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ddmckee54 03-23-2022 05:32 PM

RC Benchy
 
I don't know if I'd exactly call it a boat or not, it's ugly enough to be cute. I stumbled across an RC version of Benchy on Thingiverse. If you're not into 3D printing. Benchy is used to benchmark how well your printer is performing, hence the name Benchy. That version of Benchy is only a couple of inches long, the RC version is about 8 times bigger. The print files were on Thingiverse, and as soon as I quit laughing I told myself that I gotta build on of those. Somewhere I even saw a picture of somebody that had built a version with one of the Mario Bros. as the captain.

This is about where I'm at on this project. I hope this works, I haven't had a lot of luck posting images on this site.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

I've reprinted the bow section which isn't in the picture, and the blue hull section. That section had a layer shift that I finally figured out what was causing it to happen. The blue section you are looking at was the 2nd attempt and the layer shift occurred at about the same place both times. It was also too big, I thing I fat-fingered the scaling factor. The 3rd time printing that part was the charm, came out looking GOOD, and it fits perfectly.

The Thingiverse files give you the option of building Benchy as either a tugboat, or as a fishing boat. I was talking with one of the engineers that I work about the RC Benchy, and he christened him "Dreadnought Benchy", the name stuck. I'm going to build RC Benchy Option #3, the heavily armed tugboat version. He's got to be able to defend himself doesn't he?

Don

Zabco 03-23-2022 06:20 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
I was at my local Micro Center store about a month ago. They now have a large section of the store dedicated to 3d printing and usually have 8 to 10 printers running at any one time printing various doodads and whatnots just to demonstrate what they can do. Their largest printer was just finishing up printing a scaled up version of Benchy. This was identical to the small version used for testing but BIIIG. Was probably 8 to 9 inches long. Looked pretty darn good. I'd hate to have to guess how long it took to print or how much plastic went into it. Wish I had snapped a photo of it.

ddmckee54 03-24-2022 09:47 AM

Re: RC Benchy
 
The RC Benchy from Thingiverse is a little bigger than that, it's about 15" to 16" long, and 7-1/2" to 8" wide. It's probably about 12" tall, I never measured it.

I built a prototype for the turret two nights ago. But after setting it on the deck last night, I realized that it's too tall. Last night I redesigned the turret, I took 15mm out of the height. If I take much more out of the turret height the barrel on the forward turret won't clear the railing in the bow without elevating. I can currently get about 45-50

ddmckee54 03-28-2022 05:37 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
There was SUPPOSED to be more to the above post, don't know what happened to the rest. Oh well...

I got my Weldon #4 order an Friday, and Benchy is starting to come together - literally.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

As you can see Benchy's hull is one piece now, it's not water-tight yet but it's one piece. He also has his V8, and in the process grew some TEETH. There's a whole lot of sanding to be done before the hull's ready for paint.

Don

ddmckee54 04-01-2022 01:04 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
A lot of sanding has been done to the hull, it's just about ready for primer, and sanding, and filling, and sanding, and more sanding. Then there's the pilot-house, and the turrets, and the gun barrels, and... Did I mention more sanding?

jerry56 04-01-2022 03:10 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
That's the only draw back to 3D printing...

ddmckee54 04-04-2022 03:17 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry56 (Post 171922)
That's the only draw back to 3D printing...

That and the print time. The 2 main sections of the hull take about 28-30 hours to print - EACH. I had to print the forward section 3 times before I got a good part.

I THOUGHT I had a brilliant idea to seal up the hull and reinforce it a little at the same time. I was going to use a thinned version of my glue/filler goo and tissue paper, similar to the dope/silkspan covering on the stick and tissue model airplanes that you may, or may not, have built as a kid. Turned out my brilliant idea was more of a brain fart. The Weldon #4 solvents evaporate so quickly that the tissue didn't have much stick-to-it-iveness, and peeled right off.

After that I decided that I needed to go Old-school to seal up the hull - I varnished it with interior/exterior varnish. I spent the rest of the weekend sanding, and varnishing, and sanding, and varnishing, and sanding, and varnishing. The hull now has a mostly blemish-free semi-gloss finish. There's still a couple of minor divots that may or may not get filled when I get to the priming and painting stage. This IS a tugboat after all, it NEEDS a couple of scars.

Don

frizzen 04-04-2022 09:36 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Looks like good progress!

Dreadnaught shouldn't even fear sinking.
I was going to ask if the hull might let you put some styrofoam anywhere in there? Or does the support matrix try to seal it up into little airtight chambers well enough to float even when swamped?

ddmckee54 04-05-2022 03:06 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Frizzen:

I haven't tried floating this thing yet, there's still a couple of major holes below the waterline. Benchy's still missing his prop shaft/bearings, and rudder tube. I think it's going to take a fair amount of ballast to get this thing down to an appropriate waterline.

Benchy looks pretty massive, but between the rub rails and the deck the hull thickness is only about 0.6-0.8mm thick. It's a total of 2 perimeter walls thick. The rest of the hull is probably 1.0-1.2mm thick, it's a total of 6 perimeter walls thick. The thinnest part of the hull is on the keel in the bow section. There the shape of the interior and the exterior of the hull required infill, so the hull wall at that point is only 3 perimeter walls thick. Overall, the hull walls are probably more than 95% solid.

If the waterline is where I think it is, the barely visible horizontal line in the picture, I'll have about 1" of freeboard between the waterline and the scuppers. There's a lip about 1/4" high around the access hatch in the deck.

There's a pond in the city park behind my house, probably used to be a mill-pond, that's where I sail my other tugboat. I'm a fair-weather sailor so I'm not worried about waves swamping the boat. Besides, the pond's only a couple of feet deep - DAMHIK.

Don

ddmckee54 04-07-2022 05:50 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
The needle files, the scrapers, the wheel, and myself all have spent a little quality time together for the last couple of nights. I've got the layer lines removed from most of the wheel, should be able to finish it up tonight. The pilot-house is about as smooth as it's gonna get, not much left except the turrets, gun barrels, and pilot-house roof. And the yet to be designed CWIS and exhaust stacks. (And maybe a captain at the helm figure.)

ddmckee54 04-08-2022 10:21 AM

Re: RC Benchy
 
I haven't been able to find a Cap'n Crunch figure in an STL file, licensed trademark and all that. I did find the STL files for Mario on Thingiverse though. Why I can find Mario, and not the Cap'n I don't know.

Mario's supposed to be 11cm tall, which I thought was about right. I downloaded the files and printed out a couple of the major components. I think at the 100% size he's going to be too small. I'm going to print out enough parts at this size to determine if, and how much, I need to scale him up. I've still got to print out the shoes, the neck area, and the hat. Then I can glue him together and know for sure if he needs to be scaled up.

The files are split up so that you can print them in the correct color of plastic to get a realistic Mario - how's that for an oxymoron? I don't have the flesh color, or the brown, and I'm not going to buy a roll of each for just this one print. I'll just print the parts in one color and then paint them the correct color.

He LOOKS pretty good, I've just got one gripe about this model on Thingiverse. The "Download All Files" button doesn't, it just takes you to the files page where you wind up downloading each file individually. There's a LOT of parts to this guy, 35 of them, to be able to print him multicolored - kudos to the designer.

Don

ddmckee54 04-14-2022 10:47 AM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Take a look at this and see what you think, has Benchy got a Cap'n? (I think so.)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

Here's a slightly blurry side view.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

I printed Mario out at 100% and stuck him in the wheel-house, he was just too small. I reprinted this version at 120%, which I think looks a LOT more better. I think he's going to have to go under the knife and have a little surgery on his right arm though. To make it look more like he's holding the wheel, and less like he's just standing there like a Dork.

Benchey got several other modifications. He got his Close In Weapon System, his smoke-stack was modified to be a radome, and he got his diesel exhaust stacks. I originally had a really neat set of barrels designed for what was supposed to be a Mini-gun. I took one look at the printed version, realized that they were WAY TOO SMALL, and said - "Nope, not gonna happen." The Mini-gun then got replaced with the chain-gun seen in the picture. As you can see this is not just a Close In Weapon System, it's a REALLY Close In Weapon System. In fact it could be used to pick-off the seagulls and keep them from crapping on top of the turret. I've got some seagull figurines on order to set up just such a scene.

I've got to get some more hardware, motor, ESC, prop, bearings, prop-shaft, rudder-post, and all the other Bit's and Bob needed to make a functional boat - that I haven't already got stashed away somewhere.

Then Benchy will be almost ready for the test pond, and his weights and balance testing. Painting will be done after that.

Don

frizzen 04-15-2022 09:23 AM

Re: RC Benchy
 
It's looking good with Mario.

Are you going to put in some movement on the Bow Gun? Having it setup to traverse while under power could look pretty cool.

Mario might need to be careful, i hear there can be pirates around these parts
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/various/cap-n-crunch
Or there were a couple action figures

"Look at me, look at me. I am the captain now."

ddmckee54 04-15-2022 11:17 AM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Frizzen:

Actually since I work where Cap'n Crunch is made, it was STRONGLY hinted that the Cap'n should BE the captain of Benchy. I saw that version of the Cap'n, unfortunately I don't have the software or the talent to sculpt the rest of him. I couldn't find any usable STL files of the Cap'n. One of the engineers that retired from here collects Cap'n Crunch memorabilia. He's going to look and see if he's got anything usable that he can scan for me - no luck so far.

I did find the STL files for Mario though. His left hand almost looks like he's going to pull the chain for the horn - at least that's my story and I'm sticking to it. With a little surgery I think I can get his right hand to look like it's on the wheel, or at least spinning the wheel.

I'm halfway thinking about turning the CWIS into a squirt-gun in the future. I may also need to add another CWIS for the aft half of the boat. The damned seagulls have found out that they can crap all over the aft turret, and Fire-Control can't do anything about it. (Stupid radome. Besides, I've got 3 seagull figurines coming and I only need 1 for the forward turret.)

Don

jerry56 04-15-2022 03:31 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
This project is so cool....I can't wait to see how this turns out...

ddmckee54 04-21-2022 02:52 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Mario is out of surgery and recovering nicely. His time under the knife wasn't too drastic. I just bent his arm a little, and twisted it a bit. Just enough so that he doesn't look quite so much like he's the Fonz going Heyyyyyyy. I'll get a little filler on his arm, enough to cover the scar and give him a bit of an elbow.

Don

ddmckee54 04-22-2022 01:29 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Mario's surgery was done the old fashioned way, with saw and filler. I just amputated his arm at the elbow and then reattached it. I think it turned out OK. Here's a couple of views of the wheelhouse, this first one is from forward looking into the wheelhouse.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

This next one is looking at the port side. I plan to attach a chain to Mario's left hand to make it look like he's going to sound the horn.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

This last one is looking at the starboard side. I didn't get too crazy with how much I bent his arm, wasn't exactly sure where his hand would wind up in relation to the wheel. I think it looks OK.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

Don

frizzen 04-23-2022 09:16 AM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Mario is looking a lot more at home in there!
(But now i kinda want to see a greaser Mario leaning against a juke box.)

Atleast i'm not feeling as much urge to suggest Steamboat Willie piloting a dreadnaught...

ddmckee54 04-27-2022 10:20 AM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Benchy's temporarily on the back burner while I wait for parts to arrive.

You know, the unimportant stuff like the motor. an ESC, the prop-shaft and bearings, the prop, more servos - little stuff like that. I got the motor yesterday, and the servos a day or two ago. The prop-shaft and its' bearings aren't supposed to get here for another week or two.

I'll have to find something else to do until then, probably yardwork. It is getting to be that time of the year again.

ddmckee54 05-04-2022 12:41 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
The parts have started arriving. I got the motor and the prop shaft earlier, and last night I got the ESC. I got the motor installed, and the shaft fitted ready for installation. The connector was a 3mm x 3mm, I needed a 3mm x 1/8". It was a solid coupler anyway, so I've got a Huco U-joint ordered. The ESC had NO connectors, so now I've got to source some connectors, get them ordered, and installed. The prop shaft came with a useless, too small, 2 blade prop - which I knew about. So I ordered a 3 blade in the size I wanted. The 3 blade prop is apparently on a different slow boat from China.

I've got to find my 3mm brass rod and my 4mm brass tubing, they're stashed SOMEWHERE. I can get the rudder installed when I find them. When that's done all the holes in the boat should be plugged. Then it'll be weight and balance time? (And checking to see if all the holes in the boat ARE plugged.)

Don

jerry56 05-04-2022 04:20 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Can't you just drill out the coupler....??? or would balance be an issue.

ddmckee54 05-05-2022 12:03 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry56 (Post 172139)
Can't you just drill out the coupler....??? or would balance be an issue.

I could just drill it out, but I want the U-joint, just in case there are any alignment issues.

I just got the e-mail that the u-joint will be waiting for me when I get home. (It wasn't on a slow boat from China.)

ddmckee54 05-20-2022 02:21 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
The seagulls showed up last night, and it looks like Fire Control is ready to repel all boarders.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

ddmckee54 08-22-2022 01:44 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
I got a little more work done on Benchy, he's VERY monochromatic right now. Apparently he didn't get the memo that the Great White Fleet sailed YEARS ago.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0
This is just the primer, the various greys, blacks, and other colors will soon follow.

Don

frizzen 08-23-2022 09:15 AM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Camoflage to get the Great White Whale

I assume it will, but ts your boat going to be faster than the slow boats from china?

ddmckee54 08-23-2022 01:34 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Faster than a slow boat from China?

Don't know yet, I don't want too much speed, he is a heavily armed TUGBOAT after all. He's got more of a high speed prop now. I'm pretty sure it's not what I ordered, but it was only a couple of bucks so it's not worth the hassle of trying to get them to send me the right one. I've got another prop on order that SHOULD be the right one this time.

Don

jerry56 08-24-2022 04:30 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
This is going to be really fun when it's done....do you have a place to try it out...

ddmckee54 08-25-2022 11:51 AM

Re: RC Benchy
 
My back yard is a park. That park is next to what I think used to be a mill pond of some sort on the river. So yeah - I got a place to try it out. I used to run my Seaport/Harbor tug conversion there. That one hasn't been off the shelf in a couple of years. I've got some upgrades that I want to do that I just haven't got around to doing.

Back to Benchy, he's getting a proper nameplate for his transom.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

It's only in primer now, but I couldn't resist seeing how the letters would look. It needs some flat white touchup around the edges, SOMEBODY tried hand sanding a couple of the more stubborn letters instead of block sanding the whole thing. And that's the result. The highlighter is there for scale.

Don

ddmckee54 09-21-2022 11:01 AM

Re: RC Benchy
 
A sneak peek, before Benchy's completely grown his teeth.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

The black outline around the top of the mouth is next on the hit parade, along with the black below the waterline. The grey areas that you can see will also be painted black. The black that you see through the anchor ports is the inside of the bulwork. When everything is assembled what you should see through those ports is the grey of the pilot-house, or the turret.

Benchy is starting to need his Kodachrome!

Don

frizzen 09-21-2022 12:34 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Can't go wrong with shark teeth!

Hmmm, highlighter barreled cannon?

ddmckee54 09-21-2022 04:56 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Nope, the guns are already printed and painted. I've got to get a couple more coats of grey on the deck before it can be assembled and the turrets bolted down.

I have two turret mounted guns, one fore and the other aft of the pilot-house. A CIWS and radar dome are mounted on the roof of the pilot-house. The CIWS is also handy for chasing off seagulls Dontchaknow. The CIWS isn't completely painted yet, the white is on its' radome and the rest of it is just in primer. I haven't made up my mind yet what the turrets remind me of more... the head of an Imperial Walker, or the Fork Lift pit crew in Cars.

I'm still working out where to mount some of the additional stuff that Bench's getting. I was just going to screw Mario's feet down to the deck in the pilot-house. But under that deck is about the only flat spot where I can mount the sound system transducer - so the screws are out. I may have to glue a couple of washers to the deck and glue a couple of magnets into Mario's feet. I was going to say I haven't even started painting Mario yet, but I shot the white on his gloves when I painted the white on the hull for the teeth.

Benchy's probably going to get wet yet this season - maybe... but he certainly won't be COMPLETE.

Don

ddmckee54 10-04-2022 02:18 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Benchy is mostly painted and assembled, no pictures yet so I guess that didn't happen.

BUT... Mario definitely needs his Kodachrome.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

When I get home, if I remember it and before it gets dark outside, I'll try to take Benchy outside and get some pictures. He's got at least a 6 foot finish - maybe even a 10 foot finish. For those of you that don't know what a 6 foot finish is, if you're farther than 6 feet away from it, about 2 meters, it looks good. If you get closer, you start to see the flaws. If I go outside I can stay 6 feet away, so the paint job should look good.

Don

ddmckee54 10-06-2022 02:17 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
OK, the pictures didn't take as long to re-size as I thought they would. Of course the fact that I could only use 2 of them might have had something to do with that (SOMEBODY shakes too damned much and only 2 of the pictures were usable.)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0
This is more or less a side view. The "smart" seagulls know that the aft turret is hidden from Fire Control's wrath by the radome for the Search radar - so that's where it's safe to perch. Of course if Fire Control turns the Search radar on - roast seagull just MIGHT be the Cook's menu for dinner. The NOT so "smart" seagull lands on the forward turret where Fire Control can do their best to repel all boarders.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0
I assumed that where the curves changed direction in the 3D print was where the waterline was supposed to be. So Benchy's visible teeth start there and I will ballast the boat to that level - that level is about 1 inch below the scuppers. At least I hope I will have to ballast the boat to get to that level. The designer said he had to add over 1Kg of ballast and I think he had his boat sitting higher in the water than where I plan to have mine. I haven't installed the drive-line yet so Benchy still isn't quite water-tight.

Don

jerry56 10-06-2022 08:58 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
This is truly a fun build to watch.....

frizzen 10-07-2022 11:59 AM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Wow, that's looking really sharp!!!

ddmckee54 10-07-2022 02:04 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
It's the first paint job that I've done in more years than I care to remember, so it's got some warts. Being the cheap-skate that I am, I didn't want pay 10 bucks for 250ml of thinner that is essentially rubbing alcohol... So I used rubbing alcohol. It worked for some, but it seemed to have affected stick-to-it-tiveness of the binder for the last coat of black that I sprayed on the hull. The crap literally rubbed off.

I threw a coat of semi-gloss water based poly on everything to put a stop to that nonsense. In the process the black rubbed/chipped off down to the primer in some places. I brushed the poly on - should have sprayed it but after what happened with the black I didn't want to try thinning the poly to get is to spray through my air-brush. Consequently the brush picked up some of the black, now the whole boat has a chipped/weathered look. I won't tell anybody that it wasn't intentional if you won't.

I've still got the interior of the pilot-house to do. I'm still pondering how I want the wheel to look. It's definitely going to be multi-colored, but **** that's a lot of spokes to mask. Most of Mario was painted without masking - and it SHOWS!

The wheel's spokes would have to be masked. While typing this I have been plottin'-n-conivin' the wheel's color scheme. As Baldrick would way - "I have a clever plan M'Lord." I'll work on it this week-end and see how it turns out. Might have been an epiphany - might just have been a brain-fart.

Don

frizzen 10-08-2022 09:58 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Smashing job Bawlders, but what if we tell the people all the failed paint was intentional weathering, or battle damage.

Well, if masking seems like too much work, the spokes might need dry-brushing instead.

ddmckee54 10-10-2022 03:16 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Frizzen:

My multi-color paint job for the wheel is going to look OK, and so far without masking. I started out with a 1/0 brush, then went to a 3/0, and finally the 5/0 seemed to work the best for me. I'm going with a brass center, wooden spokes, and a gloss black outer ring. I just need to figure out a better way to hold the part while painting it.

I tried a Model Colors leather for the spokes, but they are a little too dark. I'll have to see if I can lighten them up a little with some Model Color flat earth. I think I'll try the "glazing" technique that SpruesNBrews uses for his 1:35 scale figure painting, applying a little bit of color in several thin coats. If the color isn't exactly consistent, so what - neither is wood.

Don

ddmckee54 10-31-2022 01:24 PM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Benchy's first "sea trials", floating in the kitchen sink, did not go well.

The good news, he didn't leak... And even with my intended 12V battery, I still needed ballast to get down to the waterline.

The bad news, there's WAY too much weight ABOVE the waterline. Once he starts to roll, he just wants to turn turtle. (Probably didn't help anything that SOMEBODY added not just one but two turrets, a chain gun, a Captain, and a radome. All high above the waterline. My 12V sealed lead acid battery's gotta go, just too much weight above the waterline. When I took that out, I was able to ballast Benchy back down to the waterline and get some stability, no more trying to turn turtle anyway. I've got a 4S Lipo ordered, a 3S with its' 11.1V was just cutting the 11V minimum for the sound system a bit too close.

Don

jerry56 11-01-2022 09:52 AM

Re: RC Benchy
 
Trail and error.....sounds like you have a plan...


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