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Tommy R 03-02-2021 01:53 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Well, Cletus has gotten all gussied up so he can scour the truck stops for lot lizards!
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...17_HEIC-X2.jpg

I told him his toupe looks ridiculous.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...18_HEIC-X2.jpg

Since I got rid of the raised transmission I decided to get a new floor section that wasn't cut up. I also painted and detailed the seats a bit.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...37_HEIC-X2.jpg

Uh oh, the Lesu trans is also too tall.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...33_HEIC-X2.jpg

A 2mm body lift under the cab and sleeper did the trick.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...34_HEIC-X2.jpg

Barely noticeable.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...27_HEIC-X2.jpg

Here you can also see the plates I put on the bumper and I also added some lenses to the Lesu headlights because they weren't included! :(
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...28_HEIC-X2.jpg

Speaking of the Lesu headlights, it's not going to be easy to wire these up cleanly!
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...31_HEIC-X2.jpg

Since I'm planning my trailer build, I also picked up some aluminum axles and some cheap wheels. For now I'll use the extra Lesu AT tires I had laying around, though I'm hoping to get some lower profile tires to fit underneath my trailer. Anyone wanna trade? :)
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...23_HEIC-X2.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...24_HEIC-X2.jpg

It's getting so close! Cletus had to jump in and make vroom vroom noises. By the way, it's not easy getting the body on with him in there! LOL
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...39_HEIC-X2.jpg

egronvold 03-02-2021 09:45 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Did you at one point think "Hey, I've finished my truck!", before you started the modification and upgrades? :)

Tommy R 03-02-2021 09:58 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by egronvold (Post 170263)
Did you at one point think "Hey, I've finished my truck!", before you started the modification and upgrades? :)

No way! :D I've actually had a fairly clear vision for this truck once I got it. I know it's still got a way to go, but it's never been closer!:)

Tommy R 03-03-2021 10:52 AM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Uh oh! Looks like I've got a defective super single. I hate it when that happens.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...50_HEIC-X2.jpg

Yep, I'm resurrecting my cut-n-shut days from 10+ years ago. I decided to remove one sliver of tread blocks to get the width I wanted.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...49_HEIC-X2.jpg

I've got some more work to do on them, but I'm liking what I'm seeing so far.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...51_HEIC-X2.jpg

Tommy R 03-03-2021 12:59 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
All done. Incidentally, the Michelin on the right from rcbrmin.com is SUPER hard. It made the Lesu feel like a crawler tire. The RCW4WD Michelin that I narrowed, however, is very soft, but with the stock foams it looks like it'll support the weight of the truck nicely.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_0853-X2.jpg

I may experiment with taller foams to see if I can get the profile of the tread a bit more rounded, but nonetheless, I'm quite pleased!
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_0854-X2.jpg

skeeter 03-04-2021 10:06 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
I LOVE the idea of trimming some meat out of the center of them tires!

Tommy R 03-09-2021 02:24 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Trying a new servo that hopefully doesn't burn out like the Tower Pros have done.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...BJdf2DF-X2.jpg

Interior details.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...Sv9tS3R-X2.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...tb9g9q2-X2.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...FZdmGdM-X2.jpg

Now Cletus is ready for some gear jammin'!
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...XjwpVxV-X2.jpg

Anyone else tried TheDIYGuy999's homemade sound/light controller? I'm working on it now...
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...ct2nF39-X2.jpg

jerry56 03-09-2021 04:17 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Not yet ... kind of intimidating ....really want to see how this works out

Tommy R 03-10-2021 03:48 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry56 (Post 170369)
Not yet ... kind of intimidating ....really want to see how this works out

Yeah, very intimidating for sure. I've done all the soldering now, but getting hung up on the software aspect of it. Hoping to get it resolved soon....

Wombii 03-12-2021 10:52 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
It's a great soundkit. Using it in my firetruck. I'm using my own hardware and heavily modified an older version of the firmware though. Let me know if I can be of assistance.

This truck is so beautiful!

Tommy R 03-17-2021 02:26 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wombii (Post 170389)
It's a great soundkit. Using it in my firetruck. I'm using my own hardware and heavily modified an older version of the firmware though. Let me know if I can be of assistance.

This truck is so beautiful!

Thank you very much! I'm really looking forward to getting the ESP32 unit working. Right now I'm researching SBUS/radio stuff. I use a Sanwa MT4-S radio setup and hoping I can make it work well enough. It's only 4 channels, though, so I'm prepared to get a Flysky Noble if I decide I want more channels.

FYI, I just ordered a Lesu locking front axle so coupled with the transmission shifter all 4 channels are used up, but maybe I can use the dual rate or something to operate lights and such? That's the kind of thing I need to determine. :)

Wombii 03-18-2021 02:22 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
In theory it should be possible to add some code for that. I have used an arduino to control multiple things from a single channel in the past. But it won't be quick or easy and might not be user-friendly in use. I don't know if I can gather enough energy to dive into the soundkit code for a challenge like that right now, but I might take a look.
Having more channels for light controls is definitely easier.

Tommy R 03-18-2021 02:50 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Oh, I wouldn't ask you to do that! I'm thinking of getting a Flysky Noble transmitter and I believe it can support 8 channels. I just want to make sure that it will be compatible with the ESP32 MFCU.

Tommy R 03-21-2021 12:21 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Hey Wombii (or anyone else in the know), I've got a basic and likely very stupid question to ask. :)

If I use the SBUS feature from a receiver, does that mean I can control many more channels than my standard transmitter/receiver would normally control? As I understand, PWM would mean I can only control 4 channels with a 4 channel rx/tx, but if I have an SBUS output on my receiver I can control more. Is that accurate?

Similarly, is IBUS similar to SBUS in that regard? Basically, I'm trying to determine if my 4 channel Sanwa setup can control all the features that Martin's ESP32 system is capable of controlling. It would seem I'd need a receiver with an SBUS output, however, which does not seem to exist with Sanwa. So now I'm looking into the Flysky Noble NB4, which I believe offers IBUS, but not SBUS that I can see.

I definitely want to keep a steering wheel controller for my truck, but want to have full functionality like Martin does in his youtube videos. Any thoughts?

Many thanks!
Tommy

Wombii 03-21-2021 03:03 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
I really wanted a wheel controller for my truck too, but I ended up learning to "drive stick" because I needed 16 channels.

The transmitter is what determines how many channels are transmitted through the air. The receiver is what determines how many channels are put out through wired connections to servos and other things. With the old standard PWM servo outputs that usually limits the channels, because there is only so much room on the receiver for connectors. With bus protocols like SBUS or iBUS the receiver only needs one physical connection to output multiple channels. You still need a transmitter with 8 channels and an 8 channel receiver that supports SBUS if you want to output 8 SBUS channels over one connection. Often you'll find SBUS receivers with 3 standard servo connectors + an SBUS connector for the whole set of 8 or 16 channels.

The ESP32 soundkit supports a max of 6 separate PWM connections, but more for a bus connection. Plugging in a single bus connection is easier both for the hardware and software parts.
It looks like the standard setup for for the soundkit used 8 channels, but most functions are available with 6 PWM channels. The standard setup is using:
  • 2 normal channels for steering and throttle,
  • 3 channels with 3 positions (up-neutral-down) for gear, indicators, headlights and engine on/off,
  • and a normal channel /potentiometer for horn/bluelight/siren. It seems this one has 4 positions: horn-nothing-bluelight-siren. Skipping separate bluelight/siren controls you should be able to do that one with a 3 pos switch instead, or 2 pos for only horn.
2 of the 3 position channels requires dual rates.
You could probably cut one of the 3 pos channels by enabling auto indicators when turning. If you want to skip light controls entirely and only use engine sound, you might be able to get away with 3 channels (steering, throttle and gear).

I have only barely looked at the Flysky Noble. If it can output 8 channels over iBUS it seems like a good choice. Check that the channels are assigned to switches that makes sense with the info above, and that they have adjustable endpoints.

diyguy also has an open source arduino based pistol grip/wheel controller project that works directly with the soundkit, if you're feeling brave.

Please keep in mind that the above info is strictly theoretical from the documentation and code, and that I haven't tested it. I branched off at version 4, and had to make my own code to read SBUS, simulate an automatic transmission with a separate reverse switch and control sounds directly. I don't use the light features and I don't use any of the standard channel inputs.

Tommy R 03-22-2021 02:15 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Thanks so much for all the info! I just found out that the Flysky i6X (10 channel) is only $60US so I think I'm just going to get one for now. Once I'm more familiar with the ESP32 MFU I'll consider looking into getting a wheel controller to work with it.

It looks like this receiver is compatible with the i6X and it appears to have SBUS. It's 8 channel, but I think it may be all I need. Think it's a good choice?
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg

Wombii 03-22-2021 07:03 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
As far as I can tell, the soundkit now has the power to take iBUS/SBUS in, decode and output servo signal for steering servo and 5th wheel, so that should work fine. I would guess you can use the 5th wheel servo output for diff locker instead.

Tommy R 03-23-2021 12:04 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Well, I hate to admit it, but I ordered a stick radio yesterday (Flysky i6X) with a 10 channel receiver. I also ordered the 8 channel rx pictured in my earlier post. My hope is that I will get the ESP32 MFCU working and gain familiarity with it, then when I'm more confident I can look into adapting to a 8-10 channel pistol grip. Not sure if that'll be possible, but I hope it will be.

jerry56 03-23-2021 03:48 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
You may already know but this one has the 10 ch and IBUS
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D35C6MQ...v_ov_lig_dp_it
And just FYI the with a firmware update the $50 6ch i6 becomes a 10 ch, I've done all three of mine and it seems to work pretty well...

Tommy R 03-23-2021 04:07 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Thanks! It looks like mine is coming with the 10 channel version of that receiver:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1200_.jpg

Ultimately, I'd love to be able to operate the truck with a Flysky Noble 8 channel tx, but I'm not yet sure it'll give me the functionality I'm looking for.

Tommy R 03-27-2021 09:45 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Well, in an effort to make it easier to integrate the DIYGuy999 light/sound controller, I decided to pick up this Flysky i6X. I also picked up an additional receiver and between the two of them I hope to have a solution to be able to fully control the MFCU to its full extent. In time I hope to be able to migrate to a pistol grip transmitter of some sort.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...74_HEIC-X2.jpg

So I've been having issues with the Lesu transmission. I believe I've mentioned how I've burned through a micro shifting servo and the replacement servo tends to run hot. It hasn't failed, but I think it's only a matter of time. The reason? Well, the springs are pretty strong so when you're in low or high gear there's a lot of stress on the servo to hold that gear. In middle gear there's no strain because the springs aren't at play.

After a lot of thoughts on how to deal with this I decided to tear it apart to move the shift linkage toward the front. Moving it from the rear to the front means I'll have room to use a full size servo to shift. It'll still be under load, but a full size servo should be able to withstand the load much more easily. So here's some pics of the Lesu 3 speed 4WD transmission cracked open.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...77_HEIC-X2.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...78_HEIC-X2.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...79_HEIC-X2.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...80_HEIC-X2.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...81_HEIC-X2.jpg

So here's the shift linkage now at the front.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...82_HEIC-X2.jpg

Now to get this full size servo set up to shift it. Hope this works like it should! I may instead mount a low profile servo with the servo horn up top. I'll experiment with a few options tomorrow.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...83_HEIC-X2.jpg

frizzen 03-27-2021 11:32 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
So with the FS-I6X, i'm assuming you still have a menu for setting 'End Point Adjustments' like the fs-i6?
If so, you can back off the servo throws to a lower percent of travel to keep from having the servo fighting at full power to reach beyond the mechnical stops on the trans.

If it really is the servo fighting too strong of springs, you might also be able to move a locking collar or trim a turn off the coil to reduce preload toward 2nd gear.

Tommy R 03-27-2021 11:37 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
I'm currently using a Sanwa MT4-S, but yes, it has all the endpoints adjusted properly. But the spring tension is significantly stronger than those in the Tamiya trans. I hoped to remove the springs, but they're necessary for the trans to function. Before I cut or replace the springs I decided to move the linkage so I can use a full size servo. If necessary, I'll look into softer and/or shorter springs. I also looked into just using the Tamiya trans with a front output. That would work out great except for the fact that the output is 1" higher than the front axle's pinion and it's only 1" forward.....so that yields a super steep driveshaft angle. :(

Tommy R 03-31-2021 04:19 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
I now have a full size servo controlling the shifter. It's so much stronger than the micro servo I tried and doesn't heat up at all. I think that issue may now be resolved.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_0986-X2.jpg

I also put this stuff in one rear axle to try out. It looks like it'll work better than the 2.5M weight oil I was using and shouldn't leak out. Now to do the other rear axle. No need to do the front axle, though. I have something different planned for it! :)
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...MG_0987-X2.jpg

I'm also starting to make some progress with the ESP32 MFCU. I have the steering worked out, but that's all. I still have quite a bit of configuring left to do. Having to also learn a new transmitter just adds to the complexity!
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...02_HEIC-X2.jpg

egronvold 04-01-2021 11:08 AM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Looking at the ESP32 myself, just a million other projects to finish first...

Tommy R 04-01-2021 04:29 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by egronvold (Post 170510)
Looking at the ESP32 myself, just a million other projects to finish first...

I can definitely relate to that!

So here's why I didn't bother with putting the new diff grease into the TLT front axle. Lesu locking diff with a 2.6:1 ratio. It's narrow so the tires will tuck as far as I want, they bolt up to the F350 leaf springs I'm using, they're shorter in height which will lower the ride height a bit, and with the option of an open diff and higher steering angle, it should turn much sharper. That being said, the narrow width of the axle means the tires will get into the leaf springs. Add spacers to gain more throw and the scrub radius increases, possibly causing fender clearance issues. We'll see, though! Time for test fitting soon. :)
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...12_HEIC-X2.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...13_HEIC-X2.jpg

Here it is with the diff lock cable attached. It also included a tie rod, which I wasn't expecting. Nice!
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...15_HEIC-X2.jpg

It's substantially narrower than the TLT it's replacing.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...14_HEIC-X2.jpg

I almost forgot this came with my axle order! I'm really excited about the level of detail this unit will add. I think it looks pretty amazing.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...16_HEIC-X2.jpg

Tommy R 04-07-2021 11:19 AM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
With that narrower Lesu front axle the tires tuck waaaaay more than before. And this is shown with wheels that have much less backspacing than the ones I've been using. I would actually like to space them out a bit more. The issue is the scrub radius is pretty bad and at full lock the tires get into the back/inside of the fenders. I either need to do some clearancing and/or raise the fenders up a bit.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...24_HEIC-X2.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...25_HEIC-X2.jpg

Loving the new AC unit!
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...23_HEIC-X2.jpg

And I've got a bit of good news to report on the ESP32 sound unit. I have it operating the lights like it should, but am working on the sound now. Fingers crossed I can get it all working properly!

Tommy R 04-21-2021 07:19 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Meet Fred.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...93_HEIC-XL.jpg

Tommy R 05-26-2021 10:16 AM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
So I hit a bit of a milestone yesterday. You see, a very daunting task that's been lingering over my head is the wiring for the lights for this truck. And that was on hold while I determine what solution I want for the light/sound unit. I was working on the DIYGuy999's homemade unit, but I haven't fully figured that one out just yet. I'm not giving up on it, but in the meantime decided to try a Beier USM-RC-2 sound/light unit. Since it's an off-the-shelf unit and available in the US through Bob at Hobby Concepts, I figured I'd try it out.

WOW! This thing is powerful! It can do so much. It took me awhile to learn it and get it all sorted, but I managed to make it happen and I'm super excited about it! What does that mean for the truck? Well, it means I can finally start wiring everything up and begin......dare I say it......final assembly?? :lol:

Yeah, yeah....I know no project is ever "done", but you know what I mean. :D I also have a few more goodies for the truck that I'll be installing along the way. I'm so stoked to have this thing finally nearing completion!

Tommy R 06-01-2021 05:34 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
In the process of wiring lights, it dawned on me that I never shared what I'd done with the dash lights. I did pretty much what Bob from Hobby Concepts does.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...388_HEIC-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobby-Stu...389_HEIC-L.jpg

skeeter 06-01-2021 08:07 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
I'm loving the lighted dash!

Benni 06-02-2021 08:10 AM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
It's amazing what a couple of LEDs can do...

groom3 06-04-2021 07:45 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
how did you get the sift linkage to the front?

Tommy R 06-05-2021 01:19 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
The trans came with a second shaft for front shifting. When I had it disassembled I swapped them out.

groom3 06-05-2021 02:29 PM

Re: Peterbilt 6x6 Medium Hauler
 
Wondering if you reversed the longer shaft or put it in the same way? I am trying to change mine but having difficulty.


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