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Azonic 03-05-2013 05:48 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
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Here you go Ed.

These look really nice but seem to be for smaller excavators from what i can see/read. :(

From Frank, taken from Facebook:

" Breite 57mm, 8mm Kettenteilung, und 4mm Bolzen. Wenn noch Fragen sind, meld Dich!"

"In kürze werden die Kettenglieder verfügbar sein. Kettenbreite 57mm, 4mm Kettenbolzen mit 8er Teilung (16mm Kettenbolzenabstand). Zum Preis von je 3,80 Euro inkl. dem passenden Kettenbolzen.

English: "Width 57mm, 8mm chain pitch, and 4mm bolt. Meld If there are any questions, you!"

"In brief, the chain links will be available. Chain width 57mm, 4mm chain bolts with 8 mm pitch (16mm link pin spacing). At a price of 3.80 euros each including the appropriate link pins.

JAMMER 03-05-2013 06:06 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Kalle thank you for the help. As for the with 57 mm is 2.25 inches seems wide enough but the pock metal may be the problem with wear. Ed

RCLogger 03-05-2013 07:23 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Joe That is one big bucket you built for the WA500, it is almost like a sawdust bucket they use at sawmills. Here is the lift of my 980

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps8e2197fd.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps22a72fe3.jpg

Lil Giants 03-05-2013 10:54 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Ed, being I don't do facebook, the link does nothing for me.

Thanx Kalle for posting them up. :cool: I added the english script... 5.80E = $5.15cdn Strength & durability could be an issue... my tracks can get quite clogged with moist clay - you've seen what I've done to an output shaft b/c of jammed material. :eek:

HOLY SMOKES GREG!!! your loader is a BEAST!!! :cool:

Azonic 03-05-2013 12:48 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil Giants (Post 80194)
Ed, being I don't do facebook, the link does nothing for me.

Thanx Kalle for posting them up. :cool: I added the english script... 5.80E = $5.15cdn Strength & durability could be an issue... my tracks can get quite clogged with moist clay - you've seen what I've done to an output shaft b/c of jammed material. :eek:

HOLY SMOKES GREG!!! your loader is a BEAST!!! :cool:

Yes, strength could be an issue, but i actually dont think these are for the Vario machines, the pitch doesnt seem to be the same as the plastic ones, but maybe a new sprocket and idler is up, i dont know if Frank has an smaller 1:14 excavator on the way or what but we will see, i have sent Frank an mail about it, ill let you know when he reply me! :)

Driving in moist clay you will get your tracks clogged, it doesnt work like on 1:1 machines where the clay/dirt will fall off more easy, i dont think you can get away from clogging on our machines. I dont think they are made for going in wet areas either, even tho i do it becuse its great fun! :) If they had been mjade for taking on wet/watery areas the motors should have been in the center of the undercarrige.

Ohh well, i would love metal tracks for my 470 if not to high priced, just for the scale of it! :)

catmack 03-05-2013 04:49 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Azonic, are you wanting to replace all the components for a metal undercarriage on your 470 or are you wanting just chains and pads?...I think the new tracks look great for detail especially, I agree on the durability though.

Lil Giants 03-05-2013 05:55 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Kalle, Frank does have a new track hoe in the works, as he told me a few days ago (no pics though)

Bauma Fair / Show in Munich it´s the worlsd biggest show for construction machines and equipment. There on the Komatsu both should my latest upgraded wheelloader the WA500-7 and the brandnew excavator PC 490-10 be ready. This whill be a hard work to get both models finshed.

Yes Kalle, very true, the dirt can't be scaled down to 14th density. :D

Azonic 03-05-2013 08:47 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by catmack (Post 80223)
Azonic, are you wanting to replace all the components for a metal undercarriage on your 470 or are you wanting just chains and pads?...I think the new tracks look great for detail especially, I agree on the durability though.

No, the undercarrige is all metal on my 470, only the track link and pad are plastic and thats what i want to change, yes durability would be a problem with these.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil Giants (Post 80239)
Kalle, Frank does have a new track hoe in the works, as he told me a few days ago (no pics though)

Bauma Fair / Show in Munich it´s the worlsd biggest show for construction machines and equipment. There on the Komatsu both should my latest upgraded wheelloader the WA500-7 and the brandnew excavator PC 490-10 be ready. This whill be a hard work to get both models finshed.

Yes Kalle, very true, the dirt can't be scaled down to 14th density. :D

Ohh really, thats cool! :)

Will be nice to see some pics of that one, i guess it wont have the same weight as ours due to the tracks beeing pot/die cast tracks, really cool anyway! :)

Nope, too bad we cant have everything! ;)

Lil Giants 03-07-2013 09:24 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Made a movie of the WA500 loading lumps at the beginning, GOSH! another 3 inches lift would make a great bit of difference Greg. :D The length of my loader arms are 9 inches, what's your's?

Near the end of the movie the loader is pushing up "fines", I thought those fatter tires would have floated better than the originals... not much difference though. :confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olBRlXIMqhs

RCLogger 03-07-2013 12:09 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Loader arms on the 980 ( Boom pin > pin ) 10 inches

greg

tracksntreadslou 03-10-2013 11:56 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Joe ..What rumors have you heard about NEW Dozers ..Come on "details " if you have some ..lol

The Kamatsu Looks good with the new boots and Bucket ..The wider tire may give you a little less traction due to less psi for surface area ..Probably not noticable on this scale though ..lol..I have a complete set of six as well ..Thinking i may swap out the mamoth tires off the Hitachi ADT

Joe thinking about that exta line on the scaleart track loader pump ..Years ago i bought a Complete Graupner set up..On the bottom of the pump there is a very small hole ...too small for a fitting or any type of connection ..the pump is in my adt now ..When i ues it there is always a few small drips that come out of that hole ..nothing signicant ..never had it apart though ..always wondered why

Espeefan 03-10-2013 12:00 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Perhaps it won't be long and Frank will start on a dozer? He's got some pretty good track drives already. On his home page is a video link to a tracked dump truck that he is showing off. It looks pretty interesting.

http://www.fumotec.de/videos/raupendumper/index.php

Lil Giants 03-16-2013 08:02 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Here's one of them Lou, still in the drawing works though... like the other two.

http://www.modell-baustelle.de/index...&threadID=5983


I found out what the 3rd hole was for - some oil gets under the gears & will travel down the drive shaft with the pressure it creates within the chamber, which is where that hole go to.

Yeah Nathan, Frank seems to be really cranking out the new models lately, about one a year... who knows. ;)

mog 03-17-2013 09:53 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
thanks Joe. if you get a tig welder let me know and i will come help you get going and set you up. you can tig off of a D/C stick welder i bet you got one of them. i loving the snow it's snowing right now.

Lil Giants 03-19-2013 03:01 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
I'll probably take you shopping with me so I get exactly what I need Martin. ;)

Well, Spring can't be more than 2 or 3 weeks away... getting ready to some serious hauling out of my basement this summer, got a mountain of fines that need to go! Gonna have to move at least 4 cu yd out this yr! :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps02828bb3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps81b56d42.jpg

Pup the same size as the trk.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps38082e54.jpg

Got to make some repairs on the trk too. :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps6a202ef9.jpg


Waiting on goodies from Tower Hobbies & IHSteve to get this rig working asap!

modelman 03-19-2013 11:44 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Hi joe-I have been following your thread like everyone else and it looks like you have plenty of work to do come spring. I will be anxious to see the D9 working outside. That is some machine!!

Stuff 03-19-2013 12:28 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Should be an interesting year again Joe!! snow drifts are up to the hood of the truck in places out here! they saying we might get another flood year :( I really hope we don't!! I like my home where it is, not washed into the USA!

It shows you really work your equipment! never seen an axle give like that! but then never seen one haul so much dirt! lol

dabears 03-19-2013 03:43 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Joe that pup gives me ideas! I like the way you used un used frame rails.

cmt643 03-20-2013 11:13 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
I have just one question on my PC the dump body for you trailer looks like it is plastic and if it is plastic then would it stand up the the weight of the dirt that you haul.

Lil Giants 03-20-2013 02:30 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Thanx Tom... look for it some time in later June, when my machine shed is emptied out, I'll start doing some landscaping in there. ;)

Not too bad around here Dean, about avg, just hoping it doesn't melt too fast, get an even soak everywhere.

This is the 2nd axle tlt to break this winter (the white GL was last month), alot of weight on that front axle & it's always the right that hits the bottom of the ramp 1st... I asked RC4WD if they had a metal one, they said no - only the rear non steering. :( I got a couple of spares to used up yet.

cmt643, yes it is plastic. The trk has probably hauled around & out of the basement more than 10 cubes. The belly dump trl is plastic, trap doors are 20 ga steel & has been in regular use since 2005.

buzzy16 03-20-2013 05:52 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Hi joe, I'v seen a few people use these.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCXGG

I dont know how well they fit under the trucks or anything but they are metal axels?

Lil Giants 03-20-2013 11:33 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Thanx for the tip Buzzy, but after looking over Travis' review thread on them... axles are different ratio, gotta buy the whole set and probably too narrow as well for the bigger tires I'm using, all rear duals are already shimmed out with the tam stock axles. Plus the higher reduction I don't need, got plenty making the trk alomost too slow now.

http://www.rctruckandconstruction.co...ead.php?t=6008

Got about 4 or 5yrs use out of each tlt axle before they snapped... cost of doing business. :rolleyes: :D

buzzy16 03-21-2013 12:17 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Ah yes ok, iv just seen a couple of people use them, thought I'd let you know just Incase, but if the others lasted that long it's not too bad anyway. As long as they still build them how they used to 5 years ago :p

cdm 03-21-2013 03:44 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
you can always go for the non driven metal front axle if you can sacrifice the traction it gives you.

im thinking with that much weight in the bed it shouldnt even matter

Lil Giants 03-21-2013 08:32 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
That powered front axle makes quite a difference, moreso when it's empty, and especially now with a pup in tow... no flat road where these trks go.

Lil Giants 03-27-2013 05:35 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
I got the last of the loose material cleaned up, about 10 bd loads were dry enough to crush & will be used for backfill... give me something to do while waiting for the next area to soak up water, then do some more digging.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psd99601ec.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psec29af66.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...psd0e59172.jpg

Big pile of fines to go out! Perhaps I get started on some of it within two weeks.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps0fa1a923.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps2938a66f.jpg

Azonic 03-27-2013 07:16 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Whooha! Thats a lot of dirt to get out yes! :) Plenty of buckets and loads! Would be nice to help you out with the 470! :)

cdm 03-27-2013 07:20 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
You should have a haul meet in your basement. You can eat through that in a day with enough people.

MoRockN 03-27-2013 09:04 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cdm (Post 82842)
You should have a haul meet in your basement. You can eat through that in a day with enough people.

I like his Idea:D. But that is indeed a lot of dirt. I cant wait for the next series of videos.

Snochaser 03-27-2013 03:58 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
How's the 963 doing? Any problems? Nice big ole' pile of dirt you've worked up.

Ben

RCP57 03-27-2013 04:13 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cdm (Post 82842)
You should have a haul meet in your basement. You can eat through that in a day with enough people.

Yeah that is a great idea but you would have to convince Joe that he likes people first:p.

Lil Giants 03-28-2013 12:16 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Azonic (Post 82841)
Whooha! Thats a lot of dirt to get out yes! :) Plenty of buckets and loads! Would be nice to help you out with the 470! :)

No no no, I run the hoe, you just show up with a dump trk & I'll keep you busy. :D

Most of that pile is from last winter, knocking down over 7cy from the wall, might have gotten out maybe 2cy last summer (tore out & rebuilt 3 miles of barb wire fence last summer, didn't have much ambition at the end of day for dirt hauling)... probably added more than cube this winter to it from the floor dig & other stuff.

Yeah, it's too bad for me there aint no interest nearby for contract trkers... much like 1:life size, I kinda hate trucking, unless it's really short distance hauling... gonna be alot of trips up the stairs to look out the kitchen window for a 3D view to jack knife the pup each load... although the exercise will no doubt shrink the middle of me that showed up after I sold my cow herd last yr. :eek: :D :p

I don't think there'd be room enough for more than 3 trks with the single lane way, which shouldn't be too much wait time between loads, 1 is loading, 1 is going out or in & 1 is dumping.

The 963 is working great Ben, just how I want it to now. :) ...although I don't like those Scale Art tracks with its large holes in the middle of them. They're great to let the dirt out of the track link, but also let in alot of dirt too, which seems to jam up behind & on top of the front idler wheel, it's always squeaking/squeeling travelling in reverse & seems to be quite a bit of resistance at times too. :(

Also, I think all the track link pins are made from brass :confused: & every one of them is bent slightly, which causes binding/stalling issues with the sprockets/drive motors occassionally... gotta replace them all with steel pins. :rolleyes:

D8R 03-28-2013 03:02 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Impressive work done with those models. If I was a serios model manufacture I would have sent you models for testing durability, can't see that anyone else doing this as much as you!
/Dan

JAMMER 03-28-2013 06:11 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Joe the German build these things for toys and we like to use them like real ones,what we need it scale dirt and rocks. That would solve the problem. Ed

Stuff 03-28-2013 07:13 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
when I get my new truck ill lock up the axles and see how busy you can keep me :P

Lil Giants 03-28-2013 11:45 AM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
I think I make the "manufacturers" cringe Dan :D, finding the flaws in what they spent so much time & $ in R&D to develop it... I sent Scale Art a message through their website with some questions that I was having trouble with their model, just before xmas ----> no reply as of yet. :rolleyes:

That's something that is often not realized Ed, the dirt doesn't scale down to 14th scale density! it is what it is. :)

Don't forget your gear reduction options Dean, chrome don't get you home, but more gears will. :D Shoo Goo the diffs is much better than full locks, the corners are tight! :eek:

cdm 03-28-2013 12:25 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Hah they dont want the models tested. They just want to sell you eyecandy at absurd prices :)

ihbuilder 03-28-2013 01:51 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
You wouldn't make me cringe Joe :p If my mack would fit through the window, we'd have that pile out in no time :D .

cdm 03-28-2013 02:02 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ihbuilder (Post 82963)
You wouldn't make me cringe Joe :p If my mack would fit through the window, we'd have that pile out in no time :D .

there the classic ways of getting it in the truck..

http://www.dimensionsinfo.com/wp-con...ent-Shovel.jpg

it has been 20 years since ive touched a wheelbarrow tho

Lil Giants 03-28-2013 04:59 PM

Re: Hauling Dirt out of my basement (present day)
 
Your Mack needs a lot work yet Steve before it could climb that spiral, starting with better tires with thicker sidewalls, and much much lower reduction to keep the spd constant so you don't jerk the load off, there's an 8' stretch on the 1st incline that's 14*! ;) How tall is it anway? The Mammoth fits through the window. I'd probably have to widen the entire roadway 8" for you and double the width in the corners. The Mammoth only has an inch or so side to side & 4 or 5 back ups to make each corner.

Using a 20L bucket (5.2us ga) for a volume measurement, what's the mack hold?
Each tandem trk & bd trl is about 4.5L and a 27" semi trl is about 7L.


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