53ft van and reefer trailers

[1985 kenworth]

hello everyone ..well after a looooooooong search i finally found a fabricator local to me to make me some scale 53ft van trailer bodies and ribbed side reefer bodies too.these bad boys are @ 46" give or take ..i do know they are looooong .i will be building a custom ribbed side stainless reefer trailer for ZEUS ,something always wanted to do ,i have not decided whether to make it a spread axle or a tridem ,i will post the build thread here along with the building of these trailers.
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/Mobile%20Uploads/imagejpeg_5_1_zps3489fc6c.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/Mobile%20Uploads/imagejpeg_5_1_zps3489fc6c.jpg.html)
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/Mobile%20Uploads/imagejpeg_4_2-1_zpsba5c8ea4.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/Mobile%20Uploads/imagejpeg_4_2-1_zpsba5c8ea4.jpg.html)

[1985 kenworth]

i think i might go the way kingbob did and redo Optimus's trailer to scale also so i will post that too.:D

[mavrick0]

Can't wait to see what you build with these. This is one thing I wished someone made commercially or Tamiya would actually get out of the 70's and make something modern and the right size other then the 40' container to match the modern trucks.

[cabrover]

Looking good, now that's what I call scale!!:D This is gonna be KOOL!!:jump:

Tim

[flatdeck]

Looks good Dwayne



Wayne

[Stuff]

gonna be watching this one for sure

[BRICKNICK]

Dwayne are you gonna possibly sell one of them? My kw would look way better with a reefer instead of my flatbed.

[speedy8305]

hey Dwayne they could be used for Mac Smooth side dump trailer bodies as well

[1985 kenworth]

Not sure yet i am picking up the ribbed sides this weekend sunday. I want to assemble one of each to see how well they are cut
..so far the van trailer is pretty much bang on for fitting together should have some more updsted pics this weekend. I am very excited about these

[BRICKNICK]

I'm pretty excited about these as well, I hope they work out well. I would be interested in getting one, so if you sell them as well great if not I maybe contacting you to order me one from your machinist if that's kool. This is something I'm so surprised no one has mass produced or offers as a kit. I'm a reefer guy all day long but don't have one cause they aren't to easy to obtain and the tamiya van n reefer trailer are so so in looks in my opinion.

[Erick O]

Let me know if you will be selling any of those.

[Supermario]

Don't forget guys, Dwayne has enough trucks for all those trailers and then some! :D;):lol:

Mario

[1985 kenworth]

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/IMG_20140622_104310_zps157f4c40.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/IMG_20140622_104310_zps157f4c40.jpg.html)here are some updates on these trailers.this one is coming along pretty easy ,i installed the suspension and set it at 48ft and these are older pictures .since these pictures i have installed the landing gear and mudflap bracket and rear lights and put a paint job on it in white and installed the kingpin and the tamiya light cord actually fits these because they give you extra length as it is i will be uploading more photos later tonight.and btw i have my ribbed sides also to be able to build reefer trailers at a scale 53ft .the ribbed sides will need very little polishing to bring them to a mirror shine.and yes i will talk to my guy and see if i can get more made to sell .

[1985 kenworth]

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/2014-06-14_10-37-44_155_zps9b29c741.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/2014-06-14_10-37-44_155_zps9b29c741.jpg.html)
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[1985 kenworth]

here are the latest updates.this is what the ribbed sides look like that i got made and cut to size of scale 53ft .they are aluminum and shiney already ,they will take very little to polish to a mirror shine and here are some updates on the van trailer i am building to http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/010_zpsbd41992f.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/010_zpsbd41992f.jpg.html)
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/009_zps5e051ee3.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/009_zps5e051ee3.jpg.html)

[1985 kenworth]

here it is masked for paint...what a doughhead i am when i masked the trailer for to paint it white i taped the sides at the bottom instaed of the underside only and left a strip of the aluminum ,have to fix that
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/001_zps743afb42.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/001_zps743afb42.jpg.html)
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/002_zps293f1faf.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/002_zps293f1faf.jpg.html)
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/003_zps8abaf05c.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/003_zps8abaf05c.jpg.html)
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/004_zps783ad79c.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/004_zps783ad79c.jpg.html)will fix the paint and detail the trailer and this weekend at our show there will be some outdoor pics of the trailer and i will post them here .if the guy agrees to make more ,i will talk with the admins here and maybe start up a vendor spot to sell these trailers.The vans come as a raw one piece body with the front headboard and you have the roof and the floor panels and a rear set of doors cut to fit .you will need a tamiya trailer as a donor for the suspension ,landing gear and kingpin ..basically the whole trailer minus the body .there are no holes drilled for anything ,so you would have to do that yourself (basically build the trailer)like a kit .the reefer will have a headboard separate piece and 2 ribbed sides cut to 46" and it would come with floor and roof panels .you would have to do a little tweaking with the front corners (trim alittle off to fit perfect but other than that its pretty simple also it would come with a set of doors cut to fit .currently i have 6 van trailers and will be enough sides to make 12 reefers trailers.,again i will ask the gent about producing more and let everyone know ,and if not i might be willing to let a few of my stash go..lol...might

[thebat]

that looks sick man id love a scale length reefer trailer behind my king hauler keep us posted.

[Erick O]

I would be interested in a ribbed side one.

[mavrick0]

I think the way you painted it looks like a regular trailer with the natural aluminum rub rail. But all depends on the look you are going for. Either way looks good and can't wait to see it in person Saturday.

[Stuff]

looks great!

[Tea wrex]

I think for aesthetics it should be a euro setup on the rear axles. Or split axle! Just my thoughts based on how long they are. But great work man!

[1985 kenworth]

here it is hooked to allen(goose19) truck at our show last weekend ,still need to add reflective tape and lights to it will have some updated pics this week sometime as with updated pics of ZEUS'S stainless Great Dane reefer trailer:D
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/IMG_20140628_140514_zps40ea392f.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/IMG_20140628_140514_zps40ea392f.jpg.html)

[1985 kenworth]

here are some updates on both trailers
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/008_zps0c9dd5bd.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/008_zps0c9dd5bd.jpg.html)
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/2014-07-13_22-31-17_443_zpsc3fbca81.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/2014-07-13_22-31-17_443_zpsc3fbca81.jpg.html)
added the trailer lights(cord) the tamiya one looks to be ok for length .i taped it down and with the slack at the front i should be able to pull this trailer with one of my long wheelbase trucks
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/IMG_20140714_075202_zpsd9c4291a.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/IMG_20140714_075202_zpsd9c4291a.jpg.html)scratchbu ilt the rear bumper and starting to add the details like the reflective tape .still need to drill and paint and install the rear doors then this trailer will be finished
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/IMG_20140717_030332_zpsb8fadc47.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/IMG_20140717_030332_zpsb8fadc47.jpg.html)the roof is not attached yet but here is where it stands now

[1985 kenworth]

used the regular box trailer floor to work on the chassis frame for my stainless Great Dane reefer trailer for ZEUS.here i cut and reinforced the frame and added the airride suspension.and assembled the front headboard to the floor of the trailer and assembled the ribbed soon to be polished sides to the trailer,then i measured and installed the rear suspension to the chassis of the trailer and dry fitted the rear aluminum fenders and the custom rear aluminum trailer bumper from True Scale R-C and just took a few pics hooked to a truck .here are the pics hope you like them
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/2014-07-15_23-09-36_769_zps97452308.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/2014-07-15_23-09-36_769_zps97452308.jpg.html)
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[1985 kenworth]

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/2014-07-13_20-54-49_607_zpsb5305d5e.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/2014-07-13_20-54-49_607_zpsb5305d5e.jpg.html)
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/2014-07-13_12-07-36_206_zps40357f30.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/2014-07-13_12-07-36_206_zps40357f30.jpg.html)
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/IMG_20140714_075001_zpsd2a6903e.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/IMG_20140714_075001_zpsd2a6903e.jpg.html)primed and put a few coats of purple on the Thermo -King sb300 unit and measure to install on the headboard
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/2014-07-17_02-47-20_899_zps97dd1d30.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/2014-07-17_02-47-20_899_zps97dd1d30.jpg.html)
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/IMG_20140717_024257_zpse73b69eb.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/IMG_20140717_024257_zpse73b69eb.jpg.html)
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/IMG_20140717_024600_zpsea55d678.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/IMG_20140717_024600_zpsea55d678.jpg.html)
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/IMG_20140717_024525_zpsa28ad418.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/IMG_20140717_024525_zpsa28ad418.jpg.html)using temporary bolts and nuts until final assembly then i will be using the m3 with lock nuts

[1985 kenworth]

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/2014-07-17_02-48-43_238_zps3487aa8e.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/2014-07-17_02-48-43_238_zps3487aa8e.jpg.html)
more updates soon as i am nearing completion of both of them..thanks

[1985 kenworth]

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/2014-07-15_13-25-34_161_zpsdbb9bb92.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/2014-07-15_13-25-34_161_zpsdbb9bb92.jpg.html)got my order of custom mudflaps from xclusive .the purple danes are for well i think you guys know..:bounce:

[rc_farmer]

I love the trailer, any plans to have a few kits made.....also where did you get the thermo king unit?

[wolfws6]

The best thing about is it looks to scale!!! Awesome job!!!

[BRICKNICK]

Looking great Dwayne....I'm very intrigued.

[Radio Control Trucker]

Very nice Dwayne. I'm lovin' the builds.

- RCT

[1985 kenworth]

here are the final updates to my scale 53ft van trailer .just have to drill and tap the roof on the trailer but other than that it is pretty much finished ,now if you look at the trailer you will see a gap on the underside of the trailer and others have been saying it needs to be filled in when actually it doesn't.if you look at real trailers the only ones that have a full frame on them are 4 and 5 axle flatbed trailers or the container chassis but the regular van trailers have the rear suspension ..which slides and the landing gear only so here are the updated pics of this trailer complete with Wabash decals and a few roof patches because of my rookie forklift driver,who put the mast through the roof of this brand new trailer.i did not fire him behttp://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/IMG_20140719_090358_zps26aea8eb.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/IMG_20140719_090358_zps26aea8eb.jpg.html)cause...w ell it was me..lol
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/IMG_20140719_084145_zps188ee9a3.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/IMG_20140719_084145_zps188ee9a3.jpg.html)also added the body rub rail for those drivers that can not back beside you without rubbing the trailers
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/2014-07-19_20-04-01_468_zps79e4846b.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/2014-07-19_20-04-01_468_zps79e4846b.jpg.html)
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[1985 kenworth]

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[1985 kenworth]

i got some new ones made to the right scale in height and i will be picking them up soon they are around 8" high and the actual height of the real trailer box is 9' 6" and measured from the ground up they are allowed a maximum height of 13' 6'' high and i calculated it and that would make the scale height of these trailers 8.1 inches high and the new ones coming are right around that mark:)

[kingbob]

How did i miss this??

Love the one piece folded sheet fpr the sides and front! Makes it look so clean!

I finished my 53 footer for Optimus yesterday, came in at 1150mm long, not including reefer. The side panels i used were actually stainless steel, i couldnt find the ribbed pattern in aluminium. Its made by Rimex metals, should be available in the US.

I worked the sizing out pretty much the same:
1:1
53' long
13'6" overall tall
110" inside height
102" wide

In 1/14
1153mm (not including reefer)
293mm tall total
199.5mm tall interior (box)
185mm wide

They're the measurements my trailer is built on. I did lower the trailer a bit as well to get the wheels closer to the frame for a more scale appearance. Basically re-drilled all the suspension mounting holes 10 or 15mm higher.

[1985 kenworth]

got the first coat of paint on the suspension for Zeus's Great Dane Stainless Reefer trailer.i will bare metal foil the side grill's on the reefer unit like i did for Optimus Prime Trailer
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/003_zpsd4ab2146.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/003_zpsd4ab2146.jpg.html)
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[JoseFL10-4]

Good great, where u find the reefer unit?

[Stuff]

looking real real good!

[1985 kenworth]

been awhile but i have some updates on Zeus's Great Dane Stainless trailer

[1985 kenworth]

polished the trailer bumper and installed the ZEUS nameplate which will be lit up with l.e.d.s. and installed the lenses going with the black bezels
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/IMG_20140914_000623_zps00f3ecad.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/IMG_20140914_000623_zps00f3ecad.jpg.html)
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/IMG_20140914_001141_zpsaa5493a1.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/IMG_20140914_001141_zpsaa5493a1.jpg.html)
also i repainted the suspension frame and reinstalled the suspension and i installed the awesome polished fenders i got from Wayne (Flatdeck) and installed them on an angle so i can use the full custom mudflaps i got made from Brian from Exclusive .instead of trimming them to fit the fenders
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/2014-09-15_17-12-49_455_zps5f97be71.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/2014-09-15_17-12-49_455_zps5f97be71.jpg.html)
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[1985 kenworth]

just waiting for the second batch of reefer panels to come in at the proper 8"high and the 46" long then i can finish this trailer off ..more updates soon

[1985 kenworth]

trailer is 90% complete still have more details to add to this but here are some updated pictures of ZEUS's Great Dane Stainless Reefer Trailer
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/037_zpsb3b589b5.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/037_zpsb3b589b5.jpg.html)
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[1985 kenworth]

http://youtu.be/JvLULXzho-k



here is a little feature i added to this trailer.i put signals in the middle on the side of the trailer just like the real ones

[PaulNZ]

Looking Good Dwayne!

[petermoblin]

Oh Man!! Killer looking combo.

[kaptain Jack]

Mean looking set.

[BRICKNICK]

Wow Dwayne the truck looks sick man. Those trailers are so nice. I gotta get one for sure.

[Goodwin3224]

Great looking trailers!

[sneff]

Wow thats amazing!! Would love to get my hands on one!! You offer local pickup?? Im not very far away.

[sandfarmer]

Those are great looking vans, I like the scale look, especially of the yellow day cab with buds. Buds on the trailer would be pretty cool to mimic the everyday rig going down the road. Sweet setup!

[JoseFL10-4]

Beautiful, great work, trailers looks very nice

[1985 kenworth]

finally got some time to update my builds on here .got my set of 8 hole aluminum bud wheels from Steve that match ZEUS for Zeus's trailer .just need to find the time to light it up with my purple l.e.d.s....lol
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http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j436/1985kenworth/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141108_224803_zpsd6ea6933.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/1985kenworth/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141108_224803_zpsd6ea6933.jpg.html)

[fireguard62b]

Where did you get the ribbed sides from as I would love to build the BJ trailer?

[rc_farmer]

Thats is a nice trailer Dewayne! Great setup on both

[jack van]

i would love to have a refer unit that would keep my budwiesers cold lol

[Snowman3725]

Finally a true scaled trailer

[gismow]

Hi Dwayne,

can you please tell me the distance between the axles? I'd like to build a spread axle flatbed and I don't know the difference in between.

Thanx... ;)

[126happy]

hey gismow, I don't know what Dwayne used for getting the distance but what I did was set another set of wheels in between them like it was a 3 tandem axle (with normal spacing/gap). when I remove the middle tires... well wahla there ya go... here my redone spread axle set up. hope it helps ya.
ALSO ILL GO OUT AND TAKE A MEASUREMENT PIC OF IT FOR YOU SO YOU CAN SEE IT.
Its stormin like **** here north of tampa fl right now so give me a minute to get out to my shop. lol

http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/126happy/INSANE%2078%20INCH%20TAMIYA%20TRACTOR%20TRAILER%20 BUILD/20150731_173901_zpscp15ze4l.jpg (http://s820.photobucket.com/user/126happy/media/INSANE%2078%20INCH%20TAMIYA%20TRACTOR%20TRAILER%20 BUILD/20150731_173901_zpscp15ze4l.jpg.html)

[gismow]

Hi Dwayne,

many thanx, but please stay inside when it's stormy. ;)

I can start with the planning earliest next week, so there is time enough to wait for sunny periods... :D

[126happy]

HEY GISMOW... MY SPREAD IS 8" AXLE TO AXLE.
BUT I don't like hijacking other ppl's posts so if you don't mind want to see more pics of mine please go to my build post.. ok.
I posted the pics my post... its called "INSANE 1ST BUILD"

hey Dwayne... sry for postin on your thread man I meant no harm brother.