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ihbuilder 11-01-2015 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cooper (Post 133951)
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...psl3qz8qhf.png

Well I bit the bulled and found a 785d 1:50 scale model to base this build off. Pricey little buggers!! Found one for a little over one bill!! Just some size comparisons. I'm building the one in middle. Some big pieces of equipment on our planet!!! I have never been up close to anything bigger than a 777, but that was impressive. Might have to take a ride up to coal country, but don't know if any 797s are around here.

I've seen a 785 here next to a D11 but nothing bigger down here .

Supermario 11-01-2015 12:37 PM

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My buddy up north at a gold mine. The electric version of a 797

http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/...pstweow7ao.jpg

http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7frlza2p.jpg

http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/...pskudm2jqn.jpg

The biggest loader I've been around...

http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/...psjvxgb1tm.jpg

Cooper 11-01-2015 01:34 PM

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Wow!! And thanks for the mail pics Mario, once I can get accurate frame geometry and dimensions I think I'll be set for building. Not going for perfect scale but for function.

Cooper 11-02-2015 05:48 PM

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http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...pszgmv5cym.png

BOOO! It's late but happy Halloween!! Says the hairball with fangs and claws!!

http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...psct1wsvym.jpg

Got some more mold making silicone, just got done the bottom pour. No vent holes or casting holes. I am going to cut them in after silicone has set. More simple, will just use a sharpened tube to cut them.

Cooper 11-03-2015 06:32 PM

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http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5kf54rvp.jpg

The two parts, have to cut some pour/vent holes

Cooper 11-03-2015 06:38 PM

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And just to reinforce my nickname , rw is what some call me, that morphs into r dub, and then into r dumb,,

http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...psdc603x1i.jpg

I confused the resin and thought I had plenty of time to mix, degas, take my time. When I was vacuuming I thought it appeared to be getting rather stiff and then realized I just wasted $$ by taking my time. !!! Yup another part for the recycling bin!! Well a glob of something!!!

And the correct timeframe for mixing, degrading and pouring. I placed a weight on top of mold as a precaution of deforming.
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...psmjnylmg7.jpg

RCP57 11-03-2015 07:37 PM

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Since you're building a "Kitty" why didn't you use the pink for your tires also?

On a serious note, how long are we waiting to see if you are a hero or a zero with this process? Keep in mind you are already my hero as previously stated...

TRUCKMAKER 11-03-2015 07:50 PM

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I'll leave the pink kitty jokes alone! Is it soup yet? We want to see a tire!

So what is the working time on the rubber?

Cooper 11-03-2015 07:54 PM

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Well that depends on if I am willing to be a zero :). Lol!! 2-4 hours on demolding time so hopefully tonight yet. I already know I didn't add enough pigment. It is pretty concentrated and too much will weaken the resin. So I may have been on the skimpy side of black color. And I do t know about the possibility of trapped air. One thing I did find out is if air bubbles are a problem (trapped pockets) to apply a dusting of baby powder. It's just me but I learn more after I've done something. I grew up tearing things apart not putting them together. So my lack of human evolution leaves me with reading the directions after its together. Ha know when it doesn't work and ha have leftover parts wondering if they are extra or if they might actually be needed ��

Thanks reg!!! So be seeing you in August !!

Cooper 11-03-2015 07:58 PM

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And the wife got some pestering with the leftover mold rubber. Once cured it pulled out of the bucket and its squishey and stretchy and ,,,, Oh yea I guess I should leave it alone also :)

And on another side I went to Taco Bell today , great tacos today ;)

TRUCKMAKER 11-03-2015 08:03 PM

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Well if the tire thing doesn't work at least you know you got something else you can mold!

bigford 11-03-2015 08:31 PM

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i missed something why dose your wife want to play with pink silicone shapes??????

Cooper 11-03-2015 08:49 PM

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Couldn't wait, had to pull it out.

http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...psaiih7zdq.jpg
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http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...pspw6n0v4m.jpg
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...pspejig39i.jpg


And the pinch test, duro 60, wanted them to be hard enough not to roll and stay put.
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...psus7m313u.jpg

And the bad side. I have a better idea of how to eliminate the little bubbles. They are from pouring the resin into the mold. I need to pour it while slightly angled, roll a bit, the baby powder, and a freckle more experience. Second one will be better!!
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...ps639sd4fe.jpg

The color is off, more pigment. And it is shiney from some of the oil in resin and mold release. Also need to let it cure longer to guage the true hardness before I get more to make the rest.

Supermario 11-03-2015 08:55 PM

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Your my hero too R dub. :D.

Congrats on your very first Cooper tire ! :cool::p:lol: I'd call that a complete first run success!

How much does the baby weigh?

Cooper 11-03-2015 09:04 PM

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Thanks Mario!! I wish I would have gotten the color right, could have used this one!! Will make a good flatbed load for the trucks. 4 pounds per tire!!! She's gonna be a heavy off highway truck for sure. 24 pounds just in tires!!! Definately going to have to get the transmission right. Planning on using planetary gear motors hidden in the axle. Might even have to make hydraulic steering too!!

bigford 11-03-2015 09:08 PM

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its a bird its a plane its super cooper!!!!
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/...psshjt4tta.jpg

Cooper 11-03-2015 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bigford (Post 134079)
its a bird its a plane its super cooper!!!!
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/...psshjt4tta.jpg

Hahahahahahah !!! Got me to smile!!! I AM SPECIAL!! In my own way!!! Lol!!!!!!





Jacka$$!!!! Lol!!

Supermario 11-03-2015 09:18 PM

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It don't take long and the tires aren't black anyway. More of a grey tone afterawhile. :)
Hydraulic steering might not be a bad idea for this beast......so, handmade dump cylinders, soon to be steering.....your almost there! All that's left is make the worlds smallest nitrogen charged suspension cylinders!:eek::D

Something tells me the motors are gonna run the same price as the mad cat motors? :rolleyes::eek:

RCP57 11-03-2015 09:20 PM

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Wow, that's just super:bounce::bounce:! The tire looks OK too I guess.:p

Seriously, that looks fantastic for a first attempt! It's too bad the materials cost so much because I'm sure if you built a few more they would be perfect before too long. Keep up the great work!

Please note that I have refrained from commenting on certain posts....

Cooper 11-03-2015 09:22 PM

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That would be perfect , I hear it gets a tit bit nippy up there!!

Supermario 11-03-2015 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RCP57 (Post 134088)

Please note that I have refrained from commenting on certain posts....

Atta boy Reg! :lol::lol: I'd like you to stick around for awhile.

Cooper 11-03-2015 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RCP57 (Post 134088)
Wow, that's just super:bounce::bounce:! The tire looks OK too I guess.:p

Seriously, that looks fantastic for a first attempt! It's too bad the materials cost so much because I'm sure if you built a few more they would be perfect before too long. Keep up the great work!

Please note that I have refrained from commenting on certain posts....

Yeah, I see the possibility of a reprimand. Lol!!!

And yes this isn't on the cheep side. I did look at other materials but longevity won out. And went with this type. I really didn't spent much time with the part prior to making the mold. Figured equipment tire a few blemishes,,,,, I think I'm going to start working on a two piece rim and the axle next. Figure if a design change needs to happen better not make them all. I'm trying to make the weight of the truck on the axle and not on the motor shaft. Like a post of joes when he was building the adt. Any idea where to source 1 1/2 I d bearings that are not much bigger on the o.d.? And cheep?

RCP57 11-03-2015 09:34 PM

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Are you planning to run two of those planetary motors in the back ground of that one picture? I have one of them in the rear of my Tigercat(smaller motor in front) and it works pretty well. I'm running 165rpm motor with a 2.6:1 axle ratio and the speed is on the high end of usable with a nearly 8" tire. It could stand to have more power though. I would guess you will want this to be in the 30-40rpm range if you are using a direct drive so those motors would have more torque? What height are these tires again? KP used one big planetary motor in his 1/12 Kamatsu truck so two of these little guys should be close.

RCP57 11-03-2015 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermario (Post 134090)
Atta boy Reg! :lol::lol: I'd like you to stick around for awhile.

I don't want everyone to think I'm a rude boy.;)

Cooper 11-03-2015 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermario (Post 134087)
It don't take long and the tires aren't black anyway. More of a grey tone afterawhile. :)
Hydraulic steering might not be a bad idea for this beast......so, handmade dump cylinders, soon to be steering.....your almost there! All that's left is make the worlds smallest nitrogen charged suspension cylinders!:eek::D

Something tells me the motors are gonna run the same price as the mad cat motors? :rolleyes::eek:

Why not? Lol!!! And to think this was going to be a relative easy build!!!! Everyone says never underestimate yourself? I always overestimate!!! I did pick up some fairly inexpensive planetary gear head motors from servo city. 118 rpm might be a little slow. They use a 540size motor (I think) I'm basing the drive system on them. Cheep enough to possibly replace with faster. Hard part is trying to secure them and build the axle so weight of machine and payload is on axle not on 6mm motor shaft.

Cooper 11-03-2015 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RCP57 (Post 134092)
Are you planning to run two of those planetary motors in the back ground of that one picture? I have one of them in the rear of my Tigercat(smaller motor in front) and it works pretty well. I'm running 165rpm motor with a 2.6:1 axle ratio and the speed is on the high end of usable with a nearly 8" tire. It could stand to have more power though. I would guess you will want this to be in the 30-40rpm range if you are using a direct drive so those motors would have more torque? What height are these tires again? KP used one big planetary motor in his 1/12 Kamatsu truck so two of these little guys should be close.

Give me a min, I'll go look.

Cooper 11-03-2015 09:44 PM

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http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...psdybl5563.jpg
Yup these should work?

bigford 11-03-2015 09:46 PM

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that little motor for that big rig LOL!!!

Cooper 11-03-2015 09:49 PM

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Lol, picked them up for another project,
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...pscl2qvyvj.jpg
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/...psn2nfsfpe.jpg

These are what I'm planning on using. I'm planning on running them inside the axle. So two in the rear. And was also thinking of using some radio mixing to control them independently. Act as a locking axle or slip for tight turning. So you think 118 rpm at axle may be on the fast side?

Cooper 11-03-2015 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bigford (Post 134097)
that little motor for that big rig LOL!!!

Haha got ya, check your mail!!!

RCP57 11-03-2015 09:55 PM

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You want it to be able to do this right?...https://youtu.be/LtbxUR9raN0?list=PL...PKlAqXQU81-vMh This has the 165rpm planetary in the rear. Motor is almost stalled but tires are slipping on rims.

I looked but none of the videos show it's speed very well. This is with two 152rpm gutless motors driving the axles(2.6:1)... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAHZ...PKlAqXQU81-vMh

Cooper 11-03-2015 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermario (Post 134087)
It don't take long and the tires aren't black anyway. More of a grey tone afterawhile. :)
Hydraulic steering might not be a bad idea for this beast......so, handmade dump cylinders, soon to be steering.....your almost there! All that's left is make the worlds smallest nitrogen charged suspension cylinders!:eek::D

Something tells me the motors are gonna run the same price as the mad cat motors? :rolleyes::eek:

https://www.servocity.com/html/118_r...l#.VjlzPHA8KrU
$40 , Catt motors another "0" and then some:jaw:

bigford 11-03-2015 09:59 PM

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LOL!!!! wow you just wrong!!

bigford 11-03-2015 10:02 PM

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you got mail.....

RCP57 11-03-2015 10:09 PM

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Now I feel like I am missing out on the "special" pictures...:lol:

Cooper 11-03-2015 10:13 PM

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Just a fist full of joy,, go ahead mark load up reg's mailbox.

RCP57 11-03-2015 10:19 PM

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I feel like my computer might need penicillin now:eek::jaw:

bigford 11-03-2015 10:20 PM

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http://rs1152.pbsrc.com/albums/p497/...d-out.jpg~c200

the look on your face after opening a email from RW

RCP57 11-03-2015 10:27 PM

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:jaw: I think this best represents my eyes and the picture sent all in one.

Old Guy 11-03-2015 10:46 PM

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Cooper

Great tire for first try, my first one was right on then I got cocky and 2cd one was a disaster, keep it up

Earl


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