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titandigs
06-19-2015, 09:03 PM
Hi Guys, the new 960 arrived on Wednesday,
I followed the tracking from Germany to Australia then picked it up from the airport.
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Most important cargo in a while:D
Should have bought a bigger truck:)
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The box is huge my car is a 200 series Landcruiser and I had to turn the box to fit it in.
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The finish on the model is fantastic and the service from Yvonne Hager, Berthold Oswald has be exceptional

thercfreak2012
06-19-2015, 09:14 PM
What a masterpiece it is http://www.defracto.eu/defracto/cms/Image/aktuelles/defracto_modell.jpg I love the set up with the brixl transmitter and the pulverizer attachment

avel
06-19-2015, 09:29 PM
Nice! What else did you get beside the actual excavator?

thebigo
06-19-2015, 10:52 PM
Was About to send you a PM, to ask you if you recieved it. glad you got it.. Did it come at about the time you expected it to come?

Mine will look just about like yours in color. I thought you were building yours from a kit huh, guess I was thinking of someone else.

Did you buy your Radio from them?

David

titandigs
06-19-2015, 11:12 PM
Nice! What else did you get beside the actual excavator?

Only the transmitter, need to save up again :D

titandigs
06-19-2015, 11:16 PM
Was About to send you a PM, to ask you if you recieved it. glad you got it.. Did it come at about the time you expected it to come?

Mine will look just about like yours in color. I thought you were building yours from a kit huh, guess I was thinking of someone else.

Did you buy your Radio from them?

David
Hi David,
I ordered in November last year, so it's about right for the delivery time quoted.
Normally I would have built it but we have a three day show soon so it was quicker to have it built.
The radio was supplied and setup, it is a Graupner mc-32 pro

apfubar
06-20-2015, 08:21 AM
Congrats... Very nice! Does it have the hydraulic quick hitch?

Let me know if you need a hand with the Tx...

Cheers,
AP

Rakthi
06-20-2015, 11:10 AM
WOW! It really looks good in those colours! Very nice machine!

titandigs
06-20-2015, 10:01 PM
Congrats... Very nice! Does it have the hydraulic quick hitch?

Let me know if you need a hand with the Tx...

Cheers,
AP

Yes it does have the Quick hitch and the extra valves for the hammer, grab

ricm
06-20-2015, 11:02 PM
:bounce:

pricey I am sure...but the quality is immediately apparent. Way to go..!

Can you give an idea in AUD of total price inc. shipping? PM me? Am thinking of getting one....probably in kit form though :)

titandigs
06-21-2015, 01:13 AM
:bounce:

pricey I am sure...but the quality is immediately apparent. Way to go..!

Can you give an idea in AUD of total price inc. shipping? PM me? Am thinking of getting one....probably in kit form though :)

PM sent

titandigs
06-21-2015, 05:37 AM
Took a short video in between the rain today.
https://youtu.be/lo5h44y7hng

Valdosetti
06-21-2015, 11:06 PM
Hi Titandigs, what a great model! Congrats! You have made a great choice. Premacon 960 SME is a great looking and well made machine. Does yours excavator came with with single or double hydraulic pump? ( I heard that premacon is using doubles on bigger models)
Regards; Setti

titandigs
06-22-2015, 08:01 AM
Hi Titandigs, what a great model! Congrats! You have made a great choice. Premacon 960 SME is a great looking and well made machine. Does yours excavator came with with single or double hydraulic pump? ( I heard that premacon is using doubles on bigger models)
Regards; Setti
Thanks Setti,
My understanding is that it has a single 900mls per min pump. It looks the same as another I have.
Paul

Rimrock
06-23-2015, 04:31 AM
Great machine, have fun) Out of curiosity, are there many people into the RC truck&construction hobby Down Under? Like some few hundereds, or several 1000?)

titandigs
06-23-2015, 08:53 AM
Great machine, have fun) Out of curiosity, are there many people into the RC truck&construction hobby Down Under? Like some few hundereds, or several 1000?)
Our club has about 20 active members, I would only be guessing, I would say less than 200 in total???:confused::confused:
If I am way off the mark I am sure others will let us know:)

liftmys10
06-24-2015, 02:39 AM
Lucky you! Enjoy it and post tons of videos! Did you add the sound module later or or did you buy it as an option?

Valdosetti
06-24-2015, 07:41 AM
Thank You for the reply Paul. It moves so smooth!!! You just made my mind, I got have one of those!! Lol. Videos will never be enough for us. Keep send them ������

titandigs
06-24-2015, 08:53 AM
Lucky you! Enjoy it and post tons of videos! Did you add the sound module later or or did you buy it as an option?
The sound module was ordered as a fitted option, it has three switches to operate it. I am still trying to figure the correct positions for constant sound.

liftmys10
06-25-2015, 04:35 PM
Thanks, can you get an accurate weight of the machine with battery?

titandigs
06-27-2015, 07:25 AM
Thanks, can you get an accurate weight of the machine with battery?

With two 3500mah lipos weighs 22kg compared to the Wedico 345 12.6kg

liftmys10
06-28-2015, 12:07 PM
With two 3500mah lipos weighs 22kg compared to the Wedico 345 12.6kg

Thank you. I wonder if your scale might be showing less? Wedico claims 14kg and premacon claims 26-27 kg +
Either way that's impressive weight difference between the 2 machines. :)

Stefan
07-01-2015, 01:33 PM
Hi Paul,
Very nice new toy! A bit light-weight maybe ;). Seems doggie was checking out you weren´t stealing no bones, or maybe wondering why you are allowed to dig :D
Stefan

titandigs
07-05-2015, 11:50 PM
Hi Paul,
Very nice new toy! A bit light-weight maybe ;). Seems doggie was checking out you weren´t stealing no bones, or maybe wondering why you are allowed to dig :D
Stefan

Hey Stefan,
Yes only had a very small lipo inside, 200g maybe, it can fit a battery up to about 900g. And the dogs are 7/12 month old Golden retrievers, man they can out dig anything I have and in very short time.

Erik79
07-09-2015, 06:23 PM
Hi Paul,:)

my compliments, this machine is great like we saw in Friedericshaven last year together. The appearance and the smoothness of movements are the most evident features.
I am interested to see the translation ability with the wheels and the shoes full of earth, have you already done this extreme test?

Video, video!:D

Enrico

liftmys10
07-11-2015, 10:45 PM
Did you have to pay extra for the radio setup or is it included with the assembly of the 960 granted you purchase the radio from them?

titandigs
07-12-2015, 10:00 AM
Did you have to pay extra for the radio setup or is it included with the assembly of the 960 granted you purchase the radio from them?
I think 50 Euros, will need to check the invoice

titandigs
07-12-2015, 10:05 AM
Hi Paul,:)

my compliments, this machine is great like we saw in Friedericshaven last year together. The appearance and the smoothness of movements are the most evident features.
I am interested to see the translation ability with the wheels and the shoes full of earth, have you already done this extreme test?

Video, video!:D

Enrico
Hello Enrico,
Its only been in the dirt twice :o, busy with making the D11 run.
More videos to come later.

titandigs
07-27-2015, 07:52 AM
We had our three day show last weekend and this machine was used every day for at least 4 hours each day. Although the digging material was light the machine ran like a Swiss Clock, this has to be the finest machine around.
https://youtu.be/8XnmQ6vOp8Y

liftmys10
08-05-2015, 02:11 AM
Any more videos of the beast? Maybe digging harder dirt?

Stuart
08-21-2015, 03:50 PM
Congratulations Paul on a mighty fine purchase!
The Premacon models are fanatstic.

I'm about to send you a pm;)

chris1210
08-21-2015, 04:01 PM
What a beautiful machine, congratulations

titandigs
08-22-2015, 10:15 AM
What a beautiful machine, congratulations

Thank you, I am very Happy with it.

TonyB
11-21-2015, 06:21 AM
Hi there love the Leibherr. I just want to say I am going to join the club of owning one titandigs . How is your machine going?

thebigo
11-25-2015, 09:37 AM
Be ready to wait for a long time, I have been waiting for 10+ months? They said they are waiting on my bristle transmitter to be shipped to them (Premacon)? I think titan digs got his right around 8 months, but mine for some reason is taking much longer?

Rimrock
11-26-2015, 01:22 PM
The Brixl is the 'top of the line' radio for functional models, popular in Germany for advanced modellers. There is now another option for a radio with the same convenient 3D sticks; Servonaut HS12. German made. More than enough channels for a excavator and most models, to nearly half the price of the Brixl.

thebigo
11-26-2015, 02:20 PM
The Brixl is the 'top of the line' radio for functional models, popular in Germany for advanced modellers. There is now another option for a radio with the same convenient 3D sticks; Servonaut HS12. German made. More than enough channels for a excavator and most models, to nearly half the price of the Brixl.

What about he spectrum series transmitters? I am looking for somthing to replace my xl4200, chinese transmitter?

Rimrock
11-26-2015, 06:20 PM
What about he spectrum series transmitters? I am looking for somthing to replace my xl4200, chinese transmitter?

Yeah, the Spectrum series, with at least 7 channels, would do the job too. There are many using them for excavators I guess. An advantage with the original xl4200 radio is one got those quite handy custom made handle bars for the track motor channels, and they are connected to potentiometers, not 3 way switches if I remember correctly, (that gets you just max speed/off drive of the tracks)
On the more expensive radios with the big 3D sticks on just twist them left/right, potentiometer, for operating the track engines. (If I was investing in a expensive machine as Premacon I guess I would evaluate going for a high end radio)

Lil Giants
11-26-2015, 07:30 PM
I guess it depends on how one would prefer to hold & operate the radio... I much rather use my thumbs vs thumb & finger, cant' do that with those tray radios.

If you're gonna go Spektrum, then go with the DX9; the 7 won't work for excavator & the 8 not very well.

Snowman3725
12-10-2015, 11:49 PM
If I remember correctly I saw somewhere it's roughly 76 lbs RTR

Snowman3725
12-10-2015, 11:50 PM
If I remember correctly I saw somewhere it's roughly 76 lbs RTR + battery

TonyB
12-13-2015, 09:21 AM
The Brixl is the 'top of the line' radio for functional models, popular in Germany for advanced modellers. There is now another option for a radio with the same convenient 3D sticks; Servonaut HS12. German made. More than enough channels for a excavator and most models, to nearly half the price of the Brixl.

Scaleart Commander Sa5000 . Is the top of the line mate.
I have one .beautiful radio

TonyB
12-13-2015, 09:23 AM
Be ready to wait for a long time, I have been waiting for 10+ months? They said they are waiting on my bristle transmitter to be shipped to them (Premacon)? I think titan digs got his right around 8 months, but mine for some reason is taking much longer?

Hi buddy, I oredered mine in March. It will be ready this month. December.
Have u got yours yet?

thebigo
12-13-2015, 08:38 PM
Ordered mine January 15th still haven't recieved mine Yet?? They keep giving me the excuse that they are waiting on delivery of the Brixl radio. Did you order the brixl radio?

David

TonyB
12-13-2015, 11:52 PM
Hi have u payed for it yet?
No I decided to go the Scaleart Commander SA5000 radio. It's a beauti.

avel
12-14-2015, 01:33 AM
Are you having them set the radio up for you? Can they just ship you the model and then the transmitter later?

Just curious as I am wanting a 956 too, but these kind of issues make me hesitant to put that much money down so quickly.

Northern Farmer
12-14-2015, 03:14 AM
One year wait ? :eek:

TonyB
12-14-2015, 04:01 AM
Are you having them set the radio up for you? Can they just ship you the model and then the transmitter later?

Just curious as I am wanting a 956 too, but these kind of issues make me hesitant to put that much money down so quickly.

Yes I'm just getting the excavator with out a remote. They said it is easy to install the servos as they are all labeled.

No they are very professional. Ur money is safe. They have a paypal account u pay too.

avel
12-14-2015, 07:33 AM
I bought my Carson LR634 and the hydraulics from Premacon. I wish I could speak/read German. I get confused as to what all I should order for a ready to go model.

Rimrock
12-14-2015, 07:58 AM
I bought my Carson LR634 and the hydraulics from Premacon. I wish I could speak/read German. I get confused as to what all I should order for a ready to go model.

I guess there is no doubt that Premcaon has translated all relevant information on their web page to english, but on the other hand it sometimes can be difficult to know all parts one need to order. But if in doubt one need to ask them up front what is needed to be included, they know English at the service desk of course

TonyB
12-14-2015, 09:53 AM
I bought my Carson LR634 and the hydraulics from Premacon. I wish I could speak/read German. I get confused as to what all I should order for a ready to go model.

There's an English button on the page. Top right. Little flag .
And YVonne speaks ok English

thebigo
12-15-2015, 02:41 PM
Just got contacted by Yvonne, they are ready to ship, they are just getting the shipping charges together, have already paid for the excavator, once I pay the shipping then hopefully they will ship?

David

bigpipespete
12-15-2015, 04:20 PM
I have purchased two machines from Premacon in the last couple years and I can honestly tell you they are fantastic people to deal with. The wait time is well worth it when you see the quality of the workmanship and the detail of the machines. I dealt with Yvonne and her professionalism is a big part of why I ordered a second machine from them.

bigpipespete
12-15-2015, 04:30 PM
Congratulations on your beautiful looking excavator. You made a wise decision buying that machine.

chris1210
12-16-2015, 03:21 AM
Yes I'm just getting the excavator with out a remote. They said it is easy to install the servos as they are all labeled.

No they are very professional. Ur money is safe. They have a paypal account u pay too.

Hey Tony, it's nice to see you here, buddy :-)
You will have difficult time setting up your SA-5000 with your new excavator because ScaleArt provides a very basic manual. The menu options in commander is totally different compare to other radios on the markets.

TonyB
12-17-2015, 09:51 AM
Hey Tony, it's nice to see you here, buddy :-)
You will have difficult time setting up your SA-5000 with your new excavator because ScaleArt provides a very basic manual. The menu options in commander is totally different compare to other radios on the markets.

Na peace of piss Chris. To easy mate,

TonyB
12-17-2015, 09:52 AM
Just got contacted by Yvonne, they are ready to ship, they are just getting the shipping charges together, have already paid for the excavator, once I pay the shipping then hopefully they will ship?

David

HI David that's great mate, yee haa. I can share the happiness as I just got contacted tonight about my excavator been shipped next week, yes I hear Ya. Happy days.

thebigo
12-17-2015, 05:50 PM
Congrat's Tony, mines shipping next week as well. Guess we will be showing off on the site soon.

What options did you get? Mine will be loaded with the cab display, but I didn't get sound, maybe a mistake, I don't know?

TonyB
12-17-2015, 10:51 PM
Congrat's Tony, mines shipping next week as well. Guess we will be showing off on the site soon.

What options did you get? Mine will be loaded with the cab display, but I didn't get sound, maybe a mistake, I don't know?

Hi David. I got the Advanced assembled 960 SME with sound module. Hydraulic quick hitch. Special Colour.
Light kit. Scale package. Wide bucket with steel teeth. HD bucket with steel teeth. Ripper,
Orange rotating beacon.
No display though. Scaleart are working on a new display for the Sa5000

I'm happy for you as well. Congrats, mate. We will both have them at the same time.

David here my email. Please email me.
toebright@me.com

thebigo
12-17-2015, 11:41 PM
advanced assembled 960 SME, hydraulic quick hitch, special color, light kit, scale package and wide bucket with steel teeth, grapple.

Thank's bud, i will be contacting you, here is my email.
bigo326@live.com

TonyB
12-17-2015, 11:44 PM
To all that are active in the RC Construction,
I have made a facebook page , closed group.
There's only 7 members. But we all have amazing models.
It's called.. Brisbane 1/14 RC construction. Google it. U will find it.
Must post pics and be active please.

ptebbe
12-17-2015, 11:46 PM
Wow! really great models. I'm happy to see that because I ordered a 944 from Premacon back in April....might ship in February per Yvonne. I debated back and forth between the 944 and one of the larger models.
I ordered the same colors....gray & white....looks fabulous!
I decided to try the Servonaut HS12 radio, but I had to order from GearDoctor because Premacon doesn't sell it (yet.) I think it will be a good match and has a pretty detailed manual available in English. Brixl I think, does not. (although the Brixl in-model display is too cool!)

Question for those of you in the USA....Yvonne told me I HAD to run oil specified as HLP-22. I cannot find a supplier that will sell it in less than a 5 gallon drum (for $200.) What oil are guys running and from what supplier?
thanks!
Keep the info coming. The wait is long but it keeps me going.
Paul

thebigo
12-17-2015, 11:56 PM
Hi Paul,
I am running Shell tellus s-22 in my xl4200, dump truck and Loader. I just bought the 5 gallon, and I am sure i will use alot of it because I change it alot. I think the distributer is F+L patrolium.

David

TonyB
12-18-2015, 01:42 AM
advanced assembled 960 SME, hydraulic quick hitch, special color, light kit, scale package and wide bucket with steel teeth, grapple.

Thank's bud, i will be contacting you, here is my email.
bigo326@live.com

Hi David.mnice mate u got a great machine as well, yes u should of got the sound module. Has a horn etc included.

Yes be great to hear from you.
We can swap ideas. Paul .. . who started this thread is there as well, he has a lot on info. On the Premacon excavator
Facebook. Brisbane 1/14 RC construction.

TonyB
12-18-2015, 01:45 AM
Wow! really great models. I'm happy to see that because I ordered a 944 from Premacon back in April....might ship in February per Yvonne. I debated back and forth between the 944 and one of the larger models.
I ordered the same colors....gray & white....looks fabulous!
I decided to try the Servonaut HS12 radio, but I had to order from GearDoctor because Premacon doesn't sell it (yet.) I think it will be a good match and has a pretty detailed manual available in English. Brixl I think, does not. (although the Brixl in-model display is too cool!)

Question for those of you in the USA....Yvonne told me I HAD to run oil specified as HLP-22. I cannot find a supplier that will sell it in less than a 5 gallon drum (for $200.) What oil are guys running and from what supplier?
thanks!
Keep the info coming. The wait is long but it keeps me going.
Paul

That's fantastic Paul nice machine, and will be interesting who the Sevonaut HS12 goes, looks very nice, good question, as I was wondering about the oil, as to of o can get the Hydraulic oil here in Australia, I am using Hydraulic Jack oil for my RC Bulldozer that works a treat.

ptebbe
12-19-2015, 11:49 PM
Thanks for the info.

Can anyone compare the 956/960 to the 944 basic and the 944 Demo?
I know the 956/960 are really larage and heavy, and I really don't think I want one that big. I mainly want to dig and be able to attach different shovels and the grapple. No desire to attach the long Demo arm. I was told that the Demo is heavier and the tracks are both wider and longer. Are there any other differences? Any other reason I should reconsider and order the Demo version instead of the 944 "Basic option"?
thanks
Paul

Rimrock
12-20-2015, 03:22 AM
The 944 Demo is a speciality machine set up for use of the demolition arm, and comes with a backhoe attachment as well ('to reduce downtime when there are no demolition tasks';) ). It has a bigger and heavier undercarriage for more stability while working with the demolition attachment, which naturally is a plus when only using the backhoe equipment too. I guess this machine is more of an 'german spesiality' when it comes to RC models and not that many are sold compared to the standard excavators.
The 944 basic has a undercarriage matching it's backhoe attachment, and will 'do the job') If on wish a larger capacity machine, then there are the 956/960's. They had up to recent years only the 944 in the product line, which is a 'small' model. A demand grew for larger machines, so the 956/960 was developed (The 956/960 I would guess are about the size of the rc4wd xl4200, without any further comparison, while the 944 is a smaller machine)

thebigo
12-20-2015, 08:30 PM
Thanks for the info.

Can anyone compare the 956/960 to the 944 basic and the 944 Demo?
I know the 956/960 are really larage and heavy, and I really don't think I want one that big. I mainly want to dig and be able to attach different shovels and the grapple. No desire to attach the long Demo arm. I was told that the Demo is heavier and the tracks are both wider and longer. Are there any other differences? Any other reason I should reconsider and order the Demo version instead of the 944 "Basic option"?
thanks
Paul

I ordered the 960 because weight is very important especially when digging in dirt.
The 960 is almost 50 lbs 22kg, the xl4200 is probably half that weight,

David

thebigo
12-20-2015, 08:35 PM
My XL4200 easily pulls itself accross the groung while digging, and you need to keep the bucket teeth just skimming the top of the dirt.

weight is very important

Rimrock
12-21-2015, 08:33 AM
I ordered the 960 because weight is very important especially when digging in dirt.
The 960 is almost 50 lbs 22kg, the xl4200 is probably half that weight,

David

Great choice, that's a really fine machine (and even a bit heavier than you mention I guess) One need the correct relation between weight, size of bucket and power, that's the general idea. The high end models follows that idea quite well, no matter size. Oh, in the case of xl4200, I must correct you a bit, it's more like 40-45 lbs, it's got the stability and weight IMO, but struggle with other issues.

titandigs
12-27-2015, 05:41 AM
Wow! really great models. I'm happy to see that because I ordered a 944 from Premacon back in April....might ship in February per Yvonne. I debated back and forth between the 944 and one of the larger models.
I ordered the same colors....gray & white....looks fabulous!
I decided to try the Servonaut HS12 radio, but I had to order from GearDoctor because Premacon doesn't sell it (yet.) I think it will be a good match and has a pretty detailed manual available in English. Brixl I think, does not. (although the Brixl in-model display is too cool!)

Question for those of you in the USA....Yvonne told me I HAD to run oil specified as HLP-22. I cannot find a supplier that will sell it in less than a 5 gallon drum (for $200.) What oil are guys running and from what supplier?
thanks!
Keep the info coming. The wait is long but it keeps me going.
Paul
Hi Paul,
I am in Australia and the HLP-22 was a bit hard to find as its not the standard hydraulic oil. I also had to buy 20ltrs, think of how much this model has cost and the recommendation of what to run. $200 compared to what it may cost to fix up the problems for running the wrong oil. The thicker the oil the slower the machine will run and the pump will need to work harder to pump the thicker oil.
My 960 runs like a Swiss watch with the HLP-22
Just my 2 cents
Cheers Paul

thebigo
12-30-2015, 11:47 PM
Paul, (Titandigs), is right. I am going to research and find out if my oil is acceptable or not, it's a very expensive machine.

David

Rimrock
12-31-2015, 04:52 AM
If not having the grade 22 oil at hand, it's better to chose a ticker variant, like grade 32 which is more common and can be bought in small containers. (There might be some mechanical shops / industry in your local area that purchase the GLP22 in barrels and other big containers, that might let you buy some small quantity if one check around)
One should naturally in general follow Premacon, and other suppliers, advice when it comes to oil grade, but on a scale model with industrial standard hardened steel pump and valves there should be no big reason to have sleepless nights if operating with a thicker oil for a periode, IMO.

The fabricator of the pump that Premacon, and some others use, Jung, actually give grade 46 as the standard in the data sheets, which is one of the most common used grades in the 1:1 life. I would think that due to the small channels in valves and pipes/hoses used in scale modelling, on have to compromise and choose lighter oils in order to get a better fluid flow and reduce power consummation. Maybe an issue here is the risk of wearing out the pump motor, rather than ruin any of the hydraulic components, when using a thicker oil, and less motor wear with the thinner oil.
Someone should ask Premacon what could go wrong if not going for the grade 22)

JAMMER
12-31-2015, 12:48 PM
I use Cat hydraulic oil in my Jung pump with no problems it is a thin oil. Ed

ptebbe
12-31-2015, 07:24 PM
I think that the lower viscosity oil flows easier thru a model's smaller hoses and connectors and therefore works the pump less and also increases efficiency. Longevity of the pump might also be affected.
As far as warrantee, Premacon might also only honor the pump warrantee if you're using the correct oil as per the manufacturer's recommendations, in my case 22 wt oil. (Specifically for the 944 model....the 956 or 960 might use different oil if the pump is different, and I think it is.)
For those in the USA, RC4WD now sells 15 and 22 weight "anti-wear" hydraulic oils in 16oz containers. Expensive, but better than paying for a 5 gallon drum.
Paul

titandigs
12-31-2015, 09:21 PM
I think that the lower viscosity oil flows easier thru a model's smaller hoses and connectors and therefore works the pump less and also increases efficiency. Longevity of the pump might also be affected.
As far as warrantee, Premacon might also only honor the pump warrantee if you're using the correct oil as per the manufacturer's recommendations, in my case 22 wt oil. (Specifically for the 944 model....the 956 or 960 might use different oil if the pump is different, and I think it is.)
For those in the USA, RC4WD now sells 15 and 22 weight "anti-wear" hydraulic oils in 16oz containers. Expensive, but better than paying for a 5 gallon drum.
Paul

I agree, with the flow and pump efficiency comments.
I look at it this way, I spend 38 Euros ($50 plus shipping from Germany say $75 total) for a Pistonking flashing led beacon. It does nothing but add Sh*^#!t and glitter, on the other hand the oil for a bit more brings this machine to life.:D

avel
12-31-2015, 10:06 PM
I don't have a Premacon machine or a Jung pump, but I have a LR634 with Leimbach hydraulics. After the the included oil almost ran out i switched to some 32w oil and it seemed like it had waaaayyyy more power. So much so that I could of stayed with a 2S battery instead of a 3S. I limited the pump a whole bunch in the radio settings. As for the pump working harder, I have a fan blowing over it to keep it nice and cool.

titandigs
01-03-2016, 06:35 AM
Had a small meeting yesterday and got it out for run.
https://youtu.be/LFWctFwpbSo

thebigo
01-07-2016, 01:06 AM
Had a small meeting yesterday and got it out for run.
https://youtu.be/LFWctFwpbSo

Is that your Wedico Paul? One of these dumpers, not sure if it will be Wedico or Premacon is what will be my next buy.

David

dozerbuilder
01-07-2016, 03:01 AM
To all that are active in the RC Construction,
I have made a facebook page , closed group.
There's only 7 members. But we all have amazing models.
It's called.. Brisbane 1/14 RC construction. Google it. U will find it.
Must post pics and be active please.

Well, I live in Brisbane and I'm building a 1/16th dozer with tilt blade and 4x barrel ripper and RC construction is my hobby. I'd be interested in connecting up with the group locally but I see it's 1/14th scale - does that count other scale builds out? The other thing is I don't do facebook, twitter alibaba and all that, I don't have the time for a social media lifestyle and with the exception of RT&C - my spare time is devoted to making my RC model and any web time I do have spare, goes right here to RT&C. Are you planning on doing anything on the ground locally like getting a boots on the ground group going, RC construction field days or anything, or is it gonna be just a facebook thingy.

liftmys10
01-08-2016, 12:47 AM
To the few that ordered from USA, did you have to pay sales tax that customs might charge? I remember looking into purchasing one but didnt pull the trigger because I wasnt sure how much the sales tax was going to be since premacon doest not include VAT when they sell it over the pond. Can you share with us regarding sales tax and shipping cost? Thanks.

Rimrock
01-08-2016, 04:41 AM
I'm not in the US, but I guess one naturally need to pay your home state's sales tax/VAT, as you do with everything else, food, clothes..But it's 5-10%, like 'nothing'? In Europe we have 20-25%, so it's a bit above;) But on the other hand freight is a bit lower.

TonyB
01-09-2016, 08:52 PM
Well, I live in Brisbane and I'm building a 1/16th dozer with tilt blade and 4x barrel ripper and RC construction is my hobby. I'd be interested in connecting up with the group locally but I see it's 1/14th scale - does that count other scale builds out? The other thing is I don't do facebook, twitter alibaba and all that, I don't have the time for a social media lifestyle and with the exception of RT&C - my spare time is devoted to making my RC model and any web time I do have spare, goes right here to RT&C. Are you planning on doing anything on the ground locally like getting a boots on the ground group going, RC construction field days or anything, or is it gonna be just a facebook thingy.

Hi mate. The facebook thing is for advise, place to buy and sell.
Just a way to get us all together where ever u are in the world.
That's great u live in Brisbane, nice no 1/16 doesn't matter, as long as u can push dirt from the trucks that bring it to you.
We havnt really got a club yet. But let's try make one.
Please email me. Toebright@ymail.com
Or ring 0439763555. I Live at yatla.

dozerbuilder
01-10-2016, 03:50 AM
Hi mate. The facebook thing is for advise, place to buy and sell.
Just a way to get us all together where ever u are in the world.
That's great u live in Brisbane, nice no 1/16 doesn't matter, as long as u can push dirt from the trucks that bring it to you.
We havnt really got a club yet. But let's try make one.
Please email me. Toebright@ymail.com
Or ring 0439763555. I Live at yatla.


Hi Tony. Thanks for your reply. Yeah well I'll be in for trying to get something going here in terms of a local RC T&C group. I'll be in touch.

Cheers

thebigo
01-10-2016, 02:31 PM
I'm not in the US, but I guess one naturally need to pay your home state's sales tax/VAT, as you do with everything else, food, clothes..But it's 5-10%, like 'nothing'? In Europe we have 20-25%, so it's a bit above;) But on the other hand freight is a bit lower.

Hi Rimrock,

No sales tax just duties tax in the US. Unless you live in a state that requires sales tax on every thing bought sold over the Internet.

David

titandigs
06-12-2016, 05:06 AM
New video of the 960 and my D11 working together filling the dog holes
https://youtu.be/29DdjQUjWQU