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Northern Farmer
07-24-2017, 03:29 PM
Chinese are definitely upping the details of their models. Quality and reliability remain to be seen.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-14-RC-hydraulic-excavator-model-946/32822719045.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb 201602_4_10152_10065_10151_10068_10130_10084_10083 _10080_10139_10082_10081_10110_10178_10137_10111_1 0060_10112_10113_10155_10114_10154_438_10056_10055 _10054_10310_10182_10059_100031_10099_10078_10079_ 10103_10073_10102_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10 051,searchweb201603_5,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=5b21f62d-5a72-4c0b-980c-ae43a7ea2f55&algo_expid=6c50d104-70a6-45a5-badf-f35dc9eda29f-8&algo_pvid=6c50d104-70a6-45a5-badf-f35dc9eda29f
https://s21.postimg.org/hbexy4luv/3_C7268_E1-_B7_B3-4_C4_D-997_E-41_B7_D91_FE3_BA-643-000000_A.jpg

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-12-RC-hydraulic-excavator-model/32805259648.html?traffic_analysisId=recommend_2037 _null_null_null&scm=1007.13482.37805.0&pvid=2989b9b0-9c2d-420c-9e00-87a5d6a05402&tpp=1
https://s11.postimg.org/5f2rjol8j/F3_A613_C0-1085-4243-_B1_F2-_FAA8_A25_E887_C-643-000000_A.jpg

Northern Farmer
07-24-2017, 03:55 PM
Correction it's a 946

liftmys10
07-24-2017, 05:55 PM
Wow!!! The 946 looks almost identical to premacon' s new 946, especially with that blue grabber. But the seller has 0 feedback. Scary.

Northern Farmer
07-24-2017, 10:56 PM
Yeah no feedback is odd.

Rimrock
07-25-2017, 03:05 PM
There are more and more Chinese suppliers showing up every year, more competition is great, machines getting better and more details. These two machines must be the most detailed from the East so far. Say in 5 years, the chinese will give the Germans serious competition, things are going quick in China, there are more and more Chinese getting in the hobby as the middle class grows fast over there, and they will demand better and better models. Cabs and motor hoods looks great. The rotating grab, amazing in this price class. Don't like the screws showing on the arm and undercarrige, gives a cheap impression. Naturally one can use putty, and repaint, but thats a huge job. Tells us that aluminium plates (?) likly are used, similar solution as on the far less detailed 'KAT' machines that did came to the marked some 3 years ago, which where was kind of not heavy enough.
I'm familar with the Libherr 954, also at aliexpress at less than 2000 usd. Don't have the grab naturally, and less detailed cab, less organized under the hood, more square motor hood than the original. Big advantage with that machine is that it is all steel, not a single screw, all welded (hidden welds). More realistic looking undercarriage. the correct weight to the scale, 18 kg. The chinese are good at fabricating fine parts for these RC models now, but when it comes assembly and finetunig, they are not quite there yet IMO. (much to do with maximaze profit, put it all together quickly, and that job might in many cases not being done by 'enthusiasts', as in Germany) E.g using threaded rods in the main link of boom and dipper, that will quickly eat into the material and give even more play, and so on. This is for the 954, which become a good working machine after putting in a couple of working days of minor modifications and finetuning. About this new 946 and Volvo, I don't know, hydraulics and electronics are the same as several other are using probably, but my guess is that some less or more work and 'finetuning' is needed to get them going well over a period of time. But, hey, that's a part of the hobby, and one get more knowledge about the machines, learning to be your own mechanic;)

liftmys10
07-26-2017, 08:24 PM
And here's a video of liebherr 946 with grabber.
I'm sure with a smoother operator, this will look even better.
https://youtu.be/W1zZMwAWolE

honda3
07-26-2017, 09:39 PM
Looking good so far, I got zero complaints with my 360L so the chinese are respectable in my book.

Northern Farmer
07-26-2017, 09:50 PM
Nice find

rc_farmer
07-27-2017, 09:48 PM
I have been watching this machine....

TheBennyB
07-28-2017, 01:13 AM
Yea, they are not far off with regards to detail. My 4200 is still digging untouched dirt. The 360 bumped up their game and am excited to see the mining truck. This is just the Eagle machines stuff though.

rc_farmer
07-28-2017, 01:53 PM
It come with two buckets small and large, the grabber is $200.00 bucks. I would like to see it digging.

Snochaser
07-28-2017, 04:09 PM
I'm with you Robert. Would like to see it digging. Great detail just hope it's rugged.

Rimrock
07-30-2017, 03:41 AM
It come with two buckets small and large, the grabber is $200.00 bucks. I would like to see it digging.

If it's that blue grabber you refer to, is there a link where it's sold seperately?

liftmys10
07-31-2017, 12:37 PM
And here's a video of liebherr 946 with grabber.
I'm sure with a smoother operator, this will look even better.
https://youtu.be/W1zZMwAWolE

Video was removed from YouTube. Sounds fishy.
Also there is a Russian site called GSK earthmovers on facebook that builds RC construction pieces like hydraulic cylinders etc. They are also selling the liebherr 946 and volvo 210.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011907454158

rc_farmer
07-31-2017, 01:08 PM
Appears to be the same model as the Chinese. I have been talking to xuefeng min and asking questions....run-time, what comes standard with it......and a video. The replies have been quick. Sent email last night and had reply this morning.

xuefeng min: hi dear Robert :
sorry we don't have the sound modules,u can add one to it,but we don't have, the battery is 16000.ma,i will send you email soon
thank you
xuefeng

Northern Farmer
07-31-2017, 11:16 PM
Video was removed from YouTube. Sounds fishy.
Also there is a Russian site called GSK earthmovers on facebook that builds RC construction pieces like hydraulic cylinders etc. They are also selling the liebherr 946 and volvo 210.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011907454158

Looks like GSK Earthmovers is the manufacturer of these models. Perhaps seller on aliexpress is a distributor for them :confused:

Rimrock
08-01-2017, 02:52 AM
Made in China, as so much other things) GSK is just a dealer for these machines.

rc_farmer
08-02-2017, 11:58 AM
So here the replies i have gotten:

Here is a general video

https://mail.qq.com/cgi-bin/ftnExs_download?k=74356265d61fd8c601a0a0694334041c 53530451040754001a0401065219025104074f075201061e05 530156045253030e0354546538360a0303140c0151591d5a45 5665584061&t=exs_ftn_download&code=75bee463&from=mobile&expiretime=1502978891&fsize=161.11M&suffix=mp4&from=mobile&expiretime=1502978891&fsize=161.11M&suffix=mp4

to simon
Hi Simon,

Impressive, but i noticed the bucket was detached by hand.....is it hydraulically detachable by r/c?

Thanks
simon

10:58 PM (11 hours ago)

to me
hi Robert:

sorry,we did not make the hydraulically detachable coupler,it will cost one valve,and will more expensive

best regards

xuefeng

rc_farmer
08-18-2017, 10:58 AM
More pics of the 946 have been post on the Alibaba website. This thing is looking better and better.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-14-RC-hydraulic-excavator-model-946/32822719045.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb 201602_4_10152_10065_10151_10068_10130_10084_10083 _10080_10139_10082_10081_10110_10178_10137_10111_1 0060_10112_10113_10155_10114_10154_438_10056_10055 _10054_10310_10182_10059_100031_10099_10078_10079_ 10103_10073_10102_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10 051,searchweb201603_5,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=5b21f62d-5a72-4c0b-980c-ae43a7ea2f55&algo_expid=6c50d104-70a6-45a5-badf-f35dc9eda29f-8&algo_pvid=6c50d104-70a6-45a5-badf-f35dc9eda29f

Northern Farmer
08-18-2017, 05:53 PM
Looks good :cool: Still don't see any feedback on the seller though.

glowa1986
08-21-2017, 08:39 AM
Hi. I ordered this model liebherr 946 to Poland and waiting for the parcel:D

glowa1986
08-21-2017, 08:44 AM
https://images82.fotosik.pl/760/efaf55b4a47d81fbmed.png (https://www.fotosik.pl/zdjecie/efaf55b4a47d81fb)

Rimrock
08-21-2017, 08:47 AM
Hi. I ordered this model liebherr 946 to Poland and waiting for the parcel:D

Great. you must come back with a test report for us)

rc_farmer
09-23-2017, 08:32 PM
Hi. I ordered this model liebherr 946 to Poland and waiting for the parcel:D


Any update on the 946?

glowa1986
09-26-2017, 10:49 AM
Hi
The excavator has come complete and without damages, She looks very nice, lots of details and very good quality.(my previous excavator it liebherr 954 rcbrmin.com)Not digging yet, I'm working now.
I will test later and show how it works
regards

https://images81.fotosik.pl/824/f62d5e27059660b8med.jpg
https://images84.fotosik.pl/824/3fced0c41593b179med.jpg
https://images82.fotosik.pl/825/330fc13be41314f4med.jpg
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https://images81.fotosik.pl/824/7ae12105739df8b1med.jpg

rc_farmer
09-27-2017, 12:05 PM
Looks really nice. Let us know how she works with a video. Does your have sound?

glowa1986
09-30-2017, 10:17 AM
first digging,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXZFCNqgwcQ&t=454s

Efroeh
09-30-2017, 11:46 AM
Looks good seems to dig well.

unix
09-30-2017, 01:37 PM
Congratulations Dr. Glowa ;)

rc_farmer
10-01-2017, 11:04 AM
first digging,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXZFCNqgwcQ&t=454s

G, thanks for the video. The controls seems to be a little stiff and jerky, are you finding that you have to do some fine tuning? It also seems that the pump is kinda loud too, is that true.

Seems to dig well, how does the tracks move in the dirt?

Inquiry Minds wanna know...

Thanks

glowa1986
10-01-2017, 01:36 PM
i think the control valve is very good,i had premacon, magom hrc and leimbach so need to practice to dig well. Pump is loud but outside doesn't mind, The tracks drive has a very good and powerfull show in the next movie, everything weighs 23kg.

rc_farmer
10-01-2017, 07:23 PM
Hey G,
Would mind saying what your cost was with the two buckets and gripper? According to Xenj in China, there is a one month backlog now on delivery.

Thanks for the updates

Rimrock
10-02-2017, 03:20 AM
Hey G,
Would mind saying what your cost was with the two buckets and gripper? According to Xenj in China, there is a one month backlog now on delivery.

Thanks for the updates

Guess they are still $3500 at aliexpress. Personally I don't have enough free time to fiddle around with Chineese hydraulics anymore, just swap it asap with german stuff.

liftmys10
10-02-2017, 11:16 AM
Looks good. Maybe a bit more practice for smoother movements. The pump sounds like a gas powered Briggs and Stratton engine. Is the pump similar in shape to rc4wd? Pictures of inside? Thanks for sharing.

glowa1986
10-02-2017, 11:53 AM
https://images83.fotosik.pl/834/0328bb9e4528b2ffmed.jpg

rc_farmer
10-02-2017, 12:34 PM
Guess they are still $3500 at aliexpress. Personally I don't have enough free time to fiddle around with Chineese hydraulics anymore, just swap it asap with german stuff.


I was quoted 3200 for two buckets, and 3500 for large bucket and gripper, so was curious if he got all three for a different price.

glowa1986
10-02-2017, 01:54 PM
I negotiated everything for 3300$

Lil Giants
10-02-2017, 02:32 PM
The pump sounds like a gas powered Briggs and Stratton engine.

HAHAHA I thought the same thing :lol:

Belt drive reduction on the pump, step in the right direction

Valdosetti
11-03-2017, 06:22 PM
Wow guys. Very nice deal for 3300,00. I got one from Premacon about 2 years ago and came with nothing extra, no even extra hydraulic line and it did cost me over 6000,00.
Hope they soon realease a Dozer too. I love the machine of mine but Premacon prices are out of reach lately. Congrats on the machine and keep videos coming Mr. Glowa.

Northern Farmer
11-03-2017, 09:48 PM
Wow guys. Very nice deal for 3300,00. I got one from Premacon about 2 years ago and came with nothing extra, no even extra hydraulic line and it did cost me over 6000,00.
Hope they soon realease a Dozer too. I love the machine of mine but Premacon prices are out of reach lately. Congrats on the machine and keep videos coming Mr. Glowa.

I believe RC4WD is currently offering the best deal for a rc hydraulic dozer at 2700$ US. A great model that leaves room for upgrades.

http://store.rc4wd.com/114-Scale-DXR2-Hydraulic-Earth-Dozer_p_4768.html

Valdosetti
11-05-2017, 09:57 AM
That’s what I call good deal. I spoke with Premacon and they quoted me a basic dozer with everything needed but remote, receiver and batteries as kit and the price came back over 12.000,00 euros. Way to expensive for my budget and for a model.
I think that this rc4wd dozer will be a very nice dozer and with a some upgrades it’ll be a monster machine for a decent price.
I love Europian machines, they are amazing good, but the price doesn’t justify. Way, way out of the place it should be.
Hope some day they come to realize they are loosing lot of space because of “ what I think; abusive” price.
I got other Chinese toys and they’re doing great. Really heavy and well built.
Thanks for the link Norther Farmer and I’m sorry guys for putting my point about other company’s on this posts, but I really thing it is time for this company’s to realize that they need to put a reasonable price or they will lose all the market to Chinese. It’ll be very sad.

JAMMER
11-05-2017, 10:21 AM
One thing that helps the Europeans is they can finance there toys through the banks that helps keep the price up also. Ed

bigpipespete
11-05-2017, 08:09 PM
I own two Premacon built machines and the way to look at it is , you can buy a Timex or you can buy a Rolex . To be honest though , they are way too nice to get dirty and therefor not a wise choice for this hobby.

lenny
11-06-2017, 12:58 PM
so just as im ready to pull the trigger on the eagle 360L this 946 shows up for 400 us dollars more but including the auxiliary hydro ports and the hydro operated clamp. Now I'm back to square one, which excavator to choose... eagle has done right by me in the past and I love my 870k loader so I'm really scratching my head here. Any info to help steer me in the right direction would be very appreciated, pros , cons that sort of thing. Thanks again Lenny

Northern Farmer
11-06-2017, 01:58 PM
so just as im ready to pull the trigger on the eagle 360L this 946 shows up for 400 us dollars more but including the auxiliary hydro ports and the hydro operated clamp. Now I'm back to square one, which excavator to choose... eagle has done right by me in the past and I love my 870k loader so I'm really scratching my head here. Any info to help steer me in the right direction would be very appreciated, pros , cons that sort of thing. Thanks again Lenny

Oyvind also offers a good deal on the Liebherr 954 with Premacon hydraulics check it out :cool:

http://rctruckandconstruction.com/showthread.php?t=12841

lenny
11-06-2017, 03:09 PM
Thanks for the fast response and the info, I will Message him and see. thanks again, Lenny

Valdosetti
11-07-2017, 05:20 PM
Hi Lenny, I would scratch my head too. Lol. Eagle seems to be doing better and better but this Liebherr set up os very promissing and looks amazing too. I would vote for the Liebherr 954.

lenny
11-08-2017, 04:52 PM
yea.. I was leaning towards the 946 for the auxiliary hydro ports and clamp. still unsure of the build quality , but the videos I have seen it looks to be quite a digger. anyone have the contact info for the seller on aliexpress? Didn't see a way to Message them. thanks again for your help and advice.

Northern Farmer
11-09-2017, 11:19 PM
yea.. I was leaning towards the 946 for the auxiliary hydro ports and clamp. still unsure of the build quality , but the videos I have seen it looks to be quite a digger. anyone have the contact info for the seller on aliexpress? Didn't see a way to Message them. thanks again for your help and advice.

Hey Lenny, just sign into your aliexpress account and select the Contact Now button.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ready-to-Go-1-14-RC-hydraulic-excavator-LIEBHERR-946/32830409554.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.10.AMMzwh&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10152_10 065_10151_10130_10068_10344_10345_10547_10342_1034 3_10340_10341_10548_10541_10139_10307_5670020_1006 0_10155_10154_10056_10055_10539_10537_10536_10059_ 10534_10533_100031_5740020_10103_10102_10142_10107 _10562_10084_10563_10083_10561_10566_10564_10565_5 650020_10178_10312_10313_10314_5660020_10550_10073 _10551_10552_10553_10554_10557,searchweb201603_30, ppcSwitch_5&btsid=7dc9b915-ea17-4201-8cc4-5741e5a7b467&algo_expid=fe3703b8-8472-4394-958d-15ce78a31f07-1&algo_pvid=fe3703b8-8472-4394-958d-15ce78a31f07
https://s1.postimg.org/6r755zpxyn/B803_DB0_D-97_AC-4816-_A63_B-_CB4566188466.jpg

Seems like there’s two sellers on aliexpress offering the 946
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-14-RC-hydraulic-excavator-model-946/32822719045.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.24.AMMzwh&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10152_10 065_10151_10130_10068_10344_10345_10547_10342_1034 3_10340_10341_10548_10541_10139_10307_5670020_1006 0_10155_10154_10056_10055_10539_10537_10536_10059_ 10534_10533_100031_5740020_10103_10102_10142_10107 _10562_10084_10563_10083_10561_10566_10564_10565_5 650020_10178_10312_10313_10314_5660020_10550_10073 _10551_10552_10553_10554_10557,searchweb201603_30, ppcSwitch_5&btsid=7dc9b915-ea17-4201-8cc4-5741e5a7b467&algo_expid=fe3703b8-8472-4394-958d-15ce78a31f07-3&algo_pvid=fe3703b8-8472-4394-958d-15ce78a31f07

lenny
11-10-2017, 06:47 AM
thanks you for that info N.Farmer.. guess I'll be starting an aliexpress account. will keep you guys in the loop about the info I receive from them...

Panther F
11-10-2017, 08:12 AM
Has anyone had any good trading reports from Aliexpress?

They have tons of nice, hard to find items at very attractive prices but all the reviews tell a different story.

Northern Farmer
11-10-2017, 09:31 AM
Has anyone had any good trading reports from Aliexpress?

They have tons of nice, hard to find items at very attractive prices but all the reviews tell a different story.

Millions of people order from aliexpress/alibaba worldwide don’t worry about it. I ordered my 4200xl excavator two years ago directly from Eagle Machinery and paid by paypal. Had zero issues with the transaction and communication with the manufacturer was great.

Here’s their buyer protection policy
https://sale.aliexpress.com/buyerprotection-en.htm?spm=2114.11010108.1000001.1.11e55904NFYzbe

Rimrock
11-10-2017, 11:55 AM
I've ordered 3 off Liebherr 956 from e-model store at alibaba in 2017, on behalf of some customers of mine. Used a Visa card, no problems with payment and shipping, arrived 3 weeks after payment. There is a guy, Paul, good english, no communication problem. When it comes to quality of the products, well, it's like you get what you pay for. The 956 is a more simple model than the 946, which is more detailed and more advanced hydraulics. Possible at same level as RC4wd volvo 360, at least concerning details)
At about 2000 USd incl shipping for the 956 (there is a CAT and Komatsu 270 with same technical spec, hydraulics) I knew that the hydraulics possible would not last for long. I was thinking to scrap the hydraulics at once, but we decided to just leave it and run as long as it would last. Cylinders ok. Pump & valve block is the problem here. One machine lasted about 1 month before breakdown, maybe 5-6-7 hours runtime I guess, another one lasted from April to September, don't know how many hours, maybe like 15-20. 3'rd one I have not gotten any response, possible not used as much as the other ones, but it's just a matter of time I get a call I guess;) All buyers where made aware of that at 2K USD, this was about the cheapest you could get, and one should not have too high hopes. I didn't wanted to replace a pump lasting just 10 hours, with another one lasting 10 hours anyway, even if it was for free. Well, I actually in the start had some hopes for the hydraulics to last a year or 2, but no;) That's the pump/tank unit sold seperately on e-model. Valve block not offered there seperately, but I might find a picture if anyone interested. Well, those 2 machines that broke down now got Premacon hydraulisc, at 1000 USD, so total cost about 3000. Otherwise the structure and rest of the machine was fine, it's the hydraulics that still have a way to go... The 946 seems a better machine than the 956 I have described. but buying a Chineese excavator in the 2-3-4K segment, you probably sooner og later have to test your skills as a mechanic) To think otherwise will be naive. but, they are developing, possible getting better and better.

Northern Farmer
11-10-2017, 12:04 PM
Agreed. If I was looking for another excavator I would have Oyvind build me a 954 with Premacon hydraulics :cool:

liftmys10
11-11-2017, 12:27 PM
Rimrock, you meant 954 not 956 right?
Good and honest feedback!

Rimrock
11-11-2017, 04:08 PM
Rimrock, you meant 954 not 956 right?
Good and honest feedback!

Sorry, yeah, it's the 954. thanks,

lenny
11-14-2017, 06:52 PM
sure would love to see a detailed video of this bad boy doing its thing... (hint,hint)

Northern Farmer
11-14-2017, 10:29 PM
sure would love to see a detailed video of this bad boy doing its thing... (hint,hint)

Checkout Oyvind’s youtube channel
https://youtu.be/Sk9rzN84_6Y

glowa1986
11-19-2017, 07:03 AM
white excavator has Leimbach hydraulic pump and valve, L954 it has all rcbrmin hydraulic

https://youtu.be/RXvW_R0Uohc

lenny
11-19-2017, 09:05 AM
Thanks for the video Glowa, Your excavator seems to dig very well. How do you like the clamp? And would you recommend this excavator? Thanks again, Lenny

glowa1986
11-19-2017, 12:38 PM
You will not buy anything better than this excavator for that money, good value for money.
i had a hydraulic valve and pump with premacon in the previous excavator - no revelation for big money. maybe you want to buy my LB946?
I'm thinking about buying a wheel loader

lenny
11-19-2017, 12:51 PM
Glowa ,Message me I'd like to know more if your selling. interested here..

lenny
11-20-2017, 02:28 PM
Not to sure what's going on with aliexpress?? I made an account with them to pay and after uploading all the info it tells me for security it wants additional information. Anyone else having any problems? just not comfortable with giving out personal info. Looks like I'll be ordering directly from Tang at eagle machinery.

Rimrock
11-20-2017, 02:43 PM
Not to sure what's going on with aliexpress?? I made an account with them to pay and after uploading all the info it tells me for security it wants additional information. Anyone else having any problems? just not comfortable with giving out personal info. Looks like I'll be ordering directly from Tang at eagle machinery.

Can't remember some special trouble with creating an account, which I did last spring. Maybe more info is need now, I do not know.
What machine are you going for?) Guess the Eagle products are the ones offered by RC4WD. Is it less cost ordering directly from Eagle?

Northern Farmer
11-20-2017, 03:45 PM
Not to sure what's going on with aliexpress?? I made an account with them to pay and after uploading all the info it tells me for security it wants additional information. Anyone else having any problems? just not comfortable with giving out personal info. Looks like I'll be ordering directly from Tang at eagle machinery.

If you plan on buying the 360L I would order it through RC4WD this week during the Black Friday Sale.

http://store.rc4wd.com/Black-Friday-Weekend-Blowout_b_164.html

lenny
11-20-2017, 07:20 PM
Rimrock, I was looking into the 946 with the clamp, which I thought was a very nice add-on plus the auxiliary hydro ports. But this system thru aliexpress just don't sit right with me. MR.Tang is who I place my orders with eagle machinery thru never a problem and quick to respond which is getting more rare in the cyber world of business. I was just quoted 3050.00 usd to my door. The only thing now is finding someone to add the auxiliary valves and plumbing to the 360 if thats even possible. keep you all posted..

Northern Farmer
11-22-2017, 12:28 PM
:eek:
http://store.rc4wd.com/Black-Friday-Weekend-Blowout_b_164.html
https://s7.postimg.org/tlx1j1jgb/49_C7618_A-5_EB9-4_CE4-_A234-15_ABF2272086.png

Efroeh
11-22-2017, 01:10 PM
To be a registered costumer that means you can log in right? I might have to pick up a dozer.

Northern Farmer
11-22-2017, 01:23 PM
To be a registered costumer that means you can log in right? I might have to pick up a dozer.

Correct
https://store.rc4wd.com/register.asp?cg=8

lenny
11-22-2017, 03:20 PM
that's a **** of a deal on the dozer for sure, mite have to looking into the widening Trailer too ... oh santa!!!

skeeter
11-22-2017, 04:23 PM
The 4200XL is 1/12th scale, the 360L is 1/14th scale. Will they BOTH work with our Tamiya toys? Is one a better fit then the other? I know I WILL be snatching up one of them during the sale, but IDK which one......YET. Any recommendations?

lenny
11-22-2017, 08:29 PM
For me, I went with the 360L for the detailed body and the fact that it basically the 2.0 version of the xl as there are some upgraded internal parts to. Not to say the xl is a lesser machine I just feel the 360 more looks the part.

skeeter
11-23-2017, 03:26 AM
Lenny, Thank-you sir, for the input. I wasn't sure if 12th scale diggers would work with our 14th scale trucks.

lenny
11-23-2017, 11:34 AM
as for scale you can always sticker up the 4200 to be a bigger machine. pc800 comes to mind as we just got one delivered and the thing is a monster.

skeeter
11-23-2017, 12:12 PM
I DO like that idea!

ditchdigger
11-23-2017, 10:56 PM
PC800? That'd be Vario size, which it's not even close to in stature... the China model is more so PC300.

liftmys10
11-24-2017, 12:50 AM
PC800? That'd be Vario size, which it's not even close to in stature... the China model is more so PC300.
I agree. I have my 1:14 PC700 next to a 4200xl and it dwarfs it. Additional Pics can be seen here: http://www.rctruckandconstruction.com/showthread.php?t=11995&page=3
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4581/38532327626_8c67f86357_c.jpg

Northern Farmer
11-24-2017, 01:20 AM
I agree. I have my 1:14 PC700 next to a 4200xl and it dwarfs it. Additional Pics can be seen here: http://www.rctruckandconstruction.com/showthread.php?t=11995&page=3
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4581/38532327626_8c67f86357_c.jpg

Agreed this is why I went with the Cat 330
http://i64.tinypic.com/inhm50.jpg

Alphazero_3
12-24-2017, 05:26 PM
Is there any further updates on this model? I was going to go the 360L route but this just has a lot more going for it as far as what it comes with.

Colin11123
03-03-2018, 11:31 PM
Hi guys
Anybody have any idea of the RAL code for liebherr yellow, I've got a 946von the way but they only have white available on this run

Northern Farmer
03-04-2018, 05:44 AM
Hi guys
Anybody have any idea of the RAL code for liebherr yellow, I've got a 946von the way but they only have white available on this run

Pretty sure it’s RAL 1007 (daffodil yellow).

Colin11123
03-05-2018, 06:21 AM
Nice one thanks ... had a chat online with the seller on Aliexpress and he is going to hopefully do a yellow one for me now. Can't fault his comms, so far been very helpful.

Monster Mudder
03-05-2018, 10:39 AM
Very curious how these perform for the price point.

Northern Farmer
03-05-2018, 01:40 PM
Very curious how these perform for the price point.

You can see one in action here

https://youtu.be/YFI6OvPbnmM
https://youtu.be/Q8J5CyLFB7s

Monster Mudder
03-05-2018, 08:28 PM
Awesome! What's the Cat 3360 in that second vid? Seemed to do really good digging the stones.

Northern Farmer
03-06-2018, 12:46 AM
Awesome! What's the Cat 3360 in that second vid? Seemed to do really good digging the stones.

The one in the video is a little customized but this is the excavator
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-14-RC-Hydraulic-Wheel-Loader/32747348404.html

Rimrock
03-06-2018, 04:21 AM
Very curious how these perform for the price point.

They run, but longlivity of parts varies from machine to machine. Just keep in mind that with relative low cost machines, one must be prepared for putting in more hours, and money, in service and parts than with the expencive ones. As they say, 'there is no free lunch' ) Note : Loctite 542 thread seal is always useful to have at hand.

Monster Mudder
03-06-2018, 12:00 PM
They run, but longlivity of parts varies from machine to machine. Just keep in mind that with relative low cost machines, one must be prepared for putting in more hours, and money, in service and parts than with the expencive ones. As they say, 'there is no free lunch' ) Note : Loctite 542 thread seal is always useful to have at hand.

I can't remember, are you the one that takes the frames and adds in the premacon hydralics?

Rimrock
03-07-2018, 02:44 AM
I can't remember, are you the one that takes the frames and adds in the premacon hydralics?

Yeah, that's correct. I've got some experience with the 'Faroe' type excavators, 'RTR' 954 (and similar models Komatsu 270, Cat 336) in 2017, it became clear that they still had some way to go concerning hydraulics and assembly skills. But the frames were ok (with some thigtening up of main joints) and cylinders, possible to ad proper hydraulic pump and valves. Figured out it was better to purchase the machines in kit form, without hydraulics, and assemble everything from the bottom, as I had some tools and experience within the field.
There is the Liebherr 946 that's higher priced and a looks to be a notch better put together, but I've no experience with it.

Colin11123
03-07-2018, 10:14 AM
Will let you know how it goes

Colin11123
03-07-2018, 10:20 AM
Should be there by the time I get home next month. From the YouTube vids looks like it could maybe do to have a slightly bigger bore cylinder on the bucket as it seems a bit "snappy" or could dial down the valve a bit but might loose a bit of breakout force... Will post up how it goes but for the money looks like a pretty solid machine.

CAT PUSHER
03-28-2018, 08:40 PM
I'm finishing up a Cat 339DL been waiting on oil thats been on back order, the model is built well went to gather nice the direction were mostly in Chinese . I got mine off EBAY with shipping for 2200.00 and didn't have to list my life with Allis what ever. AS soon as oil get hear I'll be ready to go , I spent 40+ years operating excavators but been retired 12yrs will see if my thumbs can getR done. After reading the earlier post I'll be looking at pins tomorrow, Thanks for heads up, I'm new to hobby. CAT PUSHER

Monster Mudder
06-03-2018, 12:50 AM
Stumbled across another one on aliexpress

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-14-RC-remote-control-metal-hydraulic-excavator-model-E380/32879664331.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000013.4.7083b 67dpqG6y6&scm=1007.13339.90158.0&scm_id=1007.13339.90158.0&scm-url=1007.13339.90158.0&pvid=e4baa4bd-1313-4db7-aacd-970b0c82fbeb&_t=pvid:e4baa4bd-1313-4db7-aacd-970b0c82fbeb,scm-url:1007.13339.90158.0

avel
06-12-2018, 01:49 PM
Monster Mudder, nice find.

liddy102
12-01-2019, 08:57 AM
I think the chinese products start with cheap price to attract attention.