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Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
Looking great. Glad my little trick could help.
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Yup Propshaft, one of those things I would never have thought about. :)
Started on the driver's cabine. Part 1 of this group. Before screwing things together "dry fitted" some parts and noticed that the white from the cabin shows through the "teeth" at the front. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psm7nhoyjc.jpg So decided to do something about that and paint that bit black (I could have used tape like Christian - aka Newcomer_2 but not to be found here on this island). Here I had another senior moments and first time around I painted the bottom part which doesn't need it. Good thing one can's see that bit once everything that needs bolting on is bolted on. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psvg7z5w7s.jpg Here the first step of this group. (getting that blue plastic film of the plastic was about the most difficult and tedious thing of this part of the build) I got a bit of black speckles from the spray paint on the back. No biggie as the back of this part will not be visible. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pskaa2g0ag.jpg The plastic and the little black cover are put in place. The headlight will bend the plastic in place. A bit tricky to do. The little hole in the plastic is in case one wants to install the headlight protection grid. The bolt for that needs to go in that place. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pscconddjn.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psvhwqjytp.jpg Next up the LED boards which are held in place by the steps. (in photo supposed to be 3 self tapping screws instead of 2) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pss85v8v5u.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psnvsx76qq.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7wiyzzqv.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psrjj0tjwl.jpg Tread "rubber" glued in place. Manual says to use 2 component stuff, but used crazy glue. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pshhhvrzt9.jpg Now the lower step and the metal bits that are part of the upgrade for the AROCS Cab. Needed because otherwise too easy to bend/loose the lower step if one goes off-road with the truck. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pswkwibnya.jpg Here one can attach the on/off switch. the 2 openings are to line up with the bigger holes and is where this assembly bolts to the chassis. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psqorubwkc.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psrcu3eawp.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pszvqorzti.jpg |
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Part 2
Finishing off the front of the bumper. The square nuts are where the bolts go that attach this part to the chassis. There is an indent in which they fit very tightly. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psx9siwsc4.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psyocdrclq.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psnnx7ootu.jpg Bottom part of the bumper. Same as above. The square nuts from the bolts holding this assembly to the chassis fit in an indent. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psszt4vwww.jpg The thin bar gets glued with four drops of glue in the small openings provided. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psjjntbnhj.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psf8dmpnqv.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1xntcb4y.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pssxqkjv6r.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psd9mp34uc.jpg Next part should be the doors if I follow the manual. |
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Did not get around to the doors. Decided to install the fender parts first. Seemed like a simple job. Remove wheel and bolt on.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pso0023gbt.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1lkofcjb.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psjd86jvbl.jpg Didn't like the inside to be so white, so painted it black. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psrymcx5q9.jpg So I needed to use black bolts instead of the stainless screws. I only have those in M2x10, so cut 6 of them down to size and filed the cut mark http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9q9spj8e.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psicvtxowk.jpg Easier to write about than to do it. Mighty tight in there and the axle is in the way for access to the bottom 2 nuts on this left side. Well, if the left side was mildly enervating, the right side was close to frustrating. Barely room to fit the nut. So only picture of the thing installed. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psa8whvhgf.jpg If I ever get around to building another one of these, I will install these two bits before I even touch the axles. Then "just" attach the bumper to the frame. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psw26gvwp0.jpg Tight ... but it fitted. One just has to fiddle to line all the parts up. There's not a mm to spare - especially on the bottom. One has to admire ScaleART for the tightness of their designs and the close tolerances of the parts. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pszioabd2d.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psbwu5k7uz.jpg A channel to run the wires is foreseen in the bumper. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psgfxmnbeo.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1xudf8w4.jpg |
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Love the progress and the project regards Jake
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My oh my and I thought a Tamiya truck had too many nuts and bolts but these Scale art trucks win the nuts and bolt gold medal every time, Nice work on the build so far. can't wait to see it built and painted
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Hi Jake, Thank you! Glad you like it. :)
Hi Brel, one of the reasons I ended up buying this kit was the amount of bits and pieces. For me the more the merrier. As for color ... I couldn't make up my mind when I placed the order, ScaleART emailed a bunch of photos of the cabin in different colours. I thought white suited best. The container will be in bleu though. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Doors ... Part 1 ScaleArt give the option to go for the extended door or the short one. I decided for the short one. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pse5jibj7f.jpg What you get (the screws put in by ScaleART to prevent paint clogging up the threads are still in place) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pscruxosd3.jpg Before I continued I made an indication of the window rubber with a black felt tip stift. This breaks up the "whiteness" a bit. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psnu4yeoqz.jpg All the parts. (forgot one self tapping screw in the picture) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psra32yz2k.jpg Here how it is supposed to fit together. First the metal parts that will be the door hinges/support. In the package there are 4 thick rods and 2 thin ones. Of the 4 thick ones 2 are a bit shorter than the other. Those go toward the front of the door. They are shorter to clear the plastic of the window. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psg0kiwhbo.jpg Metal plate to hold hinge/support to the door. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psxwop3yyz.jpg Optional carpet http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8gvx5gh5.jpg Door panel (will be screwed down with 2 short and one longer screw) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psq7hxsn0q.jpg Before we screw all this together, after peeling the film of the plastic of the window, we have to attach the mirror support with a self tapping screw. This holds the window in place at the same time. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psdwunjxiz.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pstbb8evlg.jpg Finished and screws blackened with a Sharpie (door handle outside is glued in place) - The Magnet at the bottom of the door is supposed to glue into place, but I had to firsts clear the paint out of the provided spot with a 4mm drill, tried a dry fit, it clipped place and couldn't get it out again. So not glued. The other door same story. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psezrgra00.jpg |
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Doors - Part 2
Not really the doors, more the sides of the cab. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psioqg6lxo.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pshmnlyiia.jpg The black plastic strip is fastened with 3 self tapping screws http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psnythyajt.jpg Next we screw in the galvanised iron screw that the magnet will stick too. (I cut that one in half, half way thru screwing it in it became pretty hard to do, and worried my screwdriver might slip out of the slit resulting in a big scratch ... http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psvl6nw3cp.jpg Next the fender/step part of the cabin. Held in place with one regular M3 screw and 2 self tapping ones. The indicator lights i painted orange yesterday and trimmed and fitted them already. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psoa1blbtj.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psaabslzxs.jpg Both sides finished, the right side has the extension on the black plastic for the dead angle mirror. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9fd7fcst.jpg Next step will be the front of the cabin that will hold these two bits together. |
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Oh dear, today was the "comedy of errors"
No clue what happened. Must be getting old. Next step, as said, the front of the cab. All the parts needed. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5svvvpkk.jpg Reverse of main pieces http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psmturhpir.jpg First I started with inserting the pins into the holders. These are the pins that go into the front locking mechanisme on the frame. (you can see the grooves at the top where they flare out a bit) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pss4lmob5s.jpg I could barely push them in the holes, so had to run a 2mm drill through them. Then needed a rather heavy hammer to drive them home. Next i installed the black metal piece and the speaker. So far so good. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psqdb15fvj.jpg Prepped the 2 stainless steel parts for installation and installed it. (forgot to take picture) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psu2w34gbw.jpg Turned over the part and put the 2 separate black plastic grill bits in place. They will be held down with the next part. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4erbs7lc.jpg The outside part of the grill goes on top. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pscxn04xgb.jpg And gets screwed in with 2 self tapping screws from the back on the far left/right side of the black plate holding the speaker. The 2 previously installed stainless parts I had put on the wrong side of ledge they screw on too - and to think I checked a couple of times to make sure :confused: :roll eyes: I only noticed this when I tried to fit it to the locking mechanism. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7wcreyur.jpg Supposed to look like this ... http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psczbqclzw.jpg Next I wanted to attach the back of the Mercedes Star ... it screws in from the back ... so had to remove the speaker for access http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pslvacnwcd.jpg Also almost used the wrong kind of screw ... Needs to be a regular countersunk one. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psez4rnlnp.jpg Installed http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psesk4kdza.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psveusnybj.jpg After sorting the stainless supports, test fitted on the front lock http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1kydguok.jpg And tilt works fine too http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psjnnuoyun.jpg In the above picture you can see the holes that will be used to attach the sides of the cabs. The hexagonal shaped ones will hold the nuts and the middle one is for the little wind guide on the side. |
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Now bolting the sides to the front
The two M3 Allen bolts go through from the inside to the nut on the outside. The whole thing is neatly designed. However ... http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psc5hh7luy.jpg The door has a rather big gap ... Reason is why I have the red circle above. The casting is too rough at the hinges. Will need to be filed down. Apparently this is because this is one of the first batch of Arocs made. The later ones do not have this problem. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pshlxnlsob.jpg The other side same problem http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psejq5cwqz.jpg Didn't yet sort it out. Just bolted it up as it was. Will sort it out tomorrow. Both sides installed http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psvlquzyhd.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8330meh5.jpg And a quick fit on the frame to get an idea. (Cab leans too far back because it's not properly supported yet) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psie0zsrku.jpg So I guess tomorrow I will be filing away at the door frames |
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Looking fantastic. Some epic engineering on his rig. Shows you where your money is going.
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While the truck does look outstanding and does have some great engineering in it, it should not have all of the design flaws in it for what you pay for the kit. Even for an early production kit, there have been too many small errors to correct for the cost. I know that I would have been pulling my hair out long ago over the many errors that have been corrected in just the chassis and now to find more in the body. This is not acceptable in my eyes.
I am not ripping the truck as it does look great, just the many overlooked design flaws which Scaleart should have addressed before marketing the truck. |
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Hi Prop, yup, bolting this thing together I keep being impressed by the way things fit together, holes line up etc etc. Someone spend a lot of time thinking about this. When I put the front bumper on the frame I was expecting some problems because you got a lot of parts and assemblies coming together there. The only "problem" was finding the access for the Allen key.
Which brings me to tc1cat's comment ... Yes, the kit is expensive, but I do feel I have gotten value for the money. I have no idea which design flaws caught your attention. I didn't notice any. There were 4 missing hydraulic parts, a couple of wrong sized screws (easily replaced), one ball joint with a wrong thread, missing insulator on rear lights and the sliding hook part of the hydraulic mechanism that turned out to be a bit of rough machining (easily sorted). The missing parts were send out after an email. If I had found the balljoint with the wrong thread and the missing insulators at the same time, they would have included those too. So no problems there. Follow up is fantastic. The raised exhaust not fitting well. Considering this variation is sold without exhaust, it was upon me to sort it out. The raised exhaust is not meant for this model, so can't blame them for it not fitting. For the rest, everything went together as it flawlessly. Some of it required a bit more thinking than others, but most of that was because I didn't strictly follow their guidelines or misinterpreted the technical drawings. Most if not all of the mistakes in this thread are caused by my own inattention or simple stupidity like mounting the supports for the locking mechanism on the wrong side or putting things in the wrong order. The rough casting where the door hinge fits I sorted just now in about 10 minutes. Not a deal breaker for me. Neither is having to run a 2mm drill through a hole to make life easier, shortening a screw a tad or remove some paint to make something fit. All I can say is that 99.99% of the parts fit perfectly and the 0.01% is an easy fix. Just looking at the workmanship and engineering of the parts is a pleasure. Would I buy one again (given enough disposable money)? No question about it. This kit is an absolute pleasure to assemble. Now off to locate my soldering stuff ... next step is the roof and for that I need some wiring sorted out. Will post the pics of the fitting of the doors in the next update. Cheers. |
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Stephan,
Design flaws are anything that does not fit correctly the FIRST time. Not after you modify a part or screw to get things to fit. This is something that most of us expect with a Tamiya kit due to their use of plastic parts which are known to bend during production. The needed filing of the door hinge slots is the last one you showed us. Lack of fore thought on Scalearts part to allow for paint/powdercoat thickness is a design flaw to me. Having to modify a bolt head to get a part in place is a design flaw. You have had to do this more than once if I remember correctly. You saying that most of the little things that you had to fix are not deal breakers is fine BUT you should not have to do this in a Scaleart vehicle. Scalearts attention to detail should make for a kit that goes together flawlessly. Their use of longer than necessary bolts that you need to shorten during assembly is a cost saver for them which should not be necessary for a kit of this expense. Even the most inexpensive Tamiya kit uses correct length screws and bolts. While I haven't looked at the frame rails in your latest pics, they looked like someone's test rails from 2 or 3 trucks with all of the holes in them. Hopefully, these holes have all been used by now. If not, this is a flaw for me plus it weakens the frame if not used. I know that you mentioned that these rails are used for several different trucks but give me a break. Extra holes are still unacceptable in a frame unless you remove a part from a stock frame rail. Please remember that this in my opinion and not someone elses. With all of this said- would I get a Scaleart vehicle--- YES!!! But probably not as a kit unless it was the only way to get it. Their attention to detail would be the reason. Have to win the lottery though to be able to purchase one :D:D |
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Concidering kits like this and Capo are 10 times more intricate then your standard rc kits. The amount of deficiencies are on par. If a standard kit takes 100 steps to build and you find one problem, no one says anything. A 1000 steps for something like this and you find 10 small issues and people seem to only see the bad. Or think that for something that costs so much it should be perfect. It all seems pretty relative to me though. **** ive built most of RC4WD's offerings for instance. And the problems with their models well exceed any ive encountered building Capo's. Given the choice to have 4 or 5 run of the mill scalers from the mainstream manufacturers, or just one super scale offering from Capo or Scaleart, or Afv or whoever. I'll go with the super scale offering every time.
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Hi tc1cat, well if you want to see it that way ... About the screws I trimmed down. The ones from the under run protection can be installed without trimming. But that means you have to paint the little parts separately. Easier to grind a bit of the screws. The other one, where I had some trouble with the transfer case, well, shouldn't have moved the support of the oil tank one opening over so its fastener came in te way.
Allowing paint thickness? Considering the size of the parts and the fact that it is a human doing the painting, would be asking a bit much I think. The openings in the frame ... yeah, actually to be true to scale, they need even more of those. Might not be like that with US trucks, but EU trucks all have lots of holes in their frames. Have a look at the Mercedes-Benz UK website. And the screws that need shortening ... there are probably more screws in the frame than in your run of the mill kit. Why add another €100 to an already pricey kit if all it takes is 15 minutes to shorten them. We can keep arguing about this till the cows come home. :) Cheers! Stephan |
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Didn't get much done today ... soldering is not my strong point.
Since I was doing it, did the 2 LEDs for the indicators as well as the position lights which will go in the roof of the cabine. They supply ample wiring and shrink tubing http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psly1qba2o.jpg The resistors are not needed because I use ScaleART's bus system. Finished product: http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psvxujolls.jpg After this I painted the outside of the white LEDs black so only the tip has the light come through. (A tip from Christian - aka Newcomer_2). Then couldn't continue with the roof because I had to wait for the paint to dry. Didn't take pics during soldering. basically, solder red wire to long + of LED. 2 mm shrink tube, then solder black one to the short - of LED, 3mm shrink tubing to go over both, followed by 6mm shrink tubing over the LED. The indicators get a yellow and grey wire instead of a black one so you can keep them apart. Here the pics of the doors after the filing (as luck would have it, I have a file of exactly the right width): http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps949kyewc.jpg While I had it all apart some pics of how it fits together. This is really thought out. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psil14hifq.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pspdcgw9dp.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pskbkzbecm.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pspjan8w68.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psslrk3upj.jpg Next up the roof and the sun vizor ... |
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nice updates you do, didn't think it was that long ago i took a look last, but **** there has happened a lot, keep up the good work!
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I can't even imagine how much this kit costs,, don't get me wrong,, its pretty amazing looking but , wow
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Hi Roundabout ... When I started on this I figured to bolt some things together on and off over the weekend for the next year or so, but turns out I keep putting things off to make time for this kit. Guess I spend about 2 - 3 hours every "session". Kind of addictive this thing ... actually been eying the bank account to see if I could swing another kit ... scary ...
1strodeo, nope not cheap, price is somewhere on page 2, post #36. But must say, worth every penny (or is that Eurocent). Just looking at the details and finish of the parts makes it worthwhile. |
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Wow,, that is up there, ,but it really is a beutiful kit,, and super detailed.. I can see how it could be addictive.. But really isnt everything in this hobby. Good luck with it, can't wait to see the finished product.
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Hi 1strodeo, kind of can't wait myself to see it finished. But I don't want to rush it either.
++++++++++++++++ This part is the roof and the visor. This also includes the sound module that gets attached to the roof. This is still with the SMX one, If you check the ScaleART on-line shop, the trucks being sold now are with the smaller SM7. Maybe that one can go under the cabin. The usual picture of all the necessary bits (excluding the screws) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pskqku0esd.jpg First I put the roof lights in. (This being an early production cabine, I had to enlarge the holes to fit the LEDs from 2mm to 3.5mm) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psbnejisiv.jpg Then remove the lens from the mold (or whatever it is called) and test fitted. The visor opening needed to be filed a bit at an angle. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pszrlufxhr.jpg Having done this at both sides (hardly visible) time to attach the visor to its support. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psud50tjla.jpg Easiest is to start with the 2 in the middle and then do the ones at the corner. (the size of the nuts/screws make this one of those colourful language moments :rolleyes: ) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psgvzhnddh.jpg Shorten the screws and then tighten the nuts with the 2.5mm driver http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psioawmjjr.jpg Mixed some 2 component glue to fix the lenses for the LEDs http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psijijepxv.jpg Applied with one of those dental tools with the fluffy bit cut off. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psw4cnfgzk.jpg Whilst waiting for the glue to set, continue with the rest of this assembly The roof hatch and its fastener. This is partly L shaped so the sound module can not shove forwards. Gets screwed together with 2 self tapping countersunk screws. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pswonbxbba.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psrkyjkjnx.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pslmwm41bl.jpg Followed by the sound module ... can't make up my mind how to install it ... http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psocfvzmlw.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pstaecjolr.jpg Can go in both ways ... will have a look see at the paperwork that came with the electrical package to see how and where all those cables end up. And I better find a way to organise them a bit too. As for the visor ... the glue might be fast after 20 minutes, but it will take 72 hours for it to really set ... Bummer ... figure I better wait, I tried fitting it, but even after one hour the LED still succeeded in pushing the lens a bit out. And yes, I filed the sharp ends of those screws. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psx2rqwj4m.jpg Guess I will pass the time with sorting wiring, prepping back of cabin and starting on the seats and other interior parts. Till next posting Stephan |
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Hi Stephan,
this is really a fantastic building report! - The cables of the sound module beneath the roof you can organize for example in this way: Attachment 5229 Attachment 5230 I'm looking forward to your next update and stay tuned. :) |
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Ohhh ... I can´t see my uploaded pictures! ... Hmmm?!? ... I'm probably doing something wrong.
You also can have a look on my Facebook-Site. There you'll find a photo album which shows the assembly of the AROCS driver´s cab. You might find some pictures concerning the cables. Link to the photo album: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...4207815&type=3 |
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Hi Christian, thanks for the link! Will be a great help now and further in the build. Now I can double check my interpretation of the technical drawings.
Looks like a good thing I finally found a place that sells shrink tubing in different sizes here on the island. Cheers, Stephan |
Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
Today, I started off with the SMX Sound Module ...
Took it off the roof again and had a good look at it. Turns out the bit under the cooling plate is basically empty with the plate seemingly just sitting on one chip. I figured it made more sense then to install it with the heavier parts towards the roof. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psezh509df.jpg I also took off the shrink tubing I had put on yesterday. I had tested a couple of times, but unlike Christian (Newcomer_2) I could not get the wires with the shrink tubing to go through the cable channel provided. I guess the "Made in China" tubing available here is thicker and less flexible. So ended up bundling the wires with bits of shrink tubing. The top wire bundle is power and speaker, the middle single one is Function 3 which is not used according to the electrical plan, and the bottom bundle are the rest of the wires. (hookup esc etc) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psrrwxfh4u.jpg So I tried to program it as in the Servonaut Manual ... I left the bottom bridge on the pins for the in-line 6 cylinder engine (checked MB website, and Arocs have an in-line 6 power plant), and took out the top pin to start the programming. (wanted to turn off the peep-peep when going backwards - can't stand that sound) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pssym8rfdh.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psauou9fxf.jpg Didn't cut off the cable for Function 3, just tucked it under the unit in the space left there by the roof hatch. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psnnynryvj.jpg Roof goes on with 4 M3x8 screws and some lock washers. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pswn4ckflh.jpg Then the back goes on. The little pins go in the holes provided. The wires get tucked into what will become the wiring channel. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pswercj0xv.jpg The reason I had to take of the shrink tubing is that I couldn't get a decent bend near the roof. This way it was easier to control. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pst10m2loo.jpg Back bolts onto the roof with 2 m3x6 and 1 M3x8 (in the middle). It bolts to each side with 2 M2x8. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psh7yucuju.jpg The m2x8 go into these provided slots on the sides. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps511y8gtk.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psa9qohatq.jpg Continued ... |
Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
Tried the cabin on the chassis.
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5xvkjiwz.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pslddnokrd.jpg Tested the locking mechanism http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psg1wzw07r.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psnjyj4aoa.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1vrypnu4.jpg Now time for the air intake to be put on. (takes 4 M2.2x6 self tapping screws). 2 in the roof and 2 in the back. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psd8ijgnaz.jpg Alerted by the pictures in the link Christian provided, I knew there would be a problem with the locking mechanism interfering with the intake. So only temporary screwed on with 2 screws. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pschq1s5vx.jpg So a bit of plastic had to go. (the cut will be cleaned up) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psgdjemkqj.jpg Now proper install of the intake. Found that it was easiest to first do the top part. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1s5oio2y.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pseteh8rm1.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psgysaga0l.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pskm0vh3tt.jpg Next up would be the interior of the cabin. |
Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
On with the next group.
We start of with the windscreen. This could not be installed earlier otherwise wouldn't be able to attach the intake. Consists of a window, front cover and 3 self tapping screws http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psbd5rpe2z.jpg The window needs to be bend a bit to get behind the sides. Also need to be aware of good positioning at the roof. I got mine stuck wrong on one of the screws of the visor. And I got some paint damage in the lower corner form not paying attention when bending/inserting it. Lucky the black cover goes over it. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psjlee90tl.jpg Gets all fastened on the inside. Access through the bottom. Was very happy with the bendable extension I have. Was worried the screwdriver would jump and scratch the plastic. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psm6nm6gvy.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psz1vnuca8.jpg Next the floor parts. Assembled with countersunk screws. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psjnxuu0xi.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psjmhusddq.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psqvjfo1os.jpg No way I can glue the optional carpet on when installed in cabin ... http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psnzyjzmqy.jpg So attach the needed screws. Already complicated enough getting the "carpet" on straight without having to deal with screws all over the place. (Carpet can be repositioned if not right first time around) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psltn66eo9.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psxw1waqij.jpg Both side pieces attached first, and the center piece goes in from below. Had to loosen the nuts from the side pieces to make it easier to get the center bit in place. Very tight tolerances. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psrdhdpybi.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psmffn9k4q.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pshgbep5ui.jpg Continued ... |
Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
Now have to do the back ledge of the interior.
For this we first need to attach the circuit board for the wiring in the cabin. This will make it possible to remove the cabine with only one plug to disconnect. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pshiayee9g.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pseapk39gw.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psotckbpym.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pss2v4rdtv.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1pzpqts7.jpg However ... connecting all those cables with the board attached will be a pain. So removed it for the duration. It can be attached again later. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pseccscpbj.jpg The backboard goes in through the doors and I was surprised how easy it slipped in place. Had expected worse. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pstfvzlpqr.jpg It screws in from the bottom. The hole in the plate is threaded. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...sc6aovn9b.jpeg The manual specs M2x6 ... however this makes the screw poke into the cabin with a mm or 2. Replaced those screws with M2x4s left over for another group. Perfectly flush now. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psxcg01zrg.jpg Noticed I had forgotten the seat bases. Supposed to be bolted on before installing the floor. Still easily done good access from below. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psdzjqgszg.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pstphde7rx.jpg Next up the seats and dashboard or maybe I do the cabling first ... (so not looking forward to that bit) Cheers Stephhan |
Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
No point postponing jobs you don't like ... since nothing much going on today, bit the bullet and messed with the electrics of the cabin.
Sod's luck of course ... the bleeding power cables of the SMX are ½ inch too short ... http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psbz7yanev.jpg Inserted the LED for the indicators and attached them with a blob of hot glue. Kind of regret it, I made an error and when removing the glue, part of the paint came with it. (right side). Well one can't see it, and thinking of painting the underside of the fender black anyway like in real life, so no big loss. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psnlk686qz.jpg Globbed some liquid tape on the back of the circuit board. Not really needed, but better safe than sorry with electricals. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psc8ulqeoh.jpg Inserted the 2 plugs and the Function 4 cable of the SMX plug. Since the speaker stays in the cab, I could actually just have soldered the wires together instead of making this convoluted connection. :rolleyes: oh well ... The speaker cables from the SMX were too thick to go into the provided holes. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pslvx0akwm.jpg Rummaged through the bits and pieces one accumulates and found a female JST (?) plug that fitted the power of the SMX Module. Came with one of my chargers, but never used it. Also fitted the Universal Bus thing to the circuit board. I could have run that one separately to the bus connectors in the lower level, but then one extra plug to undo. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psccblmocm.jpg Bolt the circuit board in place, which went easier than I expected. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps05cezuto.jpg And now to deal with the KingBus system. The wires need be coated in some solder to make them stiffer, and then you can push them in the round hole where they clip in. To release them put a thin screwdriver in the rectangular slot and push down. (I didn't know this) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psch8eppti.jpg All good an well for the single or double cables, but the 4 positive ones ... so I soldered them together and filed them to a reasonably small pin. (sorry shoddy pic but you get the idea) I know there are probably connectors in which you put the cables etc etc ... Wish I knew how they were called and where to get them. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psx7nb7oxe.jpg All the cables inserted in the module http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psnqedo6in.jpg Module glued to the side of the cabine with the provided double sided tape. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psbvihsdkb.jpg And a view of the mess ... left all cables long enough so I can be redone if needed. Thinking of cutting some foam to hide it from sight. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6to08jsx.jpg So all in all this little exercise kept me busy for 3 hours + ... and I don't know if it is correct until I sort out the rest of the electric. Cheers! Stephan |
Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
Thank you for posting all the pictures of the build. It must have taken as much time to do as it did to build the kit.
Ken O |
Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
Hi Ken, taking the pictures doesn't take that much time at all. Just a cheap autofocus camera that is not too good at close-ups. My other one was better but that one became unreliable and started losing pics. This is the third build where I take pics, has become part of the process.
Getting the nuts on some of those screws takes way more time. :) Anyway, glad you like it! Best regards! Stephan |
Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
Finishing of the cabine - Part 1
Started with the seats Left the passenger seat and right the driver's seat. Neatly packaged and best not opened together and parts mixed as there is a definite left and right seat. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psbqp9q8xz.jpg Started with passenger seat http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psodcmhhzc.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psxz1bb2d4.jpg These parts supposed to be glued together with super glue, but after I test fitted them they were solid as can be. So left them as they were. If I ever find the right material I can then make a miniature safety belt like the guys in Germany do. :) http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psokscmuiq.jpg Screws on to base http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psxlxxptrt.jpg Seat cushion next http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pskbxirxsa.jpg Bolts on from below with the same self tapping screws (one you do not see because I used one of my black ones. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pswy5ethxp.jpg Passenger seat right side http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pskgrbrxry.jpg Left side http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6kwuspd2.jpg Both finished http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psxlfn5keh.jpg Next steering wheel and steering column The covers get glued on with super glue. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psy9k0x5yo.jpg Make sure the square nut is well seated. In this picture it is not right. sits too high and then the cover doesn't fit. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psbxsdsjun.jpg Sticker of instruments stuck to the provided piece of plastic http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2ps1zy2i.jpg The steering column attached to the driver's side dash with 2 M2x10 http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psrtdlm1qa.jpg Top of the dashboard and passenger's side. The little part is painted in silver by me. Only part I put some paint on. Don't trust myself to paint the little buttons etc. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psagpnshkv.jpg |
Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
Part 2
Other side http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psrkvwgfqz.jpg Prepping to put the parts together http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pstd07kpjj.jpg Here missed some pics - got distracted by the cats who caught some critter and let it loose in the house. Missing step is screwing the lower part of the dashboard on. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psvp6v8wse.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psmhqjvlmr.jpg Prep the whole console for installation in the cabin. Gets attached with 2 M3x6. Lazy and just took the ones that were used for painting. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psoyqvvyga.jpg Installed. The left one had to be removed otherwise can not get the console in place. Getting that one screw in is about the most difficult part of this whole job. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5tc2auia.jpg Now the seats go in. Also install screws before inserting in cab. Slots are provided for that in the base http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0loarylf.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pslumgmqjw.jpg Next is the mirrors and other miscellaneous bits. I didn't take pictures here because it all gets glued together with super glue. Don't like working with it as it sets fast and you can't afford mistakes. Not a difficult job really. Here is picture of the page in the manual http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...pscdgs8vsm.jpg Part of the mirrors were labeled wrong. The bigger part of the main mirror needs swapping L en R. Pic is of the left mirror. The mirrors can be adjusted. http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psrqddw4e9.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psquscrcl4.jpg http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/...psrlldypmf.jpg That's the driver's cabin done with. Now back to the more interesting bits which is finishing the hydraulics. Probably start on that later in the week. |
Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
Looking good!
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Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
Nice colors :)
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Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
looks great as a rolling chassis without the roll on/off equipment fitted
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Re: Scaleart - assembling an Arocs 8x8 roll on roll off kipper
Amazing build so many screws :jaw:
keep up the great work |
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