Carson L634

[Mitch]

634 arrived today. So I inventoried the parts and extras. Happily, the metal tracks fit perfectly on the sprocket;)


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[MoRockN]

Congrats! Now that you have fitted and trimmed the metal tracks, can I have them and you can get your self another set:eek::D... JK. Can't wait to see your build.

[Claus]

Wow, that's great news. We're going to have a lot of these track loader build threads to keep us entertained and jealous! Looking forward to seeing more Mitch. What color are you thinking? I hope somebody does one in fire red colors.
http://www.kcmtoys.com/Fire_dozer_2.jpg

[Mitch]

Congrats! Now that you have fitted and trimmed the metal tracks, can I have them and you can get your self another set:eek::D... JK. Can't wait to see your build.




Jury is still out as to wether the tracks will function well. I'll let you know.

MM:rolleyes:

[Espeefan]

Looking good Mitch. Permacon told me the tracks would not work with the stock drive sprocket, but so far it looks like it does. Come on, where are the rest of your photos? I want to see what other goodies you have in store for this thing!

[Mitch]

The tracks fit the sprocket . However, the metal tracks are 52mm wide and the plastic tracks are 42mm wide. Therefore, they are too wide to fit, so the next endeavor is to cut 5mm per side per individual track. That's 160 cuts.:eek:

[Claus]

Could you move the track side frames out, widening the whole under carriage? I know that probably wouldn't be any easier than making 160 cuts but you would be able to keep it a wide track.

[doodlebug]

Why not build a jig and clamp the tracks down, fully assembled and just make 2 cuts, per track?????
Cheers, Neil

[Mitch]

That is currently the idea. Did a couple practice cuts with a spare track I ordered. The metal cuts nicely with a cut off wheel. Think it will also work with a band saw. Need to make a fixture ! Any ideas are appreciated.;)

[Espeefan]

Benchtop milling machine? Clamp the tracks on edge, vertically, and you could probably mill as many sections as your vise is wide. I wouldn't even worry about disassembling the links.

Any idea what a completed set of tracks weigh? I'm just wondering how much extra weight these would add to a LR634.

[doodlebug]

Benchtop milling machine? Clamp the tracks on edge, vertically, and you could probably mill as many sections as your vise is wide. I wouldn't even worry about disassembling the links.

Any idea what a completed set of tracks weigh? I'm just wondering how much extra weight these would add to a LR634.

Yah, I like that idea too!!!!
Cheers, Neil.

[Mitch]

Mockup complete! Took your advice and milled the tracks. Came out fine. Also, the metal track application requires a change of bottom rollers (Top rollers are good). I made some extras for my "Wide Track" dozer ( exactly 12). They are about 2mm smaller, but work none the less. I also added a bottom plate for additional weight. Havn't got a scale, but I'm guessing it all adds up to around 4- 6 lbs. I plan to use fiberglass resin, and place No. 9 Birdshot into the Cab recesses, this should add a little more weight. :);)



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[Mitch]

Not far from Paint and Powder Coat ! :D


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[Espeefan]

Oh boy, I like those tracks! Going for the John Deere 755D, I see? Looks like you have one track pin that isn't quite in place. The e-clip must of popped off? :D Good idea on the added ballast. I might have to borrow that idea!

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[Mitch]

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[Mitch]

As you can see the stock bottom rollers ride on top of track, and will not work. The top rollers would work if you could get twelve of them (probably not). However, if one of our friends in Germany could check with Carson that might help. I tried, but no contact on the subject.


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[Claus]

Mitch you are doing the non-hydraulic ripper? That surprises me. Your building is looking very Precision so far!

[Mitch]

Just waiting for the hydraulics to arrive. Thought I would make sure it all fitt.

[Mitch]

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[Mitch]

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[thercfreak2012]

are u posting more progress pics of it and are u doing the hydraulic coversion:D

[Mitch]

Working on the hydraulics now. Later, I'll be painting the cabin and remaining parts.

[thercfreak2012]

ok mate could u give me a list of everything u bought with this machine and what transmitter are you using

[Mitch]

As follows:

1. Complete hydraulics (Includes Ripper)
2. M220
3. BMA
4. SMT w/Speaker
5. Lighting Set (Servonaut)
6. Metal Tracks (Needed Milling & Different bottom rollers)
7. John Deere Powder coat
8. John Deere Gray paint
9. Switch for lighting
10. Spectrum 8 channel radio

[thercfreak2012]

wow i bet that was not cheap with the machine as well as these parts

[Espeefan]

Nice progress Mitch! I take it that is a powder coated finish, on the main chassis and track frames? Do you powder coat things yourself, or hire someone?

[ngward79]

So did Premacon cut you a deal for buying 160 track links ? And great build so far, can't wait to see some video of it digging some dirt !

[Claus]

Looks great Mitch! Keep the photos coming.

[Mitch]

Powder coating was done by me at home. No deals w/Premacon on any of the items. In addition, I had to pay a machine shop (90 USD) to mill the tracks to proper width. BTW, powder coating is a little messy but you get a nice durable product.

[MoRockN]

Man that bottom weight block is an awesome idea. I might have to copy you ( if not trade marked :) ) or if you make them your self I'd buy one from you. Everything looks fantastic Mitch !!

[ngward79]

Came across a few web sites you guys with the L634 might be interested in. I know its a little too late for Mitch but they have the factory track rollers , main track drive sprocket , replacement plastic track and a few other things.

https://www.mbs-modellbaushop.com/modellbau/index.php?p=9&sa=1&s=&c=&cid=&b=6396352cd83bf34d914c82c65e7a294f&sas=

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And at this site they have metal replacement teeth for the ripper.

http://www.afv-model.com/4711shop/product_info.php?products_id=3564

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[Mitch]

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[thercfreak2012]

post more pics please of the cab if possible mitch

[Espeefan]

Looking great Mitch! Now that I see they have metal ripper shanks available, I think I'm going to look into getting a ripper a little more seriously!

[Mitch]

Tried to order the metal shanks from AFV as recommended, but was unable to work through problems with their website. This has been a recurrent theme. Has anyone else had success with ordering from AFV? I had no problems last time (year ago).

[Mitch]

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[apfubar]

Looking good!

[Claus]

True work of art. The upgrades you have done are so nice, taken a nice model to a whole nother level.

[ngward79]

Looking sharp ! Did you ever have any luck getting the ripper shanks from AFV ?

[Mitch]

Metal Ripper shanks required a little trimming to make them fit. They appeared to be made of Brass. Thanks for the comments;)


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[Mitch]

Quick "Mock-up", plenty of wiring and electronics to install.

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[Bigrigger]

Looking good! I have never seen one of these before! Your powder-coating skills are awesome! Looking forward to some video of it in the dirt! :D

[Mitch]

Thanks ! Here are some final photos.

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Scale Art speaker box vented through exhaust pipe.

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[Snochaser]

Fabulous job Mitch! Looks Great!

[thercfreak2012]

omg shitting **** thats awesome mitch good job dude

[Espeefan]

That's sharp, Mitch. Might I ask where you got the hydraulic hose protectors? I'm pretty sure those didn't come in my kit! :D I'm curious why the perforated metal, on the right side of the machine, is bolted to the side panel.

[titandigs]

Great job Mitch, can I ask where you have put the battery and what size you used, I know with mine the space is limited when the electronics go in. I have put two Tamiya packs together to give me 10,000ma but I have no room for a speaker.

[ptebbe]

Amazing job. I've been considering the LR 634 but now I see what you've been able to do I feel inspired! Did you coat the track and the ripper shanks or are they bare metal? I've always been a fan of powercoating!

[AzItalian]

u got a 5 star's for that piece of art.

[Mitch]

That's sharp, Mitch. Might I ask where you got the hydraulic hose protectors? I'm pretty sure those didn't come in my kit! :D I'm curious why the perforated metal, on the right side of the machine, is bolted to the side panel.

Hose protectors from "Harbor Frieght" spring kit. Used the metal screen as an accent (and to cover a paint flaw);)

[Mitch]

Great job Mitch, can I ask where you have put the battery and what size you used, I know with mine the space is limited when the electronics go in. I have put two Tamiya packs together to give me 10,000ma but I have no room for a speaker.

I put the battery in front of the ballast, and used two 1600 Ma batteries. Also, as you can see in the picture, I bolted a "Scale Art" speaker and box under the exhaust stack (after I cut out a hole);)

[Mitch]

Amazing job. I've been considering the LR 634 but now I see what you've been able to do I feel inspired! Did you coat the track and the ripper shanks or are they bare metal? I've always been a fan of powercoating!

The tracks and rippers are metal, with no coating. I did bead blast the tracks to dull them.;)

[Mitch]

u got a 5 star's for that piece of art.

Thanks ! I decided to leave the rear cylinders and rippers bare metal to show the "Uninitiated" that the model is not a toy ( well not a plastic toy).

[woody]

Nice and neat great picks Mitch.

[Hofabooz]

Hi Mitch

Great work cannot wait to see some video of it in action.
You should be proud of what you have achieved.
Regards

Mark

[tc1cat]

Nice job on the powdercoat and paint. ?? for you- you have a toggle switch inside the cab in an early pic but I do not see it in any of the last batch of pics. Is it the off/on switch? Did you find out that the cab is not a good place for it?

[aussietruckerguy]

Wow that is a very nice build :-D

[jack van]

looking realy great

[Mitch]

Video of Dozer with Scale Art tracks.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDdAgJqaEFI&feature=youtu.be

[Espeefan]

Great video, Mitch. One of my favorite dozers on the forum, and probably the best looking RC Deere bulldozer out there. Seems to have great traction and power too.

[Kausekaos]

I want one of these bad but I know nothing about them. It looks great.

[ptebbe]

Really great job, Mitch.

I really like your color scheme. How did you paint the gray and the yellow on plastic. I assume you used a air compressor/paint sprayer? You must be a better painter than I am.
Paul

[johnny b]

Hi MItch that is a thing of beauty, i was considering purchasing a wedico wheel loader for my winter project but now i am totaly undecided what to go for.you have made an outstanding job,my only criticism is powder coat is a little gritty in places but thats me being a perfectionist again. where did you get the decals from they are superb. Would i be too cheeky in asking for a ballpark cost overall? If i decide upon buying one would you mind if i contacted you for advice. Think carefully before answring as i might become a pain. Anyway again a really great project and blog. Cheers, Johnny b. Email,jabrentnall@gmail.com

[liftmys10]

Awesome track loader!
The stock track is rubber correct?

[Lil Giants]

The stock track is rubber correct?

nylon

[liftmys10]

nylon

Thanks for clarifying. You would think the nylon tracks wear out fast.

[Lil Giants]

I have nylon tracks on my JD850, they don't show much signs of wear in 2yrs.

[JohnStilwell]

I thought the tracks on the Carson were graphite impregnated plastic?

[Lil Giants]

Well, maybe that's what it's called John, I'm not really sure... it's a mixture of something & cast in a mould.

[liftmys10]

I have nylon tracks on my JD850, they don't show much signs of wear in 2yrs.

Who makes your JD850?

[torarne81]

Here you go ;)

http://www.vario-helicopter.biz/us1/product_info.php?products_id=100455

Who makes your JD850?

[Mitch]

Hi MItch that is a thing of beauty, i was considering purchasing a wedico wheel loader for my winter project but now i am totaly undecided what to go for.you have made an outstanding job,my only criticism is powder coat is a little gritty in places but thats me being a perfectionist again. where did you get the decals from they are superb. Would i be too cheeky in asking for a ballpark cost overall? If i decide upon buying one would you mind if i contacted you for advice. Think carefully before answring as i might become a pain. Anyway again a really great project and blog. Cheers, Johnny b. Email,jabrentnall@gmail.com Sorry for late responses. Been involved in other things. Thanks for the compliments, the powder coat is my first attempt. I expect better results next time (Maybe Franks Dozer). Please feel free to contact me anytime. I'll try to check the messages more often.

[avel]

That looks awesome!

[ricm]

great looking model....now you just need to get some dirt on it.:D

[Mitch]

Keeping them clean, in order to sell them.

[Claus]

Even though I have read this build I keep coming back and re-reading it. Love everything you added in Mitch from the metal tracks and ripper to the added weight under the machine, the hose protectors and the awesome Powder Coating, it will be hard for someone to a better job on one of these Carson Loaders than this one right here.

[Claus]

RIP Mitch, still one of the best, cleanest, Carson Loaders I have seen.

[jffhrvstr]

The pictures don't do that loader justice, that is an amazing machine. When Mitch showed me that loader, I was tempted to buy it. Mitch told me that he put on metal tracks but he had to mill them down so they would fit that model. It's too bad Mitch isn't with us anymore, he was an amazing guy & model builder. I'm glad I bought my 966 from him and was able to meet him before he pasted away.

[Northern Farmer]

Nice loader indeed! Always sad to see someone go...RIP

[Steve1503]

It was a nice loader, it has moved on to Australia.
Sad to hear Mitch passed.