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Old 02-13-2013, 12:49 AM
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A few measurements please, if you will??

- whats the height of the main deck w/o load;
- what is the width of the main deck with externders out, tip to tip;
- and the diameter of the tires, please?

I'm inna quandry now - TamiyaUSA has the Carson Goldie at $609 (as well as the dumper and a 'lowloader', and Garden Trucking has the PMD one at $670.

Specs - PMD vs Carson
Length: 26" (lower) + 10" (upper) - 39 & 3/8" (combined)
Width: 6.5" / 8.75" (extenders in/out) - 7.87" (unknown)

Ric said the Tamiya has aluminum rims, 65mm diameter, hence my asking about the Carson. Both have 3 axles, twin-tires on each. Goldie comes w/ bearings.

Both look really sweet...

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Mo:


A few measurements please, if you will??

- whats the height of the main deck w/o load;
- what is the width of the main deck with externders out, tip to tip;
- and the diameter of the tires, please?

I'm inna quandry now - TamiyaUSA has the Carson Goldie at $609 (as well as the dumper and a 'lowloader', and Garden Trucking has the PMD one at $670.

Specs - PMD vs Carson
Length: 26" (lower) + 10" (upper) - 39 & 3/8" (combined)
Width: 6.5" / 8.75" (extenders in/out) - 7.87" (unknown)

Ric said the Tamiya has aluminum rims, 65mm diameter, hence my asking about the Carson. Both have 3 axles, twin-tires on each. Goldie comes w/ bearings.

Both look really sweet...
Deck from the ground 2 3/4"
Width 8.5"
Tires 2.25"
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Thanks Mo.

Hmmm, 65mm = 2.56 inches, so the PMD/Tamiya tires are bigger, where the ones on the PMD/Wedico version are only 50mm, just short of 2 inches. Going 'by eye', the deck on it seems to be about the same height off the tires, so another 1/2" puts the PMD/Tamiya deck at about 3", and the Wedico one would be lower, about 2.5", right?

So, w/ the extenders out, the Goldie is only 1/4" narrower (6.35mm), her deck is about 1/4" lower in height, but she is over 3" longer (76mm) and with those really neat double-bent ramps.

Oh, and add that Tamiya offers free shipping on CONUS at the mo, $609 price tag. Only prob: I'm in Canada, and would been a buyer/re-shipper to get that deal. NAFTA my scrawny tush!

PS: makes me wonder - measurements seem to indicate the PMD 'extenders' are longer. Could they be retro'd to the Goldie to make her even wider? Just idle thoughts.

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Thanks Mo.

Hmmm, 65mm = 2.56 inches, so the PMD/Tamiya tires are bigger, where the ones on the PMD/Wedico version are only 50mm, just short of 2 inches. Going 'by eye', the deck on it seems to be about the same height off the tires, so another 1/2" puts the PMD/Tamiya deck at about 3", and the Wedico one would be lower, about 2.5", right?

So, w/ the extenders out, the Goldie is only 1/4" narrower (6.35mm), her deck is about 1/4" lower in height, but she is over 3" longer (76mm) and with those really neat double-bent ramps.

Oh, and add that Tamiya offers free shipping on CONUS at the mo, $609 price tag. Only prob: I'm in Canada, and would been a buyer/re-shipper to get that deal. NAFTA my scrawny tush!

PS: makes me wonder - measurements seem to indicate the PMD 'extenders' are longer. Could they be retro'd to the Goldie to make her even wider? Just idle thoughts.

WhiteWolf
You can make longer extenders if you want. I am very happy with it. I will post pictures of both my loders on there for you. the extenders are plastic, but I saw a place online that made some brass ones. Not something I'm gonna do because the weight is supported by the main deck anyways, the side planks just help out and hardly get any load on them.
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You have one of the PMD/Tamiyas too? or the PMD/Wedico one? I'd love to see a side/by/side comparison. From what I understand, only diff is the tires and rims, all the rest is the same.

As for weight, you're right, they'd be more of a 'balance' thing than weight distribution. At this scale, you're more likely to tip the trailer than crack the extender.

I've3 seen those videos on Youtube of 'failed' loading actions, and many are because the bed us too narrow andd the track slips off. Add the extender & board, and you have that extra surface. Doesn't need to support as much as stabilize the load.

But I still say, those double-hinged ramps are really neat. Think I have a Euro show vid with a trailer that had these actuated remotely (not too difficult, I think)

Another question, is there enough support at the mid-hinge when they are extended? I'd love a good close-up side-shot. Also like that it has fore and aft landing-jacks. Much better stability when loading (though they'd need work to be remote-triggered)
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You have one of the PMD/Tamiyas too? or the PMD/Wedico one? I'd love to see a side/by/side comparison. From what I understand, only diff is the tires and rims, all the rest is the same.

As for weight, you're right, they'd be more of a 'balance' thing than weight distribution. At this scale, you're more likely to tip the trailer than crack the extender.

I've3 seen those videos on Youtube of 'failed' loading actions, and many are because the bed us too narrow andd the track slips off. Add the extender & board, and you have that extra surface. Doesn't need to support as much as stabilize the load.

But I still say, those double-hinged ramps are really neat. Think I have a Euro show vid with a trailer that had these actuated remotely (not too difficult, I think)

Another question, is there enough support at the mid-hinge when they are extended? I'd love a good close-up side-shot. Also like that it has fore and aft landing-jacks. Much better stability when loading (though they'd need work to be remote-triggered)
No I don't have both trailers, I said I will post both my LOADERS not lowboys. The mid section is not suspended, it actually lays flat on the ground, and yes it has plenty of support, both my 966g and the carson machines get up the ramps without any trouble. The ramps have two plastic supports in the mid section that act like contact support bumpers.
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