Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

OK guys, I'll admit, I'm flattered, but I wouldn't nominate for "build" of the year though ... "assembly thread" would be more appropriate since I didn't really "build" this one.

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Quick update. The 2 pieces to attach the hook mechanism to the frame arrived yesterday. So can now replace the ones I messed up when I had to drill out the screws after I broke of the head.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psv250cjzo.jpg

I had also ordered a complete set of street tires a) to see how the truck behaves with those and b) because I am partial to the look of them.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pseqi4p9fp.jpg

While I replace the tires I will also adjust the track rods of the rear axle. The wheel is not nicely centred in the fender like the other one.

First rear axle, ± centred

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pspj6k0f1r.jpg

Last one too far back and the tire hits the fender sometimes. Think I will have to shorten the track rod about 1.5 to 2mm. While I have the fenders off I can at the same time paint those stainless screw heads black too.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psy4ha8nj7.jpg

Cheers

Stephan

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Looking forward to see the street gear mounted :)

And you should get a bonus from scaleart, since your assembly story inspired me to get a "Baustoffmulde" as well ;)

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

The detail of this truck is crazy. This is why I love scaleart!

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Hi Tom, wish I could show you pictures, but every time I think of starting on the Arocs something comes up.
Hopefully I can get to it later this week.
Congrats on getting the "Baustoffmulde"!
It will be a great addition to your Palfinger equipped truck!
Green with envy over that one, :drool:

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Hi Cosworth, yup the detailing is excellent.

Have a look at this cast piece! A part of my next truck :)

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pszlo9z99s.jpg

My fingers are itching to start on this one, but first the Arocs and all the stuff I have been putting off.
(or as my wife puts it, first the things you've been putting off, then your toys)

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Hi stephan , where are the spider from and what type of rim are they designed to go in as they are the cleanest ones Ive seen ?

Cheers Tracy

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Hi Tracy, it is from the Trilex series from Scaleart. They have the 6-hole version (which I ordered) and the more modern 10-hole version. Both are metal casts.

https://scaleart-shop.de/en/Drive-Technology/Wheels/

The pictures in their webshop don't really show the detail. I was pleasantly surprised when I unpacked this one.

Couldn't find the 6-hole version for the front axle. Turned out that you have to order the front axle with them so they are under rear axles (no wonder I had a hard time finding them :confused: )

https://scaleart-shop.de/en/Drive-Te...es/Rear-Axles/

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Hi all, a couple of days ago I noticed that Christian (Newcomer_2) posted the pictures of the updated cross brace ScaleART released for the container on a German site. Rather than giving you the link to the site it would be nice if he would post them here.

So I took the liberty to ask him if he would be so kind as to do that. Looking forward to him posting when he has the time.

So by the time he has updated us on the fix I will hopefully have sorted out some of the stuff that is temporarily keeping me from messing around with the truck.

:)

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Hi Stephan,

thank you for inviting me to post some pictures of the updated cross brace for the container in your thread.

Let´s start! - In the following picture you can see an extract of the manual, the new cross brace (= the black parts) an the old version (the red part on right side):

http://up.picr.de/23254692qt.jpg


And here you can have a closer look on the updated parts and the first step of the assembling:

http://up.picr.de/23254688dr.jpg

http://up.picr.de/23254691ob.jpg


The next step is to mount it on the container. Because of the contersunk holes on the longitudinal profile of the carriage, I swapped the round head screws of the manual against countersunk screws and bolted them from the outside inwards. The screw head I simply painted black with a waterproof pen.

http://up.picr.de/23254686us.jpg

http://up.picr.de/23254687sl.jpg

http://up.picr.de/23254698nb.jpg


The new cross brace has passed the function test. It can slide under the hooks of the roll-on/-off-mechanism and is held securely. The small scratches prove a secure hold.

http://up.picr.de/23254699wk.jpg

http://up.picr.de/23254704rl.jpg


It also fits to the trailor:

http://up.picr.de/23254703we.jpg

http://up.picr.de/23254701no.jpg

http://up.picr.de/23254702jo.jpg


I'm glad because of the supporting of ScaleART in such cases. If there is a problem, they're always searching for a solution.

Stephan, now it´s your turn to go on. But first of all do all the the other things around you! Then you can much more enjoy the assembling. ;)

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Thank you Christian! If we had to wait till I receive the updated parts and find the time to install it, would have taken forever :)

Interesting to see how it fits/hooks to the trailer too! Always wondered about that.

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Today appointments got cancelled and it rained so no painting the front door ... meaning I could do some stuff to the Arocs.

First replace the bits I mucked up drilling out the screws. A bit of a fiddle with all the hydraulic lines installed, but all in all doable. Good thing I re-ordered the screws because seriously messed up the head of the countersunk screw due to the loctite used. Should have heated the screw with a soldering iron to loosen the loctite.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pssjlw8gzh.jpg

Replaced them one side at the time.

Here the worst one with the replacement. Replacement is gloss and looks better finished.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psssu4h2gk.jpg

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psejeoycup.jpg

Had to take the fenders of to do this repair. Painted the screws holding them together black - something I picked up from Christian. Looks much better this way.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psll28c3ez.jpg

Then had to adjust the tracking rods on the rear axle. In the manual they indicated about 50mm, so shortened them to 48.5 mm. Not so easy to get those track rods off. Good thing I have a flexible screw driver.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8drutwpw.jpg

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psgr3j0zt8.jpg

Then replace the off-road tires to street tires.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psgyo29btp.jpg

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psnjgyh3sx.jpg

Could have shortened the tracking rod a bit more, but still better than before.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psib56yye4.jpg

And everything back in place and working.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psnbwchdla.jpg

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pslevqubcl.jpg

That's it. :)

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Looks neat! And curious about your new project as well :)

Br,
Thomas

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

The next truck is sitting here in the box :)

It's a MAN TGX/XL 6x6 tractor - with some changes to the standard package to keep things interesting - and a halfpipe trailer. Should keep me busy for a while.

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Beautiful truck. I would think for the money they charge for those kits they would include hex hardware instead of phillips.

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Yes, you are right, it would have been nice to have more if not all hex fasteners. But since the phillips screws are predominantly in areas not normally visible it is not such a big deal (personal opinion). Like most companies it is a delicate balance between profit (survival) and quality.

Considering this stuff is 100% made in Germany, not known for low wages / taxes, ScaleART probably make less of a profit than the Chinese competitors who sell their stuff at half the cost.

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Agreed. As long as they are hidden.

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Hi Sneff, during the build I thought of replacing some of the philips with model nuts, but never got around to it. Too difficult to source them here in Malaysia.

I'm stopping on the Arocs for a bit. Ordered an SM3 sound module for it. I'm going to start on the MAN and will get back to the Arocs when I do the wiring on the new one.

Pretty happy with the Arocs at the moment and not too bothered with the sound and lights that aren't working. I also decided not to bother with replacing the cross brace with the updated one.

Here a quick pic of the frame rails of the MAN 6x6 tractor in relation to the 8x8.

Longer than I thought it would be.

http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psnwe7g8qf.jpg


Cheers!

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Thought Id show you my budget Arocs. Lol
http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/...su7wgvuum.jpeg

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

Lego is amazing to! I have a rolloff lego truck but its too small for our scale.

Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
 

I have one of those on my "to do" list ...