yea you may be right Matt but the machine the noggin is attached to can't keep up

got an outsource figure and It came up almost double what the market is . so the family tradition is , keep everything in house
thank you , Jeff , I was going to look at 1 in MD over the summer ( good price ) but the uncertain future held me back

Anyway the guy told me the same , the machine shop that I goto occasionally has 1 and told me it is easy 1 to learn on from doing everything manually . I just want to make sure while figuring my budget , I do not come up short .
IHSteve