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doodlebug 06-24-2012 11:42 PM

Re: Volvo G990 Grader
 
I see problem's with the quality of there sand, I see gas problem's, and I don't think they understand how to vent the mold properly! They need to pay attention to what temperature they pour at.
Yes, I understand your frustration!

Cheer's, Neil.

Stefan 06-30-2012 07:55 AM

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I´ve found another foundry to entrust with the next, much beefier part(s). Hope they´ll do better.

In the meantime I´ve started making cylinders. They come in two rather small sizes, namely 10 and 13 mm inside dia., respectively.

This is my CAD drawing of the the circle turn cylinder. The piston rod is a mere 4 mm in diameter, even in 1/8. The cylinder piston is the 10 mm one. The stroke is 39 mm.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...lNyVHRoeDk3Z2s

This is, obviously :D, the real one:
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...zBPS2VBWFhaZGM

The tubes here are just pre-cut.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...TFQdExtZ0t5b0k

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...lFKa25rc05SM0E

The cylinder heads are at a 14.4 and 17.4 mm outside diameter, respectively.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...HlGbHB2TFJKcm8

Stefan

Madda 06-30-2012 08:01 AM

Re: Volvo G990 Grader
 
What is that green part next to the O-ring in your Cad drawing?

Great build, always gives me so much ideas and inspiraion! Keep posting!

Stefan 06-30-2012 09:29 AM

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Thanks Madda! The green part is supposed to symbolize a wiper and support for the O-ring.

Stefan

JAMMER 06-30-2012 09:49 AM

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That is some very nice machining on those caps, Ed

Madda 06-30-2012 10:29 AM

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Wiper, okay, what is the material you use to make this?

tc1cat 06-30-2012 11:53 AM

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That is some outstanding machining!! What are you using to be able to thread that close to the bottom of the caps??

Stefan 06-30-2012 12:38 PM

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Thanks! Well, I too thought that would be a problem, but luckily I found out there are tools like this:

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...mVUWG15cjhnWjg

Stefan 06-30-2012 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Madda (Post 59599)
Wiper, okay, what is the material you use to make this?

For the wiper I expect some experimentation to be necessary (since plastic kind of yields to the cutting tool). I´ll start with PTFE and hope that I can somehow produce a working wiping lip.

Trackerman 06-30-2012 07:01 PM

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Stefan,
when you make up the wipers for the cylinders can you provide photos and description of how you make them as well as what material you use apart from the PTFE please. Learning a lot from builds like yours and appreciate any detailed information that helps to make the parts in the home workshop.

Cheers

Paul

Stefan 07-01-2012 01:39 PM

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Paul,
Sure! When I know what works I´ll show you.

Stefan

ihbuilder 07-01-2012 01:48 PM

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OK , now where did you find that id threading bar ? been looking forever :eek: OTOH , the grader is coming along nicely :eek:

dabears 07-01-2012 02:16 PM

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Your cylinders are off to a great start!! You have some major talent with those machines

Stefan 07-02-2012 01:10 AM

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@Steve: The threading bar is a SIR S16x07 M08 from AKKO. Needs a minimum 11 mm id hole. They also sell on eBay (Germany). The insert is a 08 IR 0,5 ISO BMA from www.bachgmbh.de.

Another german supplier (they don't seem to have any englich page, am sorry) sell threading bars for holes down to 6.2 mm (1/4").

Stefan

Trackerman 07-03-2012 06:11 AM

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Stefan,
thankyou for the reply I look forward to following the rest of your build.

Cheers

Paul

Espeefan 07-03-2012 11:22 AM

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Wow, the attention to detail! Incredible. You are very talented. It's just amazing to me, to see this project, and others like it, come together.

Stefan 07-07-2012 06:24 AM

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Thanks Nathan! Despite all intentions to plan well ahead I run out of brass for the cylinders build and have to put it on hold for a while. But thanks to that I had time to prepare some pics from the circle build.

The basis is this 210 mm (over the tips) toothed wheel, which was laser cut from 6 mm (1/4") stainless. Here with an MDF fixture for centering the ring (see further down).
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...nI5bjZkTmtFZkE

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...Hg3a254T0xRcVU


Here you see the shaping of said ring from a 4 mm x 19 mm bar in a simple bending device. If you wonder what the black dots at the edge are, here´s the story: As I milled away 1 mm along the edge from a 4x20 bar I must have released some surface tension having the effect of bending the whole bar in its main plane, the milled surface being convex by about 2 mm in the middle portion :mad:. Trying to straight that out in the vice in a controlled way I imagined to be rather frustrating if not infeasible :(, but I remembered that there´s always this problem with contraction with welding. So I made all these welding spots with the TIG, starting sparsely and adding more until the bar was back to straight. I´ll tell you it was a good feeling turning that problem to my advantage and watching the bar returning to straight almost effortlessly.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...0VfZTFMQ3pEUWc

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...WlKb3NTSlBSX1E

Due to the elasticity (you see the spring back two pics above) the bending core is this small and makes an overlap necessary. I reckoned a coiling overlap to be less detrimental to the end result than a layer on layer kind of winding. In any case, it allowed the forming wheel (the ball bearings) to be closer to the core.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...2VNS3lFRnRyVEE

The ends stay straight or become bent with the wrong radius, so have to be cut away.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...0I1YklwR05rejA

Attaching the ring to the cog wheel.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...1NOT2ZBR0doOW8

Then the bearing surface was ground.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...md2ZHF5Rkd2UkU

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...XByWXFlNEc5cm8

The resulting surface compared to the raw laser cut to the right.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...HhiQTdfbzVURHM


The edge if the ring is internally reinforced by this narrower ring.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...UJlU1h3NE1YVmM

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...llLVHVtVVhnc0E

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...2FZaFBqS0VCX00

Thanks for looking.

Stefan

Finster 07-07-2012 10:13 AM

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WOW! Just wow! Amazing work on your models, I really wish I had your talent. I love the wooden bending jig too.

Stefan 07-15-2012 05:40 AM

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Glad you like it, Brian :) . The fork portion of the circle is now ready. Final fixing to the gear and ring portion to follow when I have tested the circle turning drive.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...UkyNjViLW8yY3c

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...2NkcjdpUjZ6R1E

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...1dBTlY5RGU0QTg

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...1ozRmpqNFlsY3M

Stefan

9W Monighan 07-15-2012 08:22 AM

Re: Volvo G990 Grader
 
Pretty tricky work cutting that ring to fit inside of the circle. I do that alot at my work on some of the products we build.

Stefan 07-15-2012 02:23 PM

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Can sure agree on that. I actually calculated and marked the length to cut before bending. The first cut was just a bit too long (and luckily not too short).

9W Monighan 07-15-2012 03:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 60692)
Can sure agree on that. I actually calculated and marked the length to cut before bending. The first cut was just a bit too long (and luckily not too short).

If you think on the lines of the neutral axis of the piece your cut length will come out close plus the flat material on the ends . When you bend something, the outside area is stretching and the inside area is compressing. When we bend and cut an arc we calculate the circumference of the web were we can wrap a tape ruler around and cut to size.

Stefan 07-15-2012 11:49 PM

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Yep, I meant the length of the neutral axis ;). Btw, what dimensions are we talking about in your case?

Stefan 07-22-2012 08:20 AM

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Here some "making of" pics. First the brackets for the blade tilt cylinders.

The original. Actually, I just realize I forgot to round of the outer corner :o Well, better that than rounding of something which should be well defined.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...HJLRUtYRUc2TVU

Cutting at an angle saved some material.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...VFsdm5iMTk0bTQ

Getting the top surface of the pieces parallel with the top of the jaws (having made sure the latter are at a right angle to the spindle axis).
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...Vd6b1FWcHQzYm8

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...DB4c2s4MjFWTGs

Later, same procedure but new set-up for drilling.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...UJlWUFWQmJrMWc

1.2 mm drill.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...DdPN09qQlk0azQ

Tapping M1.4. Always quite scary tapping the smaller threads in stainless 1.4301 (SAE grade 304), since this material has a strong tendency to work hardening. But I need it for its weldability.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...G0zaW9lc0s5VFk

To be continued. Thanks for looking.

Stefan

mazdaparts 07-22-2012 11:42 PM

Re: Volvo G990 Grader
 
looking good. Wish I had a thimble full of the talent displayed in these projects.

Stefan 08-01-2012 03:29 PM

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Some more circle making pics. To start with a "quick and dirty" jig for adapting the bracket base to the radius of the circle ring.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...l8wRXJNLWNkeVU

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...VdGTVNFc3BUUDA

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...29OZmlFOThQdFE

And another setup for rounding the bracket ends. The center of the bracket hole is offset by 0,5 mm from the center of the turning table.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...VJKQ3J3Y3g1R0U

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...0c1ejRwMzJ4NjA

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...XBYOF9reXB2WWc


Each bracket was provisionally fixed with two welding spots to a circle arm.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...XQzM0ZuQlNkRG8

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...lFqcDFCRmI3STA

Here the brackets have already been hard soldered and the circle arms are being connected with a 16 mm rod.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...nc3MHlHNUlVcjA

Thanks for looking.

Stefan

D8R 08-02-2012 09:18 AM

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A lot to do 1 model, here´s 2 at the same time! guess you will have spare parts for rest of life, ha ha.
dan

Stefan 08-03-2012 03:41 AM

Re: Volvo G990 Grader
 
Yeah, Dan, assuming the build itself doesn't take rest of life...

Sometimes I wonder whether making two was the wisest decision :confused: Now, having come this far, I will, and I'm still motivated to, continue not only building both models, but doing it more or less in parallel, since repeating all steps later for the second model would seem to be less efficient.

Stefan

gipicarto 08-03-2012 04:40 AM

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http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5117/yoghia.jpg

Stefan 08-12-2012 11:45 AM

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The tandem bearings are ready. There´s a split outer ring attaching to the tandem box, an inner ring attaching to the rear axle and a bronze ring there between, fixed relative to the inner ring. The bronze ring has the same dimensions as a certain "standard" 4-point contact, thin section bearing with a split inner ring. Unfortunately, however, the only supplier I know of couldn´t deliver :mad:.

To the left the two faces of the outer ring.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...FFuSlVSeGRCNFk

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...XkzY096STFwUVU

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...zFXS3pQR2gtSEk

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...VVOOU9raUJDTm8

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...W5DREp3R2UwRzg

At the end I decided to split the bronze ring and make a one-piece inner bearing ring.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...kgydXdMVmYwbU0

Finally, everything fits.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...W1WelFVUVlJNUk


Making of

The bronze rings were made first, to allow for easy test fitting with the other rings.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...DAtWEZsV1FDMms

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...GRDSWVWNG9KdEk

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...GxDWVVjUXRQSVU

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...UF6dWlDQjNVaWc


The main outer ring portions being parted off.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...npaS0J3cnE3aXM

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...3ZXa0dmVEN3YTQ

Test fitting during grinding.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...XptemFJVmxHa2M


The stub was barely long enough for machining the other outer ring portions.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...kVpaXRadjVtYTA

I hate making thin things. Either you have this rather insecure and hard to adjust grip or you have to make a jig.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...WVVRVd0TExGVEE

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...HZOemotVUZyb2c

This threading apparatus is really an excellent tool.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...E9wSzBmRHF5b28

Thanks for looking.

Stefan

Hemi1966 08-12-2012 12:08 PM

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Once again, excellent job Stefan. I don't have any more words to praise your work:)

About the threading apparatus for how small tap can adjust it ?

plow jockey 08-12-2012 12:29 PM

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Your skills are amazing ,a true artist.

Stefan 08-12-2012 01:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi1966 (Post 62423)
Once again, excellent job Stefan. I don't have any more words to praise your work:)

About the threading apparatus for how small tap can adjust it ?

And once again thanks, Hemi. This morning I didn´t have the appropriate words for your X-frame :eek:, that´s why no comment:D

As to your question: My device from Vertex (VTA12-JT6) officially takes M3 to M12, but I just test inserted an M2 (shaft dia. 2.9 mm) and an M2.5 (shaft dia. 2.7 mm [sic]) and that seems to work too (for the M2 only the threaded portion was visible). For the smaller taps the lower limit of the adjustable torque might be too high, but I still think it would work for M2 in aluminum. According to the user instruction there´s a smaller model (VTA7-JT6) for M2 to M8.

Stefan

Hemi1966 08-12-2012 01:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 62427)
And once again thanks, Hemi. This morning I didn´t have the appropriate words for your X-frame :eek:, that´s why no comment:D

As to your question: My device from Vertex (VTA12-JT6) officially takes M3 to M12, but I just test inserted an M2 (shaft dia. 2.9 mm) and an M2.5 (shaft dia. 2.7 mm [sic]) and that seems to work too (for the M2 only the threaded portion was visible). For the smaller taps the lower limit of the adjustable torque might be too high, but I still think it would work for M2 in aluminum. According to the user instruction there´s a smaller model (VTA7-JT6) for M2 to M8.

Stefan

Thanks for the information, I always thought that those tapping devices don't work with so small taps, but apparently I was wrong.
May I ask where did you by yours ?

Stefan 08-12-2012 02:27 PM

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You´re welcome. I bought mine from Wabeco at a fair, but since then I saw it much cheaper (for 199€ - 30% off) somewhere else (don´t remember where), so search carefully.

Hemi1966 08-26-2012 01:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 62433)
You´re welcome. I bought mine from Wabeco at a fair, but since then I saw it much cheaper (for 199€ - 30% off) somewhere else (don´t remember where), so search carefully.

Stefan, thanks again for the information of the tapping device, got mine few days ago and it works great:) I purchase the Vertex VTA7-JT6 from Ebay.

Stefan 10-21-2012 08:25 AM

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Can imagine it served you well during the excavator track build ;)

I on the other hand haven´t spent much time in the workshop lately :( (My wife had some other plans for "us" and the house after the summer, something which will still take some months). Could occasionally sneak into the workshop, but have only managed to turn the end caps and started making the front inserts for the cylinders.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...DNIejBHaXJqVmM

What looks like a shadow in the right uppermost (finished) insert is actually an O-ring (11/1 mm).
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...3lQd0hXb21rXzA

Stefan

speedy8305 10-21-2012 01:18 PM

Re: Volvo G990 Grader
 
This is definitely a build to watch I love the detail I must say all you guys that work with a lathe and milling machines are very talented

Stefan 02-02-2013 03:38 AM

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Sorry "speedy8305" and everyone else, it has not been so much to watch lately, but I did manage to make some more parts for the cylinders.

Here the circle drive cylinder parts. Only the cylinder brackets are still missing. Of all cylinders I´d like to finish the circle drive cylinders first in order to be able to perform tests and find out whether the control valve can be made to scale (if at all :confused:).
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...nVhVG9Ickd0U2s

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...i11dVZuckJvZVU

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...WRWa3pZSTJsbDg

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_yT...UpBLWZLMzEtUkE

Stefan

D8R 02-02-2013 05:14 AM

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Stefan, nice to see that you started building again, looking forward doing an inspection locally maybee in april!
Are all the "white" parts made in Delrin?
/Dan


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