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I've been burning up the charges the last 3 nights carving away at the wall.. by the time it's time to leave the wall to deal with the dirt below, I'll be driving off - down the pile, not far from the floor now! :cool:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/008-1.jpg Although, time for a little bit of service at end of shift tonite, this track got clogged up with packed clay inside the links causing some binding issues. A few times, the way the track was twisting over the idler & drive sprocket I thought it was on the brink of skipping off! The excessive tightness in the track doesn't fiz on the torque of the drive motors at all.. oodles of power with these new track drives! :cool: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/006-2.jpg Soak the track in the kitchen sink for ten minutes melts the clay away. ;) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/005-3.jpg The other track still on the machine, I dripped a bit of blue lock-tite on each wrist pin when upgrading to the new track drives last November, they're all still in place. This side the pins are sliding out.. looks like experiment is a success.. although I haven't tried knocking any of them pins out that lock-tite'd :thinking:, shouldn't be a problem with some force! :D http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/012-1.jpg Third time was the charm trying to solder my leaky cylinder, the laquer thinner was the culprit for the solder balling up & falling off. Once I washed the cylinder down with brake/electrical cleaner, then the solder flowed no problem and I used my acetylene/oxygen with the smallest tip for the heat source.. several hrs later & it's still not leaking! :) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/003-1.jpg I got a few other pieces sitting on the bench waiting for me to tear down for repairs.. the dozer, right track frame popped off drive motor, probably in need of a new machined mount. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/001-2.jpg The GL dump trk, I think the middle axle might have a tooth missing in the crown gear, something is clicking causing a skip or maybe it's the rear axle.. 50/50/90 Rule - what's the wager I tear down the wrong axle 1st?! :p http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...202012/002.jpg |
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Hi Joe, I don't know if you heard but WBBM, Chicago talk radio was discussing your basement dig today. My wife listens to the station and came home and said "guess what I heard On the radio", she said they got a lot of call ins from hobbyists in support of the project and in the hobby in general. She also felt the DJ's didn't know alot about what was going and weren't very serious, and she wonders why we don't listen to that station when I'm in the Jeep. Keep up the good work, its fun to watch!
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Was that AM780 talk radio? What's the name of the program? I was googling to try to find a podcast of it..
Yeah Kent, that doesn't surprise me that the DJ's were trying to make a comedy special of it... that's what the last two weeks has been like, whether it was talk radio or answering articles for newspapers & online, the general misconception is "man playing with toys in his basement for 15yrs". It was a bizarre story that everyone wanted to report.. rather than it was an unusual new hobby that many others might like to know more about & get involved with. TOY bulldozers & Toy trucks... "don't you think they are more efficient ways to renovate your basement?", was the most often asked question I got. People who don't have, don't do hobbies don't get it! Simply put. All they see is "toys normally for kids and this adult playing with them". They're clueless to the complicacy & intricacy involved in the creation of these minature models and fail to realise the sophisicated machinery & highly skilled tradesmen that this hobby demands to not only design a high quality, durable product, but also the high skill of an individual it takes to assemble & fine tune the model to perfect working order... not something the average 10yr old could slap together to take to his backyard sandbox. I didn't do a very good job of explaining that the last couple weeks.. I'm not a public speaker (verbally) & got caught completely unprepared with the publicity.. about the time I calmed down and overlooked ppl's short jokes towards my hobby & my private life as an individual and focused moreso on explaining what the hobby involved.. too late, the media moved on. However, I may have a 2nd chance this summer, there's a couple of TV news & documentary programs that have been quite adamant to get me on camera.. I told them I'd talk to them again in July.. I'd think about it awhile. I can show them the numerous parts in a kit, the mechanical, electrical & hydraulic components necessary to build a powerful & functional model. ;) |
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I kinda know what you mean Joe. When the guys I work with found out about my hobby they thought I was just playing with toys. So one day I took a couple of trucks and a kit to work and showed them, then they stopped kidding me about playing with toys and now ask about whats new on my work bench and ask for pics. It is surprising the turn around people have once they see them and understand the complexity of our hobby.
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"It is surprising the turn around people have once they see them and understand the complexity of our hobby."
for some it's that way , others still think we're just playing with toys :confused: I lothe that term " Toys " when it comes to these models :confused: they actually can be very usefull in real life . take dragline world for instance , I beleive I read correctly , that they do some training on those models . It gives a miniture real life experiance as opposed to a simulator . |
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The aussie radio talk media was pretty cool about it, but 4 minutes wasn't enough time to even get a mention of this forum over the air... :( The germans, well they invented this hobby for all of us and have been very kind with their remarks, though I still saw the word toys mentioned in the article. The cdn media has been very disappointing...
Although I did do a phone interview with some one from the Weather Network in Toronto this morning.. she'll write the article, then send to me to edit, then post it online.. so a better chance for proper info will be posted this time. Any fellow co workers pick up the hobby since your "show & tell" Travy? A vid from last night showing a big boulder the size of a car (a scale sized car that is :p) that I dug up with the 850. :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXxc1aaZi0E |
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I saw that idea float around on quite a few forums Stevie, after ppl read about our hobby, as well as indepth discussion of remote construction processes on the moon & Mars.. a bit beyond my realm of imagination though. :D
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My problem is getting use to not being in the seat with the model . but then I spend a lot of time building then running them :( I hope to change that soon I got plans for coaling the furnace with the loader and Mack :D spring is on the way but I got some house work to finish before I start my mini RR construction off my silo .
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An oil company just finnished putting in a 4" natural gas line just a mile north of my farm where it ended after 18miles of construction from a treater. At one time there was 11 track hoes working, all within a mile of each other, I was sitting on a hill watching them a couple different afternoons. I spoke to one of the operators briefly, told him about my hobby and he later stopped by after work. The controls on my radio are the same as the Hitachi 230 model he was running, so I gave him the radio remote to my 850 right away.. you should have seen it! He was chasing the model hoe around, he couldn't make it work without standing behind it.. 15yr operator! :D |
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yea ,I was in the operator seat since I was 10 . I started on a koering 6605 in 1987 . I'll have to post a pic of that lil excavator (14000 hrs on it ) they're the biggest 1's we have anymore :( I miss my 307 cat :( with practice , I'll get there ;) I got to build mine 1st though :rolleyes:
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Take heart, Joe. It's a hobby and past time, just like everything else we do for fun. This hobby is not so much different then model railroading, and look how often outsiders call that hobby 'playing with toy trains'. It doesn't help the fact either, that there really are some toy trains, and then there are some genuine scale models of trains. The difference is significant, but the uneducated people really don't know any better. The guys who collect the toy trains are fine with the term toy (because they know they are toys), but if you called an HO scale modeler's super detailed locomotive the same thing, he'd be offended.
In the same way, this scale modeling facite of the hobby really is unique and shares very little in common with the other radio controlled models out there. And because it's still so new to North America, most people might not understand the level of engineering that goes into replicating a functional scale piece of equipment. They aren't really toys, but miniature scale machines. They work the same way, function the same way, look the same way, but are just on a smaller scale. Eventually people may figure it out, but maybe the best way to prove it all of the sudden is to just tell them how much a good excavator costs, and that should dispell the thought of these things being toys. Anyway Joe, I wouldn't worry to much about what the outsiders think. One just has to look at your youtube videos and see how popular they are among those who really know the hobby. I think your videos do a much better job of promoting the hobby then anything else out there. |
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Yeah, I know I'm being a Suck, licking my wounds from the last couple weeks.. within a day or so of it beginning, I made the mistake of googling my name, username and man digs basement to figure out where all the misinformation started.. reading the comments on various forums & blogs along way.. I'd say 99% was very positive & the 1%er's cut deep with their remarks.. a couple of internet cowards had the nerve to link this hobby with pedophilia.. that made me very defensive from then on while discussing my hobby with the world media!
Anyways, I thought I'd share a little bit of my experience of it all with the rest of you so when the spotlight shines on you, you won't get rattled like I did. ;) On a different note.. I betcha you can't guess what THIS IS?! :D (I've got two more boxes to show up) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/001-3.jpg |
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Fantastic... I knew it wouldn't be long!!! :D But i'm confused? The tyres are from the 50 or 4206 but as there are 6 esc's I'm thinking 50, but they are brushess, so now I'm thinking 40. I'm confused :-) |
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Is it an articulated dumptruck chassis being converted to scraper duty?
Cheer's, Neil. |
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Hmm , I'm thinking a 6 x 6 hual tractor with some bottom dumps ?
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Ooooh, the suspense:eek::p:D
Cheer's, Neil. |
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my guess is the Bell ADT to match the deere 850:D
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Mobile cement mixer? need a floor soon.
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Ooooooh, I know:eek::p:o "A Turbo Encabulator":D:D
Cheer's, Neil. |
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Whatever it is it'll have to wait, Number 1 is in dire need of attention! :p
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/016-1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/008-2.jpg Pump started getting noisy last wkend, the bearing in this support is toast! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/006-3.jpg The whole top end here needs a bath! Tear it all down, clean it, shorten wires and mount electronics permanent, I got it working the way I want it to. Got to fit everything better so I can get the hood to sit flush. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/007-2.jpg Got a mountain of dirt to clear away! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/017-1.jpg I was hoping to get all the way across with this 6 inch cut before leaving the wall, but the right track went dead, a set screw somewhere in the powertrain lost its grip! I did make a movie crippling it down with one functional track, but I didn't position the lighting correctly & the dark shadows make some it hard to see. :( It took nearly an hour to shape shift dirt to do it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/018-1.jpg |
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Bummer on the breakdown, hope you get it back up and digging soon!
I've moved full size hoes with a dead track, not fun at all. Cheer's, Neil. |
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I'm guessing an articulated dump truck as well. Those made by Fumotec are really nice.
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Took about an hour to strip it down.. my hands are black! :eek:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/001-4.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/003-2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/004-3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/005-4.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/007-3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/008-3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...202012/009.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/012-2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/013-1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/014-1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/016-2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/017-2.jpg I sent Frank a mail for his thoughts.. (funny guy :D) "Congratulations, i´m 100% shure that your model is the first that move 4 cubic of such a hard clay, normaly people just “play” with ther models. And congratulations as whell, youre the first that gets the pump unit fall in pieces, your my product tester! No, just joking a bit, it´s really interesting for me, what can happens if you really use the machine." The bit of good luck with the 1 box arriving Friday is that it has another pump assembly in it, I can rob the bearings from it and get my hoe back together in a couple hrs. ;) Here's a part 1 of descending off the wall last night. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7b4z106dC8 |
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Hi, I have a quick question. I have the same Ex. and I see that your swing motor set-up is different them mine. I have a geared motor with a wormdrive on it to run the swing gear. Yours has a geared motor directly running the swing gear. Is this the way your Ex came or is this something you changed yourself? I ask because with the worm set-up I have, when the hoe is off level at all, the swing is not smooth. It just is not that good of a set-up. I though about running a set-up like you have. Thanks, Chad
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Hey Joe, is there room to "double up" the outboard support bearing on the pump??? Just curious as usual.
Chad, Joe did change the swing motor, I think it's mentioned, earlier in this thread. Not sure which page? Cheer's, Neil. |
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Wow, you really destroyed that bearing! I kind of wonder what caused the failure. Dirt, to much tension on the belt, or maybe just plain wore it out? If dirt was the case, maybe a rubber sealed bearing would be better? I'd hate to say run a bushing instead, but I don't think you'd wear one of those out so quick.
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cbazq271, I had a terrible time with my swing drive.. there's a proper way to set up a worm drive system & I didn't know it at the time.. I tried afterward, but I think I ruined my gears already & couldn't get it to work anyway.
Frank had this prototype vertical direct mount that he sent me to try & that solved all my violent pulsating problems. PFB complained of the same problem and his hoe was built by Vario.. With my latest goodies from Fumotec I got three of these vertical swing drives for my fellow hobbyists in north america who have one of these Vario 850's.. it requires some machining on your part, the output shaft of the vertical motor is smaller diameter than the pinion gear and too short as well. You will have to make a steel bushing/longer shaft to connect pinion directly on motor. PFB is welcome to one, you can have one cbazq and one left yet. They cost me 45 euro, you can PP me $60usd + shipping, PM me your address. I'll get it out to you next week sometime. I think my problem with that bearing on the pump Neil & Nathan is perhaps the bearing slipped out of place a wee bit & was rubbing on the belt pulley.. friction = heat -> cooked the bearing. I lock-tite the new bearing in place and shimmed the support plate out a bit too. 850 is back together and working fine. :) |
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Hey Joe, now the hoe is all sorted... whats in the box :D
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Joe that swing seems to work a lot better. I watch your video and the way you were setting my machine would not work. It did it at the show in York Pa. I have not done anything with it sense then but I am going to change the lines over the stick and put new shafts in the drive units with screw in pins were the set screws are then they can't turn unless they brake the pins. Ed
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You don't need new shafts Ed, just machine flat spots where your set screws grip. Drilling a hole for a set screw pin might weaken the shafts to twist off/break at the holes.
Here's pic showing the hole I had to cut in the 850 body b/c the vertical mount motor being too tall. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/001-5.jpg I'll get you some more pics tomorrow or Sunday for you to tilt your head & wonder Elliot. :p :D |
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Joe , whats the thickness of the main structure plate , 3mm or 4mm ? Just curious :o
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Glad to hear it's fixed! Gotta luv that Locktite stuff!
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5mm thickness Steve.
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Yes please Joe, you gave us that little teaser and then you've gone on cold on me! ;) |
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thank you Joe ;) you know I'm itchin :rolleyes: every time I run Rods at a meet :eek: I'm getting use to running the rc 1 :) It was a lot easier today .
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Did Nathan bring out his 850 for you to run too Steve? Or is the JD controls beyond your realm of thinking? :p :D
This is what I built today Elliot from pre cut pieces Frank sent me.. :) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/001-6.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/002-1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2012/003-3.jpg |
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Awesome! Looks like your regular bucket needs another coat of paint!
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