First build ,cat D11

[Cooper]

Thanks for the info, I know what you mean with the heat. I think a big problem I was having was I had it mounted to a vise and vice grips holding another piece of aluminum for a bit of a jig. I think it was robbing too much of the heat and me not getting it hot enough like you said. I'm using mapp gas but the torch tip is like three little tips, doesn't really localize the heat. Once I get use to this stuff I definitely think it will be a asset in the building options.

[sparkycuda]

Good point about the heat-sinking effect you get with vises and pliers holding the parts. I forgot to mention that I switched to paper-binder spring clips to hold things. They don't soak up much heat, are cheap, available in many sizes, and can be tossed when heat removes all the spring tension from them.

Good luck!

Ken