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bigford
03-12-2015, 09:34 PM
well it got here today!!! post office lady popped it on the scale 34 lbs
in the box.
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/002_zpseby04oe1.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/002_zpseby04oe1.jpg.html)
pic above was with the flash on the one below is the real color
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/001_zpsrjdjl95m.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/001_zpsrjdjl95m.jpg.html)

a few thing that need to be pointed first I don't read Chinese and the copy of a copy of a copy

pictures suck in the instruction book. next I bought the kat a1 bf witch I thought meant I get a black base

they shipped the silver. next was the pump motor BRUSHED not brushless like the pic online shows!!

the slip ring wires are so thin compared to the drive motor wires i'm not sure that will work???

the servos are tower pro mg995(digi hi speed) only work one at a time if I plug two in one gets wonky

and the esc beeps(could be a weak batt) the only esc not marked drive I guess it for the turn table

that only rotates in one direction... my viper 15 hooked up goes both ways(again cant read Chinese)

andyathome
03-12-2015, 10:33 PM
Also watch the hyd lines they dont like too much pressure and tend to shower oil every where when they blow.
I found it was like russian roulette , waiting waiting ...bang ... oh crap. LOL.
But its a start you have an excavator.
now build it .
cheers andy

Supermario
03-12-2015, 11:02 PM
Congrats on the new toy Mark. im sure your going to enjoy adding your personal touch to it. :). Is it just the pic or does the upper structure look like its leaning back and not level?

bigford
03-12-2015, 11:15 PM
upper was just sitting the base with the drivewires itin the way
i wanted just the empty machine BUT they now do not sell it
that way. it is all aluminum and heavy it gave the single firgelli
a work out lifting the lowboy up

Cooper
03-13-2015, 12:15 AM
Congrats on the addition. Just as much fun setting um up as running um!! Take your time as you'll be running her soon enough. And it's gonna take us a while for rest of this snow to melt and thaw ground!! My backyard pit is almost melted but rock solid ice under a nice slippery mud layer! Looks sharp all painted up nice. Did they send cat decals also? I remember someone saying they have on earlier models.

Rimrock
03-13-2015, 04:43 AM
My KAT also did arrive with the superstructure bent down in the back. I am following a series of chef Gordon Ramsay's Hells Kitchen at the TV now, and I can't avoid imagine him taking a trip to the KAT fabricators 'kitchen'...;) 'It's all ****, don't you have ANY pride in what you doing?! How DARE you present this to your customers at these prices?!' Hehe..sorry, good luck with the machine. It's possible get it going with some DIY effort)

headers
03-13-2015, 04:56 AM
Congrats on your new addition she's looking good

cosworth34677
03-13-2015, 10:21 AM
so is worth getting or is better to get the magom hrc one?

bigford
03-13-2015, 12:29 PM
magom never answered my what size is the machine .
looks like a older case excav. the kat looks like a cat 345L

cosworth34677
03-13-2015, 01:42 PM
ahh ya they are hit or miss with emails....

bigford
03-13-2015, 03:35 PM
here is the pic of the slip ring wires
top wires are servo then slip ring then motor and battery wire
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/slipring%20wire_zpsfkuz2str.png (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/slipring%20wire_zpsfkuz2str.png.html)
the slip ring wire is so thin I cant see power going from the esc to that then to the drives

bigford
03-13-2015, 05:48 PM
a little vid of the rotation seems smooth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIWmxhkbHxw

bigford
03-13-2015, 08:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnJPv584P84
it's alive!!!!!
heres one for brian @ EXCLUSIVE RC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIt9I-lvU9U

RCP57
03-13-2015, 08:25 PM
You must be stoked! I think they are a nice looking machine given the price. I'm sure with some tweaking it will work great too! I know you just got it but what are your impressions on the track drive motors? The speed looks good but do you think they are really torquey? I have almost ordered a pair a few times to replace the motors on my EC300 but keep putting it off. I am tired of tearing up the gearboxes on my current motors though and need something new before the summer show season. My excavator is over 50lbs though so they need to be quite powerful.

Thanks for the input!

Reg

bigford
03-13-2015, 08:46 PM
kinda hard to say reg it climbed the grass lip off the driveway with no problem
and up onto the lowboy the same way. all the motors are marked 12 volt and
look like drill motors

bigford
03-13-2015, 09:30 PM
like it was said good bang for your buck BUT the Q/C is lacking
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/005_zpse98siddj.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/005_zpse98siddj.jpg.html)
the drive hub is steel along with the fixed idle wheel and guide rollers
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/katdrive%20005_zpsh4dc3hyz.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/katdrive%20005_zpsh4dc3hyz.jpg.html)
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/katdrive%20004_zpsg0vqjmk1.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/katdrive%20004_zpsg0vqjmk1.jpg.html)
lock nuts on some things and others just have plain nuts and no Loctite no berring or shims
the gaps on the hydraulic are silly need spacers every where

bigford
03-13-2015, 10:02 PM
the boom and dipper and bucket
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/006_zpstixhgd6h.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/006_zpstixhgd6h.jpg.html)
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/007_zps1nn2dxyx.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/007_zps1nn2dxyx.jpg.html)
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/008_zpsq6v5p1ya.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/008_zpsq6v5p1ya.jpg.html)
no spacers to align the two cylinders from the base to the boom

Lil Giants
03-14-2015, 12:33 AM
It sounded like wifey was running the camera, she give you a wink & smile yet? :D

Exclusive RC
03-14-2015, 02:13 AM
Nice bro, hope u get it all worked out in time for cabin fever!

bigford
03-14-2015, 04:24 AM
It sounded like wifey was running the camera, she give you a wink & smile yet? :D

na that was my 11 y/o. all of a sudden 4 deer showed up to graze across
the street;) it was all she could to keep on the kat

Buster
03-15-2015, 10:48 PM
You're lucky that you've gotten the unsprayed undercarriage.
The black undercarriage looks good on the internet pictures but in reality it is spraying work worthless because the paint falls off.
The black undercarriage is sprayed without prior degreasing, sanding or base coat.

Before you take on the real job remember that the undercarriage is not suitable for heavy duty.
After the undercarriage from my Kat was pretty twisted I have completely taken the undercarriage apart and reconstructed it with the addition of a lot of solid aluminum.

I can tell you much more about the Kat undercarriage but it is much more fun when you discovered it yourself and tell us about it.

Buster
03-15-2015, 11:23 PM
what are your impressions on the track drive motors? The speed looks good but do you think they are really torquey?
My excavator is over 50lbs though

Don't!
They are not suitable for heavy duty.

http://i60.tinypic.com/2mxo6s1.jpg

bigford
03-15-2015, 11:23 PM
that undercarage is steel or at least that's what the magnet tells me.. but go

RCP57
03-15-2015, 11:59 PM
Oh no! Did the shaft break off inside the worm gear?

Buster
03-16-2015, 04:29 AM
Inside, twice.
The second time I discovered that the worm was glued or shrunk on the axle.

Buster
03-16-2015, 05:34 AM
that undercarage is steel or at least that's what the magnet tells me.. but go

Yep, the nuts and bolts are made of steel 😉 or maybe they do something with the complaints and make the undercarriage stronger now.

I do not want to be too negative about this because their service is very good.
After I had reported the problems they sent me a complete new undercarriage.
No discussion and did not have to pay anything.

bigford
03-16-2015, 06:57 PM
well buster was right about the paint the fingerprints under the black paint was
enough for me to mess with the cover. small pie tin and some lacquer thinner
and the paint was gone who knew you can glue aluminum
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/002_zpsetr8eyml.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/002_zpsetr8eyml.jpg.html)
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/001_zpshffae9vs.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/001_zpshffae9vs.jpg.html)

cosworth34677
03-16-2015, 08:41 PM
more and more i look at this makes me scared and also waiting to see what you do with it

bigford
03-17-2015, 09:38 PM
ok after two days of looking at lipos and chargers I still have no idea what to get
I was told to get a 11.1v lipo with as high of a capacity you can find/afford

so you tell me what battery or batteries and charger and what ever else lipo crap I need please.. i'm a nimh kinda guy and this lipo stuff is as odd to me as the chine kats instructions

Cooper
03-17-2015, 11:41 PM
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q750/cooperford/BFDE5A3F-49AE-40F8-A8F0-3F4BFBAE350A_zpszq5jw267.jpg

I've had my share of chargers and I can't stress to purchase the best charger you can to start with, you wouldn't regret it. I've had this one for 4 years, since purchasing I quit looking. I use a 24v power source as I charge some of my packs at 20 amps.

http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q750/cooperford/6548C796-B8C5-41DA-B84B-70164E3DD3D2_zpsboyjs5ow.jpg

Some of the larger packs I have, time for monthly maintenance. The part on left is a battery gauge , part on right is a blinky balancer. It can balance a pack by just plugging into the balance plug, also a battery gauge.

Some of the best high end performing batteries out there, (in my opinion, and many others)
http://dinogylipos.com/?no_mobile_theme
The basic go to for a lot of people
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/index.asp. Don't expect any customer service.

Long but very informative thread about lipos.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1577989

They ran not any more dangerous than any other battery when used / charged / discharged properly. Simple common sense like don't throw a 9volt (or really any battery) un protected into the trash, something could cross terminals a cause that magic effect of fire. Biggest thing with lipos is do NOT try to overcharge them , that will cook them and surroundings. Don't damage them as they may become unstable and swell. Don't ask them to preform more than they are capable of. That will lessen their life and cause them to swell. A lot is covered on rc groups threads. Lipos can't be beat for their size a capacity to deliver.

Milliamperes (mah) is basically the size of gas tank
C rating is basically how fast it can empty the tank. Usually this number is grossly inflated.
C rating for charging is how fast you can fill the tank. Usually 1-5 c rating is pretty safe. Some say 20 c but that's 100 amps on a 5000 mah battery, no one makes a 100 amp charger that a hobbiest can purchase.

A little reading and common sense and you will be fine, my biggest advise it the charger, purchase a high quality charger. And there are only about 8-12 actual battery manufactuers worldwide that sell the kinds we use, a lot of rebranding, I use to know the major manufacturers and who was using who's batteries rebranded but lost track of companies as they don't want to share that info :). Kind of like tire manufacturers- only a handful of actual manufactuers but hundreds of brands.

And I'm by far an expert, just personal experience and trusted information from others. :)

bigford
03-20-2015, 11:23 AM
well the dx9 showed up last nite WOW!!
alot of reading to do,but real cool

bigford
03-23-2015, 09:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ftk6o0JHG0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxjFv7uS8DE
messing with the kat not sure what the problem with the cylinders is!!!

Rimrock
03-24-2015, 04:27 AM
You could check if the servo is moving the valve max in both directions. Or there can be internal leakage in cylinder, or valve, so it don't get enough pressure?

Thanks for the info on batteries, Cooper. Seeing all your batteries , I am certainly glad I just got 4 Lipo's and 2 models, and 1 for the transmitter to keep track of at once;)

About the 'common sence battery balancer'..doesn't most/all newer LiPo chargers have this function of balancing, built in?

bigford
03-24-2015, 04:57 AM
rimrock it feels like the inside of the cylindrer is rough
or there is a stutter. i was thinking low voltage?? only
running 8.4 nimh right now.

Rimrock
03-24-2015, 05:20 AM
rimrock it feels like the inside of the cylindrer is rough
or there is a stutter. i was thinking low voltage?? only
running 8.4 nimh right now.

There is a certain resistance in the such cylinders and hoses, so a certain pressure is needed to move things. The pump needs 11-12V I would guess, so just 8.4 V can cause things to move slow. Would try using more voltage first, and then possible check the cylinder more close, if it's easy to move in and out by hand with hoses disconnected, check it for possible dents on outer surface.

Buster
03-24-2015, 07:49 AM
Looks to me like if there is air in the system.

Rimrock
03-24-2015, 12:16 PM
Looks to me like if there is air in the system.

That's a typical problem, yes. To little oil, pump partly sucking air. Another issue can be too thick oil. If one test with e.g thickness 32 oil used for full size equipment, it will feel like honey in the hoses...(but I would think thin type for models is used here, which would have thickness number 15-20 or so)

I've got the Kat myself out of curiosity, and I knew there would be a challenge of rebuild it. I've got friends that have the Eagle XL4200, and it's a lot of work making them go properly to. It's crazy to think about that one spend like $2-3000 on a piece of equipment, and then there is like 100 hours of fiddling around to make things work!;) Most people are tired of this crap!;) When one buy a cheap chineese powertool, like a drill, at $20, it's just to connect it to the grid, and start doing the job at once (very usually) We have been on the Moon, and we have been remote operated vehicles on Mars, COME ON!, it's 2015, give us a $2500 1/14 hydraulic excavator that works, out of the box! Just connect the battery, and GO! ;) (And then Rimrock woke up from dreamland, as the potatoes boiled on the stove.)

bigford
04-16-2015, 02:11 AM
upgraded all parts on the kat to get it working better then at cabin fever

https://youtu.be/VHVPZy1YL-8 now were digging!!!!

bigford
04-19-2015, 09:28 AM
ok so after messing with the kats valve body trying to get neutral
and not finding it or oil is passing the seals in the cylinder I give up
i'll order a different valve body and see what happens. the two ar9020 rx
that were ordered a month before cabin fever showed up in my mail box
that Saturday so now all functions work

Radar
04-19-2015, 12:12 PM
Good to here it's working better and not just a trailer queen!!

bigford
04-19-2015, 12:25 PM
nope she is a real nice load on the lowboy
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/cabin%20fever%20024_zps6jfwawz4.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/cabin%20fever%20024_zps6jfwawz4.jpg.html)

Radar
04-19-2015, 01:06 PM
That is a great pic of that Kat on the low boy and that truck and trailer combo are killer thx for sharing

daddycool75
04-19-2015, 01:31 PM
Hi Bigford,

What valve body did you order?

Cheers
Jamie

bigford
04-19-2015, 02:11 PM
going to order the morpower off ebay same one rcfarmer is using
I just charged up the batteries and going to mess around with the lowboy and kat

bigford
04-19-2015, 09:39 PM
how is the pressure regulator suppose to work if fluid bypasses it?? I assume there is a tee fitting
going into the reg from the blue line
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/001_zpshmox66rt.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/001_zpshmox66rt.jpg.html)

doodlebug
04-19-2015, 09:58 PM
The relief valve only opens when the preset pressure setting is exceeded, or the valves are in neutral (holding position for the cylinders). The picture is correct.
Cheers, Neil.

Cooper
04-19-2015, 10:01 PM
Think of it as a pressure release (like a pop off valve) the pump sends pressured oil to valve block AND to the pressure release valve (regulator) when the cylinders are maxed out or no valve is open, or digging pressure is maxed out (like hitting a big rock) then all that pressured oil is diverted to the p.r.v. That is what you can call the regulator, can adjust pressure limit to where you want. I would suggest to get a gauge and see if you are getting enough pressure. Worse case is you would pop a hose off or burst one if pressure is too much. (I would think the hoses would go before the valve seals ?) and think how the cylinders work, only one end has pressure at a time, the other end is just being pushed out and returned to tank. Do you have a gauge? It might be as simple as you just don't have the prv set to enough to pressure and that's why it seems like no power.

Cooper
04-19-2015, 10:08 PM
Oh and what does that say after kat in the above picture? I just can't make it out ? :) lol!! I forgot to mention you can get a gauge from McMaster, forget what the threads are but I drilled mine out and threaded m5 threads for hose fittings. The gauges are just brass fittings with a krimped copper pipe that expands/contracts under pressure. And there is plenty of brass to work with before any risk of getting to the actual expansion plate.

rc_farmer
04-20-2015, 05:06 PM
how is the pressure regulator suppose to work if fluid bypasses it?? I assume there is a tee fitting
going into the reg from the blue line
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/001_zpshmox66rt.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/001_zpshmox66rt.jpg.html)


I can you a pic of my setup if you like. With the help of a couple fellow excavator drivers, i was able to figure my plumbing out.

bigford
04-20-2015, 05:49 PM
sounds good to me!!! i need to get mine smoother then coopers cat

Cooper
04-20-2015, 06:39 PM
Well if that's how it is, make sure you connect all hoses from pump directly to cylinders and then use a toggle switch to activate the pump!! Should get the Rams screaming!! Lol!!!!

All kiddin aside, don't worry about getting them smooth, first get your pump and pressure settings how you want. Then use the limiting of your servo throws to (end points) adjust how far they open. That will allow the cylinder to be fed by less volume but same pressure. I forget where I have mine set but everyone will be different. Like boom down was almost 30% if I remember correct. Weight of bucket, stick, boom, and gravity help on the down. Any drifting should be one of two things, valve is not centered or compromised piston seal in cylinder. That was the problem I had with my stick cylinder, the piston came loose on the shaft and oil was bypassing the piston/seal allowing for drifting. But get the valves centered, pressure set, pump speed, prv ect before you try and smooth out movements. And most likely you don't have to have the pump screaming to make pretty good pressure. Really need a pressure gauge. Doesn't have to stay in model but for setting the pressure from time to time.

bigford
04-20-2015, 07:16 PM
I know ralph but if I cant pick on the Canadians then you will have to do!!!

speedy8305
04-22-2015, 01:02 AM
Hey from the photo the Kat looks like it was a good load on the trailer so much that the trailers rear tires came off the ground

bigford
04-22-2015, 06:41 AM
there are 3 screws per side going from the bed to
the rear deck that loosened up making the
rear axles lift under load...

speedy8305
04-22-2015, 07:47 PM
hey it looks good none the less

bigford
05-02-2015, 07:50 PM
well after messing with the cylinders I found them leaking under load
where the end cap screws into the body. I tried to seal them with pipe tape
and tightening them up but they still leak. new cylinder time
the valve body im still not sure about

rc_farmer
05-03-2015, 12:59 PM
Do you have the new cylinders? I have the new ones and have found them to leak as well. I going to HDepot and get some sealant and and maybe some new O-rings. If you tighten the caps, you will also find that the inlets are not centered either....

daddycool75
05-03-2015, 03:11 PM
I have the new cylinders, They leaked until I used Loctite 542, it seemed to hold.

I tried pipe tape at first, but no luck!!

But remember and have the screw holes lined up before the Loctite sets.

bigford
05-03-2015, 04:06 PM
tightening up the bottom cap puts the bottom inlet at 11:00
i'll try the loctite

bigford
05-03-2015, 04:30 PM
whats the difference between old and new and how do you tell them apart??
mine look like two rubber cups ontop of another. like the wedico piston
no O-rings

daddycool75
05-03-2015, 05:14 PM
http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o632/daddycool1975/Kat%20Excavator/IMG_1576_zps79d30a2d.jpg

This is the new cylinder.

daddycool75
05-03-2015, 05:19 PM
I all so tried to hard line my pipes, but there are to many leaks,
I think I will have to go back to plastic.
http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o632/daddycool1975/Kat%20Excavator/IMG_0364_zpskcdpm2qd.jpg

JAMMER
05-04-2015, 09:08 AM
Don't give up keep on trying they will be better than that plastic lines. If you don't get it at first keep trying that how you learn. Ed

cosworth34677
05-11-2015, 07:35 AM
Don't give up keep on trying they will be better than that plastic lines. If you don't get it at first keep trying that how you learn. Ed

yep what he said and the pipe work looks so good

daddycool75
05-13-2015, 04:09 PM
Which battery are you running in the KAT??
I was looking at this:
http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__44454__ZIPPY_Traxxas_8400mAh_3S1P_30C_Lipo_Pack_ Suits_TRA2878_UK_Warehouse_.html
What do you think??

bigford
05-14-2015, 06:07 AM
hey dad
did you add the black screws to the top of the cylinder in the pic?
mine look the same without the screws. that battery is half the
price of the venom 11.1 7500mah i bought

daddycool75
05-14-2015, 01:39 PM
Hi Bigford,
The black screws are original, that's the way it came.
what do you think of the battery?? should I try it??
cheers
Jamie

bigford
05-14-2015, 10:04 PM
Jamie this is the battery I bought
http://www.atomikrc.com/collections/venom-lipo-batteries/products/venom-lipo-battery-for-traxxas-slash-1-10-30c-11-1-7500mah-3s-with-uni-plug

paid $96.00 shipped

daddycool75
05-15-2015, 04:32 AM
Hi Bigford,
Did you get the morepower valve body?
If so what do you think of it!!
I'm think of ordering one as I have a puddle under the valve body every time I run mine.

cheers
Jamie

bigford
05-17-2015, 05:13 PM
I tried dealing with buychina and this was the result

Mark_Carr 2015-05-02 21:28

my valve body is leaking on this excavator. what is the warranty
as this machine is brand new
BuychinaSupport 2015-05-04 07:05

Dear Mark_Carr,
Sorry to hear that, we suggest you going to local shop to repair it.
Thanks for your understanding and support.
Best regards,
Buychina.com

cosworth34677
05-17-2015, 08:16 PM
wow!!!!!! i'd ship it back on that reply alone!

Kingcam2
05-18-2015, 06:05 AM
HI bigford,

I hope this helps you a little, this come from Page 9 of the China Kat Manual, I got my hand on a copy of the Kat manual in word format from buychina and translated it to english.

Letter to buyers:

1. Power reconcile the remote control and other electronic components should be strictly in accordance with its rated voltage to use, due to the risk of DIY , so the electric reconcile controlled burn in the conversion process, do not be replaced.

2. The hydraulic model is a complex system, electronic system is very easy because of misuse or heat is not good to burn, the Company does not cover electronic systems and remote control for hydraulic pumps, valves, and cylinders and other hydraulic components warranty 6 months. And non- modified, once the demolition of its own. Due to the complexity of the hydraulic system, an initial understanding of the hydraulic friends should be carried out under the guidance of professionals to install, research, multi- query data, more consultation seller, in order to achieve the purpose of proficiency.

Triumph company model department tel: 0536- 2171000 Taobao shop: Triumph Model

rc_farmer
05-18-2015, 11:37 AM
I got a similar reply from the same hydraulic issue with the valve block....roughly stated, "do the complexities of understanding, we suggest professional help, thank you for your understanding." I fired back that i was not complex and that i didn't need professional help, my shrink said so......Buychina is agent-based retailer for the actual manufactural, they have no idea what your talking about and can't provide any technical support.

mcCracken15
05-18-2015, 12:09 PM
Magom hrc has some good stuff and they keep getting better and better! Rams are just 50. USD and they can custom make any size and they have a lot to choose from. The recently upgraded their pumps to a brush less with relief valve and supposedly they have heating probs sobtheyvwent with the Jung pump. I have their newer brush less with pressure relief built in and haven't been able to use it yet but thanks to Freddy gear drive I built a sweet oil cooler out of an old heat sink. Personally I don't like their valves cause they bare so small 3mm nipples. So its going in my brothers high track. I spent the money and bought an RC 4wd valve really wish I haddnt but o well. Magom has been real good about emails and they ship from Spain to my door step here in Oregon in 6 days. RC 4wd is one state love and it takes weeks! So I think if your having problems at least try magom once you'll prob be happy at least with the rams and they come apart now instead of being soldered.

mcCracken15
05-18-2015, 12:11 PM
Sry about the misspelling I am using a mobile phone!

bigford
05-18-2015, 12:51 PM
I have a few things in the fire right now so the kat can wait. I just
wanted to see what my options were with these guys!!! I kinda knew
it was go scratch after we get money.. all in all the kat seems like a good machine
and will get up and dig

andyathome
05-19-2015, 10:29 AM
Just watched the youtube video.
typical kat, not enough power and radio settings not right.
bin the pump ( if it is a brushed , same as I got) swap out for a rc4wd setup. Valve bank and pump.
change up the radio settings and fit a relief valve. Replace all hoses and your digging.
rams may need some oil seals due to rubbish tolerances.
Not a knocker just answering a question from another forum.
I think you will be digging before I finnish mine.

cheers andy

daddycool75
06-05-2015, 01:43 PM
So I've took Andy's advice, I've order the Valve bank as already had the pump
Now I need to work out the radio settings!!

Any help would be appreciated on how to set the radio!!!

My radio is a turnigy 9x, it has a smartieparts board so I can flash software to it.

cheers
Jamie

Buster
06-07-2015, 08:18 PM
If you are using ER9X firmware with the Turnigy 9X then I can help you.
I can send you the radio settings for the RC4WD setup (with the relief valve)

http://i62.tinypic.com/24cv2aw.jpg

daddycool75
06-08-2015, 02:28 PM
That's the settings I had but, I set it up to normal mode again,

I can re flash it to ER 9X again. The settings would be good to have in ER mode.

thanks
Jamie

mcCracken15
06-27-2015, 02:05 AM
So what scale is the kat anyways? I think the site said 1/12? i was wonderimg cause i am wanting to biy a set of tracks but don't know whitch to buy. i belive the kat tracks are 50mm wide? Like an inch or so. that would be a nice fit on my ex. or i go buy magom tracks. they look nice. what's your opps?inion

bigford
11-09-2015, 10:32 PM
while waiting on some upgrade parts to arrive from PA!!!
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/under%20%20pan%20of%20kat_zpseer7z4el.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/under%20%20pan%20of%20kat_zpseer7z4el.jpg.html)

swapping out the kat cylinders for the rc4wd cylinders and larger hydro tank
the pinion gear loosened up

bigford
11-14-2015, 03:01 PM
still waiting on parts
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151114_135625_zpsv027n2ue.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151114_135625_zpsv027n2ue.jpg.html)
over sized hydro tank works well enough for testing LOL!!
has to be ready for the Canadian invasion

bigford
11-14-2015, 03:08 PM
king hauler seat and grand hauler driver
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/78d8192f-4e5d-4041-9adf-93a84cd62fa8_zpspiasu5xx.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/78d8192f-4e5d-4041-9adf-93a84cd62fa8_zpspiasu5xx.jpg.html)

Cooper
11-14-2015, 03:49 PM
Parts found:) lol!! With some real kitty kat krap!! Lol!! Will make time for visit to post office Monday.

Long story short,,,,,

Parts placed in usps bubble wrap bag,
Bag placed on golf cart waiting for trip to post office,
Wife cleaned,
Wife placed usps bag with parts in trash bag along with cat litter,
Trash bag placed in truck,
Truck went to dumpster,
Trash went into dumpster,
Rw looks for parts, can't find parts, asks wife where bag'o'parts got to,
Wife responds " I didn't touch them"
Some colorful conversations later,
Rw goes dumpster diving and finds parts!!

Luckily we don't get dumpster taken till Monday, and I found them!!!!

Cooper
11-14-2015, 03:50 PM
Forgot to add

PRICELESS!!!

Cooper
11-14-2015, 03:52 PM
Also forgot to add,,,
Can't find wife, anyone know where a good starting point to look would be???

bigford
11-14-2015, 04:29 PM
look in said dumpster

Bo Wallen
11-14-2015, 04:51 PM
Also forgot to add,,,
Can't find wife, anyone know where a good starting point to look would be???
She might hang with Mr Nutters in the forrest :lol:

bigford
11-14-2015, 05:34 PM
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/005_zps54kgkicg.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/005_zps54kgkicg.jpg.html)
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/003_zpsb8sq5jzk.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/003_zpsb8sq5jzk.jpg.html)
pump needs more power for dirt digging!! i think she will be a good sand ground rubber
digger still looks real nice parked for transport ( what i'm best at)
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/100_232820-20Copy_zps0rrdxg3d.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/100_232820-20Copy_zps0rrdxg3d.jpg.html)

bigford
12-04-2015, 11:07 PM
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151105_191849_zpsvbjvbmpz.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151105_191849_zpsvbjvbmpz.jpg.html)

bigford
12-08-2015, 08:43 PM
here joe a better pic of the insides for ya!!
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151208_192905_zpsbitw0pia.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151208_192905_zpsbitw0pia.jpg.html)
what a pos the old pump is compared to the new one
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151208_190807_zpsr0qka6sl.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151208_190807_zpsr0qka6sl.jpg.html)
one sexy pump LOL!! waiting on the new ESC
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151208_190756_zps7fzfckvr.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151208_190756_zps7fzfckvr.jpg.html)

mcCracken15
12-08-2015, 10:15 PM
I have an older magom pump. But am seriously thinking that this is the one for me also!

RCP57
12-08-2015, 10:43 PM
You wanna sell the old pump Mark?

Rimrock
12-09-2015, 02:34 AM
I have an older magom pump. But am seriously thinking that this is the one for me also!

Be aware of that this largest pump from Magom has a like 300-500% higher flow-rate than their small pumps (which was their only offer earlier). The motor speed can be turned down to a certain degree, but would not be ideal in a small sized machine like the Magom/Bruder Cat excavator for example

bigford
12-09-2015, 05:37 AM
good thing the kat is the size of the wedico 345

mcCracken15
12-09-2015, 10:08 PM
I have ordered custom rams and i have the rc4wd valve block and my ex is not a small one for sure! I went for 1\14 but winged it on most. But it is proportional and not to out of scale. Its my first and i have changed a lot threw the past year. But i love building it! Im not sure i will be operating it as much as i will be tinkering and building new parts for it.

mcCracken15
12-09-2015, 10:12 PM
My old pump is also the first one magom put a prv into. Which was the last one before the one you have. Im not sure how long it will last either. I havent even ran it and i pulled it apart to see if i can seperate the tank and the pump gear was eating into the housing i imagine it was from magom testing it

Lil Giants
12-10-2015, 10:27 PM
Looking much better Mark ;)
Find a bus bar yet?

bigford
12-10-2015, 10:58 PM
Not yet. Pulling my hair out with the esc.

Lil Giants
12-11-2015, 01:01 AM
Do you see a # stamped on that Jung pump? ...hopefully it's not located behind the tank... I wonder if it's 4001, which is Jung's smallest pump @0,15ml/rev.

RCP57
12-11-2015, 01:18 AM
It's supposed to be an HR7 I think which is bigger than what I have in my Volvo(HR5).

bigford
12-12-2015, 03:03 PM
after 3 days a few you tube videos i got the esc to work
https://youtu.be/VyH0N63AJbc

bigford
12-13-2015, 03:04 PM
my favorite place to see kats
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/100_2347_zpshgzwaw4f.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/100_2347_zpshgzwaw4f.jpg.html)
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/100_2345_zpsuhqobqek.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/100_2345_zpsuhqobqek.jpg.html)
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/100_2348_zpslepjlcq0.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/100_2348_zpslepjlcq0.jpg.html)

egronvold
12-13-2015, 03:34 PM
Beautiful rigs :)

bigford
12-13-2015, 03:53 PM
messing around with the kat and lowboy
https://youtu.be/TyMXsvFYCIQ

rc_farmer
12-21-2015, 10:55 AM
Did you get the pump all setup and running?

bigford
12-21-2015, 11:34 AM
testing and tuning is going good
operator sucks. im better at hauling them!!

Northern Farmer
12-21-2015, 01:11 PM
Fleet looks sweet! Nice lowboy :D

Bo Wallen
12-21-2015, 05:02 PM
testing and tuning is going good
operator sucks. im better at hauling them!!

Sweet BigFord ! Lets haul a$$ at CabinFever :lol:

bigford
12-22-2015, 09:27 PM
china kat has a new friend german cat LOL!!

https://youtu.be/Uxtft7b-WHg

Cooper
12-22-2015, 10:58 PM
Where did that come from? You been working on that for a little bit hu? I've been trapped in a family-in law holiday vortex,,, soon to be spun out and back to my single dwelling garage :)

bigford
12-22-2015, 11:00 PM
wacked it out in two hrs after coopering my fingers trying to open the cat up LOL

Lil Giants
12-22-2015, 11:16 PM
Track seems to make more noise going forward than reverse, is it the gear motor or the track hitting the fender?

bigford
12-23-2015, 12:11 AM
hey joe
the drive gear is just snug on the drive hub for now
its a work in progress. trying to kill the urge
to buy the rc4wd dozer for now LOL!!

bigford
12-24-2015, 07:05 PM
messing with the cat. only one firgelli (i love those things)
https://youtu.be/dbcoET9O5Z4?t=15

Lil Giants
12-24-2015, 08:41 PM
Just in time to use it for pushing presents out from under the tree to your respective family members. :D

bigford
12-24-2015, 08:57 PM
i was pushing the balls my dog knocked off the tree :lol:

bigford
12-27-2015, 10:55 PM
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/bruder%20d101_zpswy5cdqxj.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/bruder%20d101_zpswy5cdqxj.jpg.html)
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/bruder%20d102_zpsslvffn2e.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/bruder%20d102_zpsslvffn2e.jpg.html)
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/bruder%20d104_zpsidk6gurl.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/bruder%20d104_zpsidk6gurl.jpg.html)
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/bruder%20d103_zpsv3j5qo4k.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/bruder%20d103_zpsv3j5qo4k.jpg.html)
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w671/bigford550/bruder%20d105_zpsvrletbng.jpg (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/bigford550/media/bruder%20d105_zpsvrletbng.jpg.html)

needs some lead down bellow if i want to push wet sand. But should be good for rubber