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Old 10-12-2014, 05:54 AM
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Default Re: Replacement parts for Carson STN-L3 trailer...

Hmmm,

Electric linear actuators. Interesting idea, but two problems: speed of actuation, and throw. Speed is fixed unless you use one of the delay-boards, and throw is ~fixed~.

Firgelli makes similar ones, and they are L12-R unit is R/C PnP: http://store.firgelli.com/L12_R_Line...ol_p/l12-r.htm

Prices run $70 from Firgelli US, $100 at Robotshop.ca w/o Customs, plus 13% tax. Then in looking for Firgelli's site again, found their other Canadian distributor, Phidgits.com (more options? not really: all too big) Oh, and the CTI ones are all 12v, the German model standard. That blows that idea away, as I'd hoped to stay on 7.2v-8.4v. packs.

The Firgelli L12-R 210:1 moves at 5mm/s, 30mm shortest throw; that's 6 seconds to 'actuate' - a tad fast (but that could be adjusted with a board). Don't think I can use 30mm of throw though, but the Euro ones might be slow and short enough.

I need to see how much throw I actually need first, and ~then~ see if an actuator or servo (or two) will do the deed. I can have them paired/linked pushing both sides - double the torque. Then I can slow the beasts down with a delay-board.

I should also consider two other ways to have the ramps move slowly: a worm-gear drive, as shown on the Bruder in the link I posted above; then there is Peter Müllers' ramp-actuator 'kit' on his Faun SLT 50-2 Elefant trailer. It uses two motors to push the crank-arm, the worm-gear is mounted inside. I wonder if a similar one could be made to fit in the Goldhofer. I may have to play about with some styrene scrap and Tamiya toy gearboxes - they have cheap wormgears.

Hmm, if I can prototype one in styrene, someone could replicate it in metal and make some dinero selling it to Carson's customers...

http://www.sonderfahrzeug-modellbau....ges/rampe1.jpg

WhiteWolf

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Old 10-12-2014, 06:20 AM
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Default Re: Replacement parts for Carson STN-L3 trailer...

I just saw the smaller PQ-12 units, 20mm throw (even has limit-switches!) at $65 - they might do the trick.

Then I thought, mount 'em vertically, and you have remote Trailer legs! Not cheap though, at $65 each... (the Tamiya kit is $114 MSRP, and includes the 5th wheel control)

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Old 10-16-2014, 06:42 AM
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Exclamation Re: Replacement parts for Carson STN-L3 trailer...

Gah, hate those almost-hibernation sessions...

I'd like to publically thank Ric at PMD/GardenTrucking for his reply, but using his $455 & #455a suspension pieces would be costly (about $60 for 3 axles worth, then US shipping) so I'm leaving that as a last resort. I'm trying to do this as economically as possible.

But his e-mail did prod my aging grey matter into another train of thought (along with TamiyaUSA's new front-page w/ slide-show of new kits) and made me think of Karen at the AAF. She's often managed to get parts for me where no-one else could, so I've sent her an e-mail, and see if she can complete the task of securing a replacement sprue for my trailer.

I've still gone ahead with the perforated metal parts (hands are blistered from hand-cutting the pieces with wire-cutters) and I'm thinking of buying rod & 2mm die, bending & threading it myself, as I think I'll be using the die again later (already have M3 and up, just nada smaller)

I'll post some pics of the 'attempt' so you can all marvel at my ingenuity (or laugh at my ridiculous attempt) and mebbe it'll give you DIY ideas as well...

WhiteWolf

PS: will also give me an excuse to visit a place west end of town that may stock small hardware, as my usual place closed shop, and MicroFastener.com is a bit costly for small lots, and their stock is limited.
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Old 10-17-2014, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: Replacement parts for Carson STN-L3 trailer...

WHOA... Kudos and Brownie points for Tamiya USA.

I'd mention a name, but there is none, just 'Tamiya Customer Service'

They asked me for a picture of the parts I needed, and I sent a *.jpg of Step 8 from the manual with the parts circled. They said yes, they can send the parts, and did I need the u-bolts too? BUT... I had to supply a US address.

Well, if all goes well, my good friend that trans-shipped the trailer initially will send the parts on to me #with me paying reship costs plus# and I'll finally have a functional trailer. I'll post pics when I've got it together. Mebbe I can mock it up for a pic... hey, the loading jacks...

OH - the kicker? NO mention of price/payment.

That's why I'm so exstatic. Tamiya USA is willing to: #1# send parts to a Canadian customer; #2) via a US customer; #3) and free of charge!

I think this is a special case though, being a Carson product, and I ~did~ buy the trailer from TamiyaUSA in the first place, via same trans-shipper #Thanks buddy!#

WhiteWolf, off to celebrate a bit.
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