Snochaser's Construction Co. Builds
 

Not sure what happened to my other post I believe I started here but..... I have made a little progress

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I think I'm gonna get some cylinders from Clippard, since I have not seen or heard from the others:confused: as I find time I'll get a little farther. Ben

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great job Ben , who are the others that you have not herd from ? Clipperd seems to be great to work with . I'm just trying to make up my mind who to trust to get a pump from . Or bite the bullet and build it myself :confused:

IHSteve

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PMD has had problems getting anything and everything I have wanted. No problems with Clippard.

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which means they have no pumps in stock either :confused:

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Coming along nice Ben

Did you use a servo setup for the steering ? Electric steering and drive would work well as you would only need the pump for the boom and grapple. Get better run time if the pump isn't running all the time..

greg

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Looks great. This is one of my favorite projects.

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Actually Greg, if you put the pump on an esc and use the dual rates that are on most radios, you can mix each valve function with the pump. The more you move the proportional ch of the valve, the more the valve opens & the faster the pump electric motor runs. Proportional ch centered (neutral), valve closed & electric pump motor is off! Pretty slick way of setting up a hydra system for max run times. I learned that trick from Ole & the norwegian gang. ;)

My Volvo adt is on an esc, Sabertooth 2x10, mix feature turned off. One esc runs the pump, the other runs the six wheel motors... though I haven't figured out the dual rates function on the cheap radio I'm using, i use the ratchet left stick to control pump speed. The hyd pump is probably 1/3 speed while driving straight & maybe 2/3's to turn quick in the corners.

Great work on the skidder Ben, it's taking shape nicely. :thumbs up:

I looked for your thread too, but I can't seem to find it either.

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These are the kind of builds I like seeing. It's interesting to see what a guy can pull off without a huge machine shop, and many times the results are great! Like this build. It's coming along really nice. I'm looking forward to seeing the progress continue! I'm curious to know what kind of tools are in your arsenal!

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IHbuilder- no he's been out of pumps for I believe 4 months now!!1

Greg- I did use a servo for the steering works well good torque, can't figure out how to run the servo off the "big" battery only off the pack with the radio

Blender- thanks I am really pumped up about it!

LilGiants- you are way above my head on the dual rates and mixing stuff. I do have a Sabertooth in it and a new digital 7ch radio, but no experiance in what your are talking about. Thanks for the compliments.

Espeefan- the bulk of what I have used for this is: bandsaw, tablesaw, mitersaw, woodlathe (to make the wheels), wood vise, metal vise, dremel and a torch.

I wish I had a mill, break and metal lathe though not to mention a bunch more tools. I do woodworking as a hobby and a side business- I am a firefighter/paramedic as my fulltime job.

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Glad to see some progress Ben. Your doing some fine metal work there.

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Do any of you know of a continuous swivel I can use for the grapple so I can spin it 360 and not have an issue with hydraulic lines twisting?

Thanks Ben

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Have been following this build as a 'lurker' you might say for quite some time now, and was disappointed I didn't get to see it in person at Indy.

I couldn't help but chime in....

Phenomal fabricaton of an awesome machine.

And those Mashers are a perfect tire choice, spot on for the ag/industrial look! Our drivers haul quite a few loads out of Titan Tire in Bryan, OH and many times they sit in the shop while the trailers are being serviced....loaded with a mix of ag, forestry, and industrial tires and by far these tires you have from Pro-Line are the closest to any I've seen!

Nice work so far all around Ben, looking forward to more!:)

-Alex

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Thanks Alex. I spoke with your Dad for a short while in Indy, he said you were working and would be there after I left, would have like to have meet you.

I got real lucky on those tires, they are discontinued and found them at a LHS that has been around for many many years. Guess I should look for more, they would work for several builds I'd like to do.

Ben

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If you're looking for another set of Masher's let me know. I have a set that came on some wheels I bought and nobody wants em, can't give em away. Hate to toss em because they're in great/almost new shape. Shoot me a PM if you want them.

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nice progress on the skidder very nice work keep it up and you'll be dragging logs in no time

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a little progress... either I will get lucky and figure out how I can get a mini linear actuator or hyd. cylinder to work or it just won't have powered rotation

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I am open for ideas. Thanks for looking. Ben

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I was thinking about your swivel issue on the grapple. I had the same problem on may CAT 345 log loader. What I ended up doing is just building a grapple that opens as wide as possible and is free to swivel on its own. When there is no logs in the grapple I have mine set up so that it goes straight again, there are times when you have to hook one side of the grapple on a log and then move ahead a little to swing the grapple to get it over the log but not often.

greg

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wow that's alot nicer than the grapple i got made up. you shere do some fine work

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Solder one side, now gotta do another..

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Greg- I figured that would probably be the route I would end up taking (though it bums me out)...so free spinning grapple it'll probably be.

Mog- I am sure you are doing a fine job. I haven't seen any posts from you..am I missing them....where's the pics of what your buildin'??

Ben

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What are you using for the drivetrain, looks like you might have GRU/motors at each wheel?

Nice brass work!

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Nice soldering job. Are you using a resistance unit of just a small torch?

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Thor- they are 20rpm gear motors.

9W-Monighan- I am using a "regular size" torch (same one I use if I am doing plumbing) for the work. I'd love to get a resistance soldering unit though...just don't want to spend the money.

Thanks to you both on the soldering, only other brass I have done is what is on this model. Does require two rare commodities though...time and patients! I don't have much of each in my opinion.

Ben

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Ben , your doing a fine job ,these models take a lot of time . I learned to go to another if I get frustrated on 1 thats why I have so many going :p .


IhSteve

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Snochaser-very nice build you have going! Don't know what scale you are building but the model looks kinda big. Could you use a modified (full rotation)micro servo as a rotator and build a round case around it to hide it. Don't know how much torque you need but just a thought.

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Modelman- It's 1:14 scale, if I did it correctly. I still will have a problem with lines twisting if it rotates. That's the booger. The other motor I have would be good but.....

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What about mounting it rigid and just let the servo arm rotate? Have the grapple mounted to the servo arm.

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o my skidder is a long lost projet mabey this winter if i get time hoping for a lon clod winter and like 8 mounths with all the stuff i need to get done lol. there are some videos on my youtube
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Ben-

GREAT work! You're doing an awesome job. Keep the updates coming.

-Terry

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Nice work, Ben. I wish I could solder like that.

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Thanks guys!

Modelman- I believe I know what you are saying, not sure I could fit the servo though. I may look into it.

Mog- That thing looks like a beast, quick and torquey.

Ben

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Yeah after thinking about it,a servo is probably too big.

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a bit more.....

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Thanks for lookin'

-Ben

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Very nice work!! Maybe you will be hauling logs soon.

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nice job i can't wait to see this thing in action logs pipe what ever you can think of draggin behind it :)

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Very nice!

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I'm hoping to get a lot of work pickin' up sticks in peoples yards. LOL

I'll have to move it in with my new Pete that should be here in a week or two from SemiJoe. Oh....guess I'll have to build a trailer first.

I am gettin' antsy. I want to try it out. I think I will be waiting for quite some time more (and quite understandably so) for the hydraulic pump though.

Thanks for the compliments.

-Ben

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Really nice work Ben. Insted of it being able to spin 360, you could put stops on it so it would swivel to a limited range. Just a thought.

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Great job on the grapple and the skidder itself. Have you checked with any machine shops to see if they could make a mini rotator for it? No clue what they might charge for that, but it's an option if you really want it to be able to spin full 360.

Another option might be to use those linear actuators for the grapple cylinders and an electrical slip ring instead of hydraulic.

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looking good, the grapple looks strong. nice work,

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I have thought of something like that, but not sure how to do it. I don't know if I could run it through the speed control and then limit it through my remote.

-Ben