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Lookin for YOUR opinion on Postin like a fool!
There's always a few! Ok! Now I'm not wanting to be a prick! But when I start gettin phone calls & p/m on somthing a member is doing on the board,that's not done in an adult manor. I can become ONE!
So before we take the corrective measures to deal with my newest developement, ( postin like a fool) I would really like to know how everyone feels on this matter. When the board was first set up,you had to use 20 characters in a post. After some crying about the limit on postin.I was a nice guy & dropped the # down to 5. Well as you see it didn't take long for some people to abuse the post counting. So I'm open for some input on this matter before we make it right. Thanks for your input! FGD |
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I for one would say YES! up the character #count to around 20-25 so it will Hopefully stop people post padding, just so they think they can get into B/S/T etc a lot faster by taking a ridiculous short cut :mad:
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I agree! I have noticed the post count padding which doesn't really matter to me since post count isn't what matters. It's the knowledge they offer. If somebody has 8,000 posts at the end of the first year that were all "nice," I probably wouldn't think much of that person. I think upping the character count isn't a bad idea, but at the same time I don't think it really matters. If the moderators notice the post padding in a timely fashion, then they can take care of it before it becomes a huge problem. I think the character limit should be upped though so posts have more substance. I am guilty of posting simply to compliment the person who built an awesome truck... but I try and offer SOME substance in that compliment. That's how I feel about it. Not sure if it's clear or not. haha
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I don't really care what my post count is because it really doesn't mean much. But, there are so many times that someone has a really nice build and I want to say "Nice Build" and just compliment them.
How about no minimum on characters per post but... it only adds to your post count if the post is over 25 characters? That would be cool. |
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freddy , It dose not matter to me . sometimes I am short for words heck why not just boot em after a couple of warnings if thats all they're doing is typing 400 post with nice,nice build they're not really contributing unless they have a build of they're own or helping others out . I've seen a few like that in other places , gets annoying :mad:
just my blunt $0.02 IHSteve |
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Guess I'm just dense - don't understand why some people have to make a big deal about "count" or something else. Some seem to be in this for themselves. Anyway, I like Small Haul's idea of minimum characters before it applies to their count. Sometimes, a "nice build" says all you want; other times calling out specific items that you really like is warranted. I'm so new at this (working on a Komatsu dozer), I appreciate just being able to read the descriptions and see the pictures, with no concern about the counts. On the "previous forum" I was able to buy some items to help me along, so I do have an interest in being qualified to use the B/S/T.
Can the B/S/T forums be read-only for those with low post counts? Once you meet the requirement, then you could actively participate. BIG THANKS! to Freddy and those who made this forum happen. Ken Sharp |
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I think there should be an AGE LIMIT! Not sure how to control it but I bet kids are the ones just looking for something to do. Maybe everyones age should be displayed?? I like the forum and if everyone is not willing to participate in a positive manner then they shouldn't be allowed.
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I have been on other work related professional forums where users who post pad like that have those posts deleted by mods/admin. They were also warned then banned for a day, week, and finally permanently if they can't get it. Sockpuppeting is an immediate ban. It is irritating to use the new posts feature in VB to have replies in 30 threads that are one or two words.
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Yeah, even though I may act like a post ***** at times, I could care less about it.
20 to 25 sounds about right, that pretty much kills "Nice truck!", but still allows for short responses. |
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Post count? What's that? You know a long time ago I joined a forum called Clodtalk.com. It's still up and running, and it is a vbulletin to boot, as is this one too. They had the same issue, with people just trying to run up their post counts, and I am not sure how they did it, but the offical post count was retained, so members were allowed access to the B/S/T section, but yet the post count under their screeen name, displayed for all to see would show a random number. It was the greatest thing I ever saw on a forum! One guy might have 7,856 posts one day, and the next day it would read -205. LOL It kept everyone guessing, but if you actually took the time to pull the offical stats on a member, you could see what the real post count was.
Regardless, I agree, there should be a character requirement. Lately we all have been posting some one liners, but that's because a lot of the builds posted are one we have seen before on other forums, and we commented on them over there. With time, you will truly see who is interested in the project because of the skills and techniques used to build it, and the comments they leave, vs. the guys just saying, 'nice build', so they can get the post count up. |
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Freddy
I would say that the character count should be used. If someone has something thats constructive to post then 20-30 letters are not alot. this should stop spamming for post counts .. jmho Jeff |
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I'd also say put the charactor count should be 20-25.
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In a way I agree with the post count or #of letters so on.............on the
other hand I'm at work most of the time I'm on here and have to keep it short and sweet. I like to comment on builds and recieve comments on mine. There are times when a nice job,good work,or wow will sum it up. Most of the time I dont have questions or tips,etc. I do agree when you see someone comment on 30 threads in an hours time. my 2 cents! |
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Hey guys i know i am bad on the short comments and complements i am bad at trying to find the words that are of any importance or in any way saticefactory to even compare to the skills of guys and gals on this site
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20-25 is fine for me. I don't post on every thread, regardless whether I have input or not, because I don't want someone to accuse me of post whoring, since some guys get pretty quick to jump down another's throat, or so my experience with the internet has been.
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FGD If someone has a beef with a two word post,just put it on the bottom forum.:D |
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freddy,
i dont say much and i dont post just to raise my count. but it would be nice to view buy/sell untill you have enough to post there. heck, im still trying to fiqure out how to put photos in her or anywhere else. my comp skills is lacking steve |
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I guess I'm just as guilty as the next member when it comes to simple posts such as "Nice build"..."Great Progress", etc....and let's face it it makes us feel good as modelers to see that sort of response.
But I don't think there's anything wrong with a minimum character limitation for the simple fact that it only makes us better at what we do when someone leaves detailed feedback or asks a question in the mix. ****...worse comes to worse we improve this country's frightening illiteracy rate with an improved vocabulary....too many goll **** abbreviations for words anymore. -Alex |
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good idea
lol some people abuse the counter its unfortunate i think its ok for short posts, but constantly?.......no glenn |
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Excuse me foe chiming in I did not say anything on or about the deal with the Garden but I think I will this time. What does a post count have to do with anything on this form. I thought we were going to act like Gentlemen now we are going to be cry babies. It going down the same road again. I try to make my post short and sweet not a novel. It seems there are still some people that need to grow up. Ed P.S. Was this long enough?
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I have to agree with Jammer on this one. Lots of times all that is needed is "Nice truck" to make a builder know that you appreciate his work. Putting a count on the characters for the post to be accepted is bull in my opinion. Emails and PMs should be the way to ask ??? and give advise unless you are doing a tutorial for everyone to enjoy.
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Please don't start the forum out like this
i was a member of the garden for a couple of years and didn't post more than 30 posts the whole time i am a member of scale4x4 and have been since 2008 and has less then 40 posts the only thing a high post count means is that you can type so please don't start on how many posts we need to be someone or how many letters your post needs to be worth anything i have read posts of three words that are more meanfull than other posts that are two pages long that are worthless wow lots of words for me lol |
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I agree with the last three posts. I really don't see what a post count has to do with anything. A person's one and only post might be just the info I needed or someone can post a thousand times and still not say much.
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*cough, cough* Probie.
lol Freddy, I would see how it goes with a post count of say, 10 or 15? Then you could change it to accomodate the number of posts. Trucker, standing by. |
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I agree with Shorthaul zero count to post but minimum to add to count :):)
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I agree with the character count, and while compliments are nice to give and receive it does get a little annoying when you see a thread has new posts and all it is is one or two words. Sure I am interested in looking at the other boards where you need .... I think it was 30 posts ..... but I am prepared to do it responsibly and legitimately.
I mean were adults (well most of us problay are) lets behave like them |
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post count realy dosnt mean much. If you have a high post count, that just means you spend more time typing than you do building.
On most of the forums I'm a member of (other than r/c) in order to have access to the b/s/t section you have to be a paying member of the forum. There is also another membership for "sponsers" i.e. vendors. My over all opinion is by having a limit on how many words are in a post could chase people away. |
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Please don't resort to a word or letter count. Many times all that is needed is a short-to-the point comment.......remember..... use the KISS method
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I agree no character count.
Brian |
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I have to come down on the side of no character count because I think everyone appreciates receiving encouragement, even if it is brief. This results in people continuing to post substantive info. Haven't we all seen someone post something and then get discouraged if there are no subsequent posts acknowledging their work Of course it is not good if the reply post is abused but I would prefer to see those get dealt with on as needed basis. Like many things, I think granting discretion (in this case to post) should (in theory) work better than rigid mechanical rules.
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I know that this has probably been decided but I agree with the no character count on the posts. I also strongly support the fact that there needs to be a minimum number of posts prior to entering Buy/Sell/Trade as there are some who just want to get there to try and sell stuff and never contribute. While I am not currently a builder because of the lack of time, it is great to be able to see what others are doing and then tweak a built rig that I have through working with, talking to, or buying small things off each other.
Everything is a fine line to keep people from padding posts to quickly get to 10,15,20,25, or 30 because a smiley isn't a substantial post. It is a hard task that the board moderators will have to protect members, and maintain a forum that is fun and friendly |
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I am sure that there is a way to show/hide post counts based on the group the person viewing is in. It would be done in the Control Panel settings and if it isn't standard by now, I am sure there is a modification/hack that someone has come up with.
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i am a person of few words.....i have learned to say as little as possible but make your words count.what difference dose it make how many words you use to make a point as long as you get your point across
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Ok, I have been on a few forums and I don't think that anyone on any of the 3 forums i have been on can say that I don't contribute. I know how to use the forums but that is really it, I don't know how they work or any of that stuff. The first time I heard the term "Post *****" was while talking to Rick (Rogue) on the phone. I had commented on every thread that was listed on the "New Posts" tab.
I really have no idea what a "Post *****" is. I thought the reason for having a forum like this was to communicate between people of a like mind. When I see something I like, dislike, or want to know more about, I comment. So please tell me what is the definition of a Post *****? What does having a high post count do for you? What is B/S/T? I never gave any mind to how many posts I make. Like I said I see something I want to comment on then I do so. If I have something to share than I do so. I personally have not ran into anything as of yet that I can not access on this forum. (am I missing something good, like a secret RC society, with rings and special chants:rolleyes:) I get much more enjoyment out of seeing a high "View" count on my threads than I do seeing any type of post count. To me the more people look at my work the better I feel about it. Regardless of the comments they make, or even if they don't make them. For instance, if you look under the Highway trucks and trailer section as of yesterday anyway my thread for my build had the most views. That makes me happy because that means that people what to see what I am doing and what I am going to do next. If they comment then great, if not, well I can live with that, there are a few guy's that I think follow my build and take the time to comment. I appreciate all of them. They help me with their comments, even you JAMMER. So in short I guess I would have to say that if a post count will keep me from going someplace on this forum then NO I would not agree with one. As for the word count, well as I pointed out above even a "Nice Build" is appreciated. And the occasional "WOW" well hey I have done some things that are perfectly acknowledged with a simple "WOW". So I guess the word count thing would be a no as well. Of course as I said if I had some idea of what all this stuff meant or did for someone than my mind could be changed. I know I don't have to worry about the short messages coming from me because I can be long winded most times. -Mike |
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I dont care how you do it Freddy,
I think the count is a stupid thing also. Also I would like to give a idea too. How about people like myself and others with multi builds and what not make it one location and one space per person like a build thread but house all the builds in one location per person sorta like Tamiya Cowboy did in scale with all his builds in one spot. Greg |
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"POST *****" is someone who just posts to get a post count. Now over here we had a problem with a few members you would go into a section and see 15 threads that they posted in in a row and they were one or two word comments like "Nice" or "Sweet" or "WOW" just to raise there count so they could use the buy sell trade. Now over on scale your post count will build you a truck the more posts you make the better the truck is we were going to do that with semis but we backed out of the idea as we thought it just helped cause the problem. We want guys to comment but really say something and mean it..
Now Greg doing one thread for all builds.. I have done that in the past for 5 years on many boards and it really does not work well.. I normally have 2 to 3 builds going at one time as I get board on one and if they are all in the same thread it is very hard to up date and guys dont know what you are updating and when it really is sort of a mess the one way that way would work well is if a builder would have a section to there self but that too would be a mess in its self with the number of great builders out there the fourm would not be a community it would be a bunch of small community's in one large one. Builders like you Greg that do many builds I dont call that 'POST WHORING" I just call that building and that is great your not just trying to run your numbers up you are just doing your thing building for the love of it and that is what it is all about.. TC.. |
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I agree with you 100 % but I didn't relize the problem in doing it that way it looked so cool the way you could find all your build in one spot. Greg |
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One way to let people find your builds is put links to your build threads in your signature. I see this on lots of forums. If you like that poster, you can visit their threads.
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