeefan]

Man, that's awesome Jason! You'll pretty much have a brand new loader when you are done. It looks like you could have bought the gear motors, the hydraulics, and wheels, then built everything else yourself. You definitely have the talent!

[JDH429]

Reg, Nate- Thanks guys, Yes i agree and your right.. but this being my first machine. I wouldnt know where to start. I never even seen one up close till i got this one. im good at copying something...Not good at making up designs without seeing it first..BUT i think im sure i can scratch build my next model and i have been thinking about what size Dozer i want to build. Only hard part about that would be the tracks..Again if i had a track peice to examine i could copy it. I have made plastic track parts with my Printer. I might have to visit the CNC machinist down the street for that. The rest is very doable after attempting this. I look at the cost i spent on this to have been also part of the learning process... Anyone want to buy a used wa500 chassis? lol Thanks for the nice comments.

[Lil Giants]

Yeah, I saw the business name at the bottom of your email weeks ago & looked it up. ;) Quite an occupation you have going on there... you a jack of trades in that shop? owner/operator too?

You sure did a mighty fine job of cutting & shaping that metal. :cool:

[Espeefan]

Reg, Nate- Thanks guys, Yes i agree and your right.. but this being my first machine. I wouldnt know where to start. I never even seen one up close till i got this one. im good at copying something...Not good at making up designs without seeing it first..BUT i think im sure i can scratch build my next model and i have been thinking about what size Dozer i want to build. Only hard part about that would be the tracks..Again if i had a track peice to examine i could copy it. I have made plastic track parts with my Printer. I might have to visit the CNC machinist down the street for that. The rest is very doable after attempting this. I look at the cost i spent on this to have been also part of the learning process... Anyone want to buy a used wa500 chassis? lol Thanks for the nice comments.

Jason, my thoughts exactly, and once you see just what exactly you are getting, when you buy a model like this, it begs the question, are they really worth the cost? Some of the more detailed models might be. Some just seem so simple, with what amounts to stamped aluminum sheets, bolted together, it's hard to justify the asking price. But for those of us who don't have the talent, or tools, to scratchbuild our own, we can't complain to much! :D

[JDH429]

Yeah, I saw the business name at the bottom of your email weeks ago & looked it up. ;) Quite an occupation you have going on there... you a jack of trades in that shop? owner/operator too?

You sure did a mighty fine job of cutting & shaping that metal. :cool:

Joe, I have my own shop on the end of the building were I do all the repairs, and fab/ welding for the rest of the shop, whatever to keep the business rolling. Theres always something needing fixed or made. And in tge past few years we have started to focus on automation so that is good practice for scratch building and it requires all the essential tools for making stuff. i dont have much programming experince but i like the change of pace doing everything else.My father is the founder and my brother and I are co owners. I don't run a machine any more, not for ten years now. I'm glad we grew to the point were we hire operators to run the high pro machines. I can't stand in the same place all day long.

Nate, I know right? Stamped aluminum sheet screwed together.... Can you imagine my surprise when first getting a look at this loader? Lol. I immediately thought what you just said. ! But I'd have to say this is a rather complex model..? Maybe not as intricate as an excavator but its got some engineering into it. Just needs more meat on it. So that's what I'm doing. I originally didn't set out to scratch build a loader.. But after seeing this one I knew I could improve it and the Bondo wasn't sitting well with me, there's no way to take this apart easily to fix something if I had left it. And maybe ill add some value to it by doing this. It's fun tho..the building part. I think I enjoy that more than actually driving it... Well that's to be determined yet.. I think I finally found an interest in something( rc construction) that will keep me interested. Glad I found this board too. Wish I could have learned the basics from the original garden trucking board. This board seems to be the next level where maybe a lot of basics have been left on the old board. But still the best place to currently be.

[RCTech9]

Nice work! This will be really cool.

[WhiteWolf McBride]

So, JDH,

After you've basically replicated it to your own machined specs, what you going to do with the original? Re-assemble it and sell it? Or re-assemble it and shelf-queen it?

Just curious. I doubt I'll ever be able to afford one of these hydraulics, besty I could afford would be one of the styrene/electric ones, for show, not work.

Will enjoy the rebuild, and wishing I had access to such a shop. I like DIY.

WhiteWolf

[Lil Giants]

once you see just what exactly you are getting, when you buy a model like this, it begs the question, are they really worth the cost? Some of the more detailed models might be. Some just seem so simple, with what amounts to stamped aluminum sheets, bolted together, it's hard to justify the asking price. But for those of us who don't have the talent, or tools, to scratchbuild our own, we can't complain to much! :D

It's not STAMPED aluminum, it has been milled, cut & bent precisely so when everything is put together it's symetrical & runs true... plus all the R&D to get it to this point of a proven working concept.

[Espeefan]

It's not STAMPED aluminum, it has been milled, cut & bent precisely so when everything is put together it's symetrical & runs true... plus all the R&D to get it to this point of a proven working concept.

Joe, no offense, but I don't think either one of us could say we know for sure. :D The thicker components of the WA500 probably are CNC machined, but I would also wager that the thinner components are stamped. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Stamping yields high quality parts, held to tight and accurate tolerances too. Don't think of it as a knock on the quality of the model. The axle mounting brackets for the front axle, the cylinder mounts for the bucket cylinder, the front fenders, the c-channel bracket that the steering cylinders bolt to, the hood, the rock bucket components, and many of the cab parts could have been stamped. Progressive dies can cut, punch holes, and form small parts like these, and do so accurately. I'd almost guarantee you that many of those smaller parts could not be formed with a brake press. The bends would be to close together for the tooling. For a stamping die, it would be a cake walk. You should see what a progressive stamping die can make. You'd be surprised.

[cdm]

those cab panels.... nice alignment! was it user error from somewhere in its life or is that how these fit together?

thats some precise plasma cutting. i love seeing all that talent people have come to light. forces me to keep practicing ';0

[MoRockN]

Very nice thread. You got some good skills my friend. I can't wait to see the finished machine.

[Supermario]

Nice work Jason !
So first you show us your talents with a 3D printer and how well you work with plastic and meanwhile.... Your a master of metal too! :eek::cool::)

To say this loader found a good home is wrong:confused:
This loader has found the RIGHT home for sure! :D

Mario

[Claus]

What can be said that hasn't? Awesome job, great save!

[JDH429]

Rctech, thank you

Whitewolf, I'm using some of the original parts so I wouldn't have everything to reassemble the original for use. Not sure what ill do with the left overs.

Nate, Some milling has been done to certain areas of the plate mostly on the radiuses to help make the bend.. Like the curved section on the upper rear of the front half. I do also think some flat plates could have been stamped but don't know for certain. I would think to cut costs in manufacturing the possibility is high. And to bend all the angled plate for the kit by hand seems unlikely and more probable that progressive stamping would be the typical method of manufacturing.

CDM, the original assemble may have been rushed... I def would have done some things differently.

Morockn, thank you pal. I'm anxious too. I hope it comes back together nice.

Mario, thank you! Very cool to read that. I'm enjoying each little project that all come together to finish this build. I'm no master :) but appreciate the comments and support, I just happen to be familiar with the process and machines used here. I am lucky to have such a nice shop. It's cool when I can use the tools for a fun project like this.

Claus, a save indeed! Thanks for commenting, very appreciated!

[JDH429]

A little progress...literally.


Stainless.

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Heres the first set i was working on that i screwed up later...

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And the second time around..


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And heres a little trick for rounding the edges and getting them close by hand.

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Gonne make some brass bushings yet.

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I had mentioned earlier about making new hub caps that look more prototypical. I designed this and printed it out to see how it looks. It will replace the small yellow cap. Im gonna try to get into the cnc lathe soon, but no rush...still have a way to go before ill need these.

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Anyone have a suggestion for these bearings? I priced them out from BDI and their 40.00 ea....

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[apfubar]

What is their size?

Cheers,
AP

[Lil Giants]

www.bocabearings.com/

[RCLogger]

Your rebuild is great.
What about rollor blade bearing, not sure if they will be the right size though

Greg

[Snochaser]

What a makeover! You're indeed making the machine 100% better IMO. It'll definitely be a much more rugged model. Nice to see your machining skills too. Great job and display of talents.

Ben

[cdm]

flanged abec3 or 5 would be my choice.. ~5-15$ each for most rc sizes.

i have always freehanded the edge curves but thats a great way for when you need it precisely with no room to regrind. thanks for sharing

[Azonic]

Great progress! Always nice to see pics from the process of making the parts, keep em pics coming! :)

[MoRockN]

I just cannot stop looking at your updates, if you keep posting pictures like this then I'm never gonna get any of my machines finished. So much goodness.

[WhiteWolf McBride]

Rctech, thank you

Whitewolf, I'm using some of the original parts so I wouldn't have everything to reassemble the original for use. Not sure what ill do with the left overs.



Seeing the way you are with the average metal parts, the only thing I can see either you not being able to replicate, or not being willing to take a stab at, is the hydraulics, and any odd assemblies.

I'd be happy with her paint-stripped, w/o any of the hydraulics, and even un-assembled, if you (or someone else) were willing to assist with re-assembly. I assume a perfectionist like you is going to strip all those layers of accumulated paint off her before you even consider re-assembly, and a bared beast, less a few pieces, that I could tackle.

Let me know if thats amenable... and I'm still admiring the metal-smithing.

WhiteWolf

[fhhhstix]

JDH429 you are doing a fantastic job on the rebuild, keep up the good work.

Travis

[fhhhstix]

Joe, no offense, but I don't think either one of us could say we know for sure. :D The thicker components of the WA500 probably are CNC machined, but I would also wager that the thinner components are stamped. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Stamping yields high quality parts, held to tight and accurate tolerances too. Don't think of it as a knock on the quality of the model. The axle mounting brackets for the front axle, the cylinder mounts for the bucket cylinder, the front fenders, the c-channel bracket that the steering cylinders bolt to, the hood, the rock bucket components, and many of the cab parts could have been stamped. Progressive dies can cut, punch holes, and form small parts like these, and do so accurately. I'd almost guarantee you that many of those smaller parts could not be formed with a brake press. The bends would be to close together for the tooling. For a stamping die, it would be a cake walk. You should see what a progressive stamping die can make. You'd be surprised.

Nathan the Stahl parts are CNC cut not stamped. What Joe was saying is that Stahl milled relief cuts into the panels to force them to bend where he wanted them to. In the pics below look at the corners and you will see that the parts were milled about half way through where the bends are. He made the cylinder protectors the same way on the blade and even the hinges for the doors. Both my loader and dozer are made this way.

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Stahl%20Dozer/100_1408_zps1c83516e.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/user/brokenb4/media/Stahl%20Dozer/100_1408_zps1c83516e.jpg.html)

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Stahl%20Dozer/100_1410_zpsf32e35b4.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/user/brokenb4/media/Stahl%20Dozer/100_1410_zpsf32e35b4.jpg.html)

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Stahl%20Dozer/100_1425_zpsa87fd90c.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/user/brokenb4/media/Stahl%20Dozer/100_1425_zpsa87fd90c.jpg.html)

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Stahl%20Dozer/100_1433_zpsacadcf73.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/user/brokenb4/media/Stahl%20Dozer/100_1433_zpsacadcf73.jpg.html)

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Stahl%20Dozer/100_1444_zps9a5c23ae.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/user/brokenb4/media/Stahl%20Dozer/100_1444_zps9a5c23ae.jpg.html)

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Stahl%20Dozer/100_1423_zpse6783e5e.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/user/brokenb4/media/Stahl%20Dozer/100_1423_zpse6783e5e.jpg.html)

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss185/brokenb4/Stahl%20Dozer/100_1463_zps104685e9.jpg (http://s574.photobucket.com/user/brokenb4/media/Stahl%20Dozer/100_1463_zps104685e9.jpg.html)

Travis

[Espeefan]

Travis, thanks for information and photos. I guess I'll eat some crow. Pass the ketchup! :)

[JDH429]

Thanks fellas for the comments. That bearing is a 12mm, same one found in a KH kit. Wow, look how crisp those parts that Travis posted pics of are....drool..

Heres a few more pics for you, Azonic, and Morock.

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https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-wSenMyDpO90/UXAYtt1ttPI/AAAAAAAABBo/rjShw2ufW1k/s1084/2013-04-18+09.48.05.jpg

2 hrs later.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-aVSuvtviN4Y/UXAaj7ajpkI/AAAAAAAABB4/ic1TPoOnwCs/s1084/2013-04-18+12.07.18.jpg

[SmallHaul]

Very nice work. You will have one awesome loader when complete!

[Claus]

Your center pin joint look like it is going to be very strong! Wish I could do stuff like that.

[Azonic]

Again, superb job, looks like a clean and sweet shop! Thx for the pics! :)

[JDH429]

Small, Thank you, I hope so.

Azonic, Thank you! Our building is still fairly new. About 5 years old so it is pretty clean compared to our last building which was 3x smaller and filthy as ****...Couldnt walk in the building without getting dirty.

Claus, Thank you. I wish my brain was very strong....

After comparing my new center section to the old I realized i screwed up a dimension by .260" which is the thickness of the bearing holder :eek:...So i figured instead of remaking the whole thing i cut it in half and milled the difference to bring the bearing retainers closer together where they needed to be:D...I unfortunately have plenty of those moments..But i think it will work out ok. 4-3mm screws per half attach the center section to the front end. Its still plenty strong and all my holes on the front end are tapped 3mm 0.5..no nuts to screw with this time.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Gu1MyUTqpw4/UXBWmbPkdvI/AAAAAAAABCY/uY_-ZBE7AYA/s629/2013-04-18+14.37.21.jpg

Front end pile

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bb4afQn6lE8/UXBWfhMpWLI/AAAAAAAABCk/Fnvecj2b610/s629/2013-04-18+14.37.00.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0uC2E47F-eI/UXBWmju2ZvI/AAAAAAAABCg/XFV_xZS6DiE/s629/2013-04-18+16.16.56.jpg

[Kaf343]

Nice work Jason !
So first you show us your talents with a 3D printer and how well you work with plastic and meanwhile.... Your a master of metal too! :eek::cool::)

To say this loader found a good home is wrong:confused:
This loader has found the RIGHT home for sure! :D

Mario

Mario, you hit the nail right on the head, no doubt this machine ended up in the right hands.

Jason,

All I can say is WOW!

Your skills are truly amazing, it seems there is nothing you can't do, and do well. Increadable.

[tracksntreadslou]

Nice work Jason ..The way i see it is your making a good thing even better ..Im always looking at ways to improve or make my stuff work better ..Hey can I come over make parts in your shop too ..lol

[JDH429]

Keith, thanks for checking in and the nice comments. I hope it turns out to be a nice model. Thanks again.

Lou, thank you, me too. Even if this machine was in great shape id probably still have tried to rebuild it somehow....and anytime.

[JDH429]

The Friday Update...

Drilling out broken screws. Threadlocker and painted screw heads always make for a great time..CAD drawing of hole pattern to assist in finding centers in the mill.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ni4EgBgjtzk/UXGzLBtcalI/AAAAAAAABC0/S1YgHrXJX3o/s629/2013-04-19+11.30.10.jpg

On to something much more cool. Piece of 1/2" flat stock.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--uOWzrM-7KQ/UXGzMOVcC_I/AAAAAAAABC8/zf-aLyokJoU/s629/2013-04-19+13.38.20.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9MjoBga_N0c/UXG0rPz4EXI/AAAAAAAABDM/p4ZJHywlzNc/s629/2013-04-19+15.54.45.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mq_pAJc0wTw/UXG0rxkCGkI/AAAAAAAABDU/2Sm8tzgUKpk/s629/2013-04-19+15.56.08.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MYnsJxS4PR0/UXG01RYTs_I/AAAAAAAABDc/ThpvRM01BDA/s629/2013-04-19+15.57.07.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-I4DdbAeU3N8/UXG02gC_CtI/AAAAAAAABDs/ggdyW-m7VLM/s629/2013-04-19+15.59.49.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-v1KV41iUiC4/UXGzMYhhLbI/AAAAAAAABDE/1IPhYwt3B-Q/s629/2013-04-19+14.40.32.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-hAjF1__LxOw/UXG02lawX5I/AAAAAAAABDo/-tbbgT3ew_o/s629/2013-04-19+16.02.18-1.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vO8bGSTeXnE/UXG1RUMaiKI/AAAAAAAABD8/4TZJY5NReGU/s629/2013-04-19+16.31.06.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-tNCz_UBImJE/UXG1CwDE7fI/AAAAAAAABD0/QmJf878ui0s/s629/2013-04-19+16.30.57.jpg

Finally starting to look like something. Might have some free time this weekend to get the front end completed and move onto the rear half.

[Espeefan]

Jason, I'm enjoying this project of yours! I'm learning some new things too. I thought you were pretty talented to be making a cab with a 3D printer, but that's only a small piece of it. You're a heck of a machinist too. The new loader arms and bucket bell crank (is that what they call them?) look really nice together. I'll be checking this thread over the weekend to see what is yet to come!

[JDH429]

Thanks Nate, and yes you are correct. I have to be honest I had to google the bucket bell crank. :)

[Lil Giants]

Did you modify the length of the bell crank at all to compensate the added length of the arms?

[JDH429]

No, The difference will be in the length of the connecting rod that goes from the bell crank to the bucket. Working on that shortly.

[JDH429]

So after experimenting a little today working out the movements on the bucket with the 1/2" longer arms, I determined the length of the conecting rod from the bell crank to the bucket needed to be lengthened 1/2" also. This worked well through out the buckets movements except when in the full up position and bucket dumping. The center pin location on the bucket for the connecting rod was just about on the same plane as the pins for the arm attachments point on the bucket. This caused the movement of the bucket to bind when turning up from the dump position. I employed the use of the printer and mocked up a connecting rod and block to try different pin positions on the bucket as i knew i had to raise that connecting point up above the arm pins to fix the dump bind.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OiDwgcOO5HA/UXSBSqJzedI/AAAAAAAABFE/n03GXNp0_50/s633/2013-04-21+19.44.44.jpg

New mount .400" higher center to center pin location. All up and down movements are smooth with no bind now.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xYKjGivT-Pg/UXSA7cbmJJI/AAAAAAAABE0/0hPjFXHy1o4/s633/2013-04-21+19.39.14.jpg

New solid connecting rod.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2b7rfXpR8dM/UXSBGpahNBI/AAAAAAAABE8/7ww_ZkQXhl4/s633/2013-04-21+19.40.20.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-l3Src-7Kcqc/UXSAvDkpRFI/AAAAAAAABEs/TEQqMKuSo9Y/s633/2013-04-21+19.37.32.jpg

Arms full up , bucket full down

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-edgVH4dXsSE/UXSAjIQZzvI/AAAAAAAABEc/TFvV5z5Kqow/s633/2013-04-21+19.36.34.jpg

Bucket full up

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-fw9R2sSma_k/UXSAlfw8AlI/AAAAAAAABEk/NiliPMv2uwk/s633/2013-04-21+19.37.05.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9WUevG1djMs/UXSAii8GUpI/AAAAAAAABEY/7GN6wHVnNXM/s633/2013-04-21+19.35.39.jpg

[Espeefan]

That's some beautiful machining Jason! The new bucket bell crank mount turned out nice! Any idea what the max reach is now at? Assuming you may have mounted or measured the rims and tires, just to get an idea.

[JDH429]

Thanks Nate! The height difference is only about 1/2" higher. Haven't got far enough to mount the wheels again to check. Figured if needed a bit more I could get that with a quick disconnect if I make one later.

Didn't do this before but should've taken a stock measurement and weight before disassembly. Anyone reading who may have that post it please so I can compare. Thx

[dabears]

WOW! turning out killer! You are doing an awesome job with this rebuild!

[JDH429]

Dabears, Thanks Man!

Here are a few new pics of some progress.

turned up 2 rear axle pivot bolts for the new rear lower half.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Z0nLfXW9cH8/UXgyu3BAb4I/AAAAAAAABFU/b_M2rFVbSX0/s1084/2013-04-23+16.32.30.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lN7LycR31Ck/UXgyyt2hmeI/AAAAAAAABFc/YYv6G2cty7M/s1084/2013-04-23+16.36.27.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-kKm4CcIjoR8/UXgy21MAVwI/AAAAAAAABFk/CLI7oWDvqtI/s1084/2013-04-23+16.38.29.jpg

Hinges for the rear

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Dn5cziG1UEM/UXgy-YfnfNI/AAAAAAAABFs/9UTIswTvP2M/s1084/2013-04-23+16.48.00.jpg

New mounts for the pump, block and reservoir. I wanted to tidy things up a little. Everything was just floating around and a tangled mess before.

BEFORE

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-INyfWneDAT8/UWrhcrRvTWI/AAAAAAAAA7w/p38bm_d7fIE/s1084/2013-04-10+20.47.33.jpg

NOW

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XBmCUhfEJ8c/UXgzUmqiWrI/AAAAAAAABF8/NSgnWQEwQT8/s1084/2013-04-24+15.28.24.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9d3EBCUpyEw/UXg23yzmsaI/AAAAAAAABGc/7f5kGWsy-zE/s1084/2013-04-24+15.45.44.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pIpHgOS9giY/UXg4WnV2dVI/AAAAAAAABGo/JFaFBHoru3U/s1084/2013-04-24+15.53.25.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-48jvGdrftRQ/UXgzJbzN2PI/AAAAAAAABF0/zsLME2UizmE/s1084/2013-04-24+15.28.08.jpg

Starting to put on some weight.

[Brel]

nice work on the loader

[RCTech9]

Nice work. How much more than stock do you think it weighs?

[Espeefan]

Great job mounting the hydraulic components! I think that's a lot better then having them slide around in the belly of the machine. Looks like you'll still have plenty of room for a battery and the electronics too.

[Lil Giants]

The components did not slide around on the belly of the model, the pump & valves are in fixed locations... and more importantly, the pump is fixed at an angle so the inlet of the pump is always submerged in oil.

I see the pump was previously mounted correctly in this picture with it's kit supplied mount at a downward angle, why did you not retain that mount or something similar?

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-INyfWneDAT8/UWrhcrRvTWI/AAAAAAAAA7w/p38bm_d7fIE/s1084/2013-04-10+20.47.33.jpg

[JDH429]

Nate, Thank you, Yes theres plenty of room for electronics in the rear end.

Joe, Good observation. You saved me some trouble with that. The valve block and reservoir were loose and floating around when i got it.

[JDH429]

Thanks to Lil Giants suggestion and my oversight, I made a new pump mount. Also started on the cab but didnt get too far before my welder died. So it will be a few weeks until i can get anymore body work done until the welder is fixed. In the meantime i got some parts powder coated and a few other things done.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xbC9g8Rjm5E/UXvA1wQskXI/AAAAAAAABG4/H1fFCy_646M/w1084-h813/2013-04-27+08.00.35.jpg

Paint cleaned off cylinders

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9Z6K3SA6HbE/UXvLC2tP36I/AAAAAAAABKU/oTaZx1yxASw/w610-h813/2013-04-27+08.55.52.jpg


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ob83z0rM2cA/UXvBDt4I5PI/AAAAAAAABHo/me8-pe7PgLQ/w1084-h813/2013-04-26+12.34.23.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MbWiwmu6p0I/UXvBDLtbcFI/AAAAAAAABHg/eYDzuVLBA2o/w1084-h813/2013-04-26+12.10.10.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MucO-6jHlN4/UXvBELzNvNI/AAAAAAAABHw/cN6iYFV_0yk/w1084-h813/2013-04-26+12.48.28.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-q0pM8W8Gapw/UXvBEhqfy6I/AAAAAAAABH4/W6ZSnleFIms/w1084-h813/2013-04-26+12.52.56.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TF6zLP0MiQg/UXvBODwMBxI/AAAAAAAABI0/H4Vk6L3lBFk/w1084-h813/2013-04-26+12.54.18.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ikUq3_hjy-4/UXvJlVi52GI/AAAAAAAABKI/6I9G2EwxGvc/w1084-h813/2013-04-27+08.49.32.jpg

Made a mount for the articulating cylinders.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-k9M4b2Qr7ew/UXvBQVUp0NI/AAAAAAAABJM/XoZP8lktIYg/w610-h813/2013-04-27+08.00.14.jpg

Parts just out of the tumbler

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-oVvO_v5ON98/UXvBBkVaabI/AAAAAAAABHQ/CENg-hj_Jww/w1084-h813/2013-04-25+17.51.52.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RSmn11O7Fk8/UXvBU5c5l0I/AAAAAAAABJU/M1VjxByZZ4o/w1084-h813/2013-04-25+16.59.57.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VDVgsBujGkU/UXvBAn2JrbI/AAAAAAAABHA/tEeu6e6Gzk0/w610-h813/2013-04-25+17.51.25.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--e4vWXXiflc/UXvBBOThuAI/AAAAAAAABHI/GLA7zNkzze0/w1084-h813/2013-04-25+17.51.30.jpg

Chasing threads. I find this the cleanest way to deal with threads when powdercoating. Larger holes are easily plugged.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mwZqPeWlhs8/UXvBCDYoICI/AAAAAAAABHY/rCm0xtnpuWc/w1084-h813/2013-04-25+18.01.32.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xPcwMmKmGmU/UXvBMuQUP6I/AAAAAAAABIk/OqCtbj9-gXs/w1084-h813/2013-04-25+18.04.43.jpg

And partially assembled to get an idea of what its gonna look like. I changed the direction and am heading towards a later WA500 look with these colors, cab and the rear hood will be slanted in the rear instead of straight back.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3-gWGU7QCwI/UXvLZrA3sUI/AAAAAAAABKc/01MShF_zkGA/w1084-h813/komatsu-wa-500-03+%25281%2529.jpg

The yellow is actually closer to the 1:1 picture than it looks here.



https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-DgEdunVjAso/UXvFq2gPW2I/AAAAAAAABJ4/5wEbFDOi6n8/w1084-h813/2013-04-27+08.33.01.jpg

[RCP57]

Nice job! Too bad your welder died! It's exciting to watch a machine come together as fast as this one. I like the idea of updating to a newer more current model too. It will further separate yours from the original!

Reg

[CAT315C]

Hello JDH429

Yesterday also tried pouring a plaque with Glinder but had difficulties.

The best way I found was to make a hole in the side and then cut with a jigsaw.

Carlos

[Espeefan]

Nice progress Jason. I enjoy reading about your updates and progress. I kind of figured a cab would hard to build, with the compound angles in the windshield, but you are definitely making it look easy. Must of cut the windows with a plasma?

[JDH429]

RCP, Thanks I was thinking the same thing. Make it a bit more unique and updated looking.

Cat, ?

Nate, Thank you. Yes the Plasma isnt the most accurate by hand, but ill doctor it up later. I figured id give it a shot. I think it came out ok.

A few more pics of some wheels. I love powder coating, Your putting stuff together an hour after coating them, Im happy with the way these came out. This is my favorite part of restoration... Assembling brand new parts :D

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8mfHk64Xkh0/UXwL2-PZBAI/AAAAAAAABKw/zpujCfamsTg/w1084-h813/2013-04-27+12.48.53.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mrhQAViIfAI/UXwMDpux1zI/AAAAAAAABLY/RyVMPzBN1bM/w1084-h813/2013-04-27+13.22.06.jpg

The color isnt as "lemony" in the sun.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qpAQaWzzAGQ/UXwMCoN1rhI/AAAAAAAABLI/C4gkUx_hH8U/w1084-h813/2013-04-27+13.11.07.jpg

And still kicking around a new hubcap design. I like the one on the left i think. Not sure yet..Less holes to tap..:D It looks more like the 1:1 I think too.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JpE1PO2mbGQ/UXwMEWyh6nI/AAAAAAAABLg/wWRuY62Dq4g/w1084-h813/2013-04-27+13.23.47.jpg

[Espeefan]

Ahh, that's a tasty treat for the eyes! The powder coat parts look awesome. Of course the left hub looks better. The more bolts you use, the better, right? :D

[Valdosetti]

Hi Jason! I must say. I`m already fan of yours! You are taking this machine to the next (“next”) level. I couldn’t imagine this machine now on other hands, neither a restoration better than yours. Definitely, it`s going to be a plus machine and you are capable to surprise us on every step of this building. I believe since you are so close to the real machine and you have that it takes, you should go for the rims just like the real one. I can`t wait to see the video of it working. Once again; Congrats on your project!

[JDH429]

Thanks guys, I appreciate the kind words and hope to get the axles finished and put together this week. Waiting on a 2mm tap to clean the threads out of the axle housings. Shouldn't be too long, McMaster Carr is 40 min away from me and I can order something online before 9 am and get it the same morning. :)

[rc entreprenøren]

I have to say. Very nice work. When you are finised it will be a awsome machine to operate.

To bad the producer of this machine don`t exist no more.

[RCP57]

Thanks guys, I appreciate the kind words and hope to get the axles finished and put together this week. Waiting on a 2mm tap to clean the threads out of the axle housings. Shouldn't be too long, McMaster Carr is 40 min away from me and I can order something online before 9 am and get it the same morning. :)

Well hurry up then! People are expecting day to day updates here!:p

Looking great!

[cdm]

a cab out of steel? my oh my!

you got some skill working with that hard metal

[Espeefan]

Gotta love McMaster-Carr! I'm more then 4 hours away, but I usually get everything I order the next afternoon.

[RCP57]

Gotta love McMaster-Carr! I'm more then 4 hours away, but I usually get everything I order the next afternoon.

Man, only to be American....

[cdm]

Gotta love McMaster-Carr! I'm more then 4 hours away, but I usually get everything I order the next afternoon.

i live 40 miles from them, and work 4 miles away. i get everything within 2 hours if i want to :D

[SmallHaul]

Just amazing work Jason.

i saw that you live in NE Ohio...i know a really good guy near You that has roads and digs dirt behind his house that might be looking for someone to move dirt with, if You are interested send me a pm and i'll get you his info.

[RCTech9]

Nice work! I like the wheel on the left better.

[JDH429]

Thank you everyone. I just wanted to say to anyone who has posted on my builds that if it seems like I have not commented much on your threads it's only because I've been so busy lately. It's been a great experience being here and meeting all of you. It seems a bit selfish to post and receive all the support and not to return the favor. I just wanted to say I appreciate all the comments and don't want to seem like a jerk for not supporting your threads.


Well hurry up then! People are expecting day to day updates here!:p

Looking great!

Lol, thank you, will try to keep the real time updates coming.

CDM, I tried it out of steel to see what happens. I hope I get the welder back soon. If I'm not happy with the cab I may make it out of alum instead. Thanks for checking in.

Nate, great place.

CDM, so your familiar with MC and what a huge place it is. Being inside there is a sight to see.

Small Haul, thank you sir! Im gonna pm you about that. Thanks

Rctech, thanks, me too. Think I'm gonna go with that design.

[MitzuRazing]

This is awesome :)
Glad I can follow your progress :D

And also, I read thru the thread of your 3d printed cabin and that inspired me to try out this new tech :D , so a RepRap Mendelmax 1.5 it will be (I have ordered the printed plastic parts and 20/20 frame already)

Looking forward to seeing more of this build!

[JDH429]

This is awesome :)
Glad I can follow your progress :D

And also, I read thru the thread of your 3d printed cabin and that inspired me to try out this new tech :D , so a RepRap Mendelmax 1.5 it will be (I have ordered the printed plastic parts and 20/20 frame already)

Looking forward to seeing more of this build!


Glad to help light that fire. :D
Looking forward to seeing your setup when you are up and running.
Thanks for watching my builds.

Heres the latest on this loader.

Had to make some new mounting rings for the motors as the originals are just staying on the oe front end for easy future referencing.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UZZJGEHNlEs/UYad-aBgz5I/AAAAAAAABOU/6JCUfleJdoQ/w629-h472/2013-04-29+15.43.16.jpg

Here they are mounted. I used nuts to strengthen things up even though i did tap the holes first...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aSltRWaHekE/UYaePY4otEI/AAAAAAAABOg/8YUnlPR_spo/w629-h472/2013-04-30+14.27.25.jpg

Been looking at the 1:1 counter weight and decided to take a stab at it out of steel.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ITiif7zL_VI/UYaeQUIF5uI/AAAAAAAABNc/BaK9Gnbdx6g/w629-h472/2013-04-30+15.20.16.jpg

After squaring with a fly cutter. Getting this squared up is important as theres going to be some serious material being removed. Dont want anything wiggling around in the vise.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-98nBHUD7Wjs/UYak9NTaCWI/AAAAAAAABOs/QaGQJdGKCFA/w629-h472/2013-05-01+13.18.29.jpg

Weight is 3lbs. Im not sure if i should hollow some of it out. Im thinking too much weight could be excessive wear on the gear reduction?...In the dirt it shouldnt be an issue. On pavement overtime..maybe. But it will definitely keep the back end planted.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AJ2yHr20XYo/UYaeZVKslpI/AAAAAAAABNk/7UDGqde1qaQ/w629-h472/2013-05-02+17.33.34.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bDvCbq1gDxU/UYaerSrPD9I/AAAAAAAABN4/F7dEVfl7pTE/w629-h472/2013-05-04+13.46.45.jpg

Starting on the rear body, grinding both sides to the same dimensions.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IurKbcNiR5A/UYaer_y4YlI/AAAAAAAABN8/Hm0dsY1LtwE/w629-h472/2013-05-04+13.51.58.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kmJS5xOtxng/UYalQOPSdpI/AAAAAAAABO8/7JGvBY2EI24/w629-h472/2013-05-04+18.08.34.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qWxWz2JmaX4/UYafBdJ_puI/AAAAAAAABOE/UyeOHMbv1v4/w629-h472/2013-05-04+18.05.40.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KL6GdKZ1Z1U/UYafQOdpD3I/AAAAAAAABOM/qehQ2Ba2UCI/w629-h472/2013-05-04+20.57.24.jpg

The battery access door will be the rear upper plate with the nice contoured bend on the back. Having some trouble figuring out how to attach it neatly. Would like to hinge it but that doesnt seem to want to work well and keep the gap between the stationary plate the hinge is mounted to (the top of the body) and the hinged plate edge. The gap will be too noticeable. Maybe i need a special interior hinge...idk

[Espeefan]

Holy smokes Jason! That counterweight and the hood is looking awesome. Been looking forward to some updates on this for a couple weekends, and you never disappoint! Maybe instead of hinges on the hood you could use some rare earth magnets, and make the whole deal removable. I'm kind of headed that way with my KW project. I have to be able to remove the cab, to get to the battery, and I'm not going to drill holes and screw it to the base. Just bouncing the idea around.

[Azonic]

Very nice work man, its a pleasure to follow!

Keep it up!

[RCP57]

Very nice job. So are you building a haul truck next?:D

[JDH429]

Azonic, thank you.

Nate that's an excellent idea. Gonna have to play around with that a little. Thank you for following the build and your help.

RCP, :). Gonna finish my semi dump hopefully. Thanks!

[JDH429]

fan mount
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printed out a grill, didnt think i needed to spend the time making this in the mill...however it would have been good paractice for when i do mill the vents in the sides of the hood.

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Playin around with some magnets ( Nate :D )

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Going to spend some time on the side platforms this weekend maybe. I remembered I had some perforated sheet from when i had to make some filter baskets for the coolant canister filters for some of the cncs. Should work fine for the steps.

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[RCP57]

Looks fantastic.....no pun intended:cool:

Reg

[JDH429]

Thanks Reg, and congratulations on your April Build of the month WIN! Really Nice work.

Widdled up a roof for the cab this evening, Its 1/2" thick alum...lol. And got my speaker mounted. Figured maybe i can use the cab as the speaker enclosure.

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[JDH429]

Left side steps made from steel all welded and sandblasted. Test seat printed to hide the speaker in cab. Ill be looking for some smaller chain.

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[JDH429]

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[Lmackattack]

wow awesome build!.. This thing is way cool!

[WhiteWolf McBride]

JDH:

Want a source for some finer perf-metal? Look inside the door of any sh*tcanned microwave oven. Thats the only place I could find the really fine stuff. And I'm sure its steel, not aluminum (would be easier to cut if it was aluminum!)

I've got about 4 sheets of it, awaiting a chance/opportunity to cut it in strips, and have the edges bent up-&-down on either side so that they can be used as sand/traction-ramps. Three pieces would make quite a few... depending on which way they were cut.

And the build looks really great... only thing holding me back from a loader like this (or a Volvo articulated dumper) is my fear of hydraulics. Oh, and saving enough. Then again, the same savings could get me one of Peter Muller's Faun SLT2-50's 8x8 w/ heavy-transport trailer.

WhiteWolf

[RCTech9]

Nice work it looks way better with the newer look.

[RCP57]

This thing looks sweet! I love the rear grill and counter weight!

[JDH429]

Lmack, thank you

White wolf, the perf steel is 18 ga and I don't have any problems bending or cutting it. Cutting it is a breeze being it has relief holes in straight lines. Anything thinner would be difficult to weld with my mig. Thanks for the suggestion tho.

Rctech, and RCP- thanks fellas. Havin a blast seeing it start to resemble what I hoped. I printed another grill with smaller horizontal bars which looks more scale and did the same to the drivers seat....

[JAMMER]

You have done an excellent job of reproducing the model. I am the one who originally bought and assembled the model an it was much more work than what you have done putting it together and taking it apart and re assembling it again many times. The instructions are in German and the pictures are that detailed enough to use for putting it to gether. Keep up the great work it looks very nice. Ed

[JDH429]

Ed, Thank you. You had more time in building the kit than i do scratch building it?

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new grill

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Smaller seat in the cab

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Building right side steps

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[Espeefan]

Looks great Jason! Between your printing skills, with the detail parts, and your metal fab skills, there is nothing you can't do!

[JAMMER]

Yes I dod have more time in building the loader than you do what with missing parts and German instructions and very little pictures to go by. I would have to assemble a piece and if it was wrong witch it was most of the time and reassemble until it was right that why some of the parts are broken and patched or replaced with angle aluminum, it was a nightmare. Ed

[cdm]

This is becoming one of my favourites right now. Very fast progress to!

[JDH429]

Printed a few light buckets for the rear end. Lenses are from PMD. Also a cool pic of some chased threads on a wheel hub. Thats all for now.

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[JDH429]

Update-

Preping some parts for coating. Using a metal based body filler which works with powdercoating. Withstands the heat in the oven and is conductive for powder adhesion...Then I couldnt help but assemble some parts to get a look. Still a work in progress. Waiting on some parts for wiring, and a new S20 which got shorted out...:mad:


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Assembly

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rear axle

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The taillights are upside down as the set shown is for the other side.

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Printed the mirrors and dash. Lexan came out nice.


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Really happy with the look. Now, if I can get it to run as good as it looks.

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[doodlebug]

Wow !!!!! I like the transformation!
Cheers, Neil.

[MoRockN]

What a machine you made here buddy :drool:. It is simply Epic!! Congratulations on a job well done!

[rc entreprenøren]

Awsome.....simply awsome.. This is really a nice jobb.
Almost scratch built.:jaw:

[RCP57]

That looks great! Now you gotta make a new bucket so that those screw heads are gone. Can't wait to see it in action. You shouldn't have a traction issue now with all that added weight.

[Espeefan]

Jason, my jaw hit the floor when I checked the updates to your thread on my phone. How much better the view is on my laptop. All I can say is wow! You've definitely overhauled this WA500, and turned it into a masterpiece. It looks a lot like the Fumotec WA500 now. Very cool.

[Snochaser]

Great job, get it dirty.

[JDH429]

Thanks fellas, I've still got some work to do, mostly wiring for the lights and going to make a few more detail parts before I can get it dirty. Ill be sure to post some video when its rolling.

Nate, thanks! I hadn't looked at the Fumotec loader in a while.. Ill have to see that and compare now. I was basing my build off a few 1:1 pics of a wa 500-6. I'm sorta at a stand still now due to the s20 burning out. While i was trying to organize the rat nest that is the wiring, the previously poor soldering of the deans battery connector caused a lead to short and then emit the infamous blue smoke from the esc which is never good. Its done...I've had an s20 on order now for maybe 3 months from ric for my w900. hopefully that's coming in soon so I can proceed.

RCP thanks, the weight difference from stock to now is night and day. Didn't get a weight but as it sits now its all of 35 lbs I'm guessing.

[heavy_duty]

Amazing build here.This build is top notch. It looks like you have done this a before. Chop cut rebuild.

Ed

[JDH429]

Oz, Thank you!

Ed, Thank you, Chop, cut , rebuild...I like that. First time building anything of this detail.

Need to make a correction. I over estimated the weight of the machine. Dry weight is 23 lbs.

[JDH429]

Btt.. :rolleyes:


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[Northern Farmer]

Looks great!

[liftmys10]

Looks fantastic!! Did you not end up selling her a few months back? Any videos? Thanks!

[Azonic]

What a transformation! Well done! :)

[JDH429]

Thank you!

I did end up holding on to it as you see and did a bit more finishing work
on it. Glad I did because I needed to post some final shots to end the build thread.

Working out a few bugs now, will be sure to post some video when it's running.

[Bo Wallen]

Hey the work you done is absolute top class. love it and don't you dare selling that baby.

[JDH429]

Hey the work you done is absolute top class. love it and don't you dare selling that baby.

Thank you, Ya know the more details I finish, the cooler it gets, and less chance I'd let it go. ;).

[skeeter]

Awsome.....simply awsome.. This is really a nice jobb.
Almost scratch built.:jaw:

ALMOST......Close enough in my book to be scratch built.

[skeeter]

A truly awesome job you've done with this build, sir.

[JDH429]

A truly awesome job you've done with this build, sir.

Thank you