[Ekimjr]

thanks brain i think i probably go with the lift lest up keep and i need that with the kiddo on the way soon... neil, no i was cutting 6 in aluminum pipe with a modeling hack saw it was to late for me to use the bandsaw with out upsetting the neighbors 10pm lol it had like a 6 in blade but i could only cut about four inches before i had to cut across to get another cut started lol and yes dad i know i am farther than you being as that I am trying to piece this together in hours to get an idea i dont have a wife that banishes me to the outdoors.....praying for that lol but nay who guys i have to the phone charged up so i can post some pics later

thanks again
stetson