Eagle Mach JD-98/RC4WD DXR2

[TheBennyB]

Just wondering if anyone has had any further thoughts on this machine?
Been out for a bit but not many posts on performance or reliability. Just pulled the trigger on one and wondering if any electonics/servo/hydraulic failures need a looking into? What's the fill level on the hydro tank? If anyone else has questions can try to answer when mine arrives.

[Efroeh]

Look forward to your thoughts on it once it arrives. I seen some videos of it and they look good push a fair bit of dirt.

[Kaan]

Bought mine couple of months ago, i think its their best machine so far, you can push lots of dirt, its heavy and seems like very good built to me. I have never had any problem so far.

[TheBennyB]

yea, all the vids I've seen are prepared dirt. Not happening here. Will let everyone know how it reacts to hard pack.

[Northern Farmer]

Congrats on your new dozer :cool: I'm sure it will be able to tackle the hard packed soil you have out back that's what the ripper is for :D

Lil ripping action
https://youtu.be/gV9v4vmBtns

[Claus]

I know what I'm going to say won't be liked but.... why not rototill the area you want to play in? I love the DXR2 although I don't have one. RC4WD wants $490 for the drive motor and gear for each side, I would hate to tears those up at that price. Also I wonder how hard or soft the ripper tooth is, I wouldn't be surprised if hard pack would wear it down pretty quickly. Just my 2 cents.

http://www.rc4wd.co.uk/product/VVV-S0170-1.jpg

[Efroeh]

I've been watching some videos of it working and have a question. Does the blade tilt as to dump it? I see there's a ram but can't tell if there's a hose going to it or not.

[Northern Farmer]

I know what I'm going to say won't be liked but.... why not rototill the area you want to play in? I love the DXR2 although I don't have one. RC4WD wants $490 for the drive motor and gear for each side, I would hate to tears those up at that price. Also I wonder how hard or soft the ripper tooth is, I wouldn't be surprised if hard pack would wear it down pretty quickly. Just my 2 cents.

Could always get a ripper for the 4200 if worried about track wear on the dozer.

http://www.rcbrmin.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=113&products_id=957

[Northern Farmer]

I've been watching some videos of it working and have a question. Does the blade tilt as to dump it? I see there's a ram but can't tell if there's a hose going to it or not.

If your asking if the bucket tilts forward or backwards it does not. Bucket can only tilt side to side.

[Efroeh]

If your asking if the bucket tilts forward or backwards it does not. Bucket can only tilt side to side.

OK thanks

[TheBennyB]

Could always get a ripper for the 4200 if worried about track wear on the dozer.

http://www.rcbrmin.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=113&products_id=957

Already have a ripper for the 4200 so yea, that could be in play. For the most part it'll be playing in piles of unscreened fill dirt so should be good. Once it arrives I'll get out and take some vid.

[Northern Farmer]

Sweet! Looking forward to it :cool:

[Cooper]

Yeah I want to see some pics and thoughts about it too!! I love dozers and the details on that one are darn good!! Take care when running it to not turn sharp , like a zero turn, and load up the tracks with debris, might get a rock in and possibly break a track link. Just like 1:1 dozers, a good operator will try and limit how much spoil get pushed into track links. 1:1 will pretty much crush anything but still hard on equipment. Always can tell if the owner is running stuff:).

[TheBennyB]

Yeah I want to see some pics and thoughts about it too!! I love dozers and the details on that one are darn good!! Take care when running it to not turn sharp , like a zero turn, and load up the tracks with debris, might get a rock in and possibly break a track link. Just like 1:1 dozers, a good operator will try and limit how much spoil get pushed into track links. 1:1 will pretty much crush anything but still hard on equipment. Always can tell if the owner is running stuff:).

Know exactly what you mean. Have to keep the same eye with 1/16 r/c armor.

[TheBennyB]

Also thinking a spring loaded idler may be the first mod if it's not sprung stock.

[Claus]

I have found these four videos very informational, the first ons is the unboxing, the second shows some of the details, the third shows more of the the internals and the forth goes over the functions. The undercarriage is much like a real machine, these videos are very convincing if your on the fence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z2ZXMYTh9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKginJmWN2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FebV4-82HM&t=5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Et3-oHxHQ

[TheBennyB]

I have found these four videos very informational, the first ons is the unboxing, the second shows some of the details, the third shows more of the the internals and the forth goes over the functions. The undercarriage is much like a real machine, these videos are very convincing if your on the fence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z2ZXMYTh9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKginJmWN2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FebV4-82HM&t=5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Et3-oHxHQ

yea, seen those. Wish he had some operating in material vids.

[Stuart]

yea, seen those. Wish he had some operating in material vids.

Here's one: Dozer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKf6MfE2RUQ)

[TheBennyB]

Thanks Stuart, think I've seen all the vids on youtube of it. Looks like a nice machine for the price point. Once mine arrives I'll get it down in the bashing area and see what it can do.

[steamer]

Tracks and treads Lou bought one a while ago and it's on this thread. Scroll down to post 350. He has video up for it too.

http://www.rctruckandconstruction.com/showthread.php?t=79&page=18

[TheBennyB]

Tracks and treads Lou bought one a while ago and it's on this thread. Scroll down to post 350. He has video up for it too.

http://www.rctruckandconstruction.com/showthread.php?t=79&page=18

Ah cool, thanks for the link.

[thebigo]

I have one, just haven't posted any videos yet. The tracks have spring tensioner' on them, but I had to take my tracks completely apart and locktite the pins. The small 2mm bolts all around the tracks and drives need to be loctited and tightened also.

Really like mine, is fun to push snow and dirt but takes some practice, I have a spectrum dx18 that I need to program to it. The Radio link transmitter seams to work fine but I don't like how it is set up, seems as though I am always accendetily activating the ripper. The dozer is very heavey as needed and will ripp hard dirt, but you need to make several passes.

I am in Arizona now, but I will try to get some pictures and video's when I get back.

David

[TheBennyB]

I have one, just haven't posted any videos yet. The tracks have spring tensioner' on them, but I had to take my tracks completely apart and locktite the pins. The small 2mm bolts all around the tracks and drives need to be loctited and tightened also.

Really like mine, is fun to push snow and dirt but takes some practice, I have a spectrum dx18 that I need to program to it. The Radio link transmitter seams to work fine but I don't like how it is set up, seems as though I am always accendetily activating the ripper. The dozer is very heavey as needed and will ripp hard dirt, but you need to make several passes.

I am in Arizona now, but I will try to get some pictures and video's when I get back.

David

Thanks for the heads up David. Will loctite those pins and screws when mine comes in.

[TheBennyB]

Lucked out and dozer got out before new years. According to fedex will be here wed. Much better shipping experience so far dealing with Tang at Eagle than rc4wd on this one. 4200 took a month and had to front $100 at customs through DHL that rc4wd did reimburse in the end.

[Northern Farmer]

Sweet :cool: DHL<Fedex

[TheBennyB]

Pleasantly surprised by fedex today with dozer delivery! Try to get the one over on all screws and hydro fittings over the next day or 2 then hope to start digging.

[Efroeh]

Look forward to hearing your impression on it. Did you do the money transfer to tang or PayPal? I'm asking as I'm thinking about buying the 870k threw him

[TheBennyB]

Look forward to hearing your impression on it. Did you do the money transfer to tang or PayPal? I'm asking as I'm thinking about buying the 870k threw him

I did money transfer through western union. Since the closest WU was at my grocery store it had to be done via a debit card with a pin. Couldn't use a credit card. This limited me to $2000 a day so had to send 2 transfers over 2 days.

[Efroeh]

I did money transfer through western union. Since the closest WU was at my grocery store it had to be done via a debit card with a pin. Couldn't use a credit card. This limited me to $2000 a day so had to send 2 transfers over 2 days.

OK good to know thanks

[TheBennyB]

Started getting into checking fixtures and screws. The fixture on the fill lead was loose. Also started filling the tank and had oil spill out everywhere from the "relief" hose. Only had about 100ML in so guess it had some residual in the tank from functions testing at the factory. Going to replace that with a vent I have left over from a 4200 tank replacement.
fill line is on the left, relief line on the right. May be a couple days before it gets in any dirt.
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[Claus]

Not trying to be a jerk so don't take it that way but the track pads are on backwards. Love the look of the dozer other than that.

[TheBennyB]

Hadn't noticed that yet. Will correct that when i get it back together.

[Efroeh]

Looks good can't wait to see it moving some dirt

[tracksntreadslou]

when leaning heavy to the right the vent line will leak fluid ..I machined a slot in the bottom of the fuel tank and tee to the filler line ..I have a small hole in the filler cap to vent pressure out

[TheBennyB]

Guess I'm just not going to have good luck with Eagle. 4200 showed up with busted track motor boxes and now so has the dozer. Put it on the shop floor for a test drive and heard a little crunching in the right planetary. Found a gear with some decent wear/breakage. I know this is cheap entry level chinese stuff but come on, at least let me get the tracks dirty!
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[TheBennyB]

I've gotten TX mixing done with great help from tracksntreadslou, so lower operation is done with left stick and blade operated with right stick. Now gonna have to wait a bit on gears from Tang till I get her dirty.

[Northern Farmer]

Wow that's some crummy luck you've had with eagle Benny. Sure hope Tang makes everything right for you.

[TheBennyB]

Email and pics sent to Tang, he's sending gears. Hopefully this sucker gets in the dirt soon.

[Efroeh]

Any new updates on this machine? I am thinking about buying a loader from tang and would like to know how there handling this repair?

[TheBennyB]

Parts are on their way with a tracking number. Tang is very good at working with you to get any problems solved. Just have your camera ready as they like pics to go along with busted or missing items to show them exactly whats up. RC4WD is the same way.

[Efroeh]

OK thanks Benny. I found rc4wd to be painfully slow with dealing with them. Sucks when you buy somthing new and it's broke right from the get go.

[thebigo]

Parts are on their way with a tracking number. Tang is very good at working with you to get any problems solved. Just have your camera ready as they like pics to go along with busted or missing items to show them exactly whats up. RC4WD is the same way.

Was running mine the other day, and all of sudden my blade wouldn't lift but it would lower ???? So after working back through the hydraulic cylinder's to the valves, I found that the servo to valve actuator thingy was not tight. Had to disconnect all the hoses to the valve block, pull the block out, and found that two of the set screws were not tight or locktighted. Ended up lock tightning all the set crews and re- assembling the machine, about a full day's job...

Oh well, I like working on them so no big deal, but pay attention to this problem.

David

[TheBennyB]

Thanks for the heads up.

[TheBennyB]

Got my parts in. Will try and take some vid this week. Here's a question for the dozer owners. If you have them, how are you running your lighting kit wires? Know I can take off the tank cover, sponson's, hood manifold cover, etc. and drill some holes. Was just wondering if anyone had any tips?

[thebigo]

Haven't got that far yet, I ordered mine from RC4WD, and didn't get the sound or lights. Bet you could easily mount your switching unit and external battery, if that's your option for light, under the tray right under the hood because there is ton's of room!!!

The room is plenty in this outfit, but I am now building a LR634 and let me tell ya its tight, especially when I have about every option you can think of.

The light's thing is a learning experience for me, so I probably will be getting with you and others for help.

David

[TheBennyB]

Yea, lots of room on the DXR2, no need for external power for lights(runs off 5V from RX), just need a Y splitter if you want to go eagle light system. All channels used on RX. I went off Ch 9 which also had the BEC. Not sure if that will effect voltage or not. Got the heads up it should be good to go from Tang at Eagle so I've got an argument if things go black.

[Efroeh]

Any videos of the dozer working yet?

[TheBennyB]

Not yet, we actually got some winter style weather so ground froze up. I messesd with it a bit a week or so ago but didn't take any vid, performed pretty well. When ground warms up will take some vid.

[TheBennyB]

Sorry no good vid yet, hopefully tomorrow unless it rains. Trying out Rick Grimes from "Walking Dead" to operate the D10.

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[TheBennyB]

Finally shot a vid today. Material was wet after a good rain the night before. Nothing real exciting and a bit long winded, so grab a beer and let me know if there's anything specific you'd like to see if this sucker will do it (within reason...)
You'll hear the one planetary still chattering like it's not meshing correctly, just can't figure what's up with it yet.
Gonna operate through another batt or 2 then take them apart to see if any unusual or uneven wear is visible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkXK6eBJG0A

[Efroeh]

Hey Benny how do you find the blade right mess and staying level? The blade seemed to be higher on the right or is it adjuastable?

[TheBennyB]

You have tilt control, just touchy. You can also adjust on the stay bar, though that adjustment affects tilt and angle of attack (pitch) on the blade. For the most part if you see anything working in the wrong it's probably user issue on the TX and not the machine. If your playing on a relatively level area it'll hold, other wise you have to adjust your blade accordingly. My play area is full or roots, rocks, sticks, snakes, frogs, etc. so it's hard to get a clear control to compare. Never really see anything completely level.

[Efroeh]

You have tilt control, just touchy. You can also adjust on the stay bar, though that adjustment affects tilt and angle of attack (pitch) on the blade. For the most part if you see anything working in the wrong it's probably user issue on the TX and not the machine.

I watched your video and it seemed you were doing a good job running that rig. How do you find the build quality and would you recommend it to someone else?

[TheBennyB]

I watched your video and it seemed you were doing a good job running that rig. How do you find the build quality and would you recommend it to someone else?

For sure. The only issue I've come across mechanically are the planetary's and they still work just not sure for how long. This also seems to be only with my machine, haven't found anyone with the same issue. There are some annoying design features, mainly the access to the fluid tank in which you have to remove the tracks, cab, and fight with the sprockets to get to some tiny hex screws under the fenders to remove the cover over the fluid tank. Still once you've done a couple times it's not too bad. Overall a decently detailed machine that'll move some real dirt and looks frick'n awesome doing it!

[Northern Farmer]

Great video Benny :cool:

[TheBennyB]

Front end disassembled for Paint. The hood and blade cylinders will be going black. Also some fuel for the operators...it was a good day!
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[Efroeh]

Oh man I don't know what looks better that dozer with some dirt on it or that meat. That's it I'm firing up the egg for supper tonight.

[TheBennyB]

Did you end up firing up the egg?

[Efroeh]

Did you end up firing up the egg?

Yes I did, did up some pork chops chicken kabobs and some broccoli for myself and the wife.

[TheBennyB]

Real nice! Food drunk enough to pull the trigger on the dozer?

[Efroeh]

Ha ya I wish, I just bought a used 870k loader from a member, Also were having our first child so most of the money is going towards that. But I'll admit I've been thinking it be a great addition to the fleet and been keeping a eye one the buy and sell.. It's like a drug lol. For now I'll just have to get my dozer fix threw you.

[Froggy0000]

Lots of looking W/O success. Hoping to find the initial fill amount of hydraulic oil on this beast so I can avoid some of the issues I've read about.