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Nice work Jason ..The way i see it is your making a good thing even better ..Im always looking at ways to improve or make my stuff work better ..Hey can I come over make parts in your shop too ..lol
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Keith, thanks for checking in and the nice comments. I hope it turns out to be a nice model. Thanks again.
Lou, thank you, me too. Even if this machine was in great shape id probably still have tried to rebuild it somehow....and anytime. |
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The Friday Update...
Drilling out broken screws. Threadlocker and painted screw heads always make for a great time..CAD drawing of hole pattern to assist in finding centers in the mill. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-n...9+11.30.10.jpg On to something much more cool. Piece of 1/2" flat stock. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...9+13.38.20.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9...9+15.54.45.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m...9+15.56.08.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M...9+15.57.07.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-I...9+15.59.49.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-v...9+14.40.32.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-h...16.02.18-1.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-v...9+16.31.06.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t...9+16.30.57.jpg Finally starting to look like something. Might have some free time this weekend to get the front end completed and move onto the rear half. |
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Jason, I'm enjoying this project of yours! I'm learning some new things too. I thought you were pretty talented to be making a cab with a 3D printer, but that's only a small piece of it. You're a heck of a machinist too. The new loader arms and bucket bell crank (is that what they call them?) look really nice together. I'll be checking this thread over the weekend to see what is yet to come!
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Thanks Nate, and yes you are correct. I have to be honest I had to google the bucket bell crank. :)
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Did you modify the length of the bell crank at all to compensate the added length of the arms?
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No, The difference will be in the length of the connecting rod that goes from the bell crank to the bucket. Working on that shortly.
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So after experimenting a little today working out the movements on the bucket with the 1/2" longer arms, I determined the length of the conecting rod from the bell crank to the bucket needed to be lengthened 1/2" also. This worked well through out the buckets movements except when in the full up position and bucket dumping. The center pin location on the bucket for the connecting rod was just about on the same plane as the pins for the arm attachments point on the bucket. This caused the movement of the bucket to bind when turning up from the dump position. I employed the use of the printer and mocked up a connecting rod and block to try different pin positions on the bucket as i knew i had to raise that connecting point up above the arm pins to fix the dump bind.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O...1+19.44.44.jpg New mount .400" higher center to center pin location. All up and down movements are smooth with no bind now. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x...1+19.39.14.jpg New solid connecting rod. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2...1+19.40.20.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-l...1+19.37.32.jpg Arms full up , bucket full down https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e...1+19.36.34.jpg Bucket full up https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-f...1+19.37.05.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9...1+19.35.39.jpg |
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That's some beautiful machining Jason! The new bucket bell crank mount turned out nice! Any idea what the max reach is now at? Assuming you may have mounted or measured the rims and tires, just to get an idea.
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Thanks Nate! The height difference is only about 1/2" higher. Haven't got far enough to mount the wheels again to check. Figured if needed a bit more I could get that with a quick disconnect if I make one later.
Didn't do this before but should've taken a stock measurement and weight before disassembly. Anyone reading who may have that post it please so I can compare. Thx |
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WOW! turning out killer! You are doing an awesome job with this rebuild!
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Dabears, Thanks Man!
Here are a few new pics of some progress. turned up 2 rear axle pivot bolts for the new rear lower half. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Z...3+16.32.30.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l...3+16.36.27.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k...3+16.38.29.jpg Hinges for the rear https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-D...3+16.48.00.jpg New mounts for the pump, block and reservoir. I wanted to tidy things up a little. Everything was just floating around and a tangled mess before. BEFORE https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I...0+20.47.33.jpg NOW https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-X...4+15.28.24.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9...4+15.45.44.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p...4+15.53.25.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4...4+15.28.08.jpg Starting to put on some weight. |
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nice work on the loader
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Nice work. How much more than stock do you think it weighs?
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Great job mounting the hydraulic components! I think that's a lot better then having them slide around in the belly of the machine. Looks like you'll still have plenty of room for a battery and the electronics too.
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The components did not slide around on the belly of the model, the pump & valves are in fixed locations... and more importantly, the pump is fixed at an angle so the inlet of the pump is always submerged in oil.
I see the pump was previously mounted correctly in this picture with it's kit supplied mount at a downward angle, why did you not retain that mount or something similar? https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I...0+20.47.33.jpg |
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Nate, Thank you, Yes theres plenty of room for electronics in the rear end.
Joe, Good observation. You saved me some trouble with that. The valve block and reservoir were loose and floating around when i got it. |
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Nice job! Too bad your welder died! It's exciting to watch a machine come together as fast as this one. I like the idea of updating to a newer more current model too. It will further separate yours from the original!
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Hello JDH429
Yesterday also tried pouring a plaque with Glinder but had difficulties. The best way I found was to make a hole in the side and then cut with a jigsaw. Carlos |
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Nice progress Jason. I enjoy reading about your updates and progress. I kind of figured a cab would hard to build, with the compound angles in the windshield, but you are definitely making it look easy. Must of cut the windows with a plasma?
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RCP, Thanks I was thinking the same thing. Make it a bit more unique and updated looking.
Cat, ? Nate, Thank you. Yes the Plasma isnt the most accurate by hand, but ill doctor it up later. I figured id give it a shot. I think it came out ok. A few more pics of some wheels. I love powder coating, Your putting stuff together an hour after coating them, Im happy with the way these came out. This is my favorite part of restoration... Assembling brand new parts :D https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8...7+12.48.53.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-m...7+13.22.06.jpg The color isnt as "lemony" in the sun. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-q...7+13.11.07.jpg And still kicking around a new hubcap design. I like the one on the left i think. Not sure yet..Less holes to tap..:D It looks more like the 1:1 I think too. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J...7+13.23.47.jpg |
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Ahh, that's a tasty treat for the eyes! The powder coat parts look awesome. Of course the left hub looks better. The more bolts you use, the better, right? :D
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Hi Jason! I must say. I`m already fan of yours! You are taking this machine to the next (“next”) level. I couldn’t imagine this machine now on other hands, neither a restoration better than yours. Definitely, it`s going to be a plus machine and you are capable to surprise us on every step of this building. I believe since you are so close to the real machine and you have that it takes, you should go for the rims just like the real one. I can`t wait to see the video of it working. Once again; Congrats on your project!
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Thanks guys, I appreciate the kind words and hope to get the axles finished and put together this week. Waiting on a 2mm tap to clean the threads out of the axle housings. Shouldn't be too long, McMaster Carr is 40 min away from me and I can order something online before 9 am and get it the same morning. :)
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I have to say. Very nice work. When you are finised it will be a awsome machine to operate.
To bad the producer of this machine don`t exist no more. |
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a cab out of steel? my oh my!
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Gotta love McMaster-Carr! I'm more then 4 hours away, but I usually get everything I order the next afternoon.
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Just amazing work Jason.
i saw that you live in NE Ohio...i know a really good guy near You that has roads and digs dirt behind his house that might be looking for someone to move dirt with, if You are interested send me a pm and i'll get you his info. |
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Nice work! I like the wheel on the left better.
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Thank you everyone. I just wanted to say to anyone who has posted on my builds that if it seems like I have not commented much on your threads it's only because I've been so busy lately. It's been a great experience being here and meeting all of you. It seems a bit selfish to post and receive all the support and not to return the favor. I just wanted to say I appreciate all the comments and don't want to seem like a jerk for not supporting your threads.
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CDM, I tried it out of steel to see what happens. I hope I get the welder back soon. If I'm not happy with the cab I may make it out of alum instead. Thanks for checking in. Nate, great place. CDM, so your familiar with MC and what a huge place it is. Being inside there is a sight to see. Small Haul, thank you sir! Im gonna pm you about that. Thanks Rctech, thanks, me too. Think I'm gonna go with that design. |
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This is awesome :)
Glad I can follow your progress :D And also, I read thru the thread of your 3d printed cabin and that inspired me to try out this new tech :D , so a RepRap Mendelmax 1.5 it will be (I have ordered the printed plastic parts and 20/20 frame already) Looking forward to seeing more of this build! |
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Glad to help light that fire. :D Looking forward to seeing your setup when you are up and running. Thanks for watching my builds. Heres the latest on this loader. Had to make some new mounting rings for the motors as the originals are just staying on the oe front end for easy future referencing. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U...9+15.43.16.jpg Here they are mounted. I used nuts to strengthen things up even though i did tap the holes first... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a...0+14.27.25.jpg Been looking at the 1:1 counter weight and decided to take a stab at it out of steel. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-I...0+15.20.16.jpg After squaring with a fly cutter. Getting this squared up is important as theres going to be some serious material being removed. Dont want anything wiggling around in the vise. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9...1+13.18.29.jpg Weight is 3lbs. Im not sure if i should hollow some of it out. Im thinking too much weight could be excessive wear on the gear reduction?...In the dirt it shouldnt be an issue. On pavement overtime..maybe. But it will definitely keep the back end planted. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-A...2+17.33.34.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b...4+13.46.45.jpg Starting on the rear body, grinding both sides to the same dimensions. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I...4+13.51.58.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-k...4+18.08.34.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-q...4+18.05.40.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K...4+20.57.24.jpg The battery access door will be the rear upper plate with the nice contoured bend on the back. Having some trouble figuring out how to attach it neatly. Would like to hinge it but that doesnt seem to want to work well and keep the gap between the stationary plate the hinge is mounted to (the top of the body) and the hinged plate edge. The gap will be too noticeable. Maybe i need a special interior hinge...idk |
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Holy smokes Jason! That counterweight and the hood is looking awesome. Been looking forward to some updates on this for a couple weekends, and you never disappoint! Maybe instead of hinges on the hood you could use some rare earth magnets, and make the whole deal removable. I'm kind of headed that way with my KW project. I have to be able to remove the cab, to get to the battery, and I'm not going to drill holes and screw it to the base. Just bouncing the idea around.
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Very nice work man, its a pleasure to follow!
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Very nice job. So are you building a haul truck next?:D
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Azonic, thank you.
Nate that's an excellent idea. Gonna have to play around with that a little. Thank you for following the build and your help. RCP, :). Gonna finish my semi dump hopefully. Thanks! |
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