Soviet ZiS 150 cab and bed

[TheBennyB]

Saw this on ebay. little steep but pretty interesting. May pull the trigger on one for something down the road.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/142364866006

http://www.ebay.com/itm/142364864389

[bigdogrod]

i've got 2, going for a street rod look with one and an old international with the other. google research reveals the Zis actually is a 47 international.... amazing detail for an amazing price, opening doors, hood etc...

here's the first mockup on a trail finder chassis, going to use a pumpkin bed with another set of front fenders grafted on

http://photos.bigdogrod.com/i.ashx?gallery=4812601&mid=102155663&mt=Photo&standardsize=640x480

http://photos.bigdogrod.com/i.ashx?gallery=4812601&mid=102155662&mt=Photo&standardsize=640x480

the stock bed will make a great landscape trailer

[TheBennyB]

Nice! Much to the cab assembly? I'm going the not scale approach and may put it on a CC-01.

[bigdogrod]

no, went together pretty smooth, had a small issue where the instructions showed the hood assembly backwards, but emailed the seller and they said they would fix the misprint

[TheBennyB]

Tammy pumpkin bed?

[Mikem]

Would it fit on a king hauler chassis ?

[bigdogrod]

yeah, those are king hauler wheels on the front, rc4wd lo pros on the rear. it's 12'th scale so it might look a bit off next to a tamiya semi, that's the next project...


google search/ wikipedia: 1947 international semi truck

street rod

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-keL1w-Mm6x4/TumPtZdK_lI/AAAAAAAAAm0/b19_oxyqA2E/s1600/111310badbindermb1_slideshow_main_prod_affiliate_8 0.jpg


https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/tractors/images/1/15/International_1947_KB-7.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20100529052926

how about this?

http://www.tenfourmagazine.com/content/wp-content/gallery/pdi2013/pdishow01.jpg

[TheBennyB]

Mine came in today. Very nice packaging and well shipped. Mine may be ear marked on a CC-01 for a retro Dakar truck. Instead of this sissy energy drink all over it, it'll have pouch tobacco, hair tonic, etc sponsors from the era...he he. Grabbed the preassembled bed too. It's nice as well, though geared towards a 6x6 with it's size.
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[kaptain Jack]

Any progress?

[TheBennyB]

Not yet. Still deciding how I want to go with it and what colors.

[Snipah]

I also ordered the Cab and deck, great quality!!! Spoke with the seller and he said watch out for more models :-)

Look forward to more pics on this build...

[TheBennyB]

Right on. Yea, looks like they will be a cool company to keep an eye on. Right now I'm still thinking of doing a retro Dakar truck on a CC-01 chassis I have laying around. Cream/brown cab with a brown flat bed with old school logos for advertising. I decided to go the trailer route with the bed. Have an old 1/8 dirtbike trailer I'm going to put it on and make it a dumper. Gotta hack up the C channel to shorten it a bit then extend the neck for a king pin. Throw in a screw drive/esc and a pivot and call it a day.
http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/thebennyb10/IMG_2821_zpsnnntjl3a.jpg (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/thebennyb10/media/IMG_2821_zpsnnntjl3a.jpg.html)
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[TheBennyB]

CC-01 chassis isn't going to work, too small. Going to look at other options.

[sassgrunt]

Here's an interesting thread on a scratchbuilt ZIL-157, if you haven't already seen it.
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/multi-axle-rigs/497166-6x6-rc-truck-zil-157-inspiration.html

Thank you for starting this thread. I ordered the cab and bed, but am not sure if I want to build it as a cargo version, or just use the cab for a tractor version. Trumpeter has that 1/35 SA-2 Guideline kit that uses this cab, but I am certainly not willing to build the trailer and missile for THAT!

There is also the AT-T prime mover that uses a cab similar to this one. Looks like it has an extra front window and different grill, (and also I don't have a spare Hooben T-55 to mount it on). Sure is an intriguing thought, though. -Mike

[TheBennyB]

Here's an interesting thread on a scratchbuilt ZIL-157, if you haven't already seen it.
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/multi-axle-rigs/497166-6x6-rc-truck-zil-157-inspiration.html

Thank you for starting this thread. I ordered the cab and bed, but am not sure if I want to build it as a cargo version, or just use the cab for a tractor version. Trumpeter has that 1/35 SA-2 Guideline kit that uses this cab, but I am certainly not willing to build the trailer and missile for THAT!

There is also the AT-T prime mover that uses a cab similar to this one. Looks like it has an extra front window and different grill, (and also I don't have a spare Hooben T-55 to mount it on). Sure is an intriguing thought, though. -Mike

Hey Mike, it's me Bret (same thebennyb from RCU tank forum.) I'm still trying to figure out what chassis I'm going to put the cab on. Don't really want to buy a chassis just for a body but looks like that may be the only route. Looking at trail finder 2 long wheel base. Hoping I can find a used one somewhere.

[sassgrunt]

Hey Bret. Yeah, I think three's a few of us who haunt the same forums. I was thinking about using an Axial SCX-10 chassis, (only because I have one that I didn't use for anything else), but I won't know if it'll fit until the cab & bed get here. Wheelbase on this is 11 inches, and inside & outside measurement of tires is 6 and 9 inches. It may be that if the width on this is okay; I'll have to stretch the length a bit. I really wanted to lean towards more of a scale suspension rather than a 4-link type, but am thinking that I may just have to go with whatever fits best. -Mike

[Snipah]

I think the SCX10 will be too wide. I was leaning towards Tamiya truck rails?

[kaptain Jack]

I got mine and started to paint it. Sticking to original military green.

[TheBennyB]

Jack, did you assemble then paint or paint as you went during assembly? I can't decide how I want to approach this sucker. Detailed interior or not. Hate to assemble then have to mask small area's to paint, door panels/hood and such.

[TheBennyB]

Yup, SCX10 will be too wide. Also if you have the battery/ESC up front it wont fit over it.
Really, unless you have a flat footprint with no obstructions this cab is a toughy without cutting it up.

[kaptain Jack]

Paint separately, more control over the process and if making mistake, you can fix small part on its own, rather then the whole thing. I went with interior as well.

[bigdogrod]

pictures or it didn't happen....

:cop:

[kaptain Jack]

Took some pictures, will try to upload
https://flic.kr/p/WkhJvo

[kaptain Jack]

https://www.flickr.com/gp/157057914@N04/cmj90Q

[kaptain Jack]

https://flic.kr/p/WVGz6V
https://flic.kr/p/WVGCuP

[bigdogrod]

wow, good job, that thing looks real

[kaptain Jack]

Benny, I hope I didn't hijacked your post....The ZIS 150 has a special significants to me, even though I’v lived in Canada most of my life, I was born in former USSR soon after world war 2. My father drove this truck. I still remember its dark military green colour, smell of engine oil and gasoline on a hot summer day. Sometimes my father would take me with him to work and I would spend a whole day bouncing up and down because of bad roads and poor suspension. In the winter it would be bitterly cold, because the truck had no heating and no insulation. Still its a part of my childhood memory. Hope I’d be able to build a model that reflects this part of my life.

[TheBennyB]

No worries Jack.

[Snipah]

What glue would you recommend using with this kit?

[Mikem]

Do you guys have a pic of a king hauler beside this zil truck ?

[TheBennyB]

What glue would you recommend using with this kit?

I'm using PIKO fix glue. Just happen to have a bunch around from building some of thier buildings. You need a glue for ABS plastic.

[TheBennyB]

Do you guys have a pic of a king hauler beside this zil truck ?

Help at all?
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[Mikem]

Yes that helps a lot thanks

[Snipah]

That's no help at all, just shows your bench is waaaaaay cleaner than mine :-(

:-)

[kaptain Jack]

Anyone has actually started working on mechanical aspect of this truck?

[Mikem]

My imagination but it seems a little big compared to the KH , or am I going nuts

[bigdogrod]

yeah, the zis is 12th scale

[Mikem]

So roughly 10 % larger ?

[TheBennyB]

That's no help at all, just shows your bench is waaaaaay cleaner than mine :-(

:-)

He he, yea not very efficient. The chef headworking always tells me to keep it clean.

[sassgrunt]

I'm with you folks, but seem to be running a day late and a dollar short. I bought both the cab and bed from King Kong RC (from eBay). They said that they couldn't ship both together (to save on costs, I hoped) because they were already boxed separately. Okay, no problem. The bed arrived promptly on the 22nd, but not the cab. Two days later and still nothing. The tracking info on eBay said that BOTH had been delivered on the 22nd, so the mailman told me to go check the USPS website. That said that both had arrived at their Honolulu sort facility; that one had been delivered on the 22nd and the other was out for delivery. It never showed up, and there was no change in status for the next five days. Then on the 28th, it said that it had been delivered - to GUAM, of all places! Today it says that it's out for delivery, (but I have no idea to where....back here?...somewhere on Guam)?
Anyway, I am hoping to eventually get it. Until them, I am considering possibilities. I'd really like to build something WW2-ish; either Soviet or maybe a 1940's International K-series tractor. I also ordered a set of King Kong's tires that are meant to fit the Tamiya rims. These look like the uni-directional military tires, but I really don't know what to do to modify the Tamiya rims to NOT look like modern ones. And, I haven't seen any aftermarket replacement wheels that look like they're from the 40's or 50's.

[TheBennyB]

Mine we're ordered at the same time and delivered and different schedules as well. Hold on for anther week or 2 till busting balls. Mike, did your bed come built or as a kit? They label the bed as prebuilt only and that's how mine came. Wonder why?

[sassgrunt]

Yeah Bret; mine came pre-built as well. You know, I was looking at it today and had either a great idea or a brain fart. The bed measures about 12" long by 8" wide, and I was thinking that by splicing two of them together, it might make a nice 24" stake bed trailer for a fifth wheel tractor to tow. My first thought was that a Tamiya flatbed trailer would provide the best frame, but am now thinking that if it's a 1950's era rig, it probably ought to have only a single axle. I'll look at it more carefully tomorrow, and see if I can scrounge together enough parts to see if it'll be worthwhile, (BEFORE I order another bed and get committed to it)!

[Panther F]

I also ordered a set of King Kong's tires that are meant to fit the Tamiya rims. These look like the uni-directional military tires, but I really don't know what to do to modify the Tamiya rims to NOT look like modern ones. And, I haven't seen any aftermarket replacement wheels that look like they're from the 40's or 50's.

Mike... I checked out some printed rims on Shapeways that looked like they were from a few generations back listed under 1/14 Tamiya. Didn't save the link or the seller but just a thought to pass on to you.

[Panther F]

OH! I did save it : https://www.shapeways.com/product/DW8VHZB4H/trilex-rim-for-1-14-tamiya-trucks-rear-axle?optionId=40164830

https://images1.sw-cdn.net/product/picture/710x528_5867833_2754702_1459332587.jpg

Those look like what you want? I wouldn't know one rim from another.

[sassgrunt]

Wow! Those are really nice Jeff - thank you for the link. I've bought some tank parts from them, but never thought to look for anything truck-related. I had been thinking about using metal Dayton wheels, but these plastic ones from Shapeways are a little cheaper. And, I'm sure that they're strong enough for an on-road truck. Thank you again.

[Snipah]

I ordered both together and they arrived together... Was really quick from Hong Kong to New Zealand.. Postage was included for each so no savings combining.

3D artists out there you need to make more Wheel options... ~nods~
Or we need a sticky post with links like Panther F posted :-)

[sassgrunt]

I'm getting more frustrated by the day with the Post Office. I ordered both of them at the same time, and the bed got here from Germany in about a week. Tracking info shows that the cab got to Honolulu at the same time, but was then re-routed to Guam a week later. Was re-routed back to Honolulu four days later, and then got sent to San Francisco the same day. Customer service tells me that since San Francisco is an international processing facility, it's probably on it's way back to Germany. They do not have any info on whether the address is illegible, or what else might be the problem. I'll have to message King Kong RC and tell them to be on the lookout for it, I guess.

Also, I did order 10 sets of their uni-directional tires for the Tamiya rims, which got here from Hong Kong in four days. VERY nice tires; they fit the rims well; and they have the look I want. I wish manufacturing companies didn't feel the need to imprint their logo on both sides of the tire; as I'd like the option of having one side appear plain, (same thing with RC4WD tires).

[sassgrunt]

Well, my cab FINALLY came in, (nearly a month after the bed got here)! It has truly been a world traveler: Germany; New York; Hawaii; Guam; back to Hawaii; San Francisco; back to Hawaii, and finally to me.

I like the fact that it's a hard body, although the parts are really thick. On the one hand, that makes it kind of "clunky" while on the other hand; it will be really difficult to damage in use. I am still leaning towards a tractor-trailer version.

Thank you again for starting this thread, Bret. It is a nice diversion from the more-common Tamiya & Wedico starting points. And Jack - you are doing a great job on your bed and painting!

[Mikem]

Still on the fence about this yes or no

[sassgrunt]

Well, I decided to build mine as a tractor-trailer, (which the rear of the instruction booklet tells me is a Zis-120N), and have started on it.

The parts do fit together well. The only problems I have encountered is that the doors don't align in their recesses very well when closed. To "adjust" them, I heated the very thick pivot arms with a candle, and then held the door closed until it cooled down - perfect fit now. The other problem I found was my own fault - the hinge rod for the hood sides didn't go very far into the cab and radiator. So, I drilled them out a little deeper, and replaced the hinge rod with longer 2mm rod. Now it inserts far enough that I won't worry about it ever vibrating out.

If you haven't seen Captain Jack's build in the 4x4 section, it is a work of art, and I hope I can paint mine even HALF as well!

[kaptain Jack]

Sassgrunt, thank you for the complement.
I'm sure you will do amazing job and I can't wait to see pictures of your progress.
Jack

[razvan nicola]

Question: what chassis would be most fittable for use with this cab in order to obtain a scalish finished product? Would the WlToys 12428 chassis with the proper adaptations be the solution for that job? Would this chassis support the dually rear wheels mod?
Thanks in advance,
Razvan Nicola

[Mikhai]

Test drive a truck "ZIS-150" ("ЗИС-150").

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=h5DkWQV4ZfA

[kaptain Jack]

Cool, looks just like mine....