thanks Neil 2
well I went scrounging today since my kids had a 1/2 day at school and low and behold 3 collet tool holders and 2 solid end mill holders + a box set of 18 collets some missing sizes and = amount of repeates ($125.00 + tax for all of that

) couldn't pass it up

The guys kid gave me the price and his old man looked up and told him "just 1 of those is worth 125 .00 " I just kept my moth shut they were both wrong ( 1 new = around 88.00 )so now no sleep to make up for it
Steve