View Full Version : left over build (Cat 825C maybe )
ihbuilder
03-02-2014, 06:13 PM
As you all know I made some sheep foot wheels for Ben . I made extra set to make sure I had 1 good set till all the machine ops where completed just in case of the possible mishap ( murphy's law :rolleyes:) Well I have a good set of 4 left , 2 liembach axles and motors ,and a loader front that was too small for the 990 . So , why not make a compactor , right ?:rolleyes:. Also taking a lil self time every week from now on to get some of these projects done :rolleyes: . The + side of this , I'm giving myself a ton of tig practice ,almost as good as Reg by now :D ( I think :o ).
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after having a hard time getting in the loader with my big hands , cab and hood flip open for easier access .
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tank in front is oil tank :)
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sparkycuda
03-02-2014, 06:20 PM
Steve, looks great for a "left over build". I do enjoy the variety of equipment that folks build, and the quality of the work. Seems you put this thing together very quickly! Guess we'll need something besides rubber mulch in order to see it compact something. Great job!
Ken
RCP57
03-02-2014, 06:51 PM
Cool! You can probably weld better than me but have you mastered the angle grinding and filing yet?:p:rolleyes:
Love the new machine and I am also understanding the need to take time for your own projects....
Keep up the great work!
ihbuilder
03-02-2014, 07:01 PM
Steve, looks great for a "left over build". I do enjoy the variety of equipment that folks build, and the quality of the work. Seems you put this thing together very quickly! Guess we'll need something besides rubber mulch in order to see it compact something. Great job!
Ken
Ken with luck it'll be in the dirt at Cabin Fever . Next week cylinders and valves .
Cool! You can probably weld better than me but have you mastered the angle grinding and filing yet?:p:rolleyes:
Love the new machine and I am also understanding the need to take time for your own projects....
Keep up the great work!
Reg , I learned to back off on the voltage (?) as I finish a bead and let it fill up and go back and blend in . I finally can see the puddle .
Yes , going 7 days a week starts to wear on ya , before you know winter will be gone :( and I'll be outside trying to finish the siding on the addition .
Lil Giants
03-02-2014, 07:30 PM
NIFTY!!! :cool:
If only you had one set of wheels for me to bolt up to my Stahl loader? :D
RCP57
03-02-2014, 07:58 PM
Yeah too much amps was my first big mistake too. I went to a local guru and asked what I was doing wrong and he quickly pointed that out. Sometimes it seems like heating the object slowly does the trick and other times it needs a quick blast of heat. I have yet to master when to use each procedure... Practice does make us better though and so does determination. I know I will never be really good at it but I keep trying and get lucky every now and then.
bigford
03-02-2014, 08:09 PM
nice landfill wheels!!!
ihbuilder
03-02-2014, 08:15 PM
Dad always told me to watch the puddle to much heat and you can see a sink hole forming thats when you back off . I just wish I had the foot peddle and not the thumb dial . Every time I need to back off I dip the tungsten in :(
bigford :
" nice landfill wheels!!!"
thanks :) landfill wheels are triangles . these are standard soil compactor
Joe : thank you , I may be making some more someday for a pull behind ;) all the segments are the same .
doodlebug
03-02-2014, 09:21 PM
Great start Steve!
Cheer's, Neil.
Espeefan
03-03-2014, 02:44 AM
Nice work Steve! That's some serious looking heavy metal sitting there. What are you using for a drivetrain?
ihbuilder
03-03-2014, 08:57 PM
Great start Steve!
Cheer's, Neil.
TY , Neil
Nice work Steve! That's some serious looking heavy metal sitting there. What are you using for a drivetrain?
TY Nate , It's in the opening post (liembach/stal motor axles)
ihbuilder
03-03-2014, 09:04 PM
Oh boy now I'm stoked :D did a lil wiring and morpower valve mods between part changes . now she rolls :bounce::bounce:
vid is narrow view :confused:
http://youtu.be/Zyf_6gxWp8w
pic of it gettin tight under the hood and a few next to the 990 .
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thanks for lookin ;)
RCP57
03-03-2014, 09:11 PM
Sweet! Have you ran any juice through the morpower stuff yet? Are you running their pump in this too? I keep looking at their stuff but have been reluctant to pull the trigger on it. I want it for something that won't run a bunch of pressure but you know how that goes....
Keep the progress goin!
ihbuilder
03-03-2014, 10:27 PM
Reg , I just bought the valves from them for this awhile back . The pump is a Micropump I got off ebay ( thread in the construction teck forum ) I modified it for the $* log truck but it was just to bulky to look right with the limited room I have on that truck . So it went here . I have to make cylinders and a PRV and need an esc for the pump and finish the blade then it'll be full operational . The quickest and relaxing build yet for me that didn't cost a bunch like my big Mack :cool:
ihbuilder
03-09-2014, 10:22 PM
All I got done this weekend . ran over on a production run that needed to be done :( .
Axle pivot pins
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Back floor pan for elec's
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ihbuilder
03-10-2014, 08:50 PM
1st we started with 4"x5" bar (what was laying around that would work :rolleyes:)
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz230/ihbuilder/file_zpsdc34453a.jpg
end result , top portion of ROP
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thanks for lookin
Ekimjr
03-10-2014, 09:09 PM
looks great<<<<<<< wishing i had the machining tools to that kinda stuff my self......
but great job i love it
ihbuilder
03-12-2014, 08:44 PM
TY , Ekimjr:)
some blade pics blade is ugly till I get more welding gas:rolleyes:
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thanks for looking
Snochaser
03-12-2014, 09:46 PM
I'd be embarrassed to show that in a public forum! :)
doodlebug
03-12-2014, 10:06 PM
Nice job on the tilt blade!
Cheers, Neil.
ihbuilder
03-12-2014, 10:48 PM
Ha ha yea I know Ben :p
Thank you Neil . I really can't call it a cat with that tilt design it might just get the shade of yellow I grew up on mostly :)
doodlebug
03-13-2014, 12:30 AM
Ha ha yea I know Ben :p
Thank you Neil . I really can't call it a cat with that tilt design it might just get the shade of yellow I grew up on mostly :)
You mean "faded" :lol::lol::lol::p Yah I know its a dozer design:D:D
Cheer's, Neil.
dabears
03-13-2014, 12:49 AM
Dang Steve looking great!! Cant wait to see it pushing some dirt around!
Kingcam2
03-13-2014, 02:55 AM
Looking good Ihbuilder,
Can't wait to see this finished.
Regards Cam.
ihbuilder
03-13-2014, 06:47 PM
thinking taking it with me on sat., so I mounted a servo for steering and mounted the ROPs .
short vid with crappy cam since new cam giving me trouble taking vids :mad:I did have it on a stand ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwW4LXmxa2I
2nd 1 from iPhone actually is 1st vid taken . I just can't figure out why it takes in a narrow window :/
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ywSQMBiJyQ0#
TRUCKMAKER
03-13-2014, 08:48 PM
Wow Steve its coming along great! Cant wait to see the blade and paint on it!
Cooper
03-13-2014, 10:00 PM
Love the feet!! Would be perfect for compacting after dozing my 1:14 scale short course truck track:)
ihbuilder
03-13-2014, 10:51 PM
Copper, truckmaker thanks a bunch
I've been giving this some thought :rolleyes: since the hi-tech 645MG does a nice job of steering , I might give the firgelli actuators a shot for the blade functions . Anyone know the actual length of the 50mm stroke pin center to pin center closed ? I got plenty other places to put that pump and valves in :D
ihbuilder
03-14-2014, 11:52 AM
Anyone know the actual length of the 50mm stroke pin center to pin center closed ?
I found it on their site :rolleyes: even the 30mm is to long and I'm not redoing that part . so back to plan A :rolleyes: Make it all tight in the cabin and engine house :rolleyes: .
Lil Giants
03-14-2014, 04:44 PM
Well that's too bad... an all electric set up would have been perfect for this lil beast, all the extra space could've been used for steel & lead weight.
I'm really liking those crows feet, hoping it's sooner than later when you make another run. ;)
ihbuilder
03-14-2014, 06:01 PM
Well that's too bad... an all electric set up would have been perfect for this lil beast, all the extra space could've been used for steel & lead weight.
I'm really liking those crows feet, hoping it's sooner than later when you make another run. ;)
right now it weighs in at 20lbs 9.5oz w/out the blade . the wheels are the majority of the weight (3-3.5 lbs a piece ), I suppose I could make them work . It's just moving the tilt boss on the blade back 10mm . Then I can fill the oil tank with BB's .
when I clean the mill out to run steel I'll throw them in the schedule .
JAMMER
03-15-2014, 11:11 AM
Nice work Steve hope to see you in York. Ed
doodlebug
03-16-2014, 12:24 AM
thinking taking it with me on sat., so I mounted a servo for steering and mounted the ROPs .
short vid with crappy cam since new cam giving me trouble taking vids :mad:I did have it on a stand ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwW4LXmxa2I
2nd 1 from iPhone actually is 1st vid taken . I just can't figure out why it takes in a narrow window :/
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ywSQMBiJyQ0#
Hey Steve, which way did you have the phone oriented?
That would make a fun meat tenderizer, HMM, now I'm in the mood for BBQ :lol::lol::lol::p
Cheer's, Neil.
ihbuilder
03-30-2014, 10:40 PM
I was going to go with firgellis (don't worry I got another place to use them :) ) but time is running short for cabin fever :( . Cylinder production is almost complete so ,WTH , get er done :rolleyes: cap nuts and we good to go .
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of course we throw nothing away stack is made from setup pieces and leftover tube . inside is a piston that had chatter in o-ring groves :(
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Claus
03-30-2014, 10:46 PM
How do you find time to build all of these wonderful toys? Keep it up!
modelman
03-31-2014, 01:35 PM
This is a really unique model steve. I enjoy looking at something different for a change. Nice work as always.
ihbuilder
04-06-2014, 07:45 PM
How do you find time to build all of these wonderful toys? Keep it up!
I don't, I just force myself to take some time . A lot of these where started a year or 2 ago . I just resolved to start finishing 1-3 at a time before starting any new 1's this year :rolleyes:
This is a really unique model steve. I enjoy looking at something different for a change. Nice work as always.
thank you ,Tom :)
Ben (snochaser) helped with this idea .
lil update . "micropump" I modified will not cut it :( It seems they're not designed for hydraulics . So , rearrange everything AGAIN and put a jung setup I have sittin around and boy is it packed under the hood :eek:
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thanks for lookin;)
sparkycuda
04-06-2014, 08:47 PM
Hey, Steve, looks like you hit another home run! How you got all that stuff under the hood is a magic trick in itself. Decals and glass will top it off. I really like the blade mechanism - just like the real thing.
You may have covered hydraulic cylinder making in another thread, but do you use single or double o-rings on the piston? O-ring for the rod packing?
Ken
9W Monighan
04-06-2014, 10:02 PM
:popcorn: Hope that can make me a bench to set on.
ihbuilder
04-06-2014, 10:58 PM
Hey, Steve, looks like you hit another home run! How you got all that stuff under the hood is a magic trick in itself. Decals and glass will top it off. I really like the blade mechanism - just like the real thing.
You may have covered hydraulic cylinder making in another thread, but do you use single or double o-rings on the piston? O-ring for the rod packing?
Ken
TY . I use o-rings on the piston and an X-ring for rod seal/wiper . On these I put a o-ring behind the X-ring for the rod seal/wiper . seams to work well so far .
:popcorn: Hope that can make me a bench to set on.
we'll rough in with the loader and dress up with this . It pushes lose dirt OK but it wont be makin cuts . I hope the dirt is not to wet :confused: I wont get the cleaners made and on in time :( . I still have to put the loader back together :eek: I remade the lift cylinders to get the extra 2" of lift . I just need to setup and run the rams yet . 1st thing in the morn .
Snochaser
04-07-2014, 01:13 PM
Looking good Stevie!
SmallHaul
04-07-2014, 02:03 PM
Nice work Steve. Very cool machine!
egronvold
04-08-2014, 01:57 PM
Nice and unique. Should have alot of pushing power.
ihbuilder
04-18-2014, 10:21 AM
vid courtesy of Steve (9W) working at CFE2014 I have another from my brother just trying to get it .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87SeGrTXv9c
Lil Giants
04-18-2014, 11:46 AM
So what esc do you have for for/rev control?
ihbuilder
04-18-2014, 03:16 PM
So what esc do you have for for/rev control?
40 amp Pro boat , they work pretty nice for the price .
here's the vid my brother took . the tilt was giving me trouble .
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa5jHVTJ1-Q
Lil Giants
04-18-2014, 05:00 PM
Thought so... I've tried that esc too & it's piss poor control for a ground vehicle.
An Mtronics Viper Marine 15 is one the best ever esc's I have ever used in my loader & all but one of my trks run them too. It works xllnt to control 4 wheel motors. Much finer control at a very low speed, you won't spin your wheels so easily which will give you better traction & a smoother push. ;)
http://www.strikemodels.com/products/speed-controllers/
ihbuilder
04-18-2014, 05:01 PM
Thought so... I've tried that esc too & it's piss poor control for a ground vehicle.
An Mtronics Viper Marine 15 is one the best ever esc's I have ever used in my loader & all but one of my trks run them too. It works xllnt to control 4 wheel motors. Much finer control at a very low speed, you won't spin your wheels so much so you'll have better traction & a smoother push. ;)
http://www.strikemodels.com/products/speed-controllers/
I'll get 1 then
tracksntreadslou
04-19-2014, 03:46 PM
This is awsome Steve.Nice addition to the fleet .definatley wont be having any tires issues with it ..I had one of the marine 15s in my 966 ..Like Joe said...I really liked the response and the thing worked flawlessley until i accidently had the trottle hold switch on when turned it on ..some how it cooked ..I just recentley purchased 2 marine 20s but havent tried them yet ..hopefully they will work as well ..prices are good
ihbuilder
04-19-2014, 04:51 PM
thanks Lou . I kinda got use to it towards the end of the show . It took me a bit to get use to grading with my eyes and not the seat of my pants :rolleyes: I'm going to have a dozer next year 1 way or another .
I asked Joe before but can't remember his answer . Will the Viper Marine 15 run all 4 motors ? or should I go with 2 (1/axle) or bump up to Viper Marine 40 ?
Lil Giants
04-19-2014, 07:34 PM
You'll be fine with one esc Steve. That's all I have ever run in my in Stahl loader for the last 10yrs. I use a 15 with no troubles... a 20 is little extra cost now, it didn't exist when I put that 15 in it yrs ago.
I use a 2x12 Sabertooth in my Stahl 6wd adt, with the mix off, one motor controller is for/rev & the 2nd esc runs the pump. 6 motors have never stalled that 12amp rating either.
ihbuilder
04-19-2014, 08:01 PM
Joe, have you run 11.1 lipo's on them ? thats all I've been using .
Lil Giants
04-19-2014, 08:25 PM
No, I have always run 10cell NiMH... the taller batt is a 4000mAh, a little bit extra weight & fits perfectly in the back of loader. The other batt is a 2700mAh.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%2014/002_zps523a2460.jpg
Espeefan
04-20-2014, 04:34 PM
Nice work, Steve. Looks like it pushes great, with those compactor wheels. Probably digs in better than most rubber tire machines!
modelman
04-21-2014, 02:36 PM
Interesting videos steve-I was wondering how this model would push since you don't have much area in contact with the ground. Looks like it works fine. I have watched a lot of video of the silver spade with a wheel dozer working underneath it and they never do any heavy pushing, just clean-up work,like you were doing with the dragline. Looks like a very successful and well handling machine.
ihbuilder
04-21-2014, 05:08 PM
Interesting videos steve-I was wondering how this model would push since you don't have much area in contact with the ground. Looks like it works fine. I have watched a lot of video of the silver spade with a wheel dozer working underneath it and they never do any heavy pushing, just clean-up work,like you were doing with the dragline. Looks like a very successful and well handling machine.
TY, Tom , that's what they're designed for . No heavy pushing , just knocking piles off in a fill . IE , dump truck dumps , compactor with blade spreads and compacts .
FlyingBeagle
04-22-2014, 04:03 PM
That is great, It makes short work of the piles thats for sure. I have had one of these on a project spreading and compacting lifts from the scrapers while constructing a rail yard. One machine kept up with 5 scrapers with no problem and we never had any issues getting our densities.
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