Bill Signs trucking truck...not excactly...

[glorydays24]

OK everyone, I just wanted to let you see what I have in mind for a not to far off project...
I recently joined 1/24 scale model trucks, and I was going through the threads and came across something very interesteing. This gentleman named John had built a 1/25 scale model of the Bill Signs Trucking. It has a interesting spread axle configuration, with custom tool boxes between the axles...look's like some more of Russ's air ride:rolleyes:
Now I asked John if he would mind if I built this in 1/14 scale r/c, and he was honored:)
I had this model years ago, and it was a very detailed kit...Revell of Germany, what do you expect:eek:
I've contacted SnP (John) to paint the body, and it's like I told him, i've seen his paint jobs, and I have no worries;)
Anyhoo, i've babbled enough, and here is a couple of pic's of what I like to call "BIG BLUE"
The grill and the head light housings won't be painted.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/bsf61.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/bsignsf1.jpg

Let me know what you think...now if I can just get someone to make the tool boxes...:D

Thanx for looking, Big John

[Cossett]

Hi john, now that was and still is a great kit as there was a lot of chrome and $$$ to buy, to do justice to the kit I think you would be best following the way Brian in PA built his tipper with opening bonnet, going from there with custom grill /rear wall panel for the truck and the rest of the one off parts that this model kit was know for so when people see it they know it based on the revell kit......
http://www.wettringer-modellbauforum.de/forum/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=30433
http://pete389.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=showroom&action=display&thread=4284

Just my thoughts about it...

Cheers Tracy

[JAMMER]

This is a very nice looking tractor it has a lot of detail I like it a lot. Ed;)

[Izzy]

I say go for it - I like cossets ideas - might even get ahold of one of those cat die cast engines :)

[Espeefan]

Trucks like these seem to be Canadian in origin. You never see these in the USA. The spread drive axles is like a Canadian trademark. Not really sure why they build them like that. Another signature look of these trucks is the rear frame, beind the last axle. It's got a radius and not the typical frame taper to it. Very unique and cool. They have a really heavy look to them. I believe the radius frame is used to get a trailer up onto the 5th wheel.

Like Dustin said, Brand Modell did a truck up like this. Probably not the exact replica of this one, as I've seen quite a few variations of these spread axle trucks over the years. I have some photos, but I'd have to dig them up.

This would make an awesome build. I had ideas to do something up like this, but probably never will.

[REEVE2007]

The spread on the axles is a requiremnt for different weights depending on which state/country you are in. Alot of the states in the USA are the same but states like California that like to be DIFFERENT (harder on truckers) make there axle requirements completely different then most making it harder to get maximum weight on your axles in other states.

The tapered rear frame rails are ramps used in California 99.9% of the time. It is common for heavy haulers in the east to use self powered removable goose necks. It is most common for heavy haulers in California and some surrounding states to run manual removable goose neck trailers which requires ramps to get under the neck after yuo drop the trailer and un latch it.;)

Trucks like these seem to be Canadian in origin. You never see these in the USA. The spread drive axles is like a Canadian trademark. Not really sure why they build them like that. Another signature look of these trucks is the rear frame, beind the last axle. It's got a radius and not the typical frame taper to it. Very unique and cool. They have a really heavy look to them. I believe the radius frame is used to get a trailer up onto the 5th wheel.

Like Dustin said, Brand Modell did a truck up like this. Probably not the exact replica of this one, as I've seen quite a few variations of these spread axle trucks over the years. I have some photos, but I'd have to dig them up.

This would make an awesome build. I had ideas to do something up like this, but probably never will.

[glorydays24]

Hi john, now that was and still is a great kit as there was a lot of chrome and $$$ to buy, to do justice to the kit I think you would be best following the way Brian in PA built his tipper with opening bonnet, going from there with custom grill /rear wall panel for the truck and the rest of the one off parts that this model kit was know for so when people see it they know it based on the revell kit......
http://www.wettringer-modellbauforum.de/forum/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=30433
http://pete389.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=showroom&action=display&thread=4284

Just my thoughts about it...

Cheers Tracy

I do agree with you Tracy. Everything that I can do to replicate this truck, I am going to do my best...And with the great vendor's on the board, i'm sure i'll have no problem's:D

Big John

[glorydays24]

I say go for it - I like cossets ideas - might even get ahold of one of those cat die cast engines :)

I don't know about the dicast engine, do to there is na sleeper.
The motor/tranny would sit back so far, I don't think it would work.
But not a bad idea;)

Big John

[bigpipespete]

Seeing as i used to be a trucker , and live in canada i can tell you that 60 inch spread is the max. ive ever seen , and you rarely see that anymore cause its just too hard on the tires And we call those lowbed ramps, for picking up trailers that dont have landing gear. On such a short wheelbase tractor those rear tires would be worn out in a few months .

[glorydays24]

I want to thank everyone who has had input on the truck, telling me things I didn't know.
I'm thinking stock King Hauler frame...and with that, it might be a little longer than the actual truck, but that's ok with me.
I have the kh body and maybe a rolling chassis coming my way before to long...so now it's just a matter of time;)
If anyone has any idea's, input, or anything else to add, feel free to.
This is going to be interesting for sure:p:rolleyes::)

Thanx again, Big John

[CustomClod]

This is going to be a cool looking rig when its done! Keep us updated.
Scott

[Lil Giants]

Bill Signs Trucking is a californian heavy haulage company.

http://billsignstrucking.com/

[glorydays24]

Bill Signs Trucking is a californian heavy haulage company.

http://billsignstrucking.com/

Thank you so much for the link, very interesting reading:)
And the video made my mouth water, lol.:D

Big John

[glorydays24]

This is going to be a cool looking rig when its done! Keep us updated.
Scott

I sure will Scott, but I probably won't get started 'til after christmas...maybe santa will bring me some goodies. Probably not, according to the little lady of the house, I haven't been very good this year:(;)

Big John

[straightpipejakebrake]

I had this kit too and always wondered what it would be like in 1/14 RC. The stock KH fuel tanks should work fine. The biggest problems I think you will have is those straight pipes and the taper at the end of the frame. Doing the decals should not be a problem...just scan the originals and resize them for 1/14 right? I have the instruction manual, maybe I could scan it for you so you have an idea of what goes where? Good luck on the build and keep us updated!

[glorydays24]

I had this kit too and always wondered what it would be like in 1/14 RC. The stock KH fuel tanks should work fine. The biggest problems I think you will have is those straight pipes and the taper at the end of the frame. Doing the decals should not be a problem...just scan the originals and resize them for 1/14 right? I have the instruction manual, maybe I could scan it for you so you have an idea of what goes where? Good luck on the build and keep us updated!

Thank you spjb, i've wonderd on how this was done.
I contacted S&P, (John) to do the paint. And if he can, i'm going to have the graphic's painted...we'll see what happens.

Thanx buddy, Big John

[fhhhstix]

John here is a neat way of replying to multiple replies without doing a separate post for each one. Use the multi quote button beside the quote button in the bottom right side of the replies you want to reply to. Once you have clicked all of the multi quote buttons in the replies you want to reply to click on the post reply button in the lower left corner under the last post and it will put all of the quotes in one post and you can reply to them all at once and help keep your thread nice and tidy. I hope this helps make things easier and faster for you.

Travis

[Brian in PA]

Great lookin model John! these Revell of Germany are great kits. i built 2 Pete models and I still have 2 KW dumps to do. I'll probably never do it though. I like the detail they have like pose-able steering and opening doors.

Brian

[glorydays24]

Great lookin model John! these Revell of Germany are great kits. i built 2 Pete models and I still have 2 KW dumps to do. I'll probably never do it though. I like the detail they have like pose-able steering and opening doors.

Brian

John here is a neat way of replying to multiple replies without doing a separate post for each one. Use the multi quote button beside the quote button in the bottom right side of the replies you want to reply to. Once you have clicked all of the multi quote buttons in the replies you want to reply to click on the post reply button in the lower left corner under the last post and it will put all of the quotes in one post and you can reply to them all at once and help keep your thread nice and tidy. I hope this helps make things easier and faster for you.

Travis

God bless you fhhhstix. Now I know, and thanx a million.

Brian , revell of germany kit's are very detailed. I have to say the first truck was a c/o kw, and when I opened the box and seen all part's, chrome, and decal's, I was flabbergasted.
And there is something about a static model sitting there with the wheel's posed "steering", add's more realism.
But I do have one complaint about the germany truck kit's. On the cummin's, they don't have a starter...I guess there attitude is, "if you can't see it, why put it in the kit".:confused:

And right now tower hobbies has the Bill Sign's truck for $109.99.
Kinda pricey, but I think it's worth it considering all the detail:D

Big John

[Brian in PA]

But I do have one complaint about the germany truck kit's. On the cummin's, they don't have a starter...I guess there attitude is, "if you can't see it, why put it in the kit".

I'll have to check it out. I've never noticed that.

Brian

[Espeefan]

I found one of the pictures I had saved, which may be a big help to you. It really shows off the rear frame, and just how unique it is.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/Espeefan/BrandModellbauPeterbiltspreadaxle.jpg

This actually Brand-Modell's scratchbuilt truck. The guys who make a lot of accessories for these scale trucks. I wish I had more photos of it, but I don't. I do have some other 1/24 scale photos, showing the ramps.

[Espeefan]

Here are a few more photos. These are 1/25 scale, I think, but still very, very cool trucks. I'd love to build one myself, and that's why I saved the photos, but since I won't be getting to it anytime soon, I thought I'd share them with you.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/Espeefan/YellowPete.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/Espeefan/YellowPete2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/Espeefan/Pete359rearwindow2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/Espeefan/Pete359bigvisor.jpg

[Espeefan]

Found one more. This is the very last one I have.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/Espeefan/Peterbiltoctagonstacksandspreadrearwheels.jpg

This one is definitely a Canadian truck. I don't know how ever found this picture, but I saved it a long time ago. This one caught my eye because of the grille and stacks. Octagon stacks anyone?

[glorydays24]

Thanx so much Nathan...WOW!!! octagon stack's,:eek: now that would definitely be different. And a different style of tool boxes between the axle's. Boy I have a lot of planning to do...time to get out the notebook and write some thing's down. And I really needed the pic of rear of the frame, great shot.
And last but not least, a texas bumper???:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Interesting, look's like I have my work cut out for me...decision's, decision's:D:D:D

Thanx buddy, Big John

[ihbuilder]

:eek:almost 2 pages and no buildin yet :confused::rolleyes::p:p:p:p:p

can't wait to see this 1 goin

[Espeefan]

John, I'm glad you found those pictures helpful. Of interest is the fact that these trucks have day cab conversion kits on them. The sleepers were removed, and an aftermarket wall, with window, was added. Another really neat detail you could include on your build are the tanks, behind the cab. My guess would be that they are some type of aux. air tanks. I just noticed the brown Pete also has octagon breathers! And maybe it's not Canadian after all. It's got an American flag in the window!

[glorydays24]

John, I'm glad you found those pictures helpful. Of interest is the fact that these trucks have day cab conversion kits on them. The sleepers were removed, and an aftermarket wall, with window, was added. Another really neat detail you could include on your build are the tanks, behind the cab. My guess would be that they are some type of aux. air tanks. I just noticed the brown Pete also has octagon breathers! And maybe it's not Canadian after all. It's got an American flag in the window!

:eek:almost 2 pages and no buildin yet :confused::rolleyes::p:p:p:p:p

can't wait to see this 1 goin

ihbuilder, I know, I know...but there is a saying..."good things come to those who wait":D:D:D
Be patient my friend;)

Espeefan, I had this model a long time ago, and I alway's thought it was an American truck, and there's another idea...American flag in the rear window.
I didn't notice the breather's either, so many option's...which way will I go...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
As far as the air tank's, i'm putting everything on like the real truck, just with some twist and turn's that I possibly can. It won't be 100%, but it should be close.

Big John

[ihbuilder]

then should we move this up to general discussion till your ready to build ? Just a thought ;)

[glorydays24]

then should we move this up to general discussion till your ready to build ? Just a thought ;)

Not a problem Steve, thankyou.

Big John

[glorydays24]

Well I did some tinkering tonight. I thought I would attempt to see what I could do on the rear of the frame as far as the curved part.
I just did one side. And I have a set of stock king rails thanx to S&P, thanx buddy.
Now this is just a first run to get a feel for what's ahead.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0126.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0127.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0125.jpg

Let me know what you think, and thanx for looking;)

Big John

[Lars S]

Locking good!

[glorydays24]

Thank you Lars, I think I will tinker with the body tonight.;)

Big John

[straightpipejakebrake]

Wow that looks really good! Not sure if you answered this or not but are you building like the Bill Signs truck with the decals and all or are you building it like the blue one you posted?

[glorydays24]

Wow that looks really good! Not sure if you answered this or not but are you building like the Bill Signs truck with the decals and all or are you building it like the blue one you posted?

Thank you straightpipejakebrake. I am going with the blue, and the same graphic's if possible...Or since green is my fav color, who knows.:rolleyes:
If I do go with the blue, the name of the truck will be "BIG BLUE".;)

Big John

[Espeefan]

Looks like you're off to a good start on those frame rail ramps. Might be kind of neat if you could contract a guy to machine you those pieces out of aluminum. Nothing wrong with styrene though! Nice work.

[glorydays24]

Looks like you're off to a good start on those frame rail ramps. Might be kind of neat if you could contract a guy to machine you those pieces out of aluminum. Nothing wrong with styrene though! Nice work.

Thanx Nathan, I thought of the aluminum myself.
But if I do, it will have to wait 'til after christmas.

Big John

[glorydays24]

Well everyone, I have some news. I did some bartering with firefighter-1177, and in the trade, I got a king hauler rolling chassis, and a 48' spread axle flatbed body.
Now here's my delima:confused:
I have several options for the truck. I could build as the Bill Signs truck, a day cab pete, stretch the frame and super size the sleeper, or since I have a bruder mixer body, I could build a mixer. Now I went ahead and moved the front axle foward to look more like a pete, stretched the hood by 1/2" put the fuel tanks under the doors, put a headache rack on just to see which way I want to go.
And added a texas bumper. Here is a few pic's to show what i've done.



http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0144.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0145.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0146.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0147.jpg

I still need to do a little more body work. I would really appreciate any input on which way I should go. I know it's my truck, but I need some guidence.

Thanx for looking, Big John

[firefighter-1177]

I would go with the Big Blue idea(or big green, lime green might look good with the silver stripes) especially with the spread rear axles and tool bow in between them, that would be original. then maybe a lowboy to go with it... Or slap a few more axles under that flatbed and build a precast type load for it. Just my 2cents worth though!

[firefighter-1177]

Oh and a winch... defiantly a winch!

[glorydays24]

Oh and a winch... defiantly a winch!

Those are pretty good idea's, especialy the winch.
It's funny you mentioned the Bill Signs design because I started the tool boxes between the fenders. I'm getting ready to post pic's of what I got started.:)

Thanx Ken, Big John

[glorydays24]

Guy's and gal's, I started on the tool boxes between the rear fenders since I figure that woulb be the hardest part on the Bill Signs theme...here we go.:p
I decided to use the knight hauler tool boxes because I thought they would look pretty cool, and be a little different...Thanx for the boxes fhhhstix (Travis):)

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0149.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0150.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0151.jpg

That's it for now, took a little over two hours just to do one end. Maybe i'll use my hot knife on the rest.:rolleyes:

Let me know what you all think, and thanx for looking, Big John

[Brian in PA]

that's a cool idea John! Its gonna look great!

[glorydays24]

Thank you Brian, that mean's a lot coming from a realistic modeller as yourself.:D

Big John

[glorydays24]

Well I started to continue on the boxes between the rear fenders, and I sliced my thumb. So it might be a day or two before I continue. Yes I know I should've known better, but it happend:o
I'll post more pic's when I finish them.;)

Big John

[glorydays24]

Good news guy's and gal's, I got the toolboxes/fenders finished:D

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0152.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0153.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0154.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0155.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0156.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0157.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John

[sneaky-pete]

Those boxes look perfect........great job!

[firefighter-1177]

SWEET!!! now ya have to do the Bill Sings style truck!

[TRUCKMAKER]

The boxes turned out really sharp! Nice job!

[Crossy]

Great idea. Great job. I like it:D;)

[russisloud]

wow :eek: those are spot on. very nice

[firefighter-1177]

Those would look cool between the axles on that flatbed too. Just a thought ;p

[sgt hopkins]

Good work, looks like they came that way...

[BRICKNICK]

Those tool boxes look spot on...nice work

[gun]

:pNice job on those boxes Big john this truck is a cool build. are you going to get Ryno to paint it for you ?:cool::cool:

[glorydays24]

Those boxes look perfect........great job!
Thank you sneaky-pete:D
SWEET!!! now ya have to do the Bill Sings style truck!
I hear ya buddy, that's the direction i'm headed.;)
The boxes turned out really sharp! Nice job!
Thank you TRUCKMAKER.:D
wow :eek: those are spot on. very nice
Thank you Russ.:D
Those would look cool between the axles on that flatbed too. Just a thought ;p
I was thinking the same thing...Great minds think a like.:p;)
Good work, looks like they came that way...
Thank you sgt hopkins.:D
:pNice job on those boxes Big john this truck is a cool build. are you going to get Ryno to paint it for you ?:cool::cool:
Thank you gun, If I new Ryno, I would. I'll see if I can get someone to paint it.;):):D

Big John

[glorydays24]

Well I did a little more tonight. I made the other piece that curves at the end of the right frame rail. And I just had to mock up the boxes with the wheels just to see how it will look. Man i'm loving doing something different.:p;):)

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0158.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0159.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0160.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John

[petermoblin]

Looks really good John. Great idea using the tool boxes. Will they be functional?

[glorydays24]

Thank you petermoblin.:)They won't be functional. I had set that I could have used, but they are going on the "SLUMLORD".

Big John

[firefighter-1177]

Thats looking good!!!

[glorydays24]

Thank you Ken, but i'm deciding on what to do about the frame rails. They are stock lenght kh rails, and they will be to long as to the real truck. But I think it would turn easier to. Since I am different in a lot of way's lol, i'm thinking of leaving them be, and maybe adding some more tool boxes, maybe some air tanks, or whatever comes to mind.
If you all have idea's, I would like to hear them.

Thanx, Big John

[glorydays24]

OK boy's and girl's, I did a little more last night. I added the top strips to the tail end. Just a little body filler, and then primer to see where i'm at.
I think the next step is to build the dolly. I'm, thinking tri-axle, we'll see...

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0161.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0162.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0163.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0164.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John

[eurocharged]

glorydays24, you sure got some great skills... i wish i had those skills

[glorydays24]

Thank you eurocharged, but I don't have that many skills. I just try to plan before I go for it. And you know the ol' saying...measure twice, cut once lol.
Believe it or not, there was a time I was so afraid, I wouldn't even think of trying to cut a body or do anything that was different.
The key to it all, is to take your time and have fun.:D:):p;)

Big John

[glorydays24]

Here are a few pic's of the dolly i've been working on. Do you think it would look good if I made a tail end for the dolly as I did on the truck?

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0165.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0166.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0167.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John

[firefighter-1177]

I think it would look good. Heck it looks good already!

[glorydays24]

Thank you Ken, much appreciated.;)I think i'll get started on it tonight.

Big John

[glorydays24]

Well I finally got the suspension on. When I made the strips for the rear of the frame, I didn't make them as wide as the truck's because of the fifth wheel plate i'm useing. Just thought it would look better. I want any opinions you may have about the tri-axle fenders...yes or no:confused:, I like it either way.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0168.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0170.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0171.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John

[glorydays24]

Well I started back on the cab with more body work. I got the back wall cut out for the insert, and made the pieces that go right behind the hood on the bottom of the cab.
Now a question. What could I use for the gasket around the insert and the back window?

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0172.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0173.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0174.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John

[glorydays24]

It's been a little while since I posted anything on this truck, so here it goes.:p
Since I modified knight hauler boxes between the rear fenders, I figured I would mod a couple more into a different style of peterbilt box/step combo. And if I have enough material, i'm thinking on replacing the steps on the fuel tanks.
Here are some pic's of what i'm shooting for. Let me know what you think.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0178.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0179.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0180.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0181.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John

[Ruffazz Express]

good work John those boxs look sweet this trucks gona look **** hot :D:D:D:D

[TRUCKMAKER]

Every thing your doin' is looking real good Big John, can't wait to see it done hooked to the jeep (tri-axle dolly) and drop deck, with a monster machine hanging off the the sides!

[glorydays24]

good work John those boxs look sweet this trucks gona look **** hot :D:D:D:D
Thank you Ruffazz Express:) I'm needing some more of Russ's air ride suspension, and it's driving me crazy because I can't hit him up right now.:(

Big John

Every thing your doin' is looking real good Big John, can't wait to see it done hooked to the jeep (tri-axle dolly) and drop deck, with a monster machine hanging off the the sides!
Thank you TRUCKMAKER:) That's my down fall, I don't have any machine's to haul. And I think for the moment, i've done all I can to the truck.:( But I can start on the lowboy.:) There's going to be a lot of plastic, so I don't know how much weight it will carry...we'll see.:rolleyes::p:eek:

Big John

[Brian in PA]

The spread axle looks good. the tools boxes really add too it. Nice work John!!

[glorydays24]

The spread axle looks good. the tools boxes really add too it. Nice work John!!
Thank you Brian:) But it won't compare with you dumps by any means. But that's ok, we all can't be master builders as yourself. You da' man.:D:D

Big John

[russisloud]

big john, your new build is going to look great when its rolling :)

[glorydays24]

big john, your new build is going to look great when its rolling :)
Thank you Russ:D i'm sendind a pm.

Big John

[Bsorenson79]

Your build is awsome!! I'm always looking forward to more updates.

[glorydays24]

Your build is awsome!! I'm always looking forward to more updates.

Thank you Bsorenson:D, i'm slowly getting there.:rolleyes:

Big John

[glorydays24]

Have a small update, but no pic's...yet.:rolleyes: I have some more of Russ's air ride coming, and when I get them, i'll get them mounted on the truck with the toolbox's/fender's combo mounted. I'm getting back into the swing of things.;) Stay tuned, and thanx for looking.:D

Big John

[firefighter-1177]

So heres a thought on a trailer... what about a polished aluminum flatbed maybe with some paint accents in there to match the truck, and then between the spread axle on the trailer a toolbox like the ones on the rig. Just a thought, take it or leave it. If only you had a good flatbed trailer. Lmao!

[glorydays24]

So heres a thought on a trailer... what about a polished aluminum flatbed maybe with some paint accents in there to match the truck, and then between the spread axle on the trailer a toolbox like the ones on the rig. Just a thought, take it or leave it. If only you had a good flatbed trailer. Lmao!

LMAO to Ken.:D:D I'm planning on putting the flatbed behind my scania. But now the tool box/fender combo is on my mind. Great minds think alike.:eek:

Big John

[Espeefan]

Big John, your making good headway! I really think you've got a great looking jeep/dolly! That turned out really nice. The truck is coming along too. Take your time and enjoy the build. I find I make the best progress when I get into the mood and groove. As for windows and gaskets, I've made gaskets out of thinner styrene, and framed window cut-outs in doors and cab walls. What you do is make the gasket smaller in size, so when glued over the window opening, it frames the window, so to speak, and gives you a shoulder and an edge for the glass to sit inside.

So as not to derail your build thread, you can check out this link to see what I mean about the window gaskets and such. http://www.rctruckandconstruction.com/showthread.php?t=3546

[glorydays24]

Big John, your making good headway! I really think you've got a great looking jeep/dolly! That turned out really nice. The truck is coming along too. Take your time and enjoy the build. I find I make the best progress when I get into the mood and groove. As for windows and gaskets, I've made gaskets out of thinner styrene, and framed window cut-outs in doors and cab walls. What you do is make the gasket smaller in size, so when glued over the window opening, it frames the window, so to speak, and gives you a shoulder and an edge for the glass to sit inside.

So as not to derail your build thread, you can check out this link to see what I mean about the window gaskets and such. http://www.rctruckandconstruction.com/showthread.php?t=3546

Thank you Nathan for the compliment. I am enjoying this build. The idea of using thin styrene for gaskets is a great idea...I make a lot of things harder than they have to be sometimes.:rolleyes::confused:

Thanx buddy, Big John

[dabears]

Love the toolboxes! Your a great builder! Can't wait to see more

[glorydays24]

Love the toolboxes! Your a great builder! Can't wait to see more

Thank you so much:D that means a lot.:)

Big John

[hvy 1ton]

Just found this thread. Probably a bit late, but there are some good shots of Papa Clyde here (http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?16552-Tonka-s-Truck-Pictures&p=244242&viewfull=1#post244242).

[glorydays24]

Just found this thread. Probably a bit late, but there are some good shots of Papa Clyde here (http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?16552-Tonka-s-Truck-Pictures&p=244242&viewfull=1#post244242).

Thanx for the thread hvy 1ton.:D I've never seen those pic's before, but I do like the octagon pipes and breathers, and i'm sure I could have one of the vendors make some. I also love the grill, but having just one made out of aluminum would probably be a small fortune.:rolleyes: But maybe I could work with a king hauler grill and see what I could do. Papa Clyde look's good:D

Big John

[hvy 1ton]

Yep it does look good. Hands down my favorite Pete. The grill, bumper and double squares give it a unique look. I'm not a huge fan of the octagonal cleaners, but the pipes are sweet just because of the technical difficultly. The rumor is its packing a kta-1150 under the hood. The phrase more power than god comes to mind.

[glorydays24]

Yep it does look good. Hands down my favorite Pete. The grill, bumper and double squares give it a unique look. I'm not a huge fan of the octagonal cleaners, but the pipes are sweet just because of the technical difficultly. The rumor is its packing a kta-1150 under the hood. The phrase more power than god comes to mind.

I don't know a lot about diesel's, but it sounds like "PAPA CLYDE" is ready for anything.:eek::eek::eek:

Big John

[glorydays24]

OK all you good people, I got my air ride, thanx Russ.:D
I got it mounted tonight, and thought I could use the main drive shaft from the globe liner, but it is a no go.:p Tomorrow i'm going to get the tool box/fenders on, and cut down a drive shaft from PMD.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0209.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0210.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0211.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0212.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John

[Pubtrucker_Germany]

Hi John,

there is only one I can say: WOW
Great job

[glorydays24]

Hi John,

there is only one I can say: WOW
Great job

Thank you so much:D I'm trying boss, im trying.:eek:

Big John

[glorydays24]

Well I got the driveshaft in, and the toolbox's/fenders combo's mounted.:)
I love this truck because it's different.:D:p:)

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0216.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0215.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0214.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John

[russisloud]

hey thats some kool stuff

[dabears]

LOVE the new air ride!!! The toolbox looks sweet mounted !!

[MACK Daddy]

Not enough can be said about those tool boxes..They came out awesome

Keeping an eye on this thread..Great Build so far

Alfy

[glorydays24]

hey thats some kool stuff
Thanx Russ, this air ride is a God send.:D

LOVE the new air ride!!! The toolbox looks sweet mounted !!
Thanx Aaron.:)

Not enough can be said about those tool boxes..They came out awesome

Keeping an eye on this thread..Great Build so far

Alfy
Thanx Alfy.:D

Big John

[BRICKNICK]

You really nailed those tool boxes....nice work

[glorydays24]

You really nailed those tool boxes....nice work

Thank you BRICKNICK:D, I have a spread axle flatbed, and i'm going to do the same on it. But i'll have to everything from scratch, and making everything out of styrene.:eek:

Big John

[glorydays24]

Well I did a little more today. I shot some more primer and got the back wall made and installed. I just used some wire to make the gasket, and decided to go ahead and put the headache rack on since this a heavy hauler and i'm not doing this exactly like the 1:1.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0232.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0233.jpg

And I snapped a couple shots of the gooseneck dolly hooked to her.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0234.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0235.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John

[firefighter-1177]

LOOKING GOOD!!! I like the headache rack look. Have you decided on a color yet?

[dabears]

I like! That truck is looking Sweet! Love the dolly too

[glorydays24]

LOOKING GOOD!!! I like the headache rack look. Have you decided on a color yet?
Thank you Ken.:D I'm not quite sure on the colors yet...I think I do want a two-tone though. Maybe White body with grabber green fenders, roof, and frame. Or black body and the same on the green. As for the dolly and lowboy, either matching the truck or possibly black. But with me, you never know...:eek::p;)

I like! That truck is looking Sweet! Love the dolly too
Thank you Aaron.:D I still need to do some more work on the dolly, but it WILL get done. LOL!!!:p:eek:

Thanx, Big John

[MACK Daddy]

In the Immortal words of "The Dude"....I like your style


ALfy

[SWAGGER]

Both truck and dolly are hardcore John. It reminds of the kind of rig you would see haulin' a rocket or missle or something. Idea there?

This is a Chinese truck but it's kinda the idea your truck gave me.
http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig03/10032679t2.jpg

Of course these are kinda 50's looking cabs.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/east_europe/russia/missile_vehicle/sa-2_guideline/SA-2_Guideline_S-75_low_%20to_high_altitude_ground-to-air_missile_system_on_truck_Russia_Russian_640.jpg

More modern pic of what I was thinking:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUKd6KUm2iHqk3g8lzWxDx71H-8eSFW-5mrnSEZenE9uP4kZ6J

[SWAGGER]

Dammit! My mind's on overdrive now.

Looking at rockets, start out mega cheap:
http://www.apogeerockets.com/Rocket_Kits/Skill_Level_1_Kits/Apprentice_Starter_Set

I'm picturing a trailer that has a screw drive or hydraulic lift like a dump trailer, that can be RC controlled to lift the rocket into a vertical position and then some sort of RC trigger to fire the rocket straight from the trailer.

Awe......how cool would that be? SOMEBODY HAS TO DO THIS!

[SWAGGER]

Seems somebody actually has, with an RC Tonka Truck, watch until the end:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us0ueda0foE

Oh and Big John......sorry for taking your thread on a wild tangent, your truck just made me think of a mobile rocket launcher for some reason!! LOL!

I think it was your last pic, with the big long box over the trailer....

[glorydays24]

In the Immortal words of "The Dude"....I like your style
Thax Alfy, that really means a lot.:)


ALfy

Seems somebody actually has, with an RC Tonka Truck, watch until the end:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us0ueda0foE

Oh and Big John......sorry for taking your thread on a wild tangent, your truck just made me think of a mobile rocket launcher for some reason!! LOL!

I think it was your last pic, with the big long box over the trailer....

No worries buddy, I love seeing different types of trucks and loads.;) And it gives ma so many different ways I could go with this.:p And thanx for thr threads.:D

Big John

[glorydays24]

SWAGGER, when I saw the rocket video, it reminded me when I was in the eight grade. Our science teacher gave the students different projects we could do, and I picked the rocket. Well I bought the kit, built it, and my dad and me went out in the backyard and tested it out. Well when it launched, I didn't realise how powerful these were. The wind was perfect, the rocket came down about three to five feet from where it launched. Now when it came time to take it to school, we went out to the football field to set them off. Well when it was my turn, I got everything in place, and it was kind of windy, and there was a river behind the tree line. I launched it, and it was beautiful. Well as it was coming back down, the wind caught the chute, and carried it (you guessed it) right into the river...that was the last time I saw my rocket, and a bad day.:( But I laugh about it now.:p

Big John

[SWAGGER]

Oh no, sorry hear that ...LOL!! Well you could always relive that but do it bigger and badder and launch it from your own custom missle truck! Have a school reunion "American Pie" style and show em all how you nailed it in the end!

[cyanide]

Really cool truck. I like the gooseneck! That's alot of rubber, you must be planning some big loads.

cheers, Marc

[glorydays24]

Oh no, sorry hear that ...LOL!! Well you could always relive that but do it bigger and badder and launch it from your own custom missle truck! Have a school reunion "American Pie" style and show em all how you nailed it in the end!
American Pie, LOL, LOL!!! The guy's who thought it was funny when my rocket transffered into a boat wouldn't think it was so funny if I showed up with this rig and launched a rocket, now would they.:p:D

Really cool truck. I like the gooseneck! That's alot of rubber, you must be planning some big loads.

cheers, Marc
Thank you Marc, i'm not quite sure on the load yet, but yes i'm planning something big.:eek::eek:

Big John

[DuelTruckDriver]

Well I did a little more today. I shot some more primer and got the back wall made and installed. I just used some wire to make the gasket, and decided to go ahead and put the headache rack on since this a heavy hauler and i'm not doing this exactly like the 1:1.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0232.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0233.jpg

And I snapped a couple shots of the gooseneck dolly hooked to her.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0234.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0235.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John


Big John, thats just cool how the rear axles are spaced with the boxes in between! I'ven never seen a truck like this even in pictures.

Truck and tralier is massive, awesome work man!

>Marty<

[glorydays24]

Big John, thats just cool how the rear axles are spaced with the boxes in between! I'ven never seen a truck like this even in pictures.

Truck and tralier is massive, awesome work man!

>Marty<
Thank you Marty.:D I had a revell of germany 1/25 scale model of the actual "Bill signs" truck, and it was super detailed. And when I found these tamiya trucks, I started thinking of the static models I had through the years, and wonderd if I could replicate any of them in r/c. Well this the first, and hopefully not the last.:rolleyes:

Big John

[glorydays24]

This one is almost ready for Indy...I got the driveshaft from PMD, adjusted the boxes in front of the 1st drive axle, added mudflaps, and some PMD aluminum wheels I got last summer. I just need to install the radio and speed control. It's just gonna have the basics to run.:p;):rolleyes:

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0295.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0296.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0297.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John

[dabears]

Sweet!! Love the those fronts you got. looks like that cab is ready for paint?? :) What color is it going to be?

[glorydays24]

Sweet!! Love the those fronts you got. looks like that cab is ready for paint?? :) What color is it going to be?

Thankyou Aaron, yea the fronts do give the truck attitude.:p;) I'm thinking of grabber green fenders, roof, and frame with either a black or white body...and of coarse matching gooseneck and lowboy.

Big John

[glorydays24]

Well I laid down some paint on Mr. spread axle today. Now when Indy time comes, it will have some color.;) I haven't clear coated yet, that will be after the show.:p

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0319.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0320.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0321.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John

[hippy]

great color combo! really looking good.

[dabears]

Love it! Looking good big John! Hurry up and finish it I wanna see it :)

[glorydays24]

great color combo! really looking good.

Thanx buddy, I love the grabber green and black, you know something different.:D

Love it! Looking good big John! Hurry up and finish it I wanna see it :)

Thankyou. Patience grass hopper,:rolleyes: it will be done for Indy:D:p;).

Big John

[MACK Daddy]

that color combo definitley sets you apart from everyone else..I like it

truck is looking pretty good so far

Alfy

[glorydays24]

that color combo definitley sets you apart from everyone else..I like it

truck is looking pretty good so far

Alfy

Thanx Alfy, that truely means a lot coming from a master builder as your self.:)

Big John

[glorydays24]

Well boys and girls, i've been busy the past two days.:p I've got most of the painting done, but I ran out of grabber green.:( I'll have to get some more for the allen screws on the rear wheels. Let me know what you think.:)

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0322.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0323.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0325.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0324.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0326.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John

[dabears]

I think i like it Big John!!! Looks great, just gotta pull a grill on it ;) lol The green and black look great together!

[firefighter-1177]

LOOKING GOOD!!!!! One suggestion though, maybe try to mod the box in front of the center axle so it flows into the rear fender. You know so it matches the tool boxes. just a thought. But it still LOOKS GREAT!!!

[glorydays24]

I think i like it Big John!!! Looks great, just gotta pull a grill on it ;) lol The green and black look great together!
Thanx buddy, yea it definitely needs a grill, lol.:p;):)

LOOKING GOOD!!!!! One suggestion though, maybe try to mod the box in front of the center axle so it flows into the rear fender. You know so it matches the tool boxes. just a thought. But it still LOOKS GREAT!!!

Thanx Ken, and another member suggested the same thing on the boxes. And I started to but backed off for now. If I do this, it will be after Indy.:):)

Big John

[glorydays24]

Here's an update, I got a pair of ihbuilder's (Steve's) air cleaners, and they are sweet.:D:) And when I was at Indy, I picked up a set of head lights and antennas from Ric. Now I have decided to go all green and the truck will be named "GREEN GOBLIN". After I re-paint the cab, I will get an aluminum drop visor, and hopefully one of Brians sweet grills.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0366.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0367.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John

[hippy]

DUDE! That is sexy! Awesome job!

[glorydays24]

DUDE! That is sexy! Awesome job!

Thanx buddy.:):):)

Big John

[plow jockey]

That looks sweet Big John! I really like the front fender flares. nice touch.

[petermoblin]

Truck is looking really sweet, great job. What type of drive shaft are you using in between the drive axles?

[glorydays24]

That looks sweet Big John! I really like the front fender flares. nice touch.

Thankyou Fred, I had some 1/4" rubber tubing, and went for it lol.:p:):eek:

Truck is looking really sweet, great job. What type of drive shaft are you using in between the drive axles?

Thankyou buddy, I used a PMD drive shaft. I just cut it to the lenght I needed. I thought the main shaft from a globe would work, but it was a bit short.:rolleyes:

Big John

[Espeefan]

Hey John, been a while since I checked your thread out. Your truck turned out really nice. I was going to ask you what you used for the rubber fender flares, but after looking closer, I can see it's just a masked off area, with your fender modifications, still dressed in black. It looks good.

[Kaf343]

This build is top notch, thought I liked the black and green but the all green is kicken. Nice job.

[glorydays24]

Hey John, been a while since I checked your thread out. Your truck turned out really nice. I was going to ask you what you used for the rubber fender flares, but after looking closer, I can see it's just a masked off area, with your fender modifications, still dressed in black. It looks good.

This build is top notch, thought I liked the black and green but the all green is kicken. Nice job.

Thanx guy's, much appreciated.:):):):)

Big John

[glorydays24]

I got a little something in the mail from Stepside (Rod), and I wanted to show all of you my new "BLING" I added. I love this visor.:D:D:D

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0386.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0387.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/glorydays24/100_0388.jpg

Thanx for looking, Big John

[dabears]

YAY an update!!! NOw get back to work on this beast! Looks good with the new visor!

[plow jockey]

Looks good!! Makes that truck look mean!! Keep those updates coming. Nice job John.

[Supermario]

Looks great John! Amazing how much the visor really adds to the look compared to the stock one:cool:
Keep the updates coming :)

Mario

[BRICKNICK]

This bad boy looks mean so far. It looks ten times nicer with the gangster drop visor....what is your idea for exhaust?

[glorydays24]

YAY an update!!! NOw get back to work on this beast! Looks good with the new visor!
Thankyou Aaron.:D

Looks good!! Makes that truck look mean!! Keep those updates coming. Nice job John.
Thankyou Fred.:D

Looks great John! Amazing how much the visor really adds to the look compared to the stock one:cool:
Keep the updates coming :)

Mario
Thankyou Mario, and yes the visor does l@@k a lot better.:D

This bad boy looks mean so far. It looks ten times nicer with the gangster drop visor....what is your idea for exhaust?
Thankyou BRICKNICK, "gangster", lol. As far as the exhaust goes, I talked to Russ at Indy, and were going to try to duplicate the 1:1 rig. There's a couple of pic's at the beginning of this thread.:D

Big John

[BRICKNICK]

Hey big John when I say "gangster" drop visor that's because that's what I've seen the low 16" drop visors called. Atleast that's what they are listed as in the Iowa 80 chrome shop catalog.

[Trucker_Jo]

So Sick love it:p:p!