RC4WD 4200XL models and nomenclature?

[TheBennyB]

Ok, i've been reading all kinds of posts on this and other forums and have some questions. This is my first hydraulic r/c so please be patient on my novice questions if you don't mind. This all may be on me but it seems there are some discrepancies on models and equipment. I supposedly have the version 1.5 but have read some have a 4th servo for a "spillage valve?" Mine only has 3 servo's for the booms and bucket. The rotary knob above the left stick does nothing, neither does switching the 3 pos switch above the right stick off of N. My serial number is on the under carriage not in the operators cabin. The endpoint for the pump motor is set at 30% from factory. My lights have the exterior switch and can't be turned on via TX. Also mine came with spring loaded idler wheels. How does this compare to other newly acquired version 1.5's I was wondering? Also, 30% on the pump motor seems a bit high. What are the rest of you running at? Thanks for any input.

[schmoking]

vers. 1.5 is suposed to have 4 valves... the 4th valve is mixed in on the tx so it closes when you use the boom`s and bucket, and open when youre not so the oil can circulate back into the tank.
version 1 only had three valves, that caused some leaking issues with all the pressure on closed valves.

this is the vers. 1.5 valveblock... http://store.rc4wd.com/Hydraulic-Valve-Block-Version-15_p_1832.html

i have a diffrent pump motor in mine, but if i remember right i think i heard others say they have it set to 23% or 24%.

[TheBennyB]

That's what I thought. I have the 1.5 block but no forth servo. Yet another failure from rc4wd quality control. I've read some like the control of the 4 servo from the TX and others think it's more to go wrong, any new opinions since it's been out for a while now?
I've got plenty of servo's laying around so I could put one in at anytime if people are really liking the control and may help with leaks, reliability, etc.

[TheBennyB]

Well I was wrong. I do have the version 1.0 3 valve block. I was told I would be receiving the 1.5 and it does have the exterior light swich and bec for the boom lights. Not sure whats going on with this machine, guess it's a version 1.2. Going to see if RC4WD will send me a 1.5 conversion block and servo out of their wallet as I was told I would be getting the 1.5. I've emailed them so guess we'll see what they say about it.

[Northern Farmer]

Question did your order directly from Eagle or RC4WD ? I wonder if dealers are converting the first version themselves to 1.5, forgetting things along the way in the process ?

[TheBennyB]

I orderd directly from RC4WD. Interesting that I have 1.5 lighting but 1.0 block. Also gear aux on TX is still set up to turn lights on/off. How long has 1.5 been available? Odd to still be converting and not starting with the 1.5 block unless they have a bunch of 1.0's laying around hence the price drop? Its not a huge deal breaker, hoe will still operate. Just don't like getting jerked around and I'm hoping to get the 1.5 block upgrade on their dime then convert if I want at a later time.

[TheBennyB]

Interesting thought Farmer. You thinking RC4WD may be upgrading 1.0's to 1.5's on their own? Thinking it would of come from CA rather than HK unless the CA address is just a north american office? Either way as long as they agree to send me the 1.5 block upgrade I'm good with it. Just want to get digging!

[Northern Farmer]

RC4WD should definitely supply you with correct 1.5 version parts at their cost. Their advertising the 1.5 version for sale on their website and that's what you should be getting when buying one.

[Northern Farmer]

Interesting thought Farmer. You thinking RC4WD may be upgrading 1.0's to 1.5's on their own? Thinking it would of come from CA rather than HK unless the CA address is just a north american office? Either way as long as they agree to send me the 1.5 block upgrade I'm good with it. Just want to get digging!

Yeah mine came straight from Hong Kong but I ordered directly from Eagle on Aliexpress. It would make sense from the dealers point of view rather then being stuck with old inventory...pass it off as new and improved. Who know's though ?

[TheBennyB]

So according to rc4wd I have the latest version 1.5 and it has a new 3 valve
block system. They also mentioned they are no longer shipping the 1.5 with a 4 valve block but can still be bought separately until they are out of inventory.

[Northern Farmer]

Good to know! :cool:

[schmoking]

thats weird... not to impressed with rc4wd on this. i looked at their site and from what i can see the only thing they mention about this is that the 1.5 valveblock is now listed as an optional upgrade for the 1.5 excavator?!?!
so is this just the old vers. 1 valveblock they now use? (i would guess so.. since they list 1.5 vers. as an upgrade). thumbs down for rc4wd!!! guess thats where some of the price reduction came from...

[TheBennyB]

Just got an email from rc4wd asking where I heard about 1.5's being shipped with the 4 valve block. I told them I was informed by various owners on various forums and even the manual states to not move the aux switch "N" or it will change default settings of the pump. They are now saying they may upgrade existing 1.5's on a case to case basis. So now let's see what they come back with. If nothing else, all this run around is kinda interesting in just seeing how these jokers are handling this.

[RCP57]

What a joke! Sounds like they are trying to scam people by selling the old version but if you are smart enough to figure it out then they will give you the upgrade. LAME! I hope they give you the upgraded parts but it still sucks. You buy the latest version you should get the latest version upon delivery not after weeks of emails and time spent trying to twist their nipples.

[Northern Farmer]

And here's the internals on mne
http://i67.tinypic.com/v2qjkh.jpg

[Northern Farmer]

Wtf won't be dealing with RC4WD regarding Eagle's products. Guess I was right, they are trying to pass off the first version as the current one! That's hella shady! Going to continue buying directly from Eagle.

[TheBennyB]

Yea, I usually give a strike or 2 to vendors before getting on them but this is really getting out of hand. If it comes to it do u mind if I send them the pic of yours Farmer?

[schmoking]

so... first they tell you it has a new 3 valve block system and they are no longer shipping the 1.5 with a 4 valve block, then they ask you where you heard about 1.5's being shipped with the 4 valve block???
i thought rc4wd was a decent company... did they change owners or something? i been saving up to buy the wheel loader from them, sure not gonna happen now!!!

[alaskantoy]

Just wanted to tell you that you're not alone. Dealing with this exact issue as we speak. Mine was shipped about a month ago and now im trying to get it up and running and ran into the three valve vs four valve block issues. Im waiting to hear back but my immediate reply to their 2 day reply definitely slows this down. Good luck........ as it seems we both need it and many more may as well

[TheBennyB]

Just wanted to tell you that you're not alone. Dealing with this exact issue as we speak. Mine was shipped about a month ago and now im trying to get it up and running and ran into the three valve vs four valve block issues. Im waiting to hear back but my immediate reply to their 2 day reply definitely slows this down. Good luck........ as it seems we both need it and many more may as well

Glad to hear I'm not alone on this but also discouraged it's happening at a frequency now. Let us know how you fare and I'll keep updating as well. Does yours have spring loaded idlers?

[Northern Farmer]

Yea, I usually give a strike or 2 to vendors before getting on them but this is really getting out of hand. If it comes to it do u mind if I send them the pic of yours Farmer?

Sure Benny it ain't a problem use the picture, anything to help a member out. Have you contacted Tang about the issues your experiencing with one of their dealers ?

Eaglemach@foxmail.com

[alaskantoy]

I just received an email stating I received the "updated" valve hydro block. still having issues with slow movement, and the hydro lines loosening up and causing leaks and sucking in air.

[Rimrock]

I just received an email stating I received the "updated" valve hydro block. still having issues with slow movement, and the hydro lines loosening up and causing leaks and sucking in air.

Slow movement is likely due to air in the system. Too low oil level in the tank. I don't have a quick, good 'non messy' way of emptying the system for air, but maybe others have? Theoretically the air should come out by running all cylinders in and out enough times, having the tank filled up to proper level at first.
Adding thread locker to the nipples will not hurt. E.g Locktite 542

[Rimrock]

Sad to hear about the troubles someone experiences with the equipment. I guess one can state that RC4WD is more of a pure 'forwarder' of deals/money between the customer and the fabricator, Eagle. Not a real 'dealer' like one have with full scale machinery, that test runs, upgrades things before delivery, give full service, keep spare parts locally and so on. It's all very cost driven, companies like RC4Wd want's to have minimum stock and personnel, to keep costs down. That naturally influence the degree of service and quality of the delivery. I don't know if there are, or there should be, a professional dealer of the machines in e.g the US, that have good technical knowledge, keep spare parts in stock locally, and really test, check and possible upgrade the machines before delivery. the hobby is quite new..but hopefully things will improve over time and one will have more options than relate to unprofessional 'forwarders' or relate directly to a factory in China, that also keeps number of staff down in order to keep low cost.
If not getting original hydraulics properly up and go, there is always the option to put proper hydraulics in, Premacon, 1000-1200-1400 usd (If so, ask/look for advice at the forum concerning all parts needed in such a upgrade first, if one are not very into hydraulics)

[TheBennyB]

I just emailed Tang to see if there is a "new" 3 block version 1.5 or if RC4WD is being negligent on updating or misinforming customers on what they are selling.

[Northern Farmer]

Keep us updated. Curious to see what the deal is...

[TheBennyB]

Ok, so heard back from Tang and he said the newest 1.5's do have an improved 3 valve block and not a 4 valve. He also said to make sure the flow isn't too high and stay at stock or a bit lower on the pump speed which we all know already. Seems a bit suspect until I see a listing to buy a "new" 3 valve block upgrade. If anyone has some pics of their 1.0 3 valve block could you post up please, would like to compare.

[Northern Farmer]

Wish they listed a clear description of the parts they updated over the years. Would make things easier to figure which version you have.

[TheBennyB]

Wish they listed a clear description of the parts they updated over the years. Would make things easier to figure which version you have.


No kidding, though I'm sure the 12 year old that "tests" and boxes them up has no idea what they have in front of them, much less the distributor. I'm still not completely sold on this "new" 3 block. I've only heard good things about Tang so I'll take his word...for now!!

[Cooper]

I've been following this and correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the new valve block just the same block ?, just three valves instead of 4?

[TheBennyB]

I've been following this and correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the new valve block just the same block ?, just three valves instead of 4?

Version 1.0 has a 3 valve block, supposedly 1.5 has a 4 valve block and the "newest" 1.5's have a improved 3 valve block. This is what I've been told by Tang and RC4WD. Not sure what the "improvements" are though.

[Northern Farmer]

With the new valve block they should update the 4200 to version 2.0. Would help clear things up for customers wondering if they have the correct parts for their version.

[Northern Farmer]

Four valve block on the 1.5 version
"4-way reversing valve, the use of standard servo drive, a total of 4 road, one on the right side all the way to control the oil, under normal circumstances the oil flows back to the fuel tank directly, producing action after valve is closed, the hydraulic oil flow to the high pressure oil. The actual use only three road"

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Rc-car-toy-model-1-12-1-14-Directional-control-valve-hydraulic-model-applies-to-all/32310170016.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.2.rZihGh&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_0,searchweb201602_5_100 17_10021_507_10022_10020_10009_10008_10018_10019_1 01,searchweb201603_2&btsid=3d08f60d-1059-4768-97da-5a821f4c27f8

http://store.rc4wd.com/Hydraulic-Valve-Block-Version-15_p_1832.html

[Cooper]

Ok, so heard back from Tang and he said the newest 1.5's do have an improved 3 valve block and not a 4 valve. He also said to make sure the flow isn't too high and stay at stock or a bit lower on the pump speed which we all know already. Seems a bit suspect until I see a listing to buy a "new" 3 valve block upgrade. If anyone has some pics of their 1.0 3 valve block could you post up please, would like to compare.

I'm totally confused with this one guys, and I'm sure others are too,,,,

When you say 3 valve block , how many actual servos are connected to the whole block? Three valves and one diverted valve? That's still the 4 valve block. Or are you actually saying the version you are referring to has ONLY three servos and does not have the diverted valve and is using pump with prv to divert flow back to tank?

[TheBennyB]

I'm totally confused with this one guys, and I'm sure others are too,,,,

When you say 3 valve block , how many actual servos are connected to the whole block? Three valves and one diverted valve? That's still the 4 valve block. Or are you actually saying the version you are referring to has ONLY three servos and does not have the diverted valve and is using pump with prv to divert flow back to tank?

You got it. 3 valve block=3 servo's an no diverting valve, just usual prv.
4 valve block=4 servo's. 3 for booms and bucket and 4th for diverting valve.

[Cooper]

Got ya :).

I'm pretty sure (not positive) but these are shipped from overseas (hk). Rc4wd doesn't see/touch them. At least mine came with overseas post.

[Northern Farmer]

Got ya :).

I'm pretty sure (not positive) but these are shipped from overseas (hk). Rc4wd doesn't see/touch them. At least mine came with overseas post.

Naw Benny's came from Cali and not Honk Kong, RC4WD must of have had it at their warehouse.

[TheBennyB]

Naw Benny's came from Cali and not Honk Kong, RC4WD must of have had it at their warehouse.

Nope, mine came from oversea's. Had to deal with DHL as more import tax was owed before delivery. I had to pay $100 out of pocket, luckily RC4WD reimbursed me via paypal. Just another wonderful experience of this excavator adventure provided by RC4WD. I believe your right, the only thing RC4WD has seen of these are the pics on their website.

[Northern Farmer]

My bad I must have miss read your post on the previous page. That's actually pretty good if RC4WD covered the duty fees on your excavator. No one ever payed any of the duty fees I ever had on any of my parcels :( lol That's usually how things go when buying outside of the country you have to pay import tax on it. Also had to pay DHL on delivery.

[TheBennyB]

My bad I must have miss read your post on the previous page. That's actually pretty good if RC4WD covered the duty fees on your excavator. No one ever payed any of the duty fees I ever had on any of my parcels :( lol That's usually how things go when buying outside of the country you have to pay import tax on it. Also had to pay DHL on delivery.

Oh yea, glad they paid me back. Definitely not a deal breaker, just emailed them and asked why the total cost wasn't included in initial shipping cost.
I know of course taxes change and with the weight it could easily be held up in customs. I gave them a shout for S and giggles and was a bit shocked when my paypal account showed the $$ the next day.

[Anyspy]

Replaced a servo in mine for the bucket
After 2years of running

[thebigo]

Yes , Rc4wd will go out of there way to help you at least they did with me, you just need to be patient.
To be very truthful with you I have not seen a company provide me with Excellent service like RC4WD, especially inside and outside the USA.
Premacon has just s+_@#$ on me with there service, TTM in Germany and RCBM are very good also.

[Northern Farmer]

Premacon has done you wrong ? I've ordered from TTM in the past but communication was non-existent but I did received my order. I've never personally had any issues that wasn't taken care of by RC4WD, I was getting wary that they were pawning off old stock as current models but that doesn't seem to be the case.

[TheBennyB]

Other than the 4200 I've never had an issue with rc4wd as well. Think the heavy construction stuff is still out of their wheel house though. For all my emails and claims on this it has been very basic responses with the old "send a pic." Yes I get my part, but with no technical response or action that they may take to improve or correct in the future. I completely understand this a cheap "clone" entry level excavator in the realm of this hobby so I take most of this adventure with a grain of salt. Overall it's still not a bad rig for the price point, but I DO know i'm not the first or last customer that will have trouble with the 4200xl which is a bit disappointing.

[TheBennyB]

So the 4200xl is labeled as being built by JD customs as we know. I've done a basic search and found nothing, anyone know of them? i've missed something and maybe they are known fabricators/model builders? Or maybe just a front? I'd love to go straight to them with questions.

[Northern Farmer]

You've been speaking with them all along lol Tang is a customer rep. for Eagle Machinery a.k.a. JD customs. Have any questions just email him.

[TheBennyB]

Ha Ha, awesome! Had no idea. Thanks for informing this newbie, Farmer. You think he's on the floor at all or just a rep?

[Northern Farmer]

All good it's what were here for!

[schmoking]

these guys have a weird way of doing buisness...
they drop the price of their product, at the same time they "upgrade" it with a "new" and "improved" valveblock... (not even bothering to mention anything about it in their advertisement) how nice of them.
strange that they still would sell the old valveblock as an upgrade to this new one tho... :)

anyways.. if they wont give you the 4 valveblock, i recomend you dont buy it. if your block starts leaking then go for another manufacterer, i think premacon has a 3 way block for around 250 eur.
and maybe look into another motor and esc.

[TheBennyB]

these guys have a weird way of doing buisness...
they drop the price of their product, at the same time they "upgrade" it with a "new" and "improved" valveblock... (not even bothering to mention anything about it in their advertisement) how nice of them.
strange that they still would sell the old valveblock as an upgrade to this new one tho... :)

anyways.. if they wont give you the 4 valveblock, i recomend you dont buy it. if your block starts leaking then go for another manufacterer, i think premacon has a 3 way block for around 250 eur.
and maybe look into another motor and esc.

Yea, that's my thinkn as well. Keep playing till something busts, then fix, replace, or upgrade a system.

[thebigo]

Premacon has done you wrong ? I've ordered from TTM in the past but communication was non-existent but I did received my order. I've never personally had any issues that wasn't taken care of by RC4WD, I was getting wary that they were pawning off old stock as current models but that doesn't seem to be the case.

After one year I recieved my 960, first thing wrong the cab was not glued together correctly, and instead of sending me another cab they told me to send mine back, they would fix it. Well I would like to enjoy the machine since I waited one year for it, and you would think they would quality check it before sending a $12000.00 + machine out.

I later ordered about $300.00 of accesories, don't believe there ship dates on there web site, they said two weeks for shipment, two month's later still no parts. Just had them send my money back, with a paypal loss of fees on my account. They just keep giving you excuses, we will ship next week, and the same story every week.

Can understand when problems can occur, but be up front with me, they were not. I think they may just care about there European customers, I don't know?

[Northern Farmer]

I think that's messed up to treat a customer like that! Communication and service is key to a company's survival. After you purchasing one of their machines and having to wait for delivery on parts that never showed...that's awefully crummy! Wouldn't have thought these issues would arise with the German companies models for the price your paying not to mention having to wait a year for Premacon to build it!

[Rimrock]

After one year I recieved my 960, first thing wrong the cab was not glued together correctly, and instead of sending me another cab they told me to send mine back, they would fix it. Well I would like to enjoy the machine since I waited one year for it, and you would think they would quality check it before sending a $12000.00 + machine out.

I later ordered about $300.00 of accesories, don't believe there ship dates on there web site, they said two weeks for shipment, two month's later still no parts. Just had them send my money back, with a paypal loss of fees on my account. They just keep giving you excuses, we will ship next week, and the same story every week.

Can understand when problems can occur, but be up front with me, they were not. I think they may just care about there European customers, I don't know?

Everyone can do mistakes, but would expect Premacon to deal with the matter with the cab in a bit more 'smooth' way once the mistake was discovered..) With 1 year delivery time, it might just tells that they are quite stressed out..Been launching several new models the last couple of years, been getting a bit more orders than expected, and not hired/trained enough technicians..? Anyway, see that Fumotec also have 1 year waiting time now, and guess THS(Volvo) are about the same. There all busy enogh it seams, but that's naturally no good reason for not giving good customer service.. I've been ordering hydraulic parts from Premacon through the years, and yeah, I would say they might not be among the fastest when it comes to customer service and shipping..that's just they way it is) I don't know, lack of people, composition of the people in customer and service department...Took like 6 weeks once before my order was being expedited, compared usually to 'just' 2 weeks) A secretary was pregnant and had stopped working, somebody else at holiday, some sick at home and so on..Alright, but high quality parts, they are good with the technical stuff, orders have arrived at last, so I just take in mind some weeks delivery time when ordering..)

[JDToumanian]

With the new valve block they should update the 4200 to version 2.0. Would help clear things up for customers wondering if they have the correct parts for their version.

I believe they took your advice on this... I just got my 4200XL version 2.0, I couldn't pass up the current sale price ($1792). It has the improved 3-valve block, sprung idlers, and different ESCs than I have seen before. No cooling fans either. The pump seems quieter than in YouTube videos I've seen, and contrary to what RC4WD's site still says, the tracks are cast aluminum, not carbon steel.

I'm quite pleased, it worked flawlessly right out of the box... No issues or complaints so far.

Jon

[Efroeh]

That's great news I'm waiting for mine to come in and hope I have the same results as yours.

[Northern Farmer]

Eagle machinery and it's dealers are depleting their stock of the current excavator for the arrival of the true 2.0 version soon to be released. Kind of confusing I know.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2a2t1e.jpg

[JDToumanian]

Wow, that looks great! I suspected a newer model might be in the works, as Eagle's loader and bulldozer make the 4200 look rather plain, but I bet the new excavator won't be $1792. I plan to modify my 4200 to make it look like a Hitachi Zaxis 470LCH, so if I end up having saved money buying the less detailed model, I'll still be pleased.

Jon

[Northern Farmer]

Wow, that looks great! I suspected a newer model might be in the works, as Eagle's loader and bulldozer make the 4200 look rather plain, but I bet the new excavator won't be $1792. I plan to modify my 4200 to make it look like a Hitachi Zaxis 470LCH, so if I end up having saved money buying the less detailed model, I'll still be pleased.

Jon

Yeah Eagle states they will sell the new excavator at cost price 1790$
https://eaglemach.en.alibaba.com/product/60453836110-220105914/1_14_Scale_RC_Hydraulic_Excavator_2_0_Version.html

"EAGLE JD-1 1/12 RC Hydraulic Excavator already released for five years,we appreciate customers who walk together with us during these five years,especially the customers who gave us advice and idea to improve our products,thus,as an thanksgiving to our customers,this version which carries many customers' memories,will be sell at cost price only,which is US$1790,comparing to previous US$2699.

Meanwhile,after listening to many customers' opinion,we decide to upgrade an full brushless,more scale and detailed new version rc hydraulic excavator,which prototype on Volve machine,we called it EAGLE JD-X 1/14 RC Hydraulic Excavator 2.0 version,we started this project around 8 months ago,which pictures without painting is as below,but main technical datas we shall publish later,estimated release date of this machine is June,2016.

Thank you very much for our customers' attention,we will constantly work hard to provide our dear customers an affordable,but high performance and detailed hydraulic model,thank you all!"

[TheBennyB]

I believe they took your advice on this... I just got my 4200XL version 2.0, I couldn't pass up the current sale price ($1792). It has the improved 3-valve block, sprung idlers, and different ESCs than I have seen before. No cooling fans either. The pump seems quieter than in YouTube videos I've seen, and contrary to what RC4WD's site still says, the tracks are cast aluminum, not carbon steel.

I'm quite pleased, it worked flawlessly right out of the box... No issues or complaints so far.

Jon

Interesting, mine has all that but still has a cooling fan on the brushless pump motor ESC.

[JDToumanian]

Yeah Eagle states they will sell the new excavator at cost price 1790$

"EAGLE JD-1 1/12 RC Hydraulic Excavator already released for five years,we appreciate customers who walk together with us during these five years,especially the customers who gave us advice and idea to improve our products,thus,as an thanksgiving to our customers,this version which carries many customers' memories,will be sell at cost price only,which is US$1790,comparing to previous US$2699.

Meanwhile,after listening to many customers' opinion,we decide to upgrade an full brushless,more scale and detailed new version rc hydraulic excavator,which prototype on Volve machine,we called it EAGLE JD-X 1/14 RC Hydraulic Excavator 2.0 version,we started this project around 8 months ago,which pictures without painting is as below,but main technical datas we shall publish later,estimated release date of this machine is June,2016."

I think you may be misunderstanding Eagle's posting there... The way I read the first paragraph, is that they are thanking customers for their support and suggestions, so they are getting rid of the older model... "this version which carries many customers' memories", at the lower price of $1790.

The second paragraph... MEANWHILE (meaning while they're getting rid of the old model) they have introduced this NEW model, pictured below, to be released later.

There is no indication that the new model will be at the sale price of the old model.

[liftmys10]

I think you may be misunderstanding Eagle's posting there... The way I read the first paragraph, is that they are thanking customers for their support and suggestions, so they are getting rid of the older model... "this version which carries many customers' memories", at the lower price of $1790.

The second paragraph... MEANWHILE (meaning while they're getting rid of the old model) they have introduced this NEW model, pictured below, to be released later.

There is no indication that the new model will be at the sale price of the old model.
Thats how I understood it as well. Same as JDTOumanian

[Northern Farmer]

I think you may be misunderstanding Eagle's posting there... The way I read the first paragraph, is that they are thanking customers for their support and suggestions, so they are getting rid of the older model... "this version which carries many customers' memories", at the lower price of $1790.

The second paragraph... MEANWHILE (meaning while they're getting rid of the old model) they have introduced this NEW model, pictured below, to be released later.

There is no indication that the new model will be at the sale price of the old model.

You might be right.

[Northern Farmer]

I emailed Tang to help clear things up, will let you guys know what he says.

[Northern Farmer]

Yup you guys were right! My bad. The 1790$ only applies to the current model that they are liquidating. Pricing has yet to be confirmed for the new excavator model by Eagle. Was told it will be available this summer in roughly a month or two.

[Rimrock]

The new model is quite more detailed than the current, with more CNC milling of parts is seams, $3000-3500 is maybe not too far away.

[Northern Farmer]

Considering when the first excavator was released it cost 2699$ US and was far less detailed, your probably not too far off Oyvind.

[JDToumanian]

Yup you guys were right! My bad. The 1790$ only applies to the current model that they are liquidating. Pricing has yet to be confirmed for the new excavator model by Eagle. Was told it will be available this summer in roughly a month or two.

Ah. I predict it will be $3000 or so, basically in the same price range as the loader and dozer... I'm glad I got one at the blowout price while I had the chance.

I notice they say the new model is 'all CNC' or something like that, and that may be true, but it's clearly not machined from solid bar stock... Almost everything I see in the new picture is die-cast. Nothing wrong with that, although die castings are generally not as strong as solid billet material would be, so it will be interesting to see how durable it turns out to be with heavy use. I hope Martin from 'Digging with Martin' buys one!

I ordered a brushless track upgrade kit for mine, direct from Eagle, which AliExpress showed 'in stock'. But I got an email from Roy at Eagle a few days later saying they were out of stock of the older brushless track upgrade kits, and only had the newer, more detailed die-cast version in stock, and if it was okay for them to send me that kit instead of the one pictured. I said sure! The new brushless track kit is supposed to be more durable and has 4 planet gears instead of 3... The DHL tracking says it will arrive Tuesday, so maybe I'll start a separate thread for that. I haven't seen any postings about the new kit anywhere yet...

Jon

[Northern Farmer]

Should be interesting looking forward to seeing your excavator!