Liebherr 574

[RCP57]

I know these have been done by a lot of different people so there isn't really anything earth shattering going on here but I thought I would post what I did anyway. Maybe something is done differently and it will help someone out and if not it will provide a hand full of pictures to look at.

I asked my wife for one of these for Christmas. Like the good little woman that she is, she made sure that there was one under the tree for me Christmas morning:bounce::bounce:.... I also asked for a new YZ250 MX bike but she didn't buy me that:(:rolleyes:...

Anyway, I spent a few hours staring at it Christmas day, took it apart on Boxing day and then worked my a$$ off the last two days to get it nearly complete. My mode of thinking here was to try and keep it as stock looking as possible through the conversion and add some metal parts as needed later on. I did order up some cheap crawler tires yesterday and had no intention of trying to use the stock tires but I wanted to see it move. Those who know me well, know that once I'm "feeling it" I have a hard time stopping for anything until it is finished. This is what happened here and if I wasn't short an actuator and had the right ratio gear motors in hand this thing would be complete! It is however, up and running and fully functional as is. When I get the parts I need I will clamp the motors into their tubes and everything will get painted to match the rest of the machine as needed.

Being a hoarder, I of course used some parts from my stash. For instance, the tubes that hold the motors are stainless steel pieces from old solar yard lights. They are very thin but also very strong. Using them allowed me to retain some of the plastic diff housing on either end. I also mounted the steering servo in the front and modified the stock Bruder "steering rams" to be used as the push/pull rods. I think doing this kept it looking unmodified in that area. I also spent about two hours yesterday machining a "fancy" bracket to hold the lift cylinders to the boom. It was a bit of a pain to get the positioning just right but I think it works good and there aren't too many extra holes from screwing up.

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[RCP57]

I used 3 Hobby King ESC's to run everything in order to keep the cost low. They seem to work fine and fit in quite nicely.

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I modified the rear grill so that battery swaps go through the back instead of out the top. Once I got to this point I was supposed to stop and wait for the new tires to arrive in a couple of weeks...I couldn't help myself...

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I haven't filmed a video yet but I will in a couple of days. That's all for now. If anyone has any questions, I will try to answer.

Thanks for looking!

Reg

[Nhrafan]

Looks good Reg !!!! Really clean conversion . By the way I asked for a 69 Camaro for Christmas , and you guessed still waiting lol !!!!

[Supermario]

You definitely made quick work of this one Reg. Looks great so far. One question. Did you manage to maintain a rear axle pivot ? It looks like it's mounted solid?

[RCP57]

Looks good Reg !!!! Really clean conversion . By the way I asked for a 69 Camaro for Christmas , and you guessed still waiting lol !!!!

Birthday coming up perhaps Keith?lol


You definitely made quick work of this one Reg. Looks great so far. One question. Did you manage to maintain a rear axle pivot ? It looks like it's mounted solid?

Thanks Mario. Yes, the rear articulates exactly the same amount as stock.

[djcrabtree]

Very nice and clean conversion. I hope to have the patience and skill set to do something like this one day.

[RCP57]

Articulation shots...

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[cabs]

awesome Reg

[RCP57]

This one is for you Mario! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCQMj6Hq2kc

[Cooper]

1) really?
2) a couple days!!!
3) you should have been on of them fancy engineegers
4) looks great!
5) parts look to be made for that (esc, actuators ect)
6) printer is cheeper than a yz
7) king of conversions
9) nice parts for manual milling.!!
10) are those actuators just rebranded for RCP ?

Ten things of after Christmas!!

[RCTech9]

Great work as always!

[RCP57]

1) really?
2) a couple days!!!
3) you should have been on of them fancy engineegers
4) looks great!
5) parts look to be made for that (esc, actuators ect)
6) printer is cheeper than a yz
7) king of conversions
9) nice parts for manual milling.!!
10) are those actuators just rebranded for RCP ?

Ten things of after Christmas!!

1) Yes, really
2) Yes, I started yesterday morning. All together it took about 16-18 hours
3) Possibly...
4) Thanks!
5) They fit surprisingly well
6) True, but can't I have both?
7) I wouldn't go that far
9) I did something right for once
10) Unfortunately no

It should also be noted that number 8 was missing from your list...lol:p

[liftmys10]

Looks great! Nice job on the speedy conversion.

[Azonic]

Must say that was one smooth conversion, well done!

Great that it does wheelies, when you need to impress the womans! :)

[fireguard62b]

What size actuators did you use? And it looks great.

Now to build my one up to one of our military loaders.

[bigford]

you ever stop?? geez!!!

[RCP57]

Looks great! Nice job on the speedy conversion.

Thanks, it went together much easier than I thought it would.

Must say that was one smooth conversion, well done!

Great that it does wheelies, when you need to impress the womans! :)

Haha! When my wife came home from work she was excited to see it finished. I showed her how it all worked and popped a wheelie. She asked if she could try and I started explaining how all the functions worked. She said "so I go backwards and then go forwards quickly to do a wheelie?" ....apparently she wasn't planning on loading dirt with it...haha!

What size actuators did you use? And it looks great.

Now to build my one up to one of our military loaders.

1, 30mm and 2, 50mm will do the trick.

you ever stop?? geez!!!

Um, no...:D

[Mikem]

I think all f Regs speed is connected to his work bench , from first laying out his logging truck to numerous other projects I see his bench of choice is his tailgate . So since I don't have a garage big enough to hold my pick up truck ,I decided to bring my tailgate downstairs , I think this will improve my modelling standards . And as a side note since I will need my tailgate my bench will remain uncluttered . Mike

[Cooper]

http://youtu.be/CgX_o981HkA
Oops , #8

Lol!! Some competition for u, or a learning guide.

[Kaf343]

Another awesome conversion Reg, looks great.

[Exclusive RC]

2 thumbs up!

[thebigo]

Great rig Reg, Looks like your haven fun, and thats what counts.

David

[Stuart]

Cracking job Reg!
Why 3x esc's? are 2 for the actuators and 1 for the wheel motors?

[Themonty73]

Wow excellent job,

Can you post some videos of it working once all parts are present, how much do you think it will lift?

:bounce:

[Snochaser]

Nice job Reg.......as usual. I may have to take a stab at one.

[chaseracer]

Great job reg, if you weren't one of my best friends I would hate you for making this look so easy lol.. I think I will be bringing my 574 for you to do instead of me hacking mine up on my dining room table where I have no tools or skills lol ... Again great job

[RCP57]

I think all f Regs speed is connected to his work bench , from first laying out his logging truck to numerous other projects I see his bench of choice is his tailgate . So since I don't have a garage big enough to hold my pick up truck ,I decided to bring my tailgate downstairs , I think this will improve my modelling standards . And as a side note since I will need my tailgate my bench will remain uncluttered . Mike

Yes the tailgate works great! It's the only space that isn't a foot deep in $h!t all the time! I never get too much stuff stacked on there because I may need to leave in a hurry for some reason. All of my benches are cluttered because I'm a hoarder.;)

http://youtu.be/CgX_o981HkA
Oops , #8

Lol!! Some competition for u, or a learning guide.

I see broken Bruder parts in my future...lol

Another awesome conversion Reg, looks great.

2 thumbs up!

Great rig Reg, Looks like your haven fun, and thats what counts.

David

Thanks guys!

Cracking job Reg!
Why 3x esc's? are 2 for the actuators and 1 for the wheel motors?

Thanks Stuart! Yes that's right.

Wow excellent job,

Can you post some videos of it working once all parts are present, how much do you think it will lift?

:bounce:

Thanks, will do. I'm not sure how much it will lift but I think more than the plastic will stand before breaking.

Nice job Reg.......as usual. I may have to take a stab at one.

It was much easier than I thought it would be Ben. I say go for it!

Great job reg, if you weren't one of my best friends I would hate you for making this look so easy lol.. I think I will be bringing my 574 for you to do instead of me hacking mine up on my dining room table where I have no tools or skills lol ... Again great job

Thanks Jason. It makes a difference to have the space and tools for sure. You're not lacking in the skills department so you just need to work on the first two!lol

OK, remember how I basically said in the beginning that I was going to leave it plastic and add aluminum parts as needed? Well forget I said that because I have already started making parts and I haven't done anythng other than pull a few wheelies with it so far.:D:cool:

No, I don't have 3 loaders...Anyone need one of these? Yes, I am aware that I have a problem...

I was proud of myself for being able to make this shape without throwing a tantrum or wasting material.

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The easy part is done. Now I have to make the mounts. Once those are done I plan to add a few more details.

Thanks for looking.

[fireguard62b]

Well an aluminium bucket would be great if your selling them, also it would be a way of adding an attachment mechanism on, as I wish to have the ability to load a set of tynes to use as a fork loader for moving containers and pallets around on rough surfaces.

[Exclusive RC]

Gorgeous job on the buckets brother!

[RCP57]

Thanks men! I made a little more progress on the buckets today. Here's a few pictures to show one mounted on the machine and a video will follow eventually of it in action. The buckets are bigger than the stock one. I widened them about 1/2" because it seems like most of the conversions end up with a wider wheel track. The are also a little deeper because of the curved front and have height added to keep dirt from going over the back. I still want to add more detail before I call them done but I think the are coming together nicely. They are also a good bit stronger than stock!

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Test video should be up shortly!

Reg

[bigford]

quit screwing around on the small stuff and bust out a d11 or at least a cat 980!!!
that bucket is looking sweet

[RCP57]

quit screwing around on the small stuff and bust out a d11 or at least a cat 980!!!
that bucket is looking sweet

Haha, when I get caught up on my current "to do" list, I will attempt a Bruder D10 or D11, whatever they call that. I have to scratch build a truck first though...

[fireguard62b]

So will you be selling the buckets? They are sweet.

[bigford]

Haha, when I get caught up on my current "to do" list, I will attempt a Bruder D10 or D11, whatever they call that. I have to scratch build a truck first though...

your killing me:cop:

[RCP57]

So will you be selling the buckets? They are sweet.

I will sell the two extra ones when they are finished. I'm not sure if I will build more later.


your killing me:cop:

Haha, its not on purpose.

[justin]

Looking good reg keep up the good work

[rockNmayhem]

Hey Reg, by chance can you tell us what ratio of actuators you are using? I'd like to do the same type of conversion I'm just not sure what ratio I need to get for decent speed and power.

Thanks

[Barker196]

I almost don't even like to look at your builds because they put mine to shame haha amazing work!

[bigpipespete]

Another sweet conversion Reg. Happy New year to you .

[RCP57]

Looking good reg keep up the good work

Thanks Justin!

Hey Reg, by chance can you tell us what ratio of actuators you are using? I'd like to do the same type of conversion I'm just not sure what ratio I need to get for decent speed and power.

Thanks

I'm using 210:1 on the boom and 100:1 on the bucket. Both are 6v.

I almost don't even like to look at your builds because they put mine to shame haha amazing work!

Thanks very much. I'm sure your work is just fine!

Another sweet conversion Reg. Happy New year to you .

Happy New Year to you as well Mike.


Well, I think the buckets are nearly finished. I welded on all the mounts and gave them all a test fit.

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[Exclusive RC]

Cant wait to get mine and put her on my baby!

[fireguard62b]

Wow fantastic work there

[Lil Giants]

I wish I had your ambition, sucks getting old(er) & slower. :o Somehow the whole day went by and all I got accomplished was a hyd tank from brass. :eek:

[Kaf343]

Reg, I've said it before, you are the master of aluminum work. Just incredible! Beautiful work.

[daddycool75]

Hi,

I was looking about the on Magom HRC and found this,

http://www.magomhrc.com/en/bruder-liebherr-574-116-metal-parts/397-l574-complete-frame-geared-motors-wheels.html

it works out at about $710.00

Cheers

jamie

[RCP57]

Cant wait to get mine and put her on my baby!

I can't wait to see it on there painted up! They are just about ready to go...

Wow fantastic work there

Thanks!

I wish I had your ambition, sucks getting old(er) & slower. :o Somehow the whole day went by and all I got accomplished was a hyd tank from brass. :eek:

I don't know if it's ambition or obsession? I've lost my sense of direction a bit lately with this Bruder stuff but just can't stop building stuff!

Reg, I've said it before, you are the master of aluminum work. Just incredible! Beautiful work.

Thanks Keith. I hope you like it when it arrives!

Hi,

I was looking about the on Magom HRC and found this,

http://www.magomhrc.com/en/bruder-liebherr-574-116-metal-parts/397-l574-complete-frame-geared-motors-wheels.html

it works out at about $710.00

Cheers

jamie

Yes, I have looked at that. It's a great deal really. I don't know how they are making much money off of that at $750US. I guess they sell a lot of them and make money that way. I like to build my own parts and lucky for me, some people like what I do and are willing to pay a bit more to have something that no one else has:D.

[Jared]

Watch, this this is going to be more aluminum than plastic when it's all over. Great work!

[RCP57]

Watch, this this is going to be more aluminum than plastic when it's all over. Great work!

I hope not but stranger things have happened around here:rolleyes:.

I was working in the shop most of the day but when I got frustrated with something, I decided to take a break and bust out the speed loader. She's a tire fryer for sure but it actually works pretty good. The ground I'm digging in the video is really heavy from all the rain we have been having and yet it still gets a half bucket or so in one scoop. Hopefully adding rubber tires will help with traction a little but not add too much. I would rather it spin than break!

http://youtu.be/3NASWsVZDDs

[Exclusive RC]

looks exactly like mine did when i first completed the conversion... I have no doubt in my mind once you add weight and rubber to it, she will work flawlessly..... mine weighs a little over 10 pounds now and traction is def not an issue.... keep the pics and mods coming bud..

[blitzk]

Unbelievable job Reg!!! The bucket looks great as does the whole loader. I was just wondering if you could tell me what kind ESC's you used (Amps?) and what kind drive motors were used.

[RCP57]

These are the ESC's that I used. Very cheap and do the job just fine. There may be better deals out there but I was happy enough with them. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__43377__HobbyKing_X_Car_45A_Brushed_Car_ESC_US_Wa rehouse_.html

I used 25mm gear motors. I have 133rpm motors installed it now but only because I had them for something else. Of course they were stolen from project A to complete project B:rolleyes:. I will put lower geared motors in this soon but I won't go with really low geared ones because they don't stand up even though the speed would be better. These motors are definitely too fast but will stall under load. The lower geared units often strip gears before they will stall which is no fun.

Hope that helps:D.

[blitzk]

Yes that certainly helps. Thank you very much, Reg. I'm kind of a pack rat myself so I'm hoping to get the majority of components off my junk pile but I will need to buy a few things. P.S. Still saving for one of those awesome dumps you build. Thanks again for all your help.

[littleiron]

where did you get the motors? Can't seem to find them in hobbyking

[RCP57]

I bought the motors from Robot Shop some time ago but I get them from eBay now because they offer more choices in ratios. I think Hobby King had some in their robotics section but they where fairly high speed from what I remember.

[littleiron]

Thanks trying to get all the parts together to try a rebuild when my 574 comes

[RCP57]

Had the speed loader out for a rip this afternoon... This thing is crazy fast but it actually makes it more fun I think:D.
http://youtu.be/An90wxrdaVk

[Kaf343]

Very cool Reg, gets the job done quick that's for sure. Nice work.

[K-Man]

This website has many geared motors with different voltage solutions and revolution per minutes and it offers free shipping to US. I've bought from them on a couple of occasions and it takes about 3 weeks or less for stuff (if in stock) to get to an US address.

http://www.dx.com/s/geared+motor

[RCP57]

I've been waiting on some cheap 1.9" crawler tires since just after Xmas. Yesterday after nearly 5 weeks they showed up so today I took a "me day" in the shop and fit them to the loader. So far I am fairly happy with them considering they were $16CAD for all four delivered to my door. The rims started out as 2 1/4" round stock. All together they add almost 2lbs to the weight of the machine. For now I have swapped out the original foams for some out of 2.2" tires. They are way oversize so even though they are soft it still firms up the tires a fair bit. Eventually I will make new foams if need be. The loader runs much nicer on the shop floor and it removes a little more of the "plastic feel" from the machine. I haven't done an outdoor test yet but I'm sure they will be fine....

Almost time for some paint!

http://youtu.be/5fhjLTitjOs

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[Cooper]

Looks good, some traction on them sneakers!! Nice work on the rims!!

[Exclusive RC]

Excellent Job Reg, You Loader is taking shape very nicely, I like your attention to detail!

[RCP57]

Thanks guys. It makes the machine look bigger to me:confused:. They don't look as scale as the Mil Spec tires but I don't think they look too bad and the price was right. They are really soft too so traction should be very good. I was concerned that they would get too much bite on the shop floor and not steer but they actually turn better than the stock tires. It even has a little realistic bounce to it now! Pouring down rain here today so no outside tests yet I guess:(.

Brian, did you get the bucket on yours yet?

[Exclusive RC]

Thanks guys. It makes the machine look bigger to me:confused:. They don't look as scale as the Mil Spec tires but I don't think they look too bad and the price was right. They are really soft too so traction should be very good. I was concerned that they would get too much bite on the shop floor and not steer but they actually turn better than the stock tires. It even has a little realistic bounce to it now! Pouring down rain here today so no outside tests yet I guess:(.

Brian, did you get the bucket on yours yet?

Yes sir I did thank you, its a great piece of Art, you sell yourself short when you say your not a master, because in my eyes you have succeeded in doing things to aluminum only a few ppl can do. You have my vote! Ill post pics when im done making all the modifications to it.

[Kaf343]

Looks great Reg, can't wait to see a video of it running. Superb!!

[gauthib12]

Wow looks great! question: where did you get the nice tires for $16!

Thanks

[RCP57]

Yes sir I did thank you, its a great piece of Art, you sell yourself short when you say your not a master, because in my eyes you have succeeded in doing things to aluminum only a few ppl can do. You have my vote! Ill post pics when im done making all the modifications to it.

Thanks Brian. I'm glad you like the bucket! I appreciate the boost in confidence also. My expectations for myself are very high so I am always wishing I had done something a little bit differently. I think I need to seek professional help:thinking:


Looks great Reg, can't wait to see a video of it running. Superb!!

Thanks Keith! Hoping to see some of yours in action soon as well!

Wow looks great! question: where did you get the nice tires for $16!

Thanks

I bought them on eBay. Just searched 1.9 crawler tires and found them. I think they were around $14 US with free shipping. Really happy with the quality for the price. There were also ones available with rims for not much more but I wanted to make my own. Goes to show how much money RC4WD is making off of us!:jaw:

[RCP57]

Tired loading some dirt this evening with the new tires. I have been drying some gravel in the shop for weeks and it was pouring outside so I made this haywire little deal in the back of my pickup. Fun for the loader, boring for the Hayes. The loader works great with the new tires and wheels. It does steer a little harder with a bucket of dirt but once it's rolling slightly it works great! For a conversion I really enjoy playing with this.

http://youtu.be/AojobRY4aDc

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[JAMMER]

Very nice job Reg but as all thr rest it lacks reach to get over the sides of the box and dump and come back with out hitting the box. You had to have a ramp like all the rest. Ed

[RCP57]

Yeah the difference in scale doesn't work in their favor that's for sure. Oh well, it is what it is.

[Supermario]

I'm confused? My loader clears the box with no ramp at all. With full up and bucket dumped I can still just clear the box edge. I've got no cheater boards on my truck but surprised to see you need such a ramp.
It must be my hyd cylinders have more range than the firgelli actuators ?

[RCP57]

I'm confused? My loader clears the box with no ramp at all. With full up and bucket dumped I can still just clear the box edge. I've got no cheater boards on my truck but surprised to see you need such a ramp.
It must be my hyd cylinders have more range than the firgelli actuators ?

Yes, I believe yours lifts a bit higher than mine. It will load my KH OK with no side boards but the Hayes box is quite a bit taller. The truck itself is also taller by almost 1/4" because of the reworked suspension. The way I have the actuators mounted is great for power but not for stroke. It won't sit the bucket flat on the ground either but I was determined not to cut the loader anymore than necessary. I definitely don't need to have that large of a ramp but it was built for something else and does the trick temporarily.

[Cooper]

Looks good reg, good job on the wheels /tires.

[RCP57]

The weather has been absolutely gorgeous here the last three days so I threw some paint at the wheels and bucket this morning. I have some slower gear motors coming so it may have to come apart soon for that but otherwise I consider this to be done:D!

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Thanks for looking!

[Supermario]

The loader looks great Reg! But do me a favour and get rid of that awful, ugly plastic exhaust stack!:cop::lol:

FYI. If you have a stock Tamiya exhaust tip laying around, they fit nicely over top the plastic one.:)

http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r620/Kinghauler2012/image3-2_zps0b69a1b4.jpeg

[TRUCKMAKER]

Reg, the loader turned out great! Now let's see you scrape the paint back off the bucket:D:D

[RCP57]

While I am still holding out on Mario's exhaust request I did finally receive my order from China that contained the new slower gear motors for this today. After work I made the swap and was very pleased with the results! I went from 133rpm to 77rpm and I think it is the perfect speed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwjXxvAhVs&list=UUrzqEOj31tJ-DusnO8Onw7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLvV9J8-r_0&list=UUrzqEOj31tJ-DusnO8Onw7A

[Supermario]

It's your loader Reg, do to it what you wish:D
Just giving a heads up on another spot for metal rather than plastic. :lol:
The new motors definitely have a much better speed and I can see why you like this build, it works pretty darn good! :cool:

[RCP57]

It's your loader Reg, do to it what you wish:D
Just giving a heads up on another spot for metal rather than plastic. :lol:
The new motors definitely have a much better speed and I can see why you like this build, it works pretty darn good! :cool:

I didn't wish to break it but I just did....:( Bucket curl actuator gave up the ghost. It stopped working if run all the way in at first and then died completely shortly afterwards. I think maybe the circuit board/limiter thingy burnt out??? I guess I am no longer using this until I can visit with Ian and buy a replacement.:(

Your "tip":rolleyes: to change out the exhaust is a good one Mario. I just haven't made up the piece yet. I wish the whole thing was metal... If I had more time for my own projects it would be having an all metal cousin sitting next to it in the very near future. I still enjoy running the hoe more but the wheel loader is a blast too! I just wish it was a touch more industrial...

[kaptain Jack]

Hi Reg. Love the build and decided to try as well. How ever cant take the wheels off...
Help?

[RCP57]

Cool! I cut the axles in half and stuck the stub in the drill holding the tire in my hand. Creates a little heat and pulls right apart. I tried to do it by hand but couldn't get them to budge. Hope that makes sense and helps.

[kaptain Jack]

Makes perfect sense. Thank you.

[gauthib12]

Hi Reg,

Are you able to let me know a bit more details on the motors you used? i.e rpm, torque, price, where did you get em? I was looking on the dx.com website..there are some good deals, but having a hard time to decide..I am assuming you have all 4 controlled by a single esc...any advice would be appreciated...thanks!

Blair

[RCP57]

Hey Blair, I bought the motors off of eBay but I have also bought them off of Amazon and from Robot Shop. These last ones from eBay look exactly like the rest but have different motors(windings I guess). I forget the numbers off the top of my head but lets just say the normal motors I use are a something, something S and the new motors are just something, something. Needless to say they do not have the same power even though they look identical. They do however seem to have an adequate amount for this particular model though, I just would have liked more.lol Anyway, what I am running are 25mm diameter, 77rpm, 6 volt motors. I can dig up a link to the ones I purchased if you like. So many sellers have the same or nearly the same stuff for sale. I bought these last ones because they were under $10 a piece and had free shipping. I won't buy them again but they are doing the job. I also have the same type in my Bruder Mack but use 133rpm ratio. Hope this rambling helps...

Reg

[gauthib12]

Hey Reg, thanks for the info I seen allot of good deals too for under $10, just got to pick one! lol.

Cheers!

[RCP57]

OK so this one is for you Mario! One hand crafted, TIG welded, stainless steel exhaust tip to replace the repulsive, ugly, plastic, Gonzo nosed factory piece on my loader.lol

Bo's size reference pic

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After welding it up I turned down a piece of dowel to suit.

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Then finally the new pipe attached

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[bigford]

nice beaver

[Bo Wallen]

nice beaver
Shine Beaver :eek:

[Supermario]

You only made one?:confused::eek::lol:

Looks much, much better than the gonzo version. :)

[RCP57]

You only made one?:confused::eek::lol:

Looks much, much better than the gonzo version. :)

Is that a hint?

[RCP57]

I was also playing with this afterwards... It has some bugs but they are only slightly annoying...:rolleyes:

https://youtu.be/YGBbyPXwa_I

[doodlebug]

Reg, you need a diode in the lead of the beeper. To make it quieter, put a band aid over it!
Cheers!

[RCP57]

Reg, you need a diode in the lead of the beeper. To make it quieter, put a band aid over it!
Cheers!

I tried a diode on either end facing either way and it would either make it not work at all or do the same as in the video. I'm not sure what I was doing wrong? Maybe a different diode? It's gotta work somehow Neil!

[RCP57]

:update: https://youtu.be/ebd_ZFI8ats

[doodlebug]

Reg, I think you needed a higher voltage rating on the diode,
Here's a short page on them, http://www.ehow.com/how_7433946_choose-right-diode.html
Your new setup works great!
Cheers!

[Cre8rc]

Nice work on the Bruder, I am in the midst of ordering parts to convert mine. I like your idea for the motors because I too am somewhat of a hoarder of small items and have some old stainless steel solar light tubes.

My question to you is how did you fasten the motors in the tubes so they don't spin in the tubes under torque?

[RCP57]

Thanks. The tubes are split to fit over the motors and I just used electrical tape the close it up tight. On the rollers I converted recently, I used the same setup but instead of tape I used some really heavy shrink tube. Either way seems to hold the motors fine with no slippage.

[Cre8rc]

Perfect.. Thanks for the help.

[Cat966c]

If you don't mind me asking. What actuators are those? How do the esc's hook up to the actuators and motors, and also what controller/receiver/transmitter are you using?

[RCP57]

If you don't mind me asking. What actuators are those? How do the esc's hook up to the actuators and motors, and also what controller/receiver/transmitter are you using?

Firgelli actuators. They are L12S 6V. 2-50mm and 1-30mm. Most guys use the L16 actuators because they are stronger. They are also a bit bigger on the motor end and 12V only which I didn't like. They hook up just like any brushed motor. I'm using a DX6i and an Orange RX receiver on this one. ESC's are the cheap ones from Hobbyking. They work perfect for under 9V and they are just over $10US.

[jdwtrans]

Hi, just wondered how you make the teeth for the bucket ? :confused:

[RCP57]

Hi, just wondered how you make the teeth for the bucket ? :confused:

I just held them in the vice on my mill and manually machined them. It took a while.lol

[jdwtrans]

hmmm thats what i got to look forward to next then, i have to go to my fathers tomorrow to use his mill.:eek:

[RCP57]

It's not so bad when you are just doing it for yourself. I have had a few requests to make these buckets again but it really isn't cost effective for me or the customer when I am hand machining each tooth.lol It's much cheaper to buy a mass produced bucket from Magom HRC or do what you are doing and make your own. I would need to charge $250+ for a bucket and no one will want to pay that because there are cheaper alternatives.

Keep up the great work on your conversion!

[rc_nut]

Hi there,
I hope it is ok to post as form old from 2011.
What a great build. Iam going to do the same. I realise someone already asked the question. But iam looking at the Actuators but cant seem to find those ones can you please direct me to the site that you bought from. I found this site http://www.firgelli.com/L12_R_Linear_Servo_For_Radio_Control_p/l12-r.htm but can't find those sizes you stated. Greatly appreciated Brina

[RCP57]

I'm using the non RC type. L12-S http://www.firgelli.com/L12_S_Micro_Linear_Actuator_with_Limit_Switches_p/l12-s.htm

[rc_nut]

Hi RCP57, thanks heaps for that. For a wonder what stroke and ratio would you recommend and how many will i need.Thanks Brian

[Kausekaos]

Nice Reg, just looked through this thread

[RCP57]

Thanks Calvin. It is one of my favorite toys.

[Kausekaos]

Made a offer on a carson track loader. Guy said he'll get back to me, if he doesn't take it I'm going to get the new Magom all metal 574 wheel loader.

[Rvjimd]

Reg,

I had to go thru the entire thread again, really nice job! Love the rims and the bucket!

Question for you, did you consider separating the left and right side motors and adding a mix on the steering to control wheel spin? Wonder if anyone has done it that way? Would it add anything to the maneuverability or traction when pushing into a pile?

Thanks for all the info!

Jim

[SteinHDan]

Reg,
Question for you, did you consider separating the left and right side motors and adding a mix on the steering to control wheel spin? Wonder if anyone has done it that way? Would it add anything to the maneuverability or traction when pushing into a pile?


Funny you should mention it. I've actually got planned to try to do a super-minimal Liebherr 574 conversion where I'll try to not use a swing servo at all, just use mixing on the left and right side motors. And then flip the left/right motors on the front wheels compared to the back wheels. Of course, it won't work very well if any wheel lifts off the ground, but if the traction was good on all wheels, it would be ok, maybe. Can't know before it has been tested! ;-) I can always add a swing servo later if it doesn't work at all.

Also I was planning on testing out the new P16 actuators from Firgelli:
- http://www.actuonix.com/P16_Actuators_s/1861.htm


Stein :-)