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dirtpusher9
02-04-2011, 09:20 AM
Wow, the boom looks great, Steve. The video of it working was great to watch.

9W Monighan
02-04-2011, 09:58 AM
Wow, the boom looks great, Steve. The video of it working was great to watch.

Man, It's nice to see you've climbed back out of the woodwork Joe!
Still wish you could have made the trip. I still have a lot of work to do on the boom which I'll get back on soon. I just sandwiched a piece of wood in the point to hold the sheave and make it usable.
We were a big hit there. A guy stopped and told me that the digging PIT was worth his admission to the show. The guy who puts on the show told me that he had many compliments about the construction machines and he's going to supply us with more dirt next year. Also this was a record attendance show of over 5000+ people thru the door.
I know we will have more machines next time with Scott busy with the Units and his hauling fleet. Ed will have his Excavator ready, Steve will have the scraper ready we hope, and I have a couple small builds in the works.

dirtpusher9
02-04-2011, 10:19 AM
Hope to be there with a D9 and 463 as well. That would be fun and I'll keep you a good level spot for your dragline.

9W Monighan
02-04-2011, 10:30 AM
We still have summer shows to attend and of course INDY. I think Toy Trucker is willing to supply the dirt this time in a tent outside. Not sure yet but they are thinking about it.

ihbuilder
02-04-2011, 10:32 AM
Man, It's nice to see you've climbed back out of the woodwork Joe!
Still wish you could have made the trip. I still have a lot of work to do on the boom which I'll get back on soon. I just sandwiched a piece of wood in the point to hold the sheave and make it usable.
We were a big hit there. A guy stopped and told me that the digging PIT was worth his admission to the show. The guy who puts on the show told me that he had many compliments about the construction machines and he's going to supply us with more dirt next year. Also this was a record attendance show of over 5000+ people thru the door.
I know we will have more machines next time with Scott busy with the Units and his hauling fleet. Ed will have his Excavator ready, Steve will have the scraper ready we hope, and I have a couple small builds in the works.

yes I will + the 40 I would've been there with it had I not had to load my 307 for the last time :( . oh well it got me another toy :) . joe it good to see you popping up here and there . :p

Stuff
02-06-2011, 01:50 PM
Couldnt remember where you were basing your M9 off of. I found a link to a group and a guy from Edmonton, Alberta that has footage on his youtube. it would be a 10-11 hour drive for me to go there lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxirG6odhgQ&hd=1

facebook group - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Diggin-Ditchin-n-Bitchin/118477678225483?v=wall

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs907.ash1/181508_124139824325935_118477678225483_161658_4442 674_n.jpg
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs047.snc6/167788_123950841011500_118477678225483_160793_3978 761_n.jpg


once again not sure if this is what your modeling off of. but vantagetes claims its 1 of 2 built.


this is a 9W in action i found http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OoXu3FK7lc

D8R
02-06-2011, 02:12 PM
Steve, did not realize that I have been looking at a real 9W until I saw that movie. Pic bellow was taken spring 2006 when a group was visiting the coal fields of PA. Don´t know the exact location now but maybee it was one shown in video. :o:o
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af270/gulalastbilen/DSCF4478.jpg
Here´s another pic from same coal mine
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af270/gulalastbilen/DSCF4456.jpg
Dan

9W Monighan
02-06-2011, 04:55 PM
Steve, did not realize that I have been looking at a real 9W until I saw that movie. Pic bellow was taken spring 2006 when a group was visiting the coal fields of PA. Don´t know the exact location now but maybee it was one shown in video. :o:o
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af270/gulalastbilen/DSCF4478.jpg
Here´s another pic from same coal mine
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af270/gulalastbilen/DSCF4456.jpg
Dan

Yes Dan I know those machines. That old 9W is named "JILL"
and the one from one of my videos is "JACK" They came from Jeddo Coal in Hazelton,PA. In the pit is Jeddo's Marion 8700 and on top is their B-E 1450. The two 9W's were walked over a mountain to another mine, Hazelton Shaft, where that picture was taken. I've been on that machine too for some measurements. Both machines are restored and are operating now. I need to get out there soon for some more sizes only thing, they're 290miles away. Look over those Bennettshovel videos on youtube. Walter has several of those machines in his video collection.

9W Monighan
02-10-2011, 08:16 PM
Time to get back at it:p I'm starting to acclimate myself with my drawings again after a couple months so I can fabricate the boom point parts.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/112/dscn0240i.jpg

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1613/dscn0239x.jpg

My dog:D
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/4703/dscn0225h.jpg

Stuff
02-10-2011, 09:31 PM
aww the puppy thinks its an axle :D

td9clyde
02-11-2011, 09:54 AM
where did you find that tire and how big is it? cute lil doggie lol

9W Monighan
02-11-2011, 12:07 PM
I had that laying around,don't know where it came from. It does measure :6.5''od x 2''w x 3.25''id.

td9clyde
02-11-2011, 01:03 PM
wow thats soooo close to my scraper tire lol

sparkycuda
02-11-2011, 04:12 PM
Really cute dog. I'm not used to little guys 'cause we have two retrievers. Anyway, the tire reminds me of the ones that came with ashtrays in the center - all the tire manufacturers made them in the 60's and 70's. You can find them on evil-bay but might have difficulty getting enough of the same for a set - and usually not cheap.

Ken

9W Monighan
02-13-2011, 09:59 PM
Made some slow progress today. I real time consuming job of pocketing. I had to take small cuts because my cutter is dull and the plate is thin and is done on both sides. The B/W photo is from a different machine but literally the same other than the point. That photo was taken 42yrs ago.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8199/dscn0242r.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/370/dscn0244k.jpg

Stuff
02-14-2011, 01:16 AM
its looking good!

modelman
02-14-2011, 01:39 PM
Looking good steve-I don't understand the 2-small sheaves over the boom point sheave. What's that all about?

D8R
02-14-2011, 02:09 PM
Looks nice, huch much time do a part like that take in programming, preparation and production??

Dan

9W Monighan
02-14-2011, 02:17 PM
Looking good steve-I don't understand the 2-small sheaves over the boom point sheave. What's that all about?

Those are for the suspension cables. There are 6 of them up there and two smaller for the cable ends. This machine has a "Live Boom" but after it's at the proper angle there's two sets of safety cables attached to the mid points. You'll see when I get to that stage. The B/W picture is a boom from probably a 6160 with a two part hoist,notice the attachment under the boom and it has a smaller diameter sheave. This one is: 44''dia. and mine will be:58'' (3.625''scale)

9W Monighan
02-14-2011, 02:27 PM
Looks nice, huch much time do a part like that take in programming, preparation and production??

Dan

HA HA! I spent about 8hrs yesterday fine tuning the program and producing the part and like I said;my endmill was dull and I took lighter .030'' cuts 1.2ipm feed on my pockets. The outside had 435 events. The inside had less because there wasn't as big of a area to machine. I didn't get any pictures of the inside. I sure hope the other three pieces don't take 8hrs each:o That reminds me, I want to order a new carbide endmill to do the others.

JAMMER
02-14-2011, 02:47 PM
Steve that is some very nice work as usual from your shop. Ed

Operator
02-16-2011, 08:14 PM
HA HA! I spent about 8hrs yesterday fine tuning the program and producing the part and like I said;my endmill was dull and I took lighter .030'' cuts 1.2ipm feed on my pockets. The outside had 435 events. The inside had less because there wasn't as big of a area to machine. I didn't get any pictures of the inside. I sure hope the other three pieces don't take 8hrs each:o That reminds me, I want to order a new carbide endmill to do the others.

.030".....HA, thats hogging metal on my baby mill!:cool:

How many channels does that take to run?

Looks like you got a couple inverters for the 12v? or 24?

Could you take a brief min. and kinda explain to me how the machine is wired? like inverter to? to? and motor goes to? and so on.

You can PM me if you don't want to clutter your thread up. I'll have a bunch of ?
Thanks
Matt

9W Monighan
02-16-2011, 11:36 PM
.030".....HA, thats hogging metal on my baby mill!:cool:

How many channels does that take to run?

Looks like you got a couple inverters for the 12v? or 24?

Could you take a brief min. and kinda explain to me how the machine is wired? like inverter to? to? and motor goes to? and so on.

You can PM me if you don't want to clutter your thread up. I'll have a bunch of ?
Thanks
Matt

I made another one of those plates tonight. New endmill but kept the same program. Saw where I can make improvements on the program and shave about a half hour off. I didn't want to change it till I go to the RH pieces. I'll go with about 3ipm and a .05'' cut next. That's architectural bronze CDA385 I have laying around alittle harder than the free machining CDA360 leaded brass. One of the reasons you can't plow through fast. That stuff wears out tools surprisingly fast.

As far as channels, I'm using 3 : dragging/walking,hoisting, swinging, I will need a couple more to set the drag and walking brakes.One for the walking jaw clutch. Maybe another for turning the lights on off. Horn? I have a DX7 radio (overkill)

110VAC Power is run into the tub then through a 6 conductor slip ring. then the power goes to a relay that is manually controlled back at my power box for safety purposes to kill it if something happens or someones fingers get in there. After the relay the voltage is fed to the 3- 90VDC 4 quadrant regenerative drives and a 5VDC power supply. The RC part comes from the 3 ESC's attached to the reciever and then each is individually wired to the 3 regen drives. Power to operate the Receiver and ESC'c comes from the 5VDC power supply. The ESC's put out a +5 or-5V signal and that is fed to the drives and they start when the voltage comes in. The drives are then wired to three 90VDC perm. magnet motors,1/29hp=hoist 1/17hp=swing 1/8hp drag/walk. The whole deal draws only 1.5a not to mention when I'm lowering the hoist, I'm generating power back into the incoming 110VAC line. Pretty simple only took me 8yrs and a bunch of $$ and trial and error.

My big plan is to hard wire the whole machine and control it with the original operators controls from a 1:1 machine. All I have to do is pull all the electronics off and put them back to my operators station and put a slip ring in with more conductors. I could also tear apart my radio and install the pots on the stick to my 1:1 controls.
RC just made it alot easier to do.

9W Monighan
02-18-2011, 07:06 PM
A little more update on the boom point this past week.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2930/dscn0176j.jpg

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1613/dscn0239x.jpg

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/3668/dscn0246.jpg

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/2833/dscn0248j.jpg

http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/792/dscn0249v.jpg

Four sides now done.
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5613/dscn0251g.jpg

Stuff
02-19-2011, 01:14 PM
oh my that is nice!!

Brian in PA
02-19-2011, 07:41 PM
Nice progress Steve Is that first pic from cabin fever?

Brian

9W Monighan
02-19-2011, 07:54 PM
Yes Brian, I took that Saturday night when they kicked us out. Get that triaxle done so you can haul at the next York show.

modelman
02-21-2011, 01:44 PM
Looks great steve! Always waiting to see more!

D8R
02-21-2011, 02:12 PM
looking good as usual, Steve. Looked the vid with one of my friends (who also visit Brownsville) , he has more than 20 real machines,. A question, it looks like there to little weight in the bucket, is this only a test bucket? You had a bigger one on side of machine, is that the one that will be used??
Dan

9W Monighan
02-21-2011, 02:33 PM
looking good as usual, Steve. Looked the vid with one of my friends (who also visit Brownsville) , he has more than 20 real machines,. A question, it looks like there to little weight in the bucket, is this only a test bucket? You had a bigger one on side of machine, is that the one that will be used??
Dan

That's a smaller bucket we used because I didn't see the real problem till I got home and it was two set screws on the hoist motor shaft came loose and you can't see the motor shaft spinning inside of the hoist pinion cross shaft:o. It used to be pressed on slightly. I couldn't pick the big bucket up empty:eek:. After 6yrs I guess you find these unseen problems,after all it was only the second time this has been in the dirt actually working. It's fixed now and I wish I found the problem at the show. I think I described this problem earlier.

I'll have more pictures soon on the boom point. I just cut a piece of 3.75'' round stock this morning for the point sheave. I'll be working on the cradle that holds the point sheave tonight.

9W Monighan
02-25-2011, 11:43 AM
Lots of time fooling around with these two pieces.

Profiling out one of the pillow blocks that hold the point sheave cradle.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3210/dscn0253w.jpg

Drilling and boring
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2708/dscn0255d.jpg

Just need the bronze bushing installed.
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4309/dscn0269r.jpg

Hogging out the cradle
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/1416/dscn0258.jpg

Pocketing one of the sides at an angle
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5299/dscn0259q.jpg

Ready to turn the end pins
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2547/dscn0265c.jpg

Roughing in one end between centers
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2850/dscn0266f.jpg
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/7977/dscn0267b.jpg

Final finishing
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/7775/dscn0268b.jpg

Completed cradle ready for deburring and final finishing to remove tool marks.
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/6594/dscn0270sq.jpg
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/8081/dscn0271m.jpg

ihbuilder
02-25-2011, 11:55 AM
:eek::eek: All I can say :D

JAMMER
02-25-2011, 12:03 PM
That looks real good Steve you do have a talent and a lot of patients more than I in either case. Ed

Stuff
02-25-2011, 12:05 PM
WOW indeed!! also first time seeing that kinda lathe chuck.

9W Monighan
02-25-2011, 12:07 PM
:D:D:D:D:D:D I like to machine:p:p:p:p:p:p

modelman
02-25-2011, 12:39 PM
Amazing work steve!! That looks like a really tough pc. to make. I'm glad it's you instead of me doing that. I never really understood how the point sheave could swivel from side to side until I saw these pictures. Now it makes sense.

D8R
02-25-2011, 12:46 PM
What a piece of art, no , every piece you make is art!!!
Got to go to Brownsville!
Dan

kerst
02-25-2011, 01:39 PM
:D:D:D:D:D:D I like to machine:p:p:p:p:p:p

Me too!

Thanks for sharing!

Kerst

SmallHaul
02-25-2011, 01:48 PM
Wow! That is amazing work Steve. I hope to someday have the talent and patience to make pieces like that.

tc1cat
02-25-2011, 03:53 PM
:eek::eek:I have to agree with everyone. Everything you make is a work of art. Way beyond anything I have made or hope to make. I am humbled by your skills.

Lynn

9W Monighan
02-25-2011, 04:35 PM
Many thanks you guys. I've been waiting a long time to make this piece. The drawing in the parts book I designed it from has really good details of it. I think I'm pretty close. The only other alternative is to go climb the boom on the real machine and measure.
Next step is to work on the sheave and front bearing block similar to the rear one only the top is chopped off some.

pugs
02-25-2011, 08:19 PM
Very nice work as always.

scalecranes
02-25-2011, 10:04 PM
Thats interesting how it has the sheave trunion mounted. I guess you have to worry about side loading alot more in a drag line than you do in a crane. Your machining skills are excellent. I'd love to see this thing in person sometime.

9W Monighan
02-25-2011, 10:24 PM
Thats interesting how it has the sheave trunion mounted. I guess you have to worry about side loading alot more in a drag line than you do in a crane. Your machining skills are excellent. I'd love to see this thing in person sometime.

Check out some a Walter Bennetts videos on you tube
http://www.youtube.com/user/bennettshovel
I talked him into putting his mining videos on youtube a couple years ago. Watch one of his more recent ones with the Marion 7820. That operator is already swinging just before he pulls the bucket out of the cut. The bucket is practically behind the boom tip most of the time. That machine has I think, a 300' boom on it with a 40cy bucket installed. This is why you want the point to swivel.:eek:

chaseracer
02-25-2011, 10:54 PM
:eek::D simply amazing, just outstanding

lorenzo
02-27-2011, 02:49 PM
Wow, that's just amazing Steve. It's always a pleasure to see what you've done.
That's an interesting clamb you're using. I've never seen this before. Do you have aother pic of it?


Lorenz

9W Monighan
02-27-2011, 03:12 PM
Wow, that's just amazing Steve. It's always a pleasure to see what you've done.
That's an interesting clamb you're using. I've never seen this before. Do you have aother pic of it?


Lorenz

Hello Lorenzo. That clamp is called a lathe dog. This is how you drive a part while turning,grinding or milling between centers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lathe_dog

lorenzo
02-27-2011, 03:23 PM
Many thx Steve. Very interesting.

mog
02-27-2011, 11:29 PM
very nice work there you take grate pride in your work and show's 10 fold keep up the good work my friend.

Jared
03-01-2011, 01:15 PM
Check out some a Walter Bennetts videos on you tube
http://www.youtube.com/user/bennettshovel
I talked him into putting his mining videos on youtube a couple years ago. Watch one of his more recent ones with the Marion 7820. That operator is already swinging just before he pulls the bucket out of the cut. The bucket is practically behind the boom tip most of the time. That machine has I think, a 300' boom on it with a 40cy bucket installed. This is why you want the point to swivel.:eek:

So it's you who's the guilty party:D. I gotta say thanks for doing that because I watch every one of his videos and I love 'em.

This machine just gets better and better.

9W Monighan
03-01-2011, 09:45 PM
Another few hours. I still need to pocket out the spokes on the sheave but I have my mill tied up with a job.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3282/dscn0283dw.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5478/dscn0284wn.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6852/dscn0287m.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8837/dscn0285q.jpg

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6808/dscn0286g.jpg

pugs
03-01-2011, 10:09 PM
I see I'm not the only one to use whatever tool works to get the job done.

Dreamweaver
03-01-2011, 10:10 PM
WOW looking good, Must be a thing about Guys named Steve and machining ability.

I'm jealous, sure wish I could do that... Should have actually went to my metal working class in high school.:(:rolleyes:

This is a very impressive machine Steve, good work.

Stuff
03-02-2011, 12:43 AM
wow that looks good!

9W Monighan
03-02-2011, 09:36 AM
I see I'm not the only one to use whatever tool works to get the job done.

I was going to comment on that .046R cutter but I see you have a good eye.

ihbuilder
03-02-2011, 09:58 AM
I see I'm not the only one to use whatever tool works to get the job done.

that makes a true machinist ;)

tc1cat
03-02-2011, 10:06 AM
More impressive machine work from a master. I know what you mean about using whatever works. I very seldom use a boring bar unless I need to go very deep. 2 flute end mill works very nice as a boring bar. Maybe I should be quiet:rolleyes::rolleyes: Giving away secrets!!!

lYNN

lorenzo
03-02-2011, 03:02 PM
You did it again Steve, You made me absolutely speech less :). Amazing work. The only thing that's sad on it is that I prabably won't see it IRL :(.

doodlebug
03-02-2011, 10:19 PM
We like secret's! Thank's for sharing. Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

9W Monighan
03-07-2011, 01:13 PM
More photos of the point progress. I didn't get as much done as I wanted due to some flu that's going around my house:(

Pocketing out spokes
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1416/dscn0289hg.jpg

Done
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/919/dscn0290l.jpg

Milling out the front pillow block
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7822/dscn0293v.jpg
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3601/dscn0294g.jpg

Exploded view of parts made so far. Almost complete.
http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/8384/dscn0308e.jpg

modelman
03-08-2011, 11:41 AM
Looks really good steve!! Can't wait to see it all put together.:cool:

9W Monighan
03-08-2011, 12:51 PM
Looks really good steve!! Can't wait to see it all put together.:cool:

I want to get this part together too. I need to mill some off the ends of the boom chords so the channel that holds the front pillow block sits perpendicular to the centerlines of the taper. I probably could have got that done but I friend stopped last evening to check my progress so we BS'ed for two hours. Next step is to make the 19 sheaves for the suspension ropes.
Hopefully I can get it ready by next month because I want to take the drag to a show.

td9clyde
03-08-2011, 07:20 PM
nicely done so much detail wish i had the skills of some of you guys

lorenzo
03-09-2011, 06:43 AM
Just wow. That's looking really cool. It looks so good that it would be a pity to hide it under a coat of paint.

RCLogger
03-10-2011, 01:33 AM
Everytime I checkout your thread Steve I don't know what to say ! I have learned alot just looking at your photo's, keep them coming.... Great work

greg

9W Monighan
03-10-2011, 10:19 AM
Thanks again you guys. I've been laid up with the flu this week but today I decided to come to work for a while. Nobody knows what to do when I'm gone.

Stuff
03-10-2011, 10:46 AM
lol gotta love that!

tc1cat
03-10-2011, 11:07 AM
Always GREAT work! What show are you trying to get it done for? I really need to see it in person:(

9W Monighan
03-10-2011, 11:57 AM
May 6-7-8 2011 International Watch Fob Collectors .http://www.watchfob.com/show.html near the Cleveland Airport . One of the leaders has a open house at his gravel pit on Sunday only.(Not sure if it's open to all.) Near Mantua,Ohio. The pit is real close to the turnpike and if you know where to look you can see part of his pit. Operating 1:1 shovels draglines,dozers, loaders and other machinery. I want to take the dragline and set it up in his shop and dig some sand and gravel. I was trying to do it last year but it rained that weekend and I was still tacking the bucket together and didn't make it.

Stuff
03-10-2011, 04:17 PM
fire him off an email. worst he can say is no.

eef7260
03-10-2011, 05:40 PM
Very nice progress Steve the spokes came out real nice.
Are the 19 sheaves for the suspension ropes all the same or a lot of different sizes ?
How is the flu ?? ( over here it does not feel very pleasant )

Eef

9W Monighan
03-10-2011, 06:03 PM
Very nice progress Steve the spokes came out real nice.
Are the 19 sheaves for the suspension ropes all the same or a lot of different sizes ?
How is the flu ?? ( over here it does not feel very pleasant )

Eef

They are all the same 20''dia -1.25''scale there are two more called deflection sheaves that are mounted on a small A frame 3/4 up the boom about the same dia. only they mesh together,one with a male flange and the other a female flange. They run on a shaft and can slide back and forth about 3/4'' with the cable swaying and following the spooling and unspooling. I think Lorenzo's Page dragline has a similar setup but closer to the house. I need to get the delection sheaves done, attach the wood planks on the tip and fasten two truck tires (I'm using Lego tires like on Smallhaul's Tonka)
to keep the cable from rubbing the lattace. I noticed some rubbing but nothing major from the Cabin Fever run.
As far as the Flu, I'm only in one day with the Amoxicillin. but getting a little better.

td9clyde
03-10-2011, 06:13 PM
ya need to chill out and take care of yourself and get better then start buildin again lol hope you get better soon then back to buildin

fhhhstix
03-10-2011, 10:01 PM
I got the chance to see the boom for this masterpiece in person at the east coast show and it is just unbelievable the detail and craftsmanship are second to none good job Steve.

Travis

SmallHaul
03-10-2011, 10:42 PM
Nice progress Steve. I hope you are feeling better soon.

9W Monighan
03-16-2011, 02:49 PM
Been working very slow lately. Thought I'd post a couple from this week.
Setting up boom to mill the chords to proper length
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6025/dscn0309u.jpg

Now I need to make plates and attach to the ends so the channel that holds the front pillow block on can be mounted.
That wood block I used temporally for the point sheave came in handy to hold everything in alignment.
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7028/dscn0310uj.jpg

I miscounted the quantity of 1.25'' sheaves needed. I still need about 5 more and 4- 1''dia.
This is the first side then I will flip them over locate to one of the holes and continue milling the pockets.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9991/dscn0311s.jpg

eef7260
03-16-2011, 05:43 PM
Looking good Steve
See that you are running production on the sheaves.
You are going fast.

Eef

lorenzo
03-17-2011, 09:52 AM
Interesting clamp configuration :).
Did you turn the small sheaves manually or via cnc?

BTW: did you get my last pm?

9W Monighan
03-17-2011, 11:11 AM
Eef, I want to get these done. I want to move on to other things on the boom. Pretty boring on the milling operation. It takes 9min.ea to drill the 6 holes and pocket the spokes for the 24pcs. This evening I'm going to program the other side.Probably take close to 15min. each. I could probably go faster but risk breaking my 3/32''carbide endmill. I still need 6 more sheaves that are different size.

Lorenzo, I made each one on my lathe manually:bore,groove,part off, face to thickness.

lorenzo
03-17-2011, 11:35 AM
Oh, very time consuming and boring work. I don't really like those kind of work.
But never the less they look like if they are done by cnc. Keep up the good work.

9W Monighan
03-18-2011, 01:42 PM
Finally got this set done. This is enough to reeve the boom but I still need a a couple smaller to run down to the boom hoist.
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3666/dscn0316i.jpg

Collet fixture to hold in mill
http://img863.imageshack.us/img863/6933/dscn0317.jpg

view showing groove for 1/16'' cable
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/9201/dscn0318h.jpg

kerst
03-18-2011, 04:33 PM
they look beautiful!
Are you going to use ball bearings?

kerst

D8R
03-18-2011, 04:40 PM
Nice wheels, have to get a CNC machine sometime. Was a little surpriced when visiting the show in Germany last november, there was manufactors showing CNC equipment, had never thought about that modeler should be those machines. Now when looking here at the forum I see more and more modeler using those.
Dan

pugs
03-18-2011, 06:16 PM
Nice looking work as always.

doodlebug
03-18-2011, 07:03 PM
Hey Steve, you mentioned a while back, about changing the toggle switch's on your controlbox? Have you seen the joystick controler's in the Automation direct catalog?
http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Pushbuttons_-z-_Switches_-z-_Indicators/22mm_Metal/Joysticks I'm planning on using these for my grader project
(1:1) And alot less than what Grainger want's for sqaure d or telemechanique
Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

9W Monighan
03-18-2011, 09:07 PM
Thanks All
No bearings Kerst, These will run on bronze bushings. They don't rotate enough to ever need ball beraings. The deflection sheaves will run on a bushing too. Those are next to machine.

9W Monighan
03-18-2011, 09:16 PM
Hey Steve, you mentioned a while back, about changing the toggle switch's on your controlbox? Have you seen the joystick controler's in the Automation direct catalog?
http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Pushbuttons_-z-_Switches_-z-_Indicators/22mm_Metal/Joysticks I'm planning on using these for my grader project
(1:1) And alot less than what Grainger want's for sqaure d or telemechanique
Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

Neal, Thanks for the link. This is what I was talking about, I was thinking of taking the guts out of a DX6 or 7 and installing them in these controls from a real machine. I still need swing pedals though. I could eliminate the radio all together and go thru a slip ring with more conductors also.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1461/9wmodel009mv7.jpg

pugs
03-18-2011, 10:18 PM
hmmm, for short range and the room you have, what about a pair of Arduino boards with Xbee wireless on their backs. Just set up to to a few analog and digital IO's???

Brian in PA
03-18-2011, 10:51 PM
That control setup would be pretty cool Steve! is that a old cat pedal I spy in the background? I got a bunch of old pedal tractors, I'm trying to sell 'em. Keep up the good work!

Brian

doodlebug
03-19-2011, 05:30 AM
Hey Steve, I'll keep my eye's open next week, for pot. style controller's. Let me know if you need info on hall effect or encoder style joystick's.
More idea's http://www.jrmerritt.com/ Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

9W Monighan
03-19-2011, 10:33 AM
Jeff, You got me lost. Is this like bluetooth?. I don't know anything about what you talked about but I'm aware it could be done. One of my kids said why not use a playstation 2 controller and I've seen a interface that could use one but I don't want to experiment on new things yet.

Yes Brian That's a D4 pedal tractor. I also have a small ''H'' ,560, 86 series, and a AC 7080 buried in my garage attic.
Neil, I have atleast a dozon different kinds of joy sticks, Master switches from all kinds of stuff I bought on ebay over the years. My design has changed several times and the radio control seemed to be the easiest (Less wires).

pugs
03-19-2011, 11:49 AM
Yes,the Xbee wireless is on a bluetooth frequency, some of the more powerful ones have a 1 mile LOS range.

The Arduino board is a computer programmed logic controller board with (depending on model) several Analog I/O's and Several Digital I/O's as well as a few can be configured as PWM (like servo commands). I've been toying with the idea of making my own Radios if I ever get around to building my own large scale RC equipment. I believe you can even use them with a wireless PS3 controller as well But in your case I would hook up the real controls.

I got this book several weeks ago, is well written and easily understandable. I think if you can handle G-code for the cnc you could handle programming an Arduino board (2 in this case). http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9301

Here's a vid of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxtI7_UQGTw

9W Monighan
03-19-2011, 12:16 PM
Now your talking. That looks very interesting. That pot demo is basically what starts my motor drives. All you need is a variable+10vdc and -10vdc to make the motor go forward or reverse. I will have to look into that in the future. What about interference with similar controls operating nearby or do these work like the 2.4ghz radios?

pugs
03-19-2011, 12:21 PM
I haven't gotten too much into the Xbee cards yet (the wireless portion of the combo), but I do believe its like the 2.4ghz radios in that they have to be bonded together and are on a code to minimize interference.

I would highly suggest buying the arduino book listed above and taking time to read it, if it looks like something you can handle than start experimenting. The plus side of the Arduino board in the model is that it can be used like a little PLC to monitor and adjust things without you having to worry about it, like maybe limit switches or temp sensors to protect something.

SmallHaul
03-19-2011, 12:21 PM
That would be cool to run it with full scale controls. It would also be neat to mount a camera on the house and a monitor in front of the controls to run it.

pugs
03-19-2011, 12:28 PM
Yeah, these little Arduino boards can also be set up with real time feedback as well as they communicate both ways. So things like winch motor temp or something could be monitored at the controls.

I did see some small cams and screen on arduino someplace but not sure about over wireless as the data flow might have been too much for them, but the possibilities are there.

9W Monighan
03-19-2011, 12:47 PM
That would be cool to run it with full scale controls. It would also be neat to mount a camera on the house and a monitor in front of the controls to run it.

Remember me talking at Brownsville last summer in the 90deg heat? I was thinking about building a cab for the 1:1 controls with air conditioning and sit inside so nobody talks to the operator distracting him so he don't screw up the drag:D

tc1cat
03-19-2011, 12:52 PM
HA!! I bet you would get more interruptions in the full sized cab. People would want to see the controls and ask what you were doing in there!! Best bet might be to just wear ear plugs:)

Lynn

9W Monighan
03-19-2011, 12:59 PM
Heck If I made it big enough and like the real ones there's usually a chair for the oiler and I could just draw the shades and sleep in there instead of my truck or tent.

SmallHaul
03-19-2011, 01:51 PM
Remember me talking at Brownsville last summer in the 90deg heat? I was thinking about building a cab for the 1:1 controls with air conditioning and sit inside so nobody talks to the operator distracting him so he don't screw up the drag:D

Yes I do, it was REALLY hot. It was unbelievably hot in the cab of Howards Ensley Drag Line, which is probably why he was happy to let me run it, lol.

Ha, now... I don't know anybody that screws up when talking while operating?:o:D

doodlebug
03-20-2011, 12:15 AM
Hey Steve, sound's like you have it covered for joystick's. Have you thought about having a camera inside the cab, and tv monitor outside. Let them see and no interuptus:eek:
Pug's, thank's for the new link, hadn't heard of ps3 controler's being used yet:D
Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

9W Monighan
03-20-2011, 01:46 PM
Hey Steve, sound's like you have it covered for joystick's. Have you thought about having a camera inside the cab, and tv monitor outside. Let them see and no interuptus:eek:
Pug's, thank's for the new link, hadn't heard of ps3 controler's being used yet:D
Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

Yes I would like to put a camera in the cab. That would make it more challenging to operate. I just need to work a few more hundred hours to get to that point:cool:

9W Monighan
03-23-2011, 10:06 PM
Well, I finally got the tip soldered together. Another milestone crossed. I counted 135pcs that were made for this section of boom excluding about 150 bolts. I hope to get on the safety rope mountings soon. There's also a set of deflection sheaves that help guide the hoist rope I talked about before that are made but I need to design the channels that they mount to.

End Plates
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3484/dscn0337j.jpg

Underside
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/5245/dscn0338i.jpg

Inside of the rear pillow block
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/4685/dscn0339.jpg

Soldered
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2632/dscn0341u.jpg

Last of the lattice that needed installed
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1594/dscn0345d.jpg

Top section
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1347/dscn0346t.jpg

Brian in PA
03-23-2011, 10:09 PM
Yes Brian That's a D4 pedal tractor. I also have a small ''H'' ,560, 86 series, and a AC 7080 buried in my garage attic.


Ya wanta buy any more??:D:D

Brian

kerst
03-23-2011, 10:49 PM
Beautiful!

Kerst

9W Monighan
03-23-2011, 11:21 PM
I doubt it Brian. I don't have any little kids anymore. Now they want diesel pick up trucks.

Thanks, Kerst, I got tired of starring at all the parts so the last two evenings I just had to put it together. I need to learn how to make hand rail and the walkway up the left side now. How will the oilier get up there to grease the point.:p

td9clyde
03-23-2011, 11:28 PM
looks awsome i am still speechless of all the intricit details amaizing keep up the awsome work lol now looks like theres a euclid truck gonna be around to load and i can shove the load around

tc1cat
03-24-2011, 10:38 AM
Almost done?? Hand rails and walkways should be no problem for you. Just take your time:rolleyes::rolleyes:

9W Monighan
03-24-2011, 11:30 AM
I'm never done with anything Lynn,:rolleyes: I'm not sure how high the hand rail is, 42''? A friend stopped the other day and said he had some of the wood from trailer flooring and he could cut me some thin planking for my walkways. I think that stuff is Mahogany? That will look nice. Second choice would be Cherry because of the fine grain. I've spent roughly 7 months of spare time on this boom so far.I can't wait to get out and dig again, now this much of the boom is done it will be more realistic over the temporary boom. I need to get out to the real machine now the weather is getting nicer. I'll be able to get more sizes from the house and the A frame bracing.

modelman
03-24-2011, 11:40 AM
Very nice work as always steve!! Will the boom be painted?

SmallHaul
03-24-2011, 11:43 AM
Looks strong and heavy. I see more counter weight in your future.:)

9W Monighan
03-24-2011, 11:59 AM
I want to darken the brass with black patina hopefully Tom. That's going to take alot of elbow grease to clean everything so it'll take. I could glass bead it but it's too big for my cabinet. I'll have to waste the media into the air I guess. Another media I never tried is baking soda. I don't think it's all the destructive.

Yea, Scott, It is a little heavier we'll have to see how much weight to add. I have lots of room in the floor boards for lead shot.

steamer
03-24-2011, 12:28 PM
Steve. The workmanship on your boom is spectacular. You are a very patient man with all the details your building into it. I've used both soda and dry ice for cleaning up parts. I personally like the dry ice best, because there's no clean up after. They both work very well for detailed parts because their meant for that type of work.
Rob

9W Monighan
03-24-2011, 12:42 PM
Steve. The workmanship on your boom is spectacular. You are a very patient man with all the details your building into it. I've used both soda and dry ice for cleaning up parts. I personally like the dry ice best, because there's no clean up after. They both work very well for detailed parts because their meant for that type of work.
Rob

How does the dry ice method work? Spray a CO2 fire extinguisher at it? I never heard of that other than stripping paint off of airplanes.

steamer
03-24-2011, 01:04 PM
Here's a link to some new small one's.
http://www.coldjet.com/en/products/dry-ice-blasting/index.php?cmp_adv=enGoogleAdWordDIB&gclid=CJGTi_PG56cCFQsGbAodnBc1bA
The one we used the ice came in 4ft square tote and was dumped into a hopper on the machine. I see this small one will use blocks and it even shaves the ice for use. It did a great job of cleaning up the old car body and leaves no rust behind. Two years ago we used a truck mounted one to take the painted runway numbers up at the airbase here. we had a limited time to do it and it worked well. No damage to the concrete.
Rob

9W Monighan
03-24-2011, 01:14 PM
Here's a link to some new small one's.
http://www.coldjet.com/en/products/dry-ice-blasting/index.php?cmp_adv=enGoogleAdWordDIB&gclid=CJGTi_PG56cCFQsGbAodnBc1bA
The one we used the ice came in 4ft square tote and was dumped into a hopper on the machine. I see this small one will use blocks and it even shaves the ice for use. It did a great job of cleaning up the old car body and leaves no rust behind. Two years ago we used a truck mounted one to take the painted runway numbers up at the airbase here. we had a limited time to do it and it worked well. No damage to the concrete.
Rob

Interesting, Pretty expensive I imagine, can one be rented?

steamer
03-24-2011, 01:50 PM
Yes That's what we did and to be honest with you I can't remember the cost, although it was reasonable compared to sand. Sand on old car bodies can be very aggressive depending on the grit. I would guess in your area a look in the yellow pages might work under cleaning and blasting. Someone may have a setup and you could take the boom to them.

ihbuilder
03-24-2011, 02:41 PM
Steve , look into walnut shells . I heard of that being used also

9W Monighan
03-24-2011, 03:52 PM
Steve , look into walnut shells . I heard of that being used also

I thought of walnut too. I used corn cob media to blast my Caterpillar Sixty engine because I didn't want to tear it apart.

eef7260
03-25-2011, 06:14 PM
Wow Steve

This is gone be one of the most detailed and beautiful booms i have seen.
I see you are searching for blasting methods i think you will be a extremely happy when that is done.

When the whole boom is done and blasted you need to sit down around it with a few good friends and simply look at it and enjoy it for hours and a have few beer. :):)

Eef

9W Monighan
03-26-2011, 01:29 PM
Wow Steve

This is gone be one of the most detailed and beautiful booms i have seen.
I see you are searching for blasting methods i think you will be a extremely happy when that is done.

When the whole boom is done and blasted you need to sit down around it with a few good friends and simply look at it and enjoy it for hours and a have few beer. :):)

Eef

I'll be enjoying a few cold ones while digging soon. All I need is the boom lighting for the second shift:D

ihbuilder
03-26-2011, 03:28 PM
I'll be enjoying a few cold ones while digging soon. All I need is the boom lighting for the second shift:D

LOL :D and a truck to load :p

eef7260
03-26-2011, 05:44 PM
LOL and a truck to load

A truck load of beer ?? :):)

rc_farmer
03-29-2011, 10:35 AM
Your metal workis off the chart!!! Fantastic job on the boom. I wish i had the "metal" skills you guys. I'm still learning how to chuck-up my lathe :D

9W Monighan
03-29-2011, 10:52 AM
Your metal workis off the chart!!! Fantastic job on the boom. I wish i had the "metal" skills you guys. I'm still learning how to chuck-up my lathe :D

My brain is recharging for the next step I have to take and that's to remove the ''A'' frame and drill a few hundred more holes for the diagonal bracing and mainly I need to get the suspension rope sheaves mounted up there.

Just watch you don't chuck up your lathe too much. Maybe you need a bigger chucker.:eek::D

9W Monighan
04-04-2011, 09:31 PM
Got alittle done this weekend on the boom suspension ropes. Not much because I'm getting parts ready to go to the sand blaster for my antique road grader restoration.

I had to drill the "A" frame sheave shafts at a 3deg angle so they will track inline with the boom taper to the point.
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1707/dscn0361e.jpg

The shafts for the point sheaves
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2817/dscn0360l.jpg

I didn't have any 3/8'' hex stock handy,so I milled some round stock to suit.
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2681/dscn0359q.jpg

modelman
04-06-2011, 01:04 PM
Steve-very nice as always! How did you drill accurately thru both pcs. of metal with the A-frame mounted at an angle. Or is this secret stuff?:D

pugs
04-06-2011, 01:24 PM
Spot drill both layers

9W Monighan
04-06-2011, 02:23 PM
Steve-very nice as always! How did you drill accurately thru both pcs. of metal with the A-frame mounted at an angle. Or is this secret stuff?:D

Well PUGS is partly correct. Originally I drilled the big plates stacked together with a 1/4'' hole. But when I did that I forgot about the 3deg angle. When I fabricated the channels I didn't drill them. When I set this up,I located the outer hole with my Co-ax indicator then I plunged a 1/4'' endmill down to spot face the next layer (channel) and that made the plate hole oblong. Next I went in with a 7/32'' screw machine drill because I don't have a long center drill handy and drilled through the second and got a longer drill bit for the third. Next came a 15/64'' drill then the 1/4'' reamer. Finally I drilled everything out with a 9/32'' drill. I would have bored to the finish size of 9/32'' if I had a longer boring tool that would fit in a 1/4'' hole. I need to make some bushings that fit the hole and will have the a 1/4'' bore for the shaft yet to come.
All the diagonal bracing in the "A" frame is going to be real fun to figure out. Currently I'm going over my designs from 3yrs ago making sure where to place all the holes for them.
I'm also looking into the wire rope needed. I need a total of 240' of 7x19 3/64'' for the boom. One of the 4 pieces is 167' and that's a small problem. I found I guy on ebay with 100' coils,none longer cheap. I'm going to have to bite the bullet and order from McMaster Carr now and it'll be around $215 instead of the $30 :mad: I checked at a local cable and sling co. near me and they couldn't get any either. They did have coated galvanized they use in race car parachutes I could have for next to nothing but too stiff and the OD slightly larger and won't fit in my sheaves.

td9clyde
04-06-2011, 02:31 PM
nice work on the point sounds like your having cable problems like me i can't find anything that isn't stiff like the 7 twist galvanized in 1/16th and thats kinda what i need just not so stiff..........keep up the awsome work

9W Monighan
04-06-2011, 02:38 PM
nice work on the point sounds like your having cable problems like me i can't find anything that isn't stiff like the 7 twist galvanized in 1/16th and thats kinda what i need just not so stiff..........keep up the awsome work

Use the .038'' 7x19 . 1/16 sounds out of scale for the Terex. It probably had 1/2 or 5/8'' originally. I have some and it's very flexible. Check McMaster Carr $1.69/ft.:eek:

pugs
04-06-2011, 02:42 PM
Be sure and call Mcmaster and make sure its a continous roll you're buying. Seems like everytime I buy stuff from them its from a diff company and slightly diff stuff.

9W Monighan
04-06-2011, 02:48 PM
Be sure and call Mcmaster and make sure its a continous roll you're buying. Seems like everytime I buy stuff from them its from a diff company and slightly diff stuff.

You know I was thinking that too. If I could buy from a manufacturer I could be assured. The sling outfit tried 3 places for me and resulted the dreaded minimum qty. well I'd buy more if the price per foot would be lower.

td9clyde
04-06-2011, 03:01 PM
Use the .038'' 7x19 . 1/16 sounds out of scale for the Terex. It probably had 1/2 or 5/8'' originally. I have some and it's very flexible. Check McMaster Carr $1.69/ft.:eek:

lol i would but i don't really know the size yea the real cable is 5/8 i need to look at some in person i guess is what i am tryin to say lol

eef7260
04-06-2011, 03:57 PM
Hi Steve

Did you try sailing boat shops , i was lucky there.
They use all sort of sizes , and small ones too for on those small 1 person sail boats.
Over here they even sell 1 mm ( i think thats something like 5/128 ) stainless steel.
And from there the sizes go up.
And it's very flexible as well because it has many small wires.
Give google a try for your area
here is an example http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=756292&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=10102&subdeptNum=10242&classNum=10244

Eef

9W Monighan
04-06-2011, 04:08 PM
Hi Steve

Did you try sailing boat shops , i was lucky there.
They use all sort of sizes , and small ones too for on those small 1 person sail boats.
Over here they even sell 1 mm ( i think thats something like 5/128 ) stainless steel.
And from there the sizes go up.
And it's very flexible as well because it has many small wires.
Give google a try for your area
here is an example http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=756292&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=10102&subdeptNum=10242&classNum=10244

Eef


Pugs just sent me this outfit.http://www.savacable.com/pages/prod_01_00.html
I'm waiting for a call back. I see a 3/64'' 7x49;) That would be really flexible.

pugs
04-06-2011, 04:15 PM
Yeah and they have a 250' min on stock sizes and a $150. min order, which is less than the mcmaster. Plus they have fittings and thimbles too.

modelman
04-06-2011, 04:25 PM
Steve-thanks for the explanation. I guess there is a way to do anything if you have the correct tools. I sometimes forget how big your model is and that makes a difference. On my little truck a 4-40 screw hole is a big hole.:)

grumpygrady
04-07-2011, 01:00 AM
if you will check with your local beading store they have what you need
it will come in 7 ,21 or 28,49 strand beading wire was called foxtail a long time ago
or check fire mountain gems on the net one roll is 60 yards and around $20
they have it in colours and stainless and silver or gold if you have the money
even have it in nylon

or rio grande or any jewelry supply store

if you need i will post web address's tomorrow for it

9W Monighan
04-07-2011, 08:52 AM
Thanks Grumpygrady, I googled it and found it. Looks like it only comes coated and max dia. of .024'' That would be too small for my application. There's a Michael's craft store about 3/4mile away from me. I'll get some anyway if they have it, and see what it looks like.

9W Monighan
04-11-2011, 10:10 AM
Well, It looks like buying from McMaster Carr is cheaper than buying from their supplier (Sava Cable). I was quoted $150min order(no problem with my required footage) $1.08/ft for 250ft of 7x19 and $2.59/ft for some really flexible 7x49. That stuff would be real nice on smaller models.
McMaster is around $.87/ft for the 7x19

pugs
04-11-2011, 01:05 PM
Wow, was worth a try anyway.

D8R
04-11-2011, 03:07 PM
Will the 7x19 (is that 7parts with 19 treads in each, or 7mm with 19 treads) have shorter life lenght than 7x49??
Guess it depends on minimum radie that the cable can be run with,
Dan

Car5858
04-11-2011, 03:21 PM
This link has an end view that explains this.

http://www1.mscdirect.com/eCommerce/NavigationServlet/Material-Handling-Storage/Chain-Rope-Wire-Rope-Hardware/Wire-Rope-Cable-Accessories/Wire-Rope-Cable/_/N-77gk3?refinement=4292465781&searchandizedOk=Y

sparkycuda
04-12-2011, 12:14 AM
Here's another source to try for the cable. They have a variety of sizes and configurations - 3/64" 7X19 is just one of the choices. The catalog I have is about 3 years old, so you'd have to check for current prices.
Precision Scale Model Engineering, [URL="http://www.psmescale.com"][EMAIL="psme@psmescale.com"], phone 508-478-3148.

Ken

9W Monighan
04-14-2011, 05:52 PM
Thanks Ken for the link. I didn't see any products though. Do you have to order their catalog to see what they offer?

steamer
04-14-2011, 06:14 PM
Steve. I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but you can get very small cable from any of the overhead garage door people. I got some from a guy here and it was 1/8" dia SS and very flexible.
Rob

steamer
04-14-2011, 06:20 PM
There's also the cable here, it's .017 SS Dia.
http://store.rc4wd.com/Bulldog-Replacement-Winch-Line_p_1168.html
It may be available in longer lengths.
Rob

sparkycuda
04-14-2011, 11:56 PM
I think the only way to see the product is in the manual; however, I've called and emailed questions and always had good response. Perhaps if you contacted them, they could furnish pictures or info. The book does not really have a picture of the cable - a size and type chart and explanation diagrams to show what a 7X19 designation means, for example. It is not a hi-tech book, mostly B&W images of products, but a section of color/slick info on small power tools, machining equipment, etc.

They do have supplies, material and tools I've not seen elsewhere.

Hope that helps a bit.

Ken

9W Monighan
04-20-2011, 10:14 AM
Well after the big computer crash last week I'm back running but big problems with my Cad Cam program working with Windows 7. Luckily I still have all my files and thousands of pictures from the old hard drive still there. I have it fixed partially and will be looking for another old computer with XP or Vista. to run just the BobCad stuff. I also found out my old Autocad 2000LT won't work either. Now I have to buy a new version for 2012:mad:
I would have had some more done on the A frame if I wasn't occupied with these computers.
Today I ordered 100' of 3/64'' cable off ebay but not enough for all the suspension ropes to try on the boom. I want to try to get it ready by May 8th for the Lakeside Sand and Gravel show and then May 20-22 Brownsville,PA.

Car5858
04-20-2011, 10:29 AM
Sorry to hear that your system went down.:( As for getting a copy of 2012, don't bother, it has many problems with compatiablity. If you can find AutoCad 2009, that would be the one to use. It is the most stable since 2008 release.
Autocad 2000 full version dosen't require a key code and can be loaded onto any xp or win 7 64bit computer. You just have to make sure that your Win 7 installation can run 64 and 32 bit programs.

I will try to locate you a copy of the Acad 2000 version if you want.

Carl

9W Monighan
04-20-2011, 10:46 AM
Sorry to hear that your system went down.:( As for getting a copy of 2012, don't bother, it has many problems with compatiablity. If you can find AutoCad 2009, that would be the one to use. It is the most stable since 2008 release.
Autocad 2000 full version dosen't require a key code and can be loaded onto any xp or win 7 64bit computer. You just have to make sure that your Win 7 installation can run 64 and 32 bit programs.

I will try to locate you a copy of the Acad 2000 version if you want.

Carl
Thanks Carl,
I tried the 2000LT but it wouldn't load because of the 32bit vs 64bit.
I don't know how to operate Autocad very well but now I'm forced to learn. I downloaded a demo of 2012LT and It is working slow but I guess that's because it's running through the internet. It's really hard for me to learn how to do any new things these days. I guess my brain is working without enough Ram:D

doodlebug
04-21-2011, 12:07 AM
Thank's for posting the Lakeside open house. I met Larry last month in Vegas,
"He's a wonderful guy to know"! Met him at the HCEA Both.
Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

Car5858
04-21-2011, 10:46 AM
I guess my brain is working without enough Ram:D

Confusion is my default setting:rolleyes:

I stopped by the post office this morning, you should have it by Wednesday.:cool:

9W Monighan
04-25-2011, 11:04 PM
Well I managed to get some done this weekend on some of the suspension rope sheaves. I still need to make some brackets that'll get attached to the boom chords that will hold the small shackles I made up.
Steps for making a shackle:
Turn a 3/8'' sq.
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6644/dscn0364pp.jpg
Mill inside flat
http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/1204/dscn0366b.jpg


http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5328/dscn0368a.jpg

Bend
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9073/dscn0367x.jpg

Mill ends round
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4256/dscn0369at.jpg

Finished parts
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/6687/dscn0370e.jpg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2904/dscn0371nk.jpg

TheMachinist
04-25-2011, 11:37 PM
No detail left untouched:cool:
You are without a doubt one of the best craftsmen I've seen work with metal.

Jordy

Brian in PA
04-26-2011, 08:09 AM
Truly amazing work Steve!!:eek::eek:

Brian

SmallHaul
04-26-2011, 09:49 AM
Nice work Steve. That is amazing that you could make that piece out of a solid piece of 3/8 stock and bend it centered so that the ends line up! Very nice looking parts too!

tc1cat
04-26-2011, 09:50 AM
Now that is just showing off:rolleyes::rolleyes: I have got to see this in person:D
Steve, are you going to try and make the NAMES show in Detroit this weekend????

Car5858
04-26-2011, 10:03 AM
Nice demo on making the shackles Steve.:cool::cool:

9W Monighan
04-26-2011, 12:42 PM
I do alot of metal bending in my regular job. I could have made them a little nicer if I took the time to make a better jig rather than using a flat bar with a 1/8'' drill bit to get the radius started and then press them into a die Funny thing, when I got to the bottom of the pile of sheaves I discovered 3 that had a smaller bore. These were supposed to be used on the three shackles. I made the OD to match the larger bores:o I need to go back and mill the ends down smaller. I wondered why they looked so big:o Man the eye sight is really needed to blend the ends to make them look like a forged piece with the Dremel tool.
I hate stopping on something and forgetting what I was doing a month prior:rolleyes:

Car5858
04-26-2011, 12:50 PM
I forget where I am on a project also at times. Lately I have started writing myself reminder notes.:confused: is normally my defult setting.:)

D8R
04-26-2011, 05:12 PM
wow, had never been able to duplicate that work, Steve.
Still hope to see that machine in real. Nice drawings to!
Dan

9W Monighan
05-01-2011, 09:51 PM
Finally I got the safety rope brackets made and fastened to the boom. I hope to raise the boom this week with the new $180 worth of wire rope I bought.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2118/dscn0372u.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4307/dscn0374k.jpg

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1987/dscn0376a.jpg

Those Lego tires seem to be the correct scale so I'll wire them on the top.
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/2604/dscn0377f.jpg

Car5858
05-01-2011, 10:27 PM
Nice progress Steve :cool:

doodlebug
05-01-2011, 11:13 PM
http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=soda+blaster
Hey Steve does this help answer the previous question on soda blasting?
Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

9W Monighan
05-02-2011, 12:28 AM
http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=soda+blaster
Hey Steve does this help answer the previous question on soda blasting?
Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

I looked those over. There's a Harbor Freight 1 mile up the street from my shop. I may get one sometime soon. I definitely need to clean the boom of all the acid from the solder flux. I noticed the steel socket head cap screws were rusting some after sitting a couple months.

dirtpusher9
05-03-2011, 06:54 PM
Wow Steve, the shackles and sheaves are amazing. The boom is huge and very realistic looking. Nice work as usual. Ready to see it working, in person, that is.

9W Monighan
05-04-2011, 10:23 PM
Wow Steve, the shackles and sheaves are amazing. The boom is huge and very realistic looking. Nice work as usual. Ready to see it working, in person, that is.
Thanks Joe, The shiny black shackles are from RC4x4 they are really nice.


Here is another big milestone in this build! I took the time this evening to reeve all the wire ropes that hold the boom. I need to design some miniature Crosby Clamps instead of using the copper sleeves.
I need to make a tool to smash them better than the wire terminal pliers I'm using.:mad:

Next step is to get the boom hoist winch installed and see if it has enough power to lift the boom off the ground. While pulling it up with my hand it was easy after it was up about 10deg.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5624/dscn0378v.jpg

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/6259/dscn0381q.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2467/dscn0382v.jpg

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/5310/dscn0386f.jpg

http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/2585/dscn0387v.jpg

http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/4489/dscn0388qj.jpg

td9clyde
05-04-2011, 10:47 PM
simply in awwww just amaizing the detail still blows my mind on this crane

ihbuilder
05-04-2011, 11:16 PM
:eek::eek: I wanna see this again soon :eek::eek: great work Steve :cool:

TheMachinist
05-05-2011, 12:03 AM
I've said it before and will again WOW!!!!!!!!!!
The details are incredible.
Did you build a line truck just for rigging it;)

Car5858
05-05-2011, 12:19 AM
amaized as always when I look at this thread. I have new respect for the length of the boom now.

Did you have the shop door open for these pic's?

Carl

9W Monighan
05-05-2011, 09:12 AM
amaized as always when I look at this thread. I have new respect for the length of the boom now.

Did you have the shop door open for these pic's?

Carl

Thanks everybody again.
Carl, The shop is big enough. I just need a 16' enclosed trailer now to haul it
with the boom attached or build a water tight shipping crate for my gooseneck or skidsteer trailer. I remembered to measure the overall length with boom lowered and it came to 13'-5'' long.
I'm going to try to fit in one of our work vans this weekend by resting the boom point on the dash board. I don't really want to use the big cube van with the V10 gas hog:eek:

Car5858
05-05-2011, 09:56 AM
:cool: Thanks Steve, I do understand about the gas hog:mad:. So, maybe a special trailer just for the DL and its support equipment would be worth looking at.

D8R
05-05-2011, 01:51 PM
wow, so nice!!!! Incredable details.
Dan

Jared
05-05-2011, 11:38 PM
That's looking great! I like the catenary in the hoist cables. It's little things like that that make it look even more authentic.

SmallHaul
05-06-2011, 09:40 AM
It looks awesome with all the rigging. It makes it look massive even though it is a model.

9W Monighan
05-07-2011, 11:56 PM
I finally got the boom hoist attached to the machinery deck and was able to boom up under power for the first time.
The motor I used had no problem raising it. We timed it today and it takes about 15minutes to get up to 25 degrees.
Tiny 0-80 set screws
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1082/dscn0391s.jpg
I wish I would have had a sharper endmill when I made the hoist,My new camera picks up all the bad details:o
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/605/dscn0394y.jpg
A full drum of cable.
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7292/dscn0396o.jpg

While getting the drag ready for Sunday I decided to drill and tap the drag jaw clutch bolts. When I'm pulling in hard it would slip because it was only pressed in. Now we'll have to watch we don't pull too hard digging because the only weak point is the motor coupling. Or it may just drag the whole machine into the pit:p
Complete load unit. And walking pinion.
http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/8493/dscn0398.jpg

Tapered lock bushing I made to lock the gear to the shaft.
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2779/dscn0399vp.jpg

Exploded view
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/2811/dscn0400ck.jpg

Bearings
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1198/dscn0401n.jpg

steamer
05-08-2011, 03:41 AM
Steve. Some of the finest machining I've seen in a long time. After all the time you've put in, it must give you lots of satisfaction seeing this come together.
Rob

eef7260
05-08-2011, 05:36 PM
Super job Steve
You make big progress in a short amount of time.
Looking forward to your next picture post.
That big gearwheel on the clutch axle is that from an lathe ?? it looks extreme good in the crane like it's made for it.
And i have to agree with you on the sharpness of your end mills , but i noticed that i have never seen you using coolant fluid.
It increases the life time of your end mills a lot , and also the quality of the milled surfaces.

Eef

9W Monighan
05-08-2011, 11:46 PM
Thanks Rob.

Eef,
I think on that boom hoist I was using roughing endmills and forgot to add a little material to finish now I think of it. When building it I was just hogging metal here and there to try to get it as close to the 1:1 as possible. All and all it works very well. I do brush some Cool Tool oil on as needed.
The big gear is from a set of change gears I had a box full of them and used what was close to the 1:1 machine. Later on I acquired some blueprints and found that if I would have used the next finer tooth pitch (18DP) I would have been right on to scale. The one pictured is 16DP. I have been thinking about redoing some of the machinery now that I have all the blueprints but that will be later on in the future.

9W Monighan
05-09-2011, 11:50 AM
Here are links to a couple videos I shot yesterday at the Lakeside Sand and Gravel show. The weather was perfect. I ran the 9W almost nonstop for 5hrs and moved a huge amount of sand. I only had one breakdown with the drag rope coming undone. It was quickly repaired by a crew of guys who ran draglines and one of them spent alot of time stripping coal with a 9W years ago. If the kids wouldn't have smashed it down so many times my pile would have been about 5 feet tall. They had a great time getting their Tonka dump filled though. :)
http://www.youtube.com/user/Scentlessapprentice9

http://www.youtube.com/user/Scentlessapprentice9#p/a/u/1/JJiUlmlvOzY

Car5858
05-09-2011, 12:29 PM
Looks like everyone had fun.:cool::cool:

9W Monighan
05-09-2011, 12:58 PM
A couple pictures.
http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/8214/dscn0410.jpg

http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/3554/dscn0405l.jpg

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2564/dscn0408n.jpg

http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/5853/dscn0407v.jpg

steamer
05-09-2011, 01:17 PM
Steve. I don't know who was having the most fun, you or the kids. Machine works fantastic!!!
Rob

Stuff
05-09-2011, 02:01 PM
I need to design some miniature Crosby Clamps instead of using the copper sleeves.
I need to make a tool to smash them better than the wire terminal pliers I'm using.:mad:

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2467/dscn0382v.jpg




these are the kind you need.
http://www.gwrltd.co.uk/images/tools7.jpg

JensR
05-09-2011, 03:27 PM
Now, that's a day out to my liking! Superb!

sparkycuda
05-09-2011, 05:10 PM
No words to describe the detail on this machine. Outstanding!! :):)

rcguyfarms
05-09-2011, 07:04 PM
is there any info on orange conveyor system?

Trucker47
05-09-2011, 07:34 PM
looks great! i must say im really happy to see the kids actually playing in the dirt, all the kids at my high school and kids at the elementary school right by use just want cell phones and Xbox... wheres the fun in that? i loved playing trucks in the dirt :D

Chris

9W Monighan
05-09-2011, 11:02 PM
is there any info on orange conveyor system?

Conveyors where built by the owner of the gravel pit about 30yrs ago for his son. It's been featured in some trade magazines dealing in the gravel business. He takes it to all of our HCEA events for the kids to play with. My kids played with it when they were little too. I didn't get a good shot of the Sauerman dragline part but it can be seen. That part takes some skill using both hands and you have to turn the cranks in opposite directions to work it. Sort of like rubbing your stomach and patting your head jumping on one leg.:D
I think Larry used to sell the conveyors and the shaker when he had time to make them up. They were 1/16th scale and matched the Smith Miller Trucks from the 50's.

modelman
05-12-2011, 10:35 PM
Steve-great work as always! You have got a lot done since I last checked in! Videos looked like fun. That one little boy sitting by the dirt pile looked very interested-maybe the next generation dragline operator? Are you happy with the time it takes to boom up under power?

SmallHaul
05-12-2011, 10:56 PM
Great videos Steve! Looks like you had fun. The boom really looks nice.

9W Monighan
05-12-2011, 11:15 PM
Steve-great work as always! You have got a lot done since I last checked in! Videos looked like fun. That one little boy sitting by the dirt pile looked very interested-maybe the next generation dragline operator? Are you happy with the time it takes to boom up under power?

Thanks, Tom, The little boy watching I found out later from his dad who drives for the gravel company is a very observant fellow. He told me he sees things around the pit that aren't correct and tells him about it. Funny thing, I was watching him and was thinking about handing him the controls and see how he would do before his dad filled me in. But he told me after I packed the machine up in the van.
As far as booming up. From flat on the ground to 25deg it takes about 16 minutes. Not bad at all. I had it set up at 25deg but the way I was digging on the flat area in front ,There wasn't too much room to hoist near the fairlead.
Next week when I take it out again (I hope) I'm going to try 30deg that makes the point about 9.5'' higher,and see how that works. I want to make a miniature boom angle meter to go on the base near the operator. But for now I know the measurement on the boom to the A frame for the angle.
I definitely need to build the bucket correctly because if you notice in the video, the bucket just slides along the bottom of my cut not digging at all. That will be remedied when I redo the cutting edge and angle the teeth down. I think 23deg a guy told me who had years of experience on drags.

TheMachinist
05-13-2011, 12:54 AM
Great video! It's good to see the kids out and interacting at the show. The Dragline works very well. You are going to have to put an hour meter on it and see how much it runs per year;)

9W Monighan
05-13-2011, 08:22 AM
Great video! It's good to see the kids out and interacting at the show. The Dragline works very well. You are going to have to put an hour meter on it and see how much it runs per year;)

I bought an hour meter last winter on ebay. I just haven't wired everything the way I want it yet so it's not installed yet. It's even a tiny one:http://cgi.ebay.com/Electro-Dynamics-hour-meter-totalizing-miniature-durant-/120391516763?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c07e4c25b

TheMachinist
05-13-2011, 11:18 AM
Nice! Thanks for the link. I might have to get a couple for my dads equipment just for fun.

modelman
05-13-2011, 12:23 PM
Steve-I did see the bucket sliding a little. One thing I found with my dragline is by raising the location of the chain attachment points on the bucket makes a big difference. The teeth on my bucket are not angled down enough either (I didn't know they needed to be) but by playing with all the rigging placements I was able to make it dig. I found very small changes made a big difference in the way it worked but maybe because my model is small.

mog
05-15-2011, 01:14 PM
looks good you where digging like a pro there. good thing smallhall was not there or i be he would have try to get his hands on that unit crane front shoval. modelman is right about the lip angle on the bucket makes a big difference. on the real ones just by chaning the teeth angle from the adaptor out makes a big diffence. i will look and see i think we have a cad drawing of an esco bucket that you could scale.

Car5858
05-15-2011, 02:11 PM
Mog, if you have the drawing it will take a few seconds to scale with the "scale" command. Love that tool.:)

9W Monighan
05-15-2011, 08:40 PM
looks good you where digging like a pro there. good thing smallhall was not there or i be he would have try to get his hands on that unit crane front shoval. modelman is right about the lip angle on the bucket makes a big difference. on the real ones just by chaning the teeth angle from the adaptor out makes a big diffence. i will look and see i think we have a cad drawing of an esco bucket that you could scale.

By all means get me a drawing. I have a salesman sample of an ESCO bucket and I used it some to build this bucket only I didn't finish it yet as you can see. I'm planning on cutting the teeth off and make up a new cutting edge that may have replaceable teeth. If I had some exact sizes that would make the process way faster.
Carl, I was just playing around with the scaling function in Autocad Friday. Still getting used to ACad and really like it so far. When I drew the 9W side profile back a couple years ago, I drew 1:1 and resized to 1/16. I did that with BobcAD then,it has the same function.

Car5858
05-15-2011, 08:48 PM
That is great Steve, I always draw 1:1 then copy and scale. This way I can get more than one drawing. I have used view ports a few times, but model space is the best for me.:)

9W Monighan
05-24-2011, 09:16 AM
Here are a few pictures from the Brownsville,PA show last weekend. We had great weather with just a hour or so of rain on Sunday morning. I was able to move a lot of dirt with the 9W and not one breakdown for a change;)

Don't ask why Mike wanted to try to scape that mud hole out:confused:
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4199/dscn0466i.jpg

Me on the D6 unloading a #60 pan
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2614/dscn0468z.jpg

Mike on the 10B He started operating this machine when his legs were long enough to reach the pedals at age 9.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/453/dscn0454n.jpg

Now some 9W pictures. I was supposed to be set up in the building but we couldn't find the key to that green road grader but it wasn't too much of a problem.
http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/3996/dscn0442t.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1377/dscn0444z.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9748/dscn0446er.jpg
The bucket doesn't load too bad for a temporary one. I'm going to redo the cutting edge and put all the wear plates on it soon.
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/1042/dscn0447j.jpg

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/5741/dscn0445o.jpg
http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/5951/dscn0443bm.jpg
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/7517/dscn0449c.jpg

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8746/dscn0458g.jpg

I had a visiteor show up Saturday night while running under my temporary boom lighting.
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1283/dscn0462e.jpg
He decided to leave when I tried to scoop him up in my bucket. :D
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/1927/dscn0463m.jpg

Big Loader Little Dragline
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7529/dscn0464yh.jpg

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/5929/dscn0461p.jpg

CAT315C
05-24-2011, 09:40 AM
I can not see the pictures, what would it take to look at the pictures

Thanks

SmallHaul
05-24-2011, 09:55 AM
Nice pictures Steve. Looks like you had a good time.

D8R
05-24-2011, 11:44 AM
Looks like you had a good time there, wish I could have been there too! Looking forward to videos.
Dan

td9clyde
05-24-2011, 06:06 PM
awsome job i like the detail on this crain

doodlebug
05-24-2011, 07:49 PM
Thank's for sharing, wish I could have been there!
Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

9W Monighan
05-25-2011, 08:21 AM
I can not see the pictures, what would it take to look at the pictures

Thanks

I don't know why you can't see the pictures. Anybody have any ideas?


Here are the videos I took:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59FR27c9BwE&feature=player_profilepage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxjhHGzO8Ks&feature=player_profilepage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xKlkUKnfl4&feature=player_profilepage

.

Brel
05-25-2011, 10:38 AM
Awesome piece of kit, a well crafted Model of a dragline
Been reading this topic for ages and finally decided to post a comment
about twenty years ago I was working in demolition (when I was younger and fitter (now 48) and was watching the dragline operator that was knocking down a pre-fab concrete building with a 1/2 ton ball, he was getting the building down in no time at all and was a artisan at driving the machine, I believe it was a Ruston-Bucyrus machine and ran on tracks, it was of 1950's vintage, I sat in the machine one lunch time and went what the **** do all these levers and pedals do, I had not got a clue.

modelman
05-25-2011, 12:15 PM
Looks like a great day steve! That's a big pile of dirt there. Maybe a yard?? The 9W must have been working perfect. That looks like sand. If so did you have any problems with the sand binding the moving parts on the bucket?

9W Monighan
05-25-2011, 01:09 PM
Looks like a great day steve! That's a big pile of dirt there. Maybe a yard?? The 9W must have been working perfect. That looks like sand. If so did you have any problems with the sand binding the moving parts on the bucket?

The soil is sandy and packs when wet but not like the river sand pile from two weeks ago. Good thing the soil is sandy because over the years we get rain at the show but it dries quickly thank God.
There were no problems with anything binding up on the bucket. It digs nice but I still want to make the bucket as close to the 1:1 as humanly possible. We still need to learn a good digging pattern so we aren't sliding sideways as seen in the video a time or two.
I hope one of you guys bring a dozer some day to clean the roll in front of the fairlead such as a certain Terex or D8 :rolleyes:

modelman
05-25-2011, 04:07 PM
Thanks steve-the reason I ask these questions are based on the troubles I have had with my dragline. Sometimes the fine dirt gets in the trunions and the bucket will not dump. I have to take it apart and clean it. It's not a big job but I know the real draglines don't have this problem. I must have done something wrong but not sure what.

9W Monighan
07-27-2011, 01:48 PM
I haven't done anything on the 9W for a while but one thing I need to do before taking it out in two weeks is, I need to machine 6 cleats that go on the bottom of the shoes. I scanned a drawing and they can be seen in black on the drawings. These little Vee's will enable the machine to walk better with some traction. What happens now is, it will either just slip or pivot around the other one getting a little more traction. This is very frustrating when on any kind of incline especially. Just ask Scot and Ed.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7109/scan0003ww.jpg

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5771/scan0002z.jpg

9W Monighan
08-01-2011, 07:16 PM
Here is my progress on the walking shoe cleats. I think now we'll be able to walk up a 10% grade. Definitely on level ground too. I should add about 15-20lbs ballast in the rear of the revolving frame to compensate for the boom now installed because the edge of the tub is somewhat heavy and not sliding along easily while walking.:cool:

Roughed in pieces:
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2977/dscn0631i.jpg

Cutting a 45deg. bevel:
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8996/dscn0632al.jpg

Beveling the ends:
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/224/dscn0633m.jpg

Attached with #1-72 screws:
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/616/dscn0634p.jpg

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4601/dscn0635i.jpg

Ready to walk again:
http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/7655/dscn0636.jpg

SmallHaul
08-01-2011, 07:42 PM
Good job Steve. That will make loading a lot easier too.

ihbuilder
08-01-2011, 10:46 PM
:eek: nice work Steve :) I need 1 of those tables now how to ask mrs IH for it :rolleyes: I'm gathering more stuff for the 40 ;)

tc1cat
08-02-2011, 09:03 AM
Looks like it should do the trick for you. :D I want the full size equipment besides the adjustable table:rolleyes: What I wouldn't give to have room for full sized machinery:(

9W Monighan
08-02-2011, 10:15 AM
Good job Steve. That will make loading a lot easier too.
I can't wait to try next week.

:eek: nice work Steve :) I need 1 of those tables now how to ask mrs IH for it :rolleyes: I'm gathering more stuff for the 40 ;)
I think I paid around $40 for that:confused:

Looks like it should do the trick for you. :D I want the full size equipment besides the adjustable table:rolleyes: What I wouldn't give to have room for full sized machinery:(
May need to find a way to add on. ;)

td9clyde
08-02-2011, 08:37 PM
awsome work Hopefully sometime i can see this thing in person lol

9W Monighan
08-03-2011, 09:16 AM
awsome work Hopefully sometime i can see this thing in person lol

Just get on I70 east and come down to Brownsville,PA on the 12th. Don't forget to bring your dozers.

9W Monighan
08-09-2011, 07:43 PM
Getting ready for this weekend for another "BIG DIG" I finally took the time to build a suitable shipping box for my machine. It measures 174''x40''w x 48''h. Now I'll be able to haul it on my gooseneck trailer with some other stuff.
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7647/dscn0648f.jpg

I want to put some eyebolts on the sides to hook a bungee cord to give the boom a cradle for a cushion ride.
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8995/dscn0647z.jpg

Another quick fix was to break some welds on the bucket so I could bend the teeth down a few degrees to give it a better bite. This is still going to be a temporary bucket till I can fabricate a better replica.
A quick set up in my press brake did the trick:
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/906/dscn0645o.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3397/dscn0646y.jpg

D8R
08-10-2011, 12:12 PM
Nice box, guess it can be used shipping the machine abroad:rolleyes:

Temporary bucket, hmm, guess I would be more than happy with a final bucket like that one!

Couldn´t make it to Brownsville next weekend :mad: hope to do it next year, this is a very fine show, I would say the best one.

Dan

9W Monighan
08-11-2011, 11:43 PM
Nice box, guess it can be used shipping the machine abroad:rolleyes:

Temporary bucket, hmm, guess I would be more than happy with a final bucket like that one!

Couldn´t make it to Brownsville next weekend :mad: hope to do it next year, this is a very fine show, I would say the best one.

Dan

I guess I would have to make the box much heavier. But you know, you could ship the D8 over in a much smaller box so we can test it for reliability in the dirt! You could even fly over next spring and I would let you try your dozer too.:p
I talked to Smallhaul earlier this evening and he was already at Brownsville. I was still loading my trailer so I can leave home tomorrow early. From his report the Thew steam shovel has to be moved out of the shed so we can get our pile of dirt under roof in case it rains this weekend.

Brian in PA
08-12-2011, 12:13 AM
Hey Steve, we'll see you out there. I'm taking the fifth wheel and we'll be camping there all weekend

Brian

modelman
08-12-2011, 11:32 AM
Nice work steve-you should think about becoming a machinist :D :D!! That should give you good traction now. The show sounds like fun! I hope you have someone to take lots of pictures and videos!

ihbuilder
08-12-2011, 01:40 PM
Nice work steve-you should think about becoming a machinist :D :D!! That should give you good traction now. The show sounds like fun! I hope you have someone to take lots of pictures and videos!

X2 since I can't be there :(

9W Monighan
08-23-2011, 05:30 PM
Adding some pictures of my machine to this thread I have elsewhere on the forum.
Aerial view from the D9G
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7955/dscn0650a.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3023/dscn0653p.jpg
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/8465/dscn0652p.jpg
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4598/dscn0664l.jpg
I clamped my camera on where the operator's cab will be to get an operators perspective.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/1935/dscn0667c.jpg
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/3609/dscn0668c.jpg
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/750/dscn0669c.jpg
I need to cut the excess links off the drag chains now that I have tried digging with them shorter than I originally had. I think now they are closer to the proper length per scale. I can also dig about 3'' closer to the fairlead now.
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6907/dscn0670qz.jpg

Car5858
08-23-2011, 06:19 PM
:cool::cool: Like the operators perspective.

Thanks for posting them Steve.

doodlebug
09-03-2011, 09:34 PM
Hey Steve, have you seen this dragline bucket on the "bay"?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350489626877&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 Thought you might enjoy this!
Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

9W Monighan
09-05-2011, 02:13 PM
Hey Steve, have you seen this dragline bucket on the "bay"?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350489626877&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 Thought you might enjoy this!
Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

Thanks for the link. I look for those all the time but haven't been on ebay for a couple days. I was up to camp this past weekend but we got sort a rained out. I have one of those in my collection too.

9W Monighan
11-02-2011, 03:27 PM
Time to get back building again on this. Not much time till the Cabin Fever Expo. I've been designing the wedges and other bucket rigging that I threw together last year. Everything served me well but it just wasn't "to scale". should have something to show soon. I still need to make a trip 295miles out East to the 1:1 machine to get more sizes on the exterior house and "A" Frame.

9W Monighan
11-30-2011, 10:34 AM
Here is a start on the "Crows Foot" this is where the drag chains,dump rope socket,and drag rope socket meet. I made it out of 4140HT steel so it wont wear out dragging in the dirt.
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4258/dscn0898f.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2453/dscn0899hc.jpg

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/4904/dscn0900v.jpg
Stepping down with a 1/8'' ball mill to make the taper.
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/3636/dscn0901x.jpg

JAMMER
11-30-2011, 10:44 AM
Very nice work Steve the more you do on it the better it gets, keep up the good work. Ed;)

Brian in PA
12-01-2011, 12:34 AM
Man, what an intricate piece! I'm coming over to hang out:D:D

Brian

9W Monighan
12-05-2011, 01:48 PM
Finally figured out an attack on the drag rope socket this weekend. Had to make it in two pieces then I'll Tig weld the halves together. Sorry for the ugly finish, I have lots of blending with the Dremel and Lots of deburring to do still on this one. I still need one more this size for the hoist and two smaller ones for the dump rope.

Interior where the cable will thread through
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9620/dscn1022n.jpg

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/9239/dscn1026e.jpg

Roughing the different height areas
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7489/dscn1027gx.jpg

Slow going with a 3/32'' endmill
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5439/dscn1029i.jpg

Interior
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/339/dscn1030p.jpg

Exterior
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/879/dscn1031e.jpg

RattleKan
12-06-2011, 03:29 AM
Simply amazing!

9W Monighan
12-06-2011, 03:33 PM
Here is the drag socket TIG welded together. Of course there is some grinding and filing to do. I had one heck of a time seeing what I'm welding! I even have a 2X magnifier in my helmet and was wearing my 2X cheaters:eek:

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6636/dscn1032qg.jpg

http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/8373/dscn1033.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9966/dscn1034m.jpg

rockNmayhem
12-07-2011, 02:04 AM
Steve that looks absolutely astonishing. Great welds for being so small and very clean looking socket. Can't wait to see what it looks like cleaned up.

Tyler

9W Monighan
12-12-2011, 07:05 PM
More rope socket construction photos from last weekend. This time this is the hoist rope socket. I still need to radius the sides some.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4549/dscn1046k.jpg

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/937/dscn1047i.jpg

Two Halves exterior
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5242/dscn1048j.jpg

Two halve interior
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7271/dscn1049.jpg

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/9181/dscn1050t.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3572/dscn1052l.jpg

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9876/dscn1054i.jpg

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3107/dscn1055s.jpg

Southgate
12-13-2011, 04:13 AM
Way beyond cool...

9W Monighan
12-16-2011, 12:10 AM
This weeks project is to design and machine the hitch links that the drag chains attach to.

Here is a shot from my ESCO salesman sample bucket showing what the completed parts will look like.
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1861/1003105x.jpg

Left hand and right hand pieces started
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/156/dscn1056kc.jpg

Top view of the Left hand hitch
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/6356/dscn1057d.jpg

Espeefan
12-16-2011, 02:06 AM
That's incredible work! I wish I could TIG weld that good! And machine parts that well too!

9W Monighan
12-16-2011, 10:20 AM
That's incredible work! I wish I could TIG weld that good! And machine parts that well too!

I can't see what I'm doing!!:o I probably could have made smoother welds 10yrs ago when my eye sight was better:rolleyes: The welds will get ground down anyway.

Espeefan
12-16-2011, 03:28 PM
So, what you're saying is even though you can't see what you are welding, you still TIG weld better then me, and I'm younger! See, I rest my case!

Brian in PA
12-16-2011, 04:17 PM
So, what you're saying is even though you can't see what you are welding, you still TIG weld better then me, and I'm younger! See, I rest my case!

LOL!!

9W Monighan
12-17-2011, 12:43 PM
Here I am profiling the piece and final cutting loose from the steel bar.
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8646/dscn1059n.jpg
So, what you're saying is even though you can't see what you are welding, you still TIG weld better then me, and I'm younger! See, I rest my case!

Thanks Nathan. I get very frustrated when it come to working close.
This morning I welded the hitch brackets onto the bucket. Struggling as usual:o I got a magnifier light and put it between my helmet and the work. Worked pretty well.
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/3170/dscn1061k.jpg

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/5240/dscn1064a.jpg

The teeth are really starting to show some wear after about 60+hrs of digging. In the future I'm going to make a better cutting edge that will be hardened and some replaceable hardened teeth.

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/17/dscn1062k.jpg

modelman
12-17-2011, 07:28 PM
Steve-you have a lot done since I was on here. Parts look great as always. Will the sockets be painted or just a natural steel finish? I see you complaining about your eyes:D. You don't know about eye problems yet:eek:. I really hope no one has to go through what I am dealing with but life goes on and I will do what I can, when I can.:). Your 9W is really looking good and will certainly be a masterpiece when finished!

9W Monighan
12-18-2011, 12:16 AM
Steve-you have a lot done since I was on here. Parts look great as always. Will the sockets be painted or just a natural steel finish? I see you complaining about your eyes:D. You don't know about eye problems yet:eek:. I really hope no one has to go through what I am dealing with but life goes on and I will do what I can, when I can.:). Your 9W is really looking good and will certainly be a masterpiece when finished!

Thanks Tom, After reading your 777 post I see you are really having big problems. Please try to get well and continue working on your projects to keep your mind at ease .
As far as painting the sockets, I picked up a can of red Rustoleum this week and I'm going to paint the sockets and possibly (if I can get some of the wear plates made for the bucket) paint the bucket. I was thinking of painting the walking shoes black but haven't got the urge to paint anything on the machine yet.