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Thanks IZZY!

Hi Alex, glad to see you on here, boy have I got some news for you! Watch for a PM or I might even give you a call in the next week and thanks, the truck should start moving along, just a few more parts to make for the rear suspension.:D

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A quick update, got the transfer case and front drive line mounted. Used a modified Axial transmission. Still need to fab up a left side mount bracket for it.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3umcjo2j.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...ps14bggjgs.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...psbzgaaltp.jpg

Thanks for looking!:D:D

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Cool looking build. Im loving the walking beam set up. that will be a beast with all that articulation. I have been tinkering with a set up like that for my next truck.
I did notice the plastic driveshafts. Just a word of caution. My mack 6 wheeler twisted one of them up on the 1st day I installed it. I had to put metal ones in if I wanted to haul loads with it. same with my cab over freight truck. if i pulled my flat bed it would twist it as well. I keep them for mock ups and then purchase metal shafts for use and abuse.

keep the pics coming

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Nice!

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Thanks Lmack, it's good to hear your back and might make the spring meet! The front driveshaft is an Axial crawler shaft out of the spare parts box (read free/payed for:D) I'm going to modify and use another one for the inter axle shaft since they aren't good for anything else right now. The main will be custom out of Traxxas shafts with steel ends/crosses which is what I've been running in my tri-axle without a problem yet:o. I've been shopping steel and I figure about 150.00 shipped, I'm guessing I'll need them eventually but free works for now:)
I am curious exactly where yours failed though.

Thanks Izzy!

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Rear suspension update, It's done :bounce: !! Ok so it needs adjusted, tested, painted etc. but at least the fabrcation is done and it appears to work as planned.:D

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...psdac2sq8v.jpg

Rear suspension centerline crossmember

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...psoqf7cxma.jpg
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Final assembly shots

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Drive shafts next. Then I'll power it up and make sure it runs the way I want it too and then work on the bed mechanism.

Thanks for looking!:)

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Nice brass work. Consistent clean bends - nice!

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Q - who's drive shafts you have up front?

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It's out of an axial crawler and pretty much stretched to its limit, I couldn't get it to come apart flexing the suspension but it only has about 1/2 to 3/4 inch penetration. I used it primarily to set the transfer case location.

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Got the driveshafts done, I need to shorten the inter-axle shaft up a hair. Should be able to power it up this weekend.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...psuphffsm3.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...psmga99c9z.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...psurbdstpa.jpg

Thanks for looking!

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wow loving the walking beam set up. and the brass tube for the driveshafts!

I had tried the RC4WD plastic driveshafts that look just like the Steel versions. They would twist the star "tube" to the point that the U joints would then slip out. Granted this was with a truck pulling a full load of sand and going over some real harsh ground. On the other hand even my on road Cab over mack twisted a shaft pulling my flat bed when I was backing down a steep hill and then tried to move forward. IMO the RC4WD shafts are only good for trucks that dont get dirty or pull any sort of weight around.

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How much does the inter axles drive shaft move in and out? I always have trouble with this shaft popping out because of how short it is and how much articulation I try to get out of the stock Tamiya suspension?

I was thinking about making a walking beam that rubber mounts the axles to the beams and thus keeps the inter axel drive-shaft angle straight at all times. only the front shaft would move in and out of the tube to take up the length difference when traveling over bumps. I know your example is more 1:1 but I always have issues with lots of articulation and the little driveshaft. I went back to the tamiya cups and dog bones between both drive axels because they were performing better than the scale driveshafts did.

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Thanks Lmack, I got rid of the dog bone/cup set up. I don't think it'll work well off road with a lot of articulation. Here are some photos of my inter-axle shaft which is an axial crawler drive shaft cut down. The pictures show the suspension at full tilt fore and aft which on the bench is way more than it'll ever see in the field, I'd guess there is about 1/4" movement. Side to side twisting of the axles doesn't really change it much. I don't know how easy it would be to make a shaft for the stock suspension spread, mine is scale 72.5" which is the widest spread for a Hendrickson "R" model.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...pstmt47u5k.jpg

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Cool, cool, cool man!!!:D Can't believe those brass parts! Phenomenal!

-Alex

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Thank Alex! I've been having fun with it.:D

Here's some Friday and Saturday updates.

Here's a new t-case mount, I didnt like the way the first one turned out.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...pshd6ut0yo.jpg

Made a larger cab floor/radio tray.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...psnasi76py.jpg

Made the dump box frame/hinge assembly.

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http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...psc8ry5ybd.jpg

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...psewrgeid4.jpg

Thanks for looking!:D

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It's coming along nicely. Even though that articulation is too much for that drive shafts I doubt you will ever see that much need for it.

Watch you triangulation when doing your lift mechanism.

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Looks good so far . Great job on the walking beam , I would only suggest getting metal rod ends , I've broken the plastic 1's I 1st used on my IH9370 with the walking beam (hendrixson )

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Awesome job so far. I'm not up on all the various available parts so I apologize in advance for asking, but what transfer case are you using and where did you get it?

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Thanks Izzy, I agree, it will probably never see that much articulation, at least not on purpose. I took those pictures to show another member how extreme it could go with out the shafts pulling apart.
The dump mechanism will be interesting, it will be a slow process until I get comfortable with the set up.

Thanks Steve glad you like it. Ouch:o I figured these Traxxas rods and ends would cut it, guess I'll have to take it out and tear them up so I have an excuse to upgrade:D.

Hi Finster, thanks for the comment. The t-case is a transmission out of an Axial AX10 Scorpion crawler I parted out. I believe the part number is AX80009. The input shaft has to be modified to use it like this. If you shop eBay or some of the more popular RC Crawler sites, there are better alternatives out there, I just happened to have this collecting dust on a shelf and knew Travis used one in one of his builds so I gave it a shot.:)

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Thanks for the info! Oh and I forgot to mention I really like your walking beam setup. I may have to borrow your method(s) for a future build

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looking good. Maybe add some axle stops so you can control the articulation? I cut mine of the tamiya axles so I can get more but it looks like you will have plenty!

looks like your bed lift will work just fine. If I can offer a suggestion. My Piviot point on my green MACK 6 Wheeler is about even with the back of the rear tire. I had it previously further back about 10-15mm but the truck was trying to do a wheelie when dumping or with the box all the way up. you may want to check to see if your truck will stay solid on the ground with the bed fully raised. It looks like you will be fine with a heavy truck but its something to think about



Hope to see this at the spring meet!

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Help yourself Finster, I tried to make it effective yet simple. I'll have it at the spring meet whether it's done or not to at least see how the suspension works!


I cut the axle stops off and redesigned the suspension to get as much articulation as possible. I'm trying to push the envelope and breaking from the normal Tamyia set up, if it goes out and fails miserably I'll just figure out why and fix it.

I have your build thread saved in my favorites trying to study how it hooks up. I understand how it works but trying to figure the right place to put it without drilling a bunch of holes and moving it around so it doesn't get into the suspension etc. etc. is pushing me closer to building a set of dummy rails to test all the possibilities:confused::confused::rolleyes:. I will have it there but not sure if I'll have totally done.

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I can measure where I drilled the holes when I get home next week. Send me a PM on Thursday if you want the info from my truck. I think I used one of the three stock trunnions holes on the frame rail for the pivot point of the lift then just drilled one hole in the bed floor for the other end of the lift. The screw drive pushes and the lift unfolds and moves pretty quick as you have seen. I got lucky that the lift tucked I between the axles and did not interfere with suspension travel. I think you will have plenty of room to work with.

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Thanks for the offer on the dimensions Lmack, I was going to take you up on it but realized that it wouldn't help since I made my own chassis which is longer than the King Hauler and my bed is longer. I've got it mounted, still need to mount and wire the motor and test it. I think I got a little under 45 degrees on the body which isn't good but if I move it back any farther I don't think it will lift a loaded body. It's not a big deal to me I'll just change things around till I get what I want. If it works well but looks like Swiss cheese when I'm done I'll just go to the aluminum pile and grab a couple sticks and redo the rails:rolleyes::D.

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I was surprised how well it lifts a full box of sand even when the whole lift system is connected at the rear 1/3 part of the box.

I get a little over 45 deg if I recall correctly. But trial and error was how I had to set it up.

Just let me know if you want any measurements.


Trent

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Got the bed lift motor mounted. I'll try to wire it up tomorrow. Need to get some limit switches.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...ps03w5una9.jpg

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Thanks for looking!

Kent :D

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I got the dump body lift wired up and ran a quick test. Due to the way I wired the limit switches I couldn't tell whitch end was which and of course a 50/50 chance and I got it wrong, the motor tried to turn this thing inside out:jaw::mad:
But here is a quick video of it the way it's supposed to work :p:rolleyes::D

http://youtu.be/tj4BE-vGd6U

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Says the video is private?

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Try it now and let me know. I don't do a lot of videos and I didn't set it correctly:o

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Vid opened fine.
Wow. I'm anxious to see this with a load on it. The multi link plays with my head on the triangulation of the lift forces so it intrigues me.

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After the first time I seen this one online and then on LMacks truck I googled it and found that there are 1:1's just like it that use a hydraulic ram in place of the screw drive. I'm anxious as well, the box is pretty large compared to most I've seen so it will be interesting to see what happens. I'm hoping to have it far enough along so we can test it the weekend of the Franklin toy show.

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Oh we will test it whether your ready or not :bounce:

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:bounce::bounce::lol::lol::D:D

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Here's a few update pictures while getting ready for the Midwest Spring Meet next weekend May 23-24. The dump body is still drying and a new one will be made and hopefully be done by Indy along with the correct bumper.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...psux17olhf.jpg

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Here's a couple pictures and a video. The second picture shows the battle scars it received at the Midwest Spring Meet In Monticello Ill. this past weekend. It worked really well, far beyond my expectations. The battle scars are due to it being slightly top heavy when loaded and a crazy driver! We had a great time at the meet.
I'm hoping I'll have the new dump body done by Indy as the body on it was originally for a pup trailer hence no cab protector.

https://youtu.be/Y4ahTGC6YkM

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7lvl44y3.jpg

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Thanks for looking,
Kent

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Looking good Kent! :cool:

Some your battle scars come from Nate loading ya?

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Thanks Joe. :D

No battle scars from Nate, he's one of the smoothest operators I've seen ;).

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Battle scars were from Izzy and his new excavator and wheeled loader. Amazing how we all loose stick control without lots of practice. Still better than using a shovel :eek::eek:

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I didn't say a thing, in fact the battle scars I was referring to were the ones I put on it rolling it on its side a time or three, and was having fun doing it!:p:p

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I dont mind putting my trucks to work and getting them dirty.
Scars on the other hand..... I'm not so comfy with.:eek:,

The truck looks and works great Kent . Nice job, I'd love something like that in my open pit.