Azonic Hitachi 470/Bell B50D
 

Hello everyone!

Im Kalle from Sweden, i got invited to this site in january by Greg (Losiassociated), i checked it out but then totally forgot about it! :o
But yesterday i found my way back and registerd!

Oh well, i have looked around and **** there is alot of talented builders on here, i sat yesterday and just drooled for several hours, amazing what talent some people have.

So on to my equipment i got for about 1 year ago, i do not have the machines/knowledge to make equipment like this from scratch so i had to buy to get them.

I got the Hitachi 470 from Vario late last summer and the Bell dumper on spring this year.
I Just got the new trackdrive done for the 470 and it made a huge difference for the tracks, just need to paint it.

The Bell is not done yet, its at the painter at the moment and i hope i get it back soon.

Here is some pics and some videos..

470 with the new trackdrive.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...8-17225705.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...8-17225721.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...9-09234453.jpg

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http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...5676165281.jpg

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http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...0/DSC07075.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...8-23205915.jpg

Videos.
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[IMG]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...PR0109_NEW.jpg[/IMG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j183RTtzOf0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-mt7dDNlsY

Bell B50D

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...5-06220343.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...5-06235806.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...5-07000321.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...6-17230931.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...6-18121316.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...6-20215226.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...8-19221927.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...8-19231852.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...8-19231900.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...8-19232127.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...8492775832.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...8491822292.jpg

More to come!

Kalle

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Welcome Kalle , Wow I didn't know you got the Bell , then again I haven't been on scale lately .

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Welcome Kalle, I've been following your thread over on scale 4x4 for a while now. Glad you could join us here. I like the construction of your excavator. The final drives give me some ideas for a small build I'm planning soon.

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Welcome aboard Kalle love the 470 and the Bell looks better than the 740.

Andy

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Thanks!

Yea i got the Bell as well, it was very har to hold back! :D

Thanks!

Yep, ive seen you over there and your dragline. Yes its a nice design and it should not be a problem for you to make!

Thanks!

Yes i totally with you on that one, i dont like the 740 at all, just looks wierd!

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Good to see you made it over here Azonic, beautiful equipment as always.

Chris

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Thanks! :)

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Hello Kalle, good to see you here & have your fine workmanship displayed here on this forum as well. :cool:

It's great to view your new undercarriage and see 1st hand the proper speed of these new planetary gh motors we special bought. Thanx for sharing.

And I like your new wide link tracks... I've got a few ideas to work at this winter to improve the narrower track link that I have to correct the issue of skipping off a track while turning. ;)

Sometime October maybe I'll tear down my 850 to install my upgrade parts as well... I'm pretty sure my machine shop guy is too busy with harvest repair jobs to fit in my toy repair job into the mix atm.

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Thanks Joe!

Yes the new track motors with the gearing we choose seems to be perfect, im really happy with it right now.

The new wide tracks and sprocket seemed to cure the problem with the tracks coming off, that happend quite often before, hope you can fix yours, otherwise just go with the new tracks, you wont be dissapointed! :)

Ohh so there is a solution for the swing problem in the works? It would be awesome to get rid off that jerky swing on slopes and such.

I actually tought it was the motor that was going to fast for its own speed and cusing it to jerk when going downhill on a slope.

How would this be done, a motor sitting on top with the shaft directly to the axle for the swing gear in the undercarrige?

Like this?
http://www.modell-baustelle.de/index...d82fdd7e91d5ec

http://www.modell-baustelle.de/index...b5876a862d566a

Or like this standing up?
http://www.abload.de/img/p280709_21.52crxx.jpg

Im very intrested in this Joe, hit me up with a PM when you have more info pls! :)

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Welcome Kalle
I really enjoyed your photo's and imformation on these model's, thanks. I think you have got yourself some models that will last for many years..

greg

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Thanks!

Yes i think so, hopefull i can keep them for a good while! :)


A little update, not much but something! :)

I tought about the bucket today thinking it always looked so old school and boring so i wanted to make it look more like a new style bucket, it was also hard to pick up rocks and get them in the bucket, i think this will help.

I took some measurements and cut out a bit on the bucket, turned out really good i think, much better then before, should be able to carry about as much mass as before anyway.

Before.
[IMG]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...3-10190914.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...9-21220317.jpg[/IMG]

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...9-21220333.jpg

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A simple alteration for better function. :cool:

I see your teeth are looking a bit dull, digging too much rock! :D

How are the pins fixed in place on your Vario bucket? Epoxy?

The ripper tooth works xllnt! Thanx buddy. :)

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Haha! Yes there been some rock digging, actually where i dig there is a mix of garvel, rocks and soil so i guess it wears a bit, but thats just scale, right? :D

I fixed my pins with LockTight 638 ("Cylindrical fixing", spelling?) seem to work fine so far.

Glad the ripper is a good helping hand for you down there, that clay look sticky! :eek:

Will watch your new vid later today!

Now back to work. :D
Keep it up Joe!

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Best looking 470 yet, the detail youve added is outstanding

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Thanks, appreciate it!

A new video of the 470, enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zewv0Rbiwms

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My dragline bucket teeth look about the same after 80+hrs of digging in sandy soil. Mine are made from C1018 cold finish steel. The milling machine marks wore off the first weekend out digging and the edges rounded some. I guess we need to make some tougher replaceable teeth for these so called TOYS:D

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Haha! Youre right, some nice machined replacement teeths would be awesome...and i think youre the man do fix it! :D

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My teeth are still relatively sharp after digging in this wet clay, but I'm sure that'll change quickly when I start digging in the hard dry clay this winter. Replaceable hardened teeth is an awesome idea Steve, I think you just got yourself some new work. :D

Great video Kalle, looks like you're still enjoying some warm sunny Fall weather like I am. :)

The new shape of the bucket looks good & seems to be helping with scooping rock.

Has there been any issue at all any more with skipping a track with your new style tracks & wheels?

I sure like the speed your hoe travels now. I hope to do my upgrade soon.

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Thanks Joe, i really like the sunny fall days, not to hot and not to cold, perfect!

Yes i like the new shape of the bucket, looks better and works better overall.

I havent had one single issue yet with the tracks, they have worked flawless this far, make sure to really locktite all the grub screws on the bevel gears and sprockets, some of my screws had come loose due to too little locktite used.
Other then that its perfect, you will be happy! :)

I have slowed the tracks down even a little more, now it feels good, also slowed the pump down a bit on my mixers, as well as the swing.

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Well i finally got my parts back, this color is much better and now im happy with it! :nice:

I painted the bed with red primer and started to mount it up, some work on the cab is still needed before paint of those parts.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...0-15151327.jpg

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Thats looking **** good Kalle , I hope its performing as good as it looks .

Andy

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Looking mighty fine Kalle. :cool:

Is there snowflakes where you are yet, can't be far off eh? You gonna scratch any paint before they're parked for the winter? :D

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Thanks!

I have already tested it outside, it works great, i guess i have to wait until next spring before i can run it again though. :mad:

Thanks Joe!

No flakes yet, in the north of sweden they already got some but its still around 5-10 celcius during the afternoons, but they are not far away!

I think i will concentrate on getting it done now instead of rush it together just to go out to run it in snow by then! :) I will take my time over the winter instead and get it right the first time! :)

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A little more done..

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...0-18211816.jpg

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nice work on the Bell 850D

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That bell is sure lookin sharp! nice work.

Chris

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That's quite a full house of goodies in the cab, not alot of room left for the batt, will it be 3s or 4s for a battery? Can you get them in a square or a pyramid shape?

I'm hoping to get a 4206 from Frank someday soon. Do you think there's room enough for 3 valves?

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Thanks!

Thank you!

Thanks!

I want to use a 3cell battery i have, its a 6000mah and quite long, it will fit under the hood/cab, its not a factory fitment but it will do! :)

Ohh so youre getting one of those?! What you gonna use it for?

I think a 3 valve would fit but it will be tight im pretty sure! :)

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Today i pretty much finished off the roof section, im going to get 2 light housings that im going to mount as well, then it should be done.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...1-08194823.jpg

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A little teaser while the paint dryes...

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...4065869552.jpg

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Well the dumper is almost done, a few small fixes to do, interior needs to be cut, find someone that can cut the decals for me and some other things.

My friend showed me how to use a real paint gun, the paint turned out pretty good, a little dust was there to mess it up a little but its much better then a rattle can spray, a good learning as well, will probably pick one up myself.

Here is where its at right now...

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...2-19215126.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...2-19215136.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...2-19215146.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...2-19215157.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...2-19215210.jpg

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Turned out awesome! this is a beautiful model

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Thank you!


I also started on the interior yesterday, still a few things to fix on it but looks better now then only a total black interior with no seat. The seat is a little high but i dont wanna lower the seat becuse i need room under it for battery.

Elliot: What kind of interior parts did you recive from Frank? I only got the main interior base.

Did notice that the exhaust box behind the cab was painted in 2 tone colors, so i have to take it apart again and paint the right side yellow! :mad:

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...2-21214329.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...2-21214352.jpg

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Looking quite snazzy Kalle. :cool:

I can't tell the different shades of gray on the exhaust box, but the detail on the exhaust pipe is stunning! Did you just burn it with a lighter? :cool:

As good as it looks now, it'll look much better when the paint is scarred up and oil stains & grime all all over. :D

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Thanks Joe!

Maybe i mislead you on the 2 tone, i maybe should have said 2 different colors, the exhaust part is grey as it is now on the left side, but on the right side where the wents are it should be yellow to be 100% right, and im kinda picky about such things. :)

Yes youre right, i just used a lighter to get the exhaust to look a little used, simple and effective!

Yes, i will spill some extra hyd. oil over it before going in the dirt to really make it stick! :D

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You've done a fantastic job on that... I'm loving the soot around the exhaust as well.

Ref the interior, I got the same as you, but with a steering wheel as well. Talking of detail, how did you make the rear screen rock guard?

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Thanks for those kind words!

About the rock guard, i got it from Frank, i think its an optional scale detail.

Ok, i think i go a steering wheel as well, but it looks more like a tool for something, why not just a round shape axle? And the wheel looks kinda small.

This is what mine looks like...
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...2-23090449.jpg

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yes that's the same as mine... to be honest now you mention it it does look small and the axle is rather over engineered.

I will drop Frank an email and see if I can get a rock guard as well..

Did you sort the CTI modules out...?

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Yes its kinda a wierd steering wheel, i think i will find some other wheel, not that it will make much in scale appearence but a more simple one.

I havent got time to sort the CTI module out yet, with christmas coming up there will be some time with family, but maybe tomorrw if im free in the evening i will try it out!