About 7 or 8x now Steve.
Kent, you want some morbid & psychotic reading related to our hobby? just google "Canadian digs basement with rc", it'll bring up about 15 pages of links to articles, forums, blogs, ect of some of the world's worst sick twisted mofo's imaginations of what they thought of my hobby & what might be going on down there... there was one forum that started a petition to pass on to my local district attorney to investigate what I was really up to... you'll fully appreciate then why I don't want to touch this train of thought with a ten foot pole.
I'm all for fun Scott & I'll even pay to watch, but not in my backyard!