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Look's great Dan, hope your operator like his "scale 35 gallon soda":p:eek::D

Cheer's, Neil.

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Man that dozer is sweet!!!! Cant wait to see that thing move! Awesome work!

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It´s called Jädersbruksdagarna in Arboga, a nice small exhibition of all different technical stuffs

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Pics from this weekend

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0008.jpg

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...DSC_0003-1.jpg

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...DSC_0002-1.jpg

A short video can be seen here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZFjO...ture=g-all-lik

Dan

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D8R-model looks perfect to me(after you get the engine cover made). I think this is the best looking scratch built model I have seen. I have a question-On post#235-the-7th-picture down-what is the purpose of the small gear outside the planetary assembly:confused:

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Thanks , yes the engine doors are parts to be done!
This is a part of the Warn assembly, it´s not neccesary. i didn´t want to change more than nedded on those parts, id they break it´s only to swap to new ones.
I only use this gear to transfer the torque out to side of hub reduction, have the same plate as you see on that pic mounted to the side but inside of reduction.
Will get a pic to show this.
Dan

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Her´s the pic showing why I have this gear. The gear assembly is a complete spare part, so are the inner gear ring to.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0080.jpg

Dan

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You have amazing talents! Keep up the awesome work!!!

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superb build...quite dun believe it!! Great job Dan

Izzzul

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No update for some time now, just made some new pins to hold the blade and ripper to machine instead of ugly big bolts.
Muffler is finally ready with some fillings (steel wool) inside, hope to get it started within 2 weeks, so eager to see how the noise level is with this muffler.

Did do a trip to southern Germany to show at Friedrichshafen this year too, mainly to pick up some tools and details needed and of course vacation. Did also have a nice chat with Stefan (G990), a new friend found through this forum. :)

Some new machines (to me) was shown , see pics below.

Caterpillar dump truck 772
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...DSC_0118-2.jpg

Cat ADT
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0119.jpg

2 realy nice Scania´s
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0132.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...DSC_0131-1.jpg

Cat excavator
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0123.jpg

Working hydraulic hammer on that machine, smashing the concrete floor to smaller pieces
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0151.jpg

to be crushed with this working crusher, as you can see no paint on it, guess it was a prototype shown here
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0149.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...DSC_0148-1.jpg

Scale Art did (ofcourse) showed their complete line of models, here a very nice Palfinger hydraulic crane
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0166.jpg

Their chassis are just wounderful, here a MAN heavy hauler
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...DSC_0164-1.jpg

A new (for me atleast) manufacturer of nice models, ECM (see their home page www.ec-m.ch). They are quite expensive but looks like you get what you pay for. Since I´m a dozer guy, it looks like future is bright, there´s a D11T coming!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0152.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0155.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0160.jpg

And last, 2 pics showing some areas where models was shown
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0128.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...DSC_0126-3.jpg

Dan

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Very good pictures and models! Thanks for sharing! Those big CAT and Komatsu exavators look really nice!

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Man if we could get our shows looking that cool that would be awesome!! Looked like a cool place to go and look at everything! Great looking machines! Must of been nice to be able to see everything up close and look at details to make purchasing decisions! Thanks for the great pics! that crusher was sweet!

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Fantastic pictures Dan, thank you very much for the great photos! :cool:

Those jaw crushers are starting to appear more & more all the time. The one you have pictured, was it built by a model manufacture or a private individual? I wonder what the pricetag might be for something of that awesomeness? :D

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No, this cruser was in Premacon´s stand, they where called Liebherrmodelle before. Besides those models they have some nice scalemodels of Scania to. They do not have the cruser on the home page yet.

http://shop.premacon.com/index.php

The photos from driving area was area designated for 1:14 size. Another one for bigger 1:8 models, in addition to 2 more areas. This was in one of 5 big buildings (like this one), the others filled with everything that a modeller could wish for, from scale nut and bults to CNC machines! From 1000´s gallons water tank for ship models to huge railroad layouts, even a working steam train model running with passengers outside.
I have not been to the other big shows in Germany (yet) but think this one is a good one.
Couldn´t find dates for next year yet but guess it will be 31 october-3 november 2013.
Dan

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Looking on Google maps, I found where you live Dan, then Friedrichshafen... is it about 1500kms for you to travel to the show? Do you take the train the entire way?

Thank you for the info on the crusher, much appreciated. It'll be interesting to see if such a model will ever be produced (or just even the primary parts to start such a project)?

I have found a model jaw crusher in Germany for sale from a private individual and was blown away by the price!!! (then add shipping $ for something that weighs 150kg) ..it'd be interesting to see what Premacon would come up with for a price to compare to the private built model?

Thank you for the notice on next yr's possible show dates. :)

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No we usually fly down there, either to Munich (Germany) or Zurich (CH). With a rental car it´s a ~2hour drive to Friedrichshafen. The area around Boden sea have some breath taking scenery, love the alps!
Some day I hope to bring the D8 with me, guess they need a bigger working area, don´t know if they will allow models with combustion engines in that hall.

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Here is a link to these shows that Dan went to, i would love to go to the Karlsruhe show in the end of mars, if so i think i will go by car.

I havent seen any info on the crusher on the german sites yet but i have seen som CAD drawings of a Liebherr 754 dozer that Premacon is working on.

Also, thanks for the pics Dan, always nice to see pics from these shows!

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Yeah, was nice talking to you too, Dan. And thanks for sharing the pictures - me stupid having forgotten the camera in the car :mad: However, I made extensive use of my binocular [sic]... :eek::eek: First time a brought it, and it really paid of despite the weight to carry around; makes a huge difference being able to see the tiniest screw on a model 10 meters away on the driving area. Must have looked pretty strange to other visitors, though - have never seen anyone else with a bino on such a show.

Stefan

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The fifth picture down of the cat 374d lme. Is that a Hendrick Seipt model? Doesn't Hendrick Seipt from THS Truckmodelle work for Premacon? It looks like one of Mr. Seipt's one off cats. Do you have anymore pictures of the 374? Do you know where the cat 772 from?

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Well, with your talents, there's surely powerful enough brushless motors on the market to repower your dozer for such indoor events? ...as many times as you've had that model apart during your build, you could make a swap blind folded in record time! :D

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No models with combustion just very realistic sound and smoke modules.... :D

Cheers,
AP

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Maybee if I say that I have the most/best realistic sound and smoke module inside:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Dan

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Have still some parts to do, one major assembly is the hydraulic control for ripper tooth. My big steel cutter can´t be used right now, don´t have any electricity in that shop anymore (mowing out) so did some CAD on needed parts to be laser cut. Will probably take a couple of weeks before getting the parts but feels good to have this going. Also the sheet metal parts for hood will be done at same time. Those parts are the last to be manufactored (exept for new windows for cab), I hope. Then testing will start :):)

Some printout from program, all major parts, in total this will add up another 60 parts
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/.../MV44088-1.jpg

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/.../MV44089-1.jpg

With some yellow paint on. This cylinder will not be hydraulic operated, don´t have any valve position or RC position left. It will be spring activated, push cylinder rod in and ripper can be adjusted. Maybee later it can be changed to a electric cylinder but don´t think it will be used that much.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...en/Assem1d.jpg

Since working with ripper assembly this was removed from dozer. Have never had it without any attatchment so got some photos, this way with scraper it will look like some bigger machines at McAninch.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0336.jpg

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0332.jpg

Will come back when parts done
Dan

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thats cat is sweet, but i want to see the lowboy and tractor you build to haul it!!

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Very nice Dan, what a great build this is!

About laser, we got a laser shop in Borlänge called Borlänge Plåtteknik, http://www.dpt.se/system/visa.asp?HI...825&HSID=15710, they have helpt me with some laser cutting and make it quick. If you like to try, talk to Fredrik. //Kalle

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There has been plans for building this, but it depends on if I can get some drawings to work from. As you might know, I´m living in Sweden and we have different lowboys here, if I build one it should look like an american, Rogers or other brand. Guess it´s hard to get drawings, next option is to make my own drawings (need to go over there :rolleyes::D). If anyone have connections to a manufactor, please let me know, don´t need production drawings, only a nice drawing showing main sizes and positions with side- top- rear view.
Have a KW drawn, as with all rolling models, biggest problem is to find tires looking like the real ones.

About electric drive, there´s always a possibility to change way of powering this model, it´s not that hard to remove all hydraulics (exept for cylinders) but you will need some big batteries to get the power. But I will try with gas engine first, if that fails, that problem has to be dealt with then.

Progress, last (?) parts on order now (Kalle, have a good supplier close to where I live, thanks anyhow) hope to get them before christmas.
Did buy some thin glass (1,7mm) sheet, will try make windows in real glass.

Dan

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Hi Dan, here is the link to Roger trailers
http://www.rogerstrailers.com/
I saved the site for that very reason they have drawings with dimensions, hope it helps. The build is coming along nicely.

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Hey Dan, You may want to cut the glass to size then see about getting it tempered so it won't crack easily.

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Thanks, did look there on a 50 ton lowboy(CR50PL), scaled down to D8R size (1 to5,6), the trailer alone will be 9foot long! Unfortunatly it looks like the drawing is not so good for detail, have to enlarge it with 1500%, but it will give main messurments. Guess christmas holidays saved behind computer making some drawings.

Steve, I will try cutting the windows first, not sure I can do it, is it specialist that tempers the glass?

Dan

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That thin of glass is not difficult to cut if you score it correctly with a good glass cutter. After cut to basic size, you can grose with pliers sand or carefully grind to get the rounded corners then sand smooth. You should be able to go to a glass shop and they could get the pieces tempered for you. I learned how to cut glass at an early age in my grandfather's stained glass shop.

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Steve,
I got a Silbersch cutting head in the deal with glass, looks like a good tool for cutting. Will keep you posted.

Truckmaker, did go thru Rogers sales documents on there web site, They have some nice drawings like for this 50 tonner
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...series-500.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...7_0750_001.jpg

But on other hand, I have a crush for California style lowboy like this Murray

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...murrayprof.jpg

Not a drawing to build from, have to make some contact there, think the Professional has some advantages, not so long as Rogers trailer.
By the way, have you 1/16 seen this trailer, they have one for sale, no price tag seen

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...tbilen/38a.jpg

Dan

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Did try milling the track shoes (keeping track in place) on bogies. Did take nuch longer time than expected. Had to start making some angle bits to use as guides when milling

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...DSC_0355-2.jpg

First one done, will see if I do more or wait for Santa, maybee a cnc for christmas:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Have been looking for one, maybee next year:)

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0356.jpg

This is the look when mounted, 15 more to go:mad:
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0353.jpg

And last but not least

A very HAPPY HOLIDAYS to you all!

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...DSC_0021-2.jpg

(and last pic, you can use a D8R moving snow, here my friend with the proto CAT). This is from 2 years back but we have same amout of snow this year. Ofcourse the machine is to heavy to walk on top of snow, have to use a D6LGP there.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0168.jpg

Dan

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I can't help but to set here and look and study the pics and details of you dozer build it is just very nice work

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Hi Dan, Sorry It took so long to respond, I missed the thread update, yes the drawings they have on the sales sheets are great, it was the main reason I posted the link. I have not seen the Murray trailer it looks nice! I like the multiple duals on the axles and lightening holes!

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No problem, not decided yet if going east or west coast style. Have a Rogers 35 ton trailer for my full scale Pete, no problem with sizes there.

Thanks Henry!

Did some more milling (no, Santa didn´t come with cnc) on rest of all shoes needed. Amazing how much time can be spent making small parts that for most observer will never be noticeable. But they have a reason, guiding the tracks. (yes, there is one to much, spare part:rolleyes:)

All done, threaded M4
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC_0370.jpg

Will sandblast blade and ripper parts tomorrow to get a nice surface to add more details. More about that later.
Dan

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Did get laser cutted part this week, still gets very exited when new parts arrive. And there is some times supprises, forgot one part :mad: and had some minor miss alignment on some others :mad::mad:

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...ps739c45a9.jpg

Did blade cylinder piston cover, don't know if this is a CAT part but it makes sence. Pusherarms was also modified, the right one with an extra cylinder cover plate.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...psc38b34a8.jpg

Left one with 3 different holes to set angle of blade and new square push arm
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...psb1cea056.jpg

Still to do on arms are the ladder steps on outside and a more prototypical conector (end) to dozer


On blade I made some more details, covers for cylinders, holder for GPS reciver and blade angle reader with cover.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...ps17664cf2.jpg

1st time I did mill a part like this,
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2370b4aa.jpg

GPS antenna made, lenght to be adapted as soon I have correct heights.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...psc5ebea06.jpg

Some parts for ripper tooth control was also cutted, here some TIG welded together (new expirience to me)
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...psdea42256.jpg

Cutting windows for cab on hold due to computer problem. Have an old Windows 98 computer with CAD program. The printer broke down and is not possible to replace with a newer one (needs higher than W98). So now I need to find spare parts to get out the drawings to use as guides.

Dan

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Love seeing this kind of fabrication work. Keep it coming!
What does the blade weigh?

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As usual amazing build thanks for the updates, did i mention we love pics :)
Could you save/export as a PDF and print elsewhere? depending on the filetype you could export the plot file, just a suggestion but i've no idea on such an old version of Solidworks.

Keep up the fantastic work can almost smell it running

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Thanks Steve, yes it felt good going back welding again (still beginner at that to:o)
The weight of blade is 54lbs or 25kg but you get a good grip on it holding in guard. The pusharms weight another 16lbs.

Thanks, yes hope to to smell engine soon, been waiting a long time for that.
Pdf could be a solution, remember getting some distorsion (lenght vs height) when making pdf sometimes, will check
Dan

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Pin puller assembly done (except for pins instead of bolts)
CAD model:
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...en/Assem1d.jpg
and how it turned out:
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/...psece46f78.jpg

Do not have room for any more hydraulics so it has a spring loaded cylinder.
Testing doing videos with the dozer cam, see here:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsZIEjif7eM

Spacers inside ripper assembly (where tooth will be) will be milled in alu and bolted in place. Not shure how tight/loose the ripper should be, some movement needed for shure. Will get alu tomorrow, pics coming.
Have a nice monday night!
Dan