RC4WD Loader

[pigeonfarmboy]

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/rc4wd/468492-sneak-peak.html

[rsd53]

The tread plate in the first photo looks so real! Are you sure it's not a 1:1?

[pigeonfarmboy]

Looks like a model to me. Easy to find scale treadplate material.

[Stuff]

hmmm I like the size

http://tracgear.com/product/rc4wd/custom/prototype/g2/3.png

[ngward79]

That's sweet , especially if it's in the same price range as the other models they carry.

[ngward79]

Now they just need to make a bulldozer and a track loader too !:D

[MoRockN]

http://youtu.be/7Z_EDSr4sjg



If the price is right (for a HK loader) I might get one and paint it Orange like a Doosan loader.

[Acadieman]

Doosan colors would be cool. I like Doosan's probably because its the only wheel loader I ever operated, a DL160 and DL400.

[Lil Giants]

I think I see the trans they use in their trks, and it's probably the same axles too... components that were designed for 2 inch wheels running on hard flat surfaces that will now be used with 5 inch wheels to push extreme weight in soft ground... :rolleyes: it'll be crap just like the wdc stuff is.

[Stuff]

transmission is same one I have in my Globe from the looks of it.

[ihbuilder]

I think I see the trans they use in their trks, and it's probably the same axles too... components that were designed for 2 inch wheels running on hard flat surfaces that will now be used with 5 inch wheels to push extreme weight in soft ground... :rolleyes: it'll be crap just like the wdc stuff is.

they should send it out here so I can give it a real test at cabin fever . that play sand is not much of a challenge :confused:.

[MoRockN]

I think I see the trans they use in their trks, and it's probably the same axles too... components that were designed for 2 inch wheels running on hard flat surfaces that will now be used with 5 inch wheels to push extreme weight in soft ground... :rolleyes: it'll be crap just like the wdc stuff is.

Yep you are correct on all counts, that's why I said if the price is right. the metal body is cool though.

[Rckcrwlr]

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[rc13]

Yes that is a very cool metal body. Yes it will be very interesting to see that bad boy and how much it costs. Good point about the trans and axles. In the video it looks like the operator was doing a good job, but it looks like they were being very cautious for this first video. Ayoub, anything in Doosan orange is sweet..

Eddie

[Stuart]

I've got the price from the manufacturer in China, they gave it to me because they have no dealers here in France.

They quoted US$3650 including express delivery to France, not sure what import charges would be though :eek:

More info from a Swiss dealer (http://www.hebu-shop.ch/product_info.php?info=p12013_Hydraulik-Radlader-Vollmetall--1-12-1-14--aufgebaut--RTF-Modell--34kg-schwer.html)

Looks like it has potential, especially with the metal body, which would look great in Orange :cool:

Not sure about the axles though either.

Stu

[Stuff]

well that swiss dealer translates to 5700 CAD!

[Stuart]

well that swiss dealer translates to 5700 CAD!

I know :eek:

They are either trying to make a big profit or the import duties from China are crippling!

[Lil Giants]

well that swiss dealer translates to 5700 CAD!

You forgot to subtract the included tax that we won't pay Dean. ;)

Stuart, does each country within the European Union pay 19% tax for all goods & services or is it only Germany that is that high?

[rc13]

I sent an email last week to the manufacturer just out of curiosity to find out how much this loader costs. I copied and then pasted the info below from the email response back to me about the loader:

"Thanks very much for your interest in our Exclusive Hobby-1/14 RC Hydraulic wheel loader,You can find our website and test pictures link below for your
reference:
http://eaglemach.en.alibaba.com/product/1395155073-220105914/1_14_Scale_RC_Hydraulic_Wheel_Loader.html

May I ask which state in US are you from?If you are from California,we can not sell to you;If other states,then it is ok.Our 1/14 RC Hydraulic wheel loader hydraulic
system is similar to 4200xl 1/12 excavator,but more advance and also equipped with engine sound effect,it's RTR version with radio.

We just finished our 1/14 wheel loader prototype test before sales production,and estimated launch time is around 40days.And yes,it's paint before ship out,
and also have light system but belong to upgraded parts,Standard version doesn't include this,here below is some information.

1/14 RC Hydraulic Wheel Loader(With Radio Controller) US$3500/ Set,Plus express freight US$400 to US;

RTR Version

Scale: 1:14

100% CNC machined aluminum

Flysky 9 channel 2.4Ghz radio

Optimized steel hydraulic system

Length: 741mm

Width: 249mm

Height: 276mm ......"

[doodlebug]

HMMMMM??? does that mean it causes cancer in California????
Any idea's for axle upgrade's?

Cheer's, Neil.

[MoRockN]

HMMMMM??? does that mean it causes cancer in California????
Any idea's for axle upgrade's?

Cheer's, Neil.
That is funny Neil:D:D. No it's Because The dealer is in Cali, I'm sure you knew that. I say let's see if we can get a group buy, we can see if maybe we can get it down to let's say......$3000 shipped?? this way we have a little free funds to upgrade things as needed:rolleyes:

Ayoub

[Stuart]

You forgot to subtract the included tax that we won't pay Dean. ;)

Stuart, does each country within the European Union pay 19% tax for all goods & services or is it only Germany that is that high?

Its 19.6% in France, due to go up in January to 20% (or so i've heard), 20% in the uk too, not sure about the rest but I suspect something similar, Hungary is a wopping 27%!

There are however reduced rates for foodstuffs, books, medical suplies etc,etc

Stu

[rc13]

Ha, I agree with Ayoub, that is funny!!!
I would guess the California thing is because the manufacturer made a deal with RC4WD that if they sell direct to a customer in the US (were the buyer does not buy through RC4WD) they not will sell to someone in California because that is where RC4WD is located... That is all I could come up with for a reason.. Pretty stupid isn't it?? Yes I thought that was weird when I first read it. But I am sure they want to sell their product and will sell to whoever wants to buy it. Which means that you don't have to go through the Dealer. Maybe the dealer for this will be adding even more money to get their cut....
Thanks,
Eddie

[grumpygrady]

Ha, I agree with Ayoub, that is funny!!!
I would guess the California thing is because the manufacturer made a deal with RC4WD that if they sell direct to a customer in the US (were the buyer does not buy through RC4WD) they not will sell to someone in California because that is where RC4WD is located... That is all I could come up with for a reason.. Pretty stupid isn't it?? Yes I thought that was weird when I first read it. But I am sure they want to sell their product and will sell to whoever wants to buy it. Which means that you don't have to go through the Dealer. Maybe the dealer for this will be adding even more money to get their cut....
Thanks,
Eddie

it may not meet California's emission laws

[doodlebug]

it may not meet California's emission laws

I like the way yer thinking :D:D:D:cop::cop::cop::lol::lol::lol:
Cheer's, Neil.

[A.ash]

I like the way yer thinking :D:D:D:cop::cop::cop::lol::lol::lol:
Cheer's, Neil.

I'm pretty sure if you fart in CA you will be arrested :eek:

Alan

[elliot330]

guys- have you seen the weight of this on the Swiss dealers website?

Gewicht: ca. 34kg

Surely that can't be correct?!

[Lil Giants]

Yeah, I noticed that too... it might be 34lbs, the measurement originally used for the American market, seeings how RC4WD is their main distributor... but even that's a stretch! :D

The excavator claims to be 44lbs to this day... it aint anywhere close, even with the tx sitting on it too. I don't have a scale to weigh it, I think it's around +- 30lbs.

[MoRockN]

So after looking at the video a few more times, noticed that this loader is huge!! they have it on a Goldhofer and it makes it look tiny, since I have one, that loader will just look so out of scale for my taste. So gonna pass on this one. Now if I got one as a gift, I wouldn't say no :D

[Tamiya Cowboy]

Hopefully it is better than the excavator they sell I have never been happy with mine seams funny you buy a new model and then you have to redo it when you get it but hey Wedico is the same way.

[Lil Giants]

I just measured my Stahl WA500
L - 660
W - 230
H - 270

This HK model is about 10% bigger.

Anybody know what model Komatsu this is suppose to represent yet?

[sparkycuda]

It isn't a Komatsu. The rear hood makes me think of a Leihberr but not sure what it is.

Ken

[Azonic]

I don't think it's supposed to be any of the 1 : 1 brands, I don't think any of those brands using double linkage for the bucket, but to me it looks like a mix between a liebherr and a Volvo. And it should be about the same size as the wa500 from Fumotec I think.

Will be interesting to see more of it.

[JohnStilwell]

Well, from what I have seen in the video, they are having problems with the front drive. Seems the drive for the front tires does not want to work some times. You'll see it in the beginning when he first backs up - rear tires dig a hole, fronts are not driving, you can see both front tires, so I know it's not just a differential thing. You know something's up because he stopped for a second too, for no reason. Watch again carefully and you'll see other times the front drive isn't working, a slight jerkiness to the movement, probably why he's going so slow too. As said, those axles aren't going to last long either pushing 5" plus tires!!

I'll pass!!!
John

[Espeefan]

What axles are in this model? The same ones used in the Armageddon dump truck, I assume? That's kind of what it looks like, but it's hard to tell.

[kenobi]

It looks like it will have great potential but as long as that hydraulic tank is attached it one side door of the drivers cab , I feel it looks very weird and unreal.
http://youtu.be/7Z_EDSr4sjg

[der82c]

Well, from what I have seen in the video, they are having problems with the front drive. Seems the drive for the front tires does not want to work some times. You'll see it in the beginning when he first backs up - rear tires dig a hole, fronts are not driving, you can see both front tires, so I know it's not just a differential thing. You know something's up because he stopped for a second too, for no reason. Watch again carefully and you'll see other times the front drive isn't working, a slight jerkiness to the movement, probably why he's going so slow too. As said, those axles aren't going to last long either pushing 5" plus tires!!

I'll pass!!!
John

its still a differential axle without locking. that is why sometimes left wheel is not turning as the differential gear had transfer the turning to right side wheel. will one the taiwanese had post some work sheet. the rim hub are built in planetary gearer system cause the slow travel. however, i think itself do not have enough weight to press itself grip to the earth.

[A1 Dirt]

It's on the RC4WD site, but listed as "Out of Stock".

http://store.rc4wd.com/112-Scale-Earth-Mover-870K-Hydraulic-Wheel-Loader_p_3828.html

[RCP57]

It "looks" good. I like that it is big and heavy too. Hopefully having planetary axles will help keep those center sections together cause they sure look small between those tires...

[rc13]

Well, at least the cost is a tad less than the China rep quoted me.
I think the look of the loader is cool. Structural appears very strong. Wow, 45LBs!! It looks like it has plenty of room in that humped back for a good size 3s. I am sure it will need it.
Someone else brought up the axles and tranny on this loader, I think that would be the biggest question mark.
Also I am pretty sure it has that extra valve to control the oil pressure along with all of their same hydraulic set up like I had in my HK excavator (that I removed). Just can't get used to that hydraulic sound.
I like the cab, the bucket, the fake brake calipers, the lights, and the overall size.

[dabears]

•CNC machined aluminum parts
•Molded steel bucket
•6 channel 2.4Ghz radio
•Optimized steel hydraulic system
•Scale operator station (can fit a driving figure)
•Massive 29.5-25L-5 tires
•Reliable hydraulic valve and adjustable pump
•Heavy duty hoses (OD 4.5mm Nylon, ID 2.5mm)
•Powder coated in yellow
•Brushless system (hydraulic)
•40A brushless ESC with BEC
•XXX Kv brushless monster torque motor
•Realistic non functional disk break
•Scale ABC plastic interior
•Wheel with planetary gearbox build-in
•2 speed full metal transmission (1:16 and 1:4 gear ratio)
•Realistic fullfull metal axles
•Run time is: XX minutes (XXXXmAh battery)
•Steel machined oil pump (45mm X 30mm X 15.5mm)
•Bucket capacity:
•Maximum bucket force: 70kg/154pounds
•Driving speed: XXX meter per hour
•Scale: 1:12
•Length: 741mm/29inch
•Width: 276mm/11inch
•Height: 276mm/11inch
•Maximum bucket height: 461mm/18inch
•Maximum bucket up and down angle: 46 to 64 degrees
•Maximum bucket left and right angle: 38 degrees
•Wheel base: 284mm
•Deadweight: 20.5kg/45lbs
•Total mass load: 32kg/70lbs
•Operating oil pressure: 20Bar, 290psi
•Manufactured by JDCustoms
•30 days limited warranty

$450 shipping charge!!!! WTF!! 100lbs shipping weight!!! says its a 1/12scale don't like the looks of the trans, axles look like truck axles and whats with the fron disc brakes?
Ill hold out for the Wedico one I dream of owning one day!!

[MoRockN]

$450 shipping charge!!!! WTF!! 100lbs shipping weight!!! says its a 1/12scale don't like the looks of the trans, axles look like truck axles and whats with the fron disc brakes?
Ill hold out for the Wedico one I dream of owning one day!!


I'm sure they'll sell a ton of them to the Right customers. If it was 1/14 scale and $2500 I'd buy one just for the heck of it. but 1/12 scale and $3200 is making it out of the picture for me since I already have a loader. I know it's "crappy" for the most part but remember it is ready to run. By the time me and Eddie got our loaders working the way we want them to be with the right radios, quick couplers, buckets, servonaut sound, ESC, BMA , lights and such and the countless freaking hours spent to get them working and dialed in we're well over $8000 in + shipping and payment fees. Trust me, waiting for stuff for 5-6 weeks at time makes this loader a much better option for people that don't like to tinker and wait, Not to mention almost half the cost. Which makes it hard to part with our loaders and people just don't understand that a wedico loader for $5600 still needs almost another $3000 to make it sweet.

[Lil Giants]

Well, hopefully the 1st production run of loaders goes better than their excavators did... :rolleyes:

[Dieselchopper]

I have been happy with my excavator. It has survived well over 100 hrs of use to date and no issues. Digging in light materials and heavy like sod. I usually am after function before true scale. I put an over sized bucket on it as well with little trouble. I am interested in this loader after the first run bugs are worked out. I think it does have potential.

[dabears]

I'm sure they'll sell a ton of them to the Right customers. If it was 1/14 scale and $2500 I'd buy one just for the heck of it. but 1/12 scale and $3200 is making it out of the picture for me since I already have a loader. I know it's "crappy" for the most part but remember it is ready to run. By the time me and Eddie got our loaders working the way we want them to be with the right radios, quick couplers, buckets, servonaut sound, ESC, BMA , lights and such and the countless freaking hours spent to get them working and dialed in we're well over $8000 in + shipping and payment fees. Trust me, waiting for stuff for 5-6 weeks at time makes this loader a much better option for people that don't like to tinker and wait, Not to mention almost half the cost. Which makes it hard to part with our loaders and people just don't understand that a wedico loader for $5600 still needs almost another $3000 to make it sweet.

I see what your saying. And that's what is nice about this place. many have tested and re worked a lot of things to be able to know what it takes to be "right". I can see the $3200 price tag nice for some but id go with a $8k Wedico that works right and will last. Not that this one wont just my preference I guess. I guess if it was 1/14 scale id have different feelings about it

[MoRockN]

I see what your saying. And that's what is nice about this place. many have tested and re worked a lot of things to be able to know what it takes to be "right". I can see the $3200 price tag nice for some but id go with a $8k Wedico that works right and will last. Not that this one wont just my preference I guess. I guess if it was 1/14 scale id have different feelings about it
Very well said buddy. Same with my truck I got from them, I had to take it apart and rework it to make it right.

[pigeonfarmboy]

I see what your saying. And that's what is nice about this place. many have tested and re worked a lot of things to be able to know what it takes to be "right". I can see the $3200 price tag nice for some but id go with a $8k Wedico that works right and will last. Not that this one wont just my preference I guess. I guess if it was 1/14 scale id have different feelings about it

Don't be too naive Aaron. Have any idea how much stuff myself and others had to rework on the Wedico 966 to "make it right"? Probably just as much if not more than it would take on one of these. I'd say the Liebherr 576 Loader is as close as anyone could get for the highest grade kit offered at this time. Even ScaleArt stuff needs a bit of debugging to get them just right. The hydraulic system is pretty solid (but Wedico doesn't make that part).

I was extremely surprised to see the cost of this kit exceed the excavator. Must have had more development costs considering a loader is a less complicated machine. Especially since they used some existing components from the dumper.

I wish they would state if the axles are locked full-time or are lockable via remote channel.

[MoRockN]

I wish they would state if the axles are locked full-time or are lockable via remote channel.

They're cable lockable Nate. One thing I can tell anyone that's gonna get this loader, those axles are NOT very smooth, so keeping them locked is best since when they're open they "hop" or grind when they're new, until you get them broken "IN" they will seem like they're stripprd.

[pigeonfarmboy]

I've used a drill and polishing compound on ring/pinions many times to break-in axles. I do wish RC4WD would tackle their gear-cutting procedures. Seems to be an issue across the board for all their products.

[Supermario]

Just saw this video on YouTube . My apologies if someone has already posted.

http://youtu.be/yqESn7TZuuY

http://youtu.be/jcHOV997lWY

Mario

[rc13]

Just saw this video on YouTube . My apologies if someone has already posted.

http://youtu.be/yqESn7TZuuY

http://youtu.be/jcHOV997lWY

Mario

The first video will show the loader moving very slow. Watch close and you can tell the gearing/transmission is a little "loosy goosy" (is what I call it). Where there is a little delay for the gearing to engage (like there is a small gap and not a good mesh of the gears). Anyway, that might not be that big of a deal to some.

Check out the 2nd video. Man that loader is huge!!! Look how big it is next to the guys legs at about 20 seconds in.

[weemanch]

they have it posted on there site now.... http://store.rc4wd.com/112-Scale-Earth-Mover-870K-Hydraulic-Wheel-Loader_p_3828.html

[liftmys10]

Looks like it's pushing a lot of weight.

[Stuff]

seems to be doing okay.

guess it would be a "budget" version vs the german/european models. I have that transmission is uses in my semi and it shifts a bit hard sometimes when you change gears.

[Izzy]

Good bad or indifferent - ya gotta give 4c4wd credit for bringing new products.

I like the looks and the detail. Bigger in size than what I prefer, but a good looking model.

Izzy

[ihbuilder]

I'm curious about the tires , are they solid ? Do to the advertised weight they would have to be . My 990 weighs in at 50lbs and squishin mammoth tires filled with foam sill sealer .

If they are solid I would be interested in the tires ;) would they be available separately someday ??:)

[sparkycuda]

The videos have a nice sound system, but no mention of it on the specificiations list. I guess this just an oversight on the list???
Steve, I'd like to have the tires available separately, also. They are perfect size for a Komatsu WA600-7 in 1:14. While machine price is good, an alternative to shipping at $450 would be helpful.
Overall, very nice unit.

Ken

[Espeefan]

It sounds like it has a Servonaut sound system in it. I see what guys are saying about the drivetrain slack. I think that's in the transmission, or maybe the transmission and axles combined. 1st gear looks very low, and 2nd gear to fast. For me, watching this model load trucks in 1st gear is like watching paint dry, but despite all that, I'm happy to RC4WD release some more construction models!

[pigeonfarmboy]

Anyone order one? Looks like they started shipping.

[4X44DAD]

thats pretty cool great detail

[shantiago]

It isn't a Komatsu. The rear hood makes me think of a Leihberr but not sure what it is.

Ken

Guys the model is LiuGong or LG, they are the largest wheel loader manufacturer in the world from china mainland. for wheel loaders CAT, Komatsu, volvo all are behind LG in terms of the numbers.

[fhhhstix]

Guys the model is LiuGong or LG, they are the largest wheel loader manufacturer in the world from china mainland. for wheel loaders CAT, Komatsu, volvo all are behind LG in terms of the numbers.

Fast Facts about LiuGong

• LiuGong ranks as the 20th largest construction equipment manufacturer in the world. In 2012, LiuGong had US$2 billion in sales revenue, selling more than 42,000 total units.

• The company is a leader in the design and production of wheel loaders. In 2012, LiuGong held nearly 14.4% of the global market share in wheel loaders and nearly 20.2% share domestically.

• 1987 – LiuGong introduced Caterpillar technology.

Sorry but I do do my research they are a leader not the leader.

Here is a link to their web site where I got the quote from and I quoted it word for word.

http://www.liugong.com/en_na/about/facts.htm



Travis

[shantiago]

Sorry but I do do my research they are a leader not the leader.

Here is a link to their web site where I got the quote from and I quoted it word for word.

http://www.liugong.com/en_na/about/facts.htm



Travis

LiuGong, officially Guangxi LiuGong Machinery Co., Ltd., is a Chinese multinational construction machinery manufacturing company headquartered in Liuzhou, China. It is the world's 10th-largest construction equipment manufacturer by market share (and the largest based in China), and the world's largest manufacturer of wheel loaders.

Source
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiuGong

[fhhhstix]

LiuGong, officially Guangxi LiuGong Machinery Co., Ltd., is a Chinese multinational construction machinery manufacturing company headquartered in Liuzhou, China. It is the world's 10th-largest construction equipment manufacturer by market share (and the largest based in China), and the world's largest manufacturer of wheel loaders.

Source
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiuGong

You’re going to quote Wikipedia over the actual company its self not to mention the citation #3 and #4 (and the world's largest manufacturer of wheel loaders.[3][4]) go nowhere when you follow the links.:rolleyes:

I am going to guess the company knows better than Wikipedia as to how big they are.;)

But nice try though.

Travis

[mtloperator]

Let's bear in mind that liuGong acquired Dressta which helped get its foot on the werld stage . The dressta designs date back to the IH hough days with some komatsu twist in there during the komatsu days .

[pigeonfarmboy]

Crossing my fingers someone is going to surprise us with one @ Indy!

[liftmys10]

Crossing my fingers someone is going to surprise us with one @ Indy!

When is the indy show?

[ihbuilder]

When is the indy show?

next weekend

[liftmys10]

next weekend

Ughhhh I just bought my first RC excavator and would have came but too short of notice.
On a future note, how does one transport a 43lbs excavator on a plane from California to Indiana?

[ihbuilder]

private jet in my dreams :p

[pigeonfarmboy]

Ughhhh I just bought my first RC excavator and would have came but too short of notice.
On a future note, how does one transport a 43lbs excavator on a plane from California to Indiana?

Drain hydraulic fluid and build a shipping crate to send to the hotel. Have one us jerks bring fluid to the show.

[Izzy]

Or like some manufactures
Leave oilin it
Poorly back in a box
Ship as cheap as possible
Receive dismantle clean fix repair order parts fix some more replace electronics fight with manufacturer get p- offed think about leaving the hobby get bored put it together find the flaws fix the flaws and then consider selling and buy a smaller model

.....just sayin,cause a few have had it about that bad......

[Kaf343]

Or like some manufactures
Leave oilin it
Poorly back in a box
Ship as cheap as possible
Receive dismantle clean fix repair order parts fix some more replace electronics fight with manufacturer get p- offed think about leaving the hobby get bored put it together find the flaws fix the flaws and then consider selling and buy a smaller model

.....just sayin,cause a few have had it about that bad......



Well put!