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modelman
07-15-2011, 05:26 PM
Nice new model there joe-I really like the long-reach capability of this machine. Are you pleased with the performance so far?
RCLogger
07-15-2011, 06:18 PM
Great Videos Joe
The 850 is a monster, what do you think it ways ? That really changes the work in the pit, you can move alot of material in a short time.
Looks great, keep the video's coming.
Greg
Lil Giants
07-15-2011, 10:53 PM
Thanx Tom. :) Yeah, I'm really loving that long reach too, it sure can pile the dirt high!
Great Videos Joe
The 850 is a monster, what do you think it ways ? Greg
I don't have a scale to weigh it Greg, I'm sure it's over 70lbs... not that that's that much weight for me to lift, it's just a real aukward piece to pick up off the floor & carry thru narrow doorways & steep stairwells. I've been spraying off/on for the last month, I have handled several hundred chemical jugs/boxes weighing as much as that.
I'm quite pleased with the model so far, absolutely incredible digging power that I have never experience before with the smaller models (obviously). :cool:
But I need a different radio b/c the DX8 only has 5 proportional chs, 4 on the sticks & a dial. The Sabertooth will not work with a 3pos switch & the dial.
I also need a better swing esc, as the MTronics Viper Marine that I have been using for the trks, the "forward" side of the esc swings smoothly, but the "reverse" side of the esc kinda pulses/hesitates, it's especially noticeable if I go too fast. You can see in the vid when it swings right.
And also, the Sabertooth I have is the 2x12, I should be using the 2x25 b/c the model is just so heavy & travels way too quick, the 2x12 over heats quickly & shuts down. The gh motor should have a higher reduction - slower rpm so the motors aren't working so hard, drawing high amps.
Jammer & Kalle are already quizing Vario fora group bargain deal on the new track drive system that the model now comes with, they thru my name in there too ( thanx guys :)), perhaps it has more reduction/slower speed than the current drive system I have?
I've only got about an hour run time on it thus far, going outside right now to work that pile over some more. :D
doodlebug
07-16-2011, 08:44 AM
Hey Joe, ever considered a "dumb waiter" system to get stuff in and out of the basement?
Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.
looking good joe glad to see you found time for some fun.
Oil Field Construction
07-16-2011, 01:37 PM
That 850 is just massive! Looks great Joe!
Lil Giants
07-16-2011, 04:08 PM
Hey Joe, ever considered a "dumb waiter" system to get stuff in and out of the basement?
Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.
Is that a rope & pulley system?
looking good joe glad to see you found time for some fun.
I made the decision to sell the cattle herd this Fall... since BSE in 03, the $market has been just barely covering costs and I really don't have alot of interest in them anyway... so, I sold my hay crop this summer & that knocked off 150hrs of work I no longer have to do during July. I got time now to enjoy some of the summer sun for a change. :)
Lil Giants
07-16-2011, 04:32 PM
I made another video last night with the 850 & dozer working together. Shortly after I started I had a problem with the small spur gear under the body plate slipping for the swing drive. Remove four bolts & four wires and the 850 is in two halves in minutes. The simplicity of this model makes it very easily to work on. :cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3VwmTK9lG4
hitachi
07-16-2011, 07:14 PM
you gotta post some more videoes of the 850 working its hypnotizing to watch it work.
its such an amazing and powerful machine.
doodlebug
07-16-2011, 11:15 PM
Hey Joe, I'll try and describe a dumb waiter. every floor in the house has a door that open's and the small platform can move from floor to floor, like a full size elevator.
80 + year's ago the rich folk's had them in the house, and the servant's could send dinner, or what ever from floor to floor. I think they used a counterbalance sytem for the hoist. Maybe I need to check wicki for a better description. But anyway's, a rope and pulley is the simple answer. Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.
P.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumbwaiter_(elevator)
Lil Giants
07-18-2011, 06:07 PM
I know what you mean Neil, I believe I've seen that in the movies. ;)
I tried the Sabertooth last night for the swing motor with poorer results than the MTronics esc, I thought for sure it would work well with smooth operation in both directions... however, it pulsed like crazy in one direction. I'm using a 2x12 in my green GL dump trk, mix turned off, one esc to propel the trk & the other for the hyd dump without a hiccup in either direction. I've either got two defective 2x12's, or I've damaged them in this 850 by trying to push too much current through them with the track motors or they are just not capable for the this swing application either. I'll later try these two 2x12's in other smaller models that I plan to channel mix the hyds. I put the Mtronics esc back in till I aquire a CC or Banebots esc to try out.
So last night's video, the 850 is absent. But I did have a good time with the lil hoe & dozer atop the pile, moving dirt eastward. You can see in the video how this lil hoe struggles with some of the packed dirt, the 850 would carve through that like it was sand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJhAHHKs9Hg
doodlebug
07-19-2011, 07:06 AM
Hey Joe, do you have an ampclamp meter? http://www.fluke.com/Fluke/usen/Electrical-Test-Tools/Clamp-Meters/Fluke-320.htm?PID=56068 to measure peak current on the various function's, Maybe somebody in the neighborhood has one? Just a thought for trouble shooting. Do you have one of those infrared hand held thermometer's? see if the stuff is getting hot, and having thermal cutout's? http://www.fluke.com/fluke/usen/products/CategoryTemp.htm Yah I have a few fluke product's. Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.
Lil Giants
08-05-2011, 09:50 PM
No, I don't have any of that fancy smancy equip Neil :D, kinda looks too bulky to use in this minature equipment though?
I've been working the snott out of my 850 the last couple nights this week digging a big hole in one corner of my basement. This dirt has never been disturbed and although its soaked up with all the moisture we've had again this yr, it's still very solid. I'd have a tuff time digging this with a bar & a spade.
Here's what I accomplished with one 5amp charged lipo.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/IMG_0538.jpg
And here's last night's one lipo pack.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/IMG_0540-1.jpg
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The 5amp lipo lasts about 45 minutes. I have a variety of ways that I can run my hyd pump, it's on a 3pos switch:
down is off
middle about 3/4 throttle
up is full throttle
turn the mix on with pump 3pos off, all three valves activated together will make the pump run near full throttle
mix on, 3pos in the middle, pumps runs near full throttle with one valve activated, two & it goes to full
mix on, 3pos up, pump runs full throttle
Digging like I am in this hole, 3pos in the middle with mix off. Getting near the end of the charge and the voltage starting to drop off, 3pos up.
3pos in the middle, pressure is about 20-22bar
3pos up, pressure is about 24 bar
I don't see a need to increase the pressure anymore than that, its plenty of power to dig hard, sticky soil. I haven't experience any leaks in the soldered cyl joints yet, though I did have some sealing issues at the beginning with the barbed fittings screwed into the cyls... could've been a speck of dirt on the seal... :confused:
Everything is working good on the 850, it has gone beyond my expectations what a scale model should could ever do. :cool:
pigeonfarmboy
08-06-2011, 02:30 AM
Good to hear. I think I've been losing sleep waiting for mine to come. Keeps getting delayed from Vario. Dummy me should have just built the **** thing.
doodlebug
08-06-2011, 10:19 AM
Hey Joe, got any car, truck, or tractor, dash mounted amp meter gage's, kicking around?
One of those hooked up on a battery lead would tell you alot!
Heck of alot cheaper than a Fluke meter to boot.
Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug
P.S. here's a link for an amp gauge http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/DOR9/7103.oap?ck=Search_amp+gage_1487984_-1&keyword=amp+gage
Snochaser
08-06-2011, 02:15 PM
The 850 looks like it's doing great. Have you posted any video of it yet? I can remember seeing any. Bet it's a treat to operate.
wow joe glad too see you new toy is working out great you will get that paint wore off in no time now and you shere getting good at taking pics as well job well done.
Lil Giants
08-07-2011, 02:10 AM
I have a 0-30v, 5amp power supply with an amp meter on it, I've used it in the past on the Stahl excavators to measure the amp draw of the pump at various psi settings... don't know if it could handle the 850 without blowing a fuse, but I know whatcha mean Neil, a dashmount amp meter is a great idea! :cool:
A couple vids of the 850 on the previous page Ben. ;) One with it in the basement and a couple outside in the bright sun.
Yeah, its working pretty good Martin. Some electronic goodies showed up last week to improve the 850's performance moreso yet for the swing & tracks, and Vario tells me that my track upgrade kit may ship out next wk... probably won't rebuild the 850 till after harvest though, with all this heat the last month, the crop is coming on fast!
My god that thing can dig a hole, it looks deep too. The trucks will never keep up :) . Quite a size difference with the CAT. Keep the videos comin.
Snochaser
08-07-2011, 11:13 AM
Here I thought I was keeping up good.....wrong. Nice videos Joe. The 850 is a hoss!
RCTech9
08-15-2011, 03:17 AM
Do you still have the track loader?
androiduk
08-30-2011, 05:28 PM
Hi Joe,
Nice to now be able to understand the reasns behind the Youtube videos I trawled through , just wondered if you have seen this one:
http://www.modellismomaximo.com/product_info.php?products_id=2406
The videos of it at work are amazing especially lifting the plastic water containers ! ! maybe you could get them to donate you one for a trail LOL
Keep up the work and I hope you and your are all OK.
Andy
Lil Giants
08-30-2011, 10:33 PM
Andy,
The Original thread that started it all "Hauling dirt out of my basement" was on a forum that disappeared a yr ago, but this thread http://www.scale4x4rc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=25724 captures the last three yrs of the goings on down there.
My Vario John Deere 850 is twice the weight, twice the reach and five times the power & speed of this Italian hoe for about the same price. Since getting this 850 model, I haven't touched the pic axe to mine out new dirt from the basement. ;)
Thank you for your interest. :)
androiduk
08-31-2011, 06:45 AM
No problem Joe , but if you hadnt of seen it you have now , maybe the moving trolley gives you some ideas :) .
WOW 48 pages to trawl through , i might be there a while :eek::D
Andy
Lil Giants
09-18-2011, 02:01 PM
The Garden thread was over 100 pages.
I've just about got this hole cleaned out... maybe today.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0595.jpg
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I'm thinking after the loose dirt is cleaned up that I'll set the 850 in the hole & dig it deeper by another two feet or so. Then most of this wall will fit in it this winter. I'm going to finnish this basement excavation project before I move out of the house next Spring. ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0600.jpg
steamer
09-18-2011, 02:34 PM
Nice work Joe. Looks like it will a busy winter if your going to finish up the project. Just wondering how much break out power difference there is between the Vario and the
RC4WD.
Rob
Lil Giants
09-18-2011, 02:43 PM
The Vario gvw is nearly 80lbs & the HK is about 30lbs... more than double I would guess. :confused:
I'm going to try to knock down that entire wall with the 850, no hand digging allowed! :D
Lil Giants
09-23-2011, 01:09 AM
I've been digging the hole deeper! My buddy Kalle had his friend tool me up a ripper tooth as well and that helps imensely to loosen up this sticky brown clay.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0606.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0608.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVY6HWRRgTE
androiduk
09-23-2011, 05:06 AM
That 850 has some amazing power Joe , I bet the others hardly get a look in at the work now :D . Hows the chinese one working out , did you get the bits to repair you WDC ?
Andy
RCLogger
09-23-2011, 06:35 PM
Joe Its a good thing that Deere wasn't avalible years ago or else you would have been out of work long ago. That Deere is a real machine ! ! !
Great video, are you planning on building a road down into the hole so you can start hauling out material ?
greg
Azonic
09-23-2011, 07:35 PM
Nice video Joe!
The ripper looked right at home in that clay, tomorrow i will go out for some digging! :)
Lil Giants
09-24-2011, 05:40 PM
It's been awhile since the Stahl was last used, but the HK is reaching what it can from below to load out trks.
Well, probably not Greg. Though my waist line might be a bit wider if it wasn't for the pic axe workout. :D It'd be a twenty foot ramp to get out of this hole, so I just relay dirt from one hoe to the other. ;)
The Ripper is the perfect tool for this job Kalle. http://www.scale4x4rc.org/forums/images/smilies/nice.gif
Here's my guard dog!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0618.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0621.jpg
And I've got these little critters coming out of the wet too. :confused:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0624.jpg
The HK making itself useful.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0625.jpg
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The deepest point of the hole is about 44" below the basement surface.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0623.jpg
doodlebug
09-24-2011, 10:48 PM
Hey Joe, thank's for the chuckle, I.E. the critter's:p While I was in the Phillipine's, I had to catch gecko lizard's, for pest control in the barrack's:eek:
They did a mighty fine job:D
Glad to hear you like the ripper, I built one for my mini excavator-sure handy!
Cheer's, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.
RCTech9
09-27-2011, 08:48 PM
Can you make a video with the HK Hoe Getting dirt out of the hole? Have you had any mechanical issues with the HK Hoe?
Lil Giants
09-30-2011, 01:49 AM
Well I finnished harvest a few hrs ago, I wish I had another 1000ac to do yet, I luv running my CR9060, barely broke it in @just over 100 seperator hrs. :(
So yeah, perhaps this wkend I'll make some movies with the HK.
The track motors are very weak, the slightest bit of dirt in the links stalls them out! I positioned the arm perpendicular to the tracks to lift the stall track & while moving the track for/rev, slap the bottom of it with my hand to clean the debris out of the links.
One other thing that seems very odd. I'm using 10W hyd oil, the pump strains somewhat for a few minutes of operation while I'm using it, it seems the oil has to warm up some before the pump motor mellows & flows the oil smoothly to the cyls. I'm using the same oil in my 850, no hesitation from the word go. But then the 850's motor to pump connection is a 1:2.5 belt drive (I didn't actually measure it) instead of the HK's direct connection.
look's good buddy but don't dig too deep or you will have water coming in lol. glad to hear you all your toy's are working good.
Stuff
10-01-2011, 02:01 PM
jeeze i lurk for like a couple months and your moving and your digging a 4ft hole in the basement?!
Lil Giants
10-02-2011, 02:02 AM
The well is 90 foot deep, so I think I'm safe yet. :D
Not everything is working good yet Martin, but in another month or so I'll have nothing but time to work at it... hard to believe another growing year has come & gone again already, how do we slow time down? :eek:
So what have you two characters been up to? Have you put away your life jackets yet?
td9clyde
10-02-2011, 09:10 AM
time flys when your haveng fun wish there was a way to slow it down
Stuff
10-02-2011, 03:15 PM
lol life jackets are gone but the effects will be here for a couple years. have to re-level the place every couple months cause its sinking now.. its about 4" into the ground since we moved back after the flood thing.
Planning on going to the model engineering show. Gotta get away out to mog's and work on the Unit crane. servo went in it and it never was really finished.. just life got in the way lol
Lil Giants
10-02-2011, 03:58 PM
Good to hear you're starting to get life somewhat back to normal. My corrals are still under water, weaning the calves for market at the end of this month is gonna be an interesting task to complete. :D
To my surprise I discovered a couple nights ago that there's atleast three of them gators down there now. :eek:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0642.jpg
Last Sunday this the amount of dirt before I started hauling...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0636.jpg
And by evenings end I got this much out, about thrity five loads.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0646.jpg
This is the total to date that I've taken from the basement, though not all of it is there as I've used some of it around the yard to fill in holes & low areas. This subsoil clay packs as hard as cement. I taketh away from the side of my house with my farm FEL to pile it over there.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0647.jpg
Now here is the pile to move out today.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0644.jpg
I use the 850, as it's just four scoops to fill the trk. :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0639.jpg
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Stuff
10-02-2011, 06:37 PM
wow! you have been busy!
RCLogger
10-03-2011, 12:18 AM
Where do you get those scale Gator's Joe ! ! LOL
Was it a good year crop wise ? Looks like you have got some good weather and have been busy moving dirt....
You need some more equipment operators out there !
Greg
Lil Giants
10-03-2011, 02:25 AM
Some good, some not so good Greg. My spring wht froze mid Sept before it fully matured, find out here shortly how it grades & for what price. I didn't hit the lottery this yr by any means, but I'm pretty sure I did well enough to farm another yr without needing to talk to the banker. :D
Indeed it was a great weather day! :cool: The one great thing about the 1st Fall frost is all the squiters are gone! :D
The WA500 got the nod to load trks today, even put the Lil Giants flagship trk to work as well (after the tx for the green GL died half thru)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0648.jpg
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It's fun to use this trk/pup to haul out, but I have to go outside to dump it so I don't snap the hitch when I jack knife the pup to dump the trk... lots of excercise I guess while play too. :D
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The dozer grooming the pile to smooth it out - pack it so the 6x6's can start a new layer next Sunday.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0665.jpg
I didn't quite get it all hauled out, but then if the weather is decent this week I won't have much time for digging anyway.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0668.jpg
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RCLogger
10-06-2011, 09:27 PM
Thanks for the photo's and update Joe ! Sun, dirt and construction models, what more could a guy ask for... Well beer and a lawn chair I guess..... lol
greg
rockNmayhem
10-07-2011, 12:26 PM
Joe, progress is looking great. Good to see the dumper and pup back out in the sun and getting some excercise as well. Looking like the whole thing is working smoothly these days.
Tyler
dirtpusher9
10-08-2011, 09:12 PM
Glad to see you have time to move some dirt. Great pics. But I still think you need a bigger dozer, I just sayin. lol
Stuff
10-13-2011, 12:49 PM
Hey Joe, if its raining this weekend *knock on wood it goes away* that model engineering show is on :D
Lil Giants
10-14-2011, 01:12 AM
Martin was telling me that next yr is the 25th Aniversary, for sure I'll make it to that one, should be a memorable event. ;)
I'd like to bring my 850 to show off its size & power, but I don't have it working perfectly yet. I got the u/c booked in with the local machinist on monday, so I'll have to tear it down this wkend.
Perhaps a flask of rye or butter ripple Greg, it aint summer anymore. :(
Cheers Tyler, the rc's have been relatively trouble free all summer. :)
Tim, the 850's bucket is pretty huge, probably 3 or 4 scoops for each tub... I betcha I could load your train inside of five minutes. Boy oh boy, the two of us could move a mountain of dirt on just one charge alone! :D
I've thought about your D9 often Joe, it's a magnificient beast & also too efficient as well, it'd get 'er all done in one or two passes. :D
About time for you to start another project though, eh?
I just about got the top of the wall cleared off & then just keep digging the hole deeper till the snow flies in a month or so. ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0672.jpg
Thanx for your interest gentlemen. :cool:
siuvinson
10-14-2011, 09:21 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0672.jpg
That's a great photo Joe!
modelman
10-14-2011, 11:49 PM
I really like that last picture also joe!! I don't know how you get any farming done with this many toys to run and this much dirt to move:D
Lil Giants
10-16-2011, 03:50 AM
Thanx suivinson. :)
Moderation Tom. There's always things to do on the farm, but gotta have a lil fun at the end of the day too. :)
Like today for instance. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d8rn5uhO9g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT_bPYA4RrY
Working the 850 so hard in this clay, I have trouble with this wrist pin working its way out to the left every few hrs. Have you had this trouble at all Kalle?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0675.jpg
hauler_10-4
10-16-2011, 11:39 AM
Dam Joe that picture looks like a 1:1.
Lil Giants
10-17-2011, 01:50 AM
Cheers Jeremy. :)
Got the top of the wall all cleared off today so it's ready for excavation when the snow flies soon. Boy oh boy, quite a dramatic change in temps in just the past few days, gonna have to start wearing long johns everyday soon.... brrrr :eek:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u-iQTdMfqY
wow, Great video's as always, Lil Giants, I like your models because they look like they would if the were 1:1 machines, i.e. well used and careworn,
Espeefan
10-23-2011, 02:00 AM
I have to agree with everyone else! That picture of the Volvo dumping in front of the grain bins had me fooled too. At first glance I thought you might have bought yourself a 1:1 Volvo ADT. That is a great photo.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0672.jpg
Brilliant picture, the silos in the background are far enough away to get the dumper into perspective to make it look like a 1:1 machine, it had me fooled into thinking it was a real dumper
Lil Giants
10-23-2011, 04:46 PM
Really?! I don't see it... too use to that view I guess. :D
Wish I could of got a pic or video of the mud bogging I was doing this morning in my corrals with my 800 Sportsman... weaned calves & shipped to market, sale tomorrow. Had three cows standing in the middle of the water, me & my 3 helpers standing at water's edge throwing mud lumps at them... it was like they were standing there grinning at us, come get me :). Their eyes got wide when the quad came roaring out there! :D It was about 200 feet of 30" deep muck!
Thank you for your compliments. :)
Azonic
10-24-2011, 06:28 AM
[/QUOTE]Working the 850 so hard in this clay, I have trouble with this wrist pin working its way out to the left every few hrs. Have you had this trouble at all Kalle?[QUOTE]
I have had that problem Joe, but not with the particular one in you picture, i had the one that connects the boom to the undercarrige come loose, i installed a grubscrew there, i had 2 of the pins the connects the quick coupler come loose as well, i used a little of Locktite cylindrical (648) glue to fasten them, worked great and i can still get them out quite easy.
footprint
10-24-2011, 08:11 AM
I thought you were just trying to be artistic and playing around with Tilt Shift, then realised you have far more important things to do. As always thanks for the update, its always great to see your collection getting a good workout.
If you do get bored play around with Tilt Shift, http://vimeo.com/3156959 this is made from Tilt shift pics into a timelapse and here http://tiltshiftmaker.com/ a site to make some, you can achieve better with photoshop ect but still its free and easy.
Lil Giants
11-06-2011, 05:32 PM
Thanx for the info Kalle. :)
It was a fluke footprint, I swear! :D
I got the last of the loose soil tidied up last wkend & sealed up the window, it's getting cold out there, hurricane winds out of the south all week brought this to me yesterday. :(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0707.jpg
Last wkend's activities.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0694.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0695.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0696.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0697.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkKRI5i-Tks
I got started this week mining down the last 8x3x5 cube of the remaining south wall. I'm gonna try to do it all with the rc's, no hand digging... AND NO BLASTING EITHER!!! :eek: so spare me those comments, I'm not playing with explosives in my basement. ;)
I employed #1 for the 1st time in nearly two yrs with putting a drill on it. It's a 3000rpm motor with a 5/16 masonary bit. Drill down a few inches so the 850's ripper tooth can rip up the bone dry, rock hard clay.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0702.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0701.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXsvf_Fo_fw
I'm hoping this week that I can get my 850's u/c to the machinist so I can get my track drive upgrade installed. As it is now, the 850 is immobile... good thing that it has a long reach & can dig a wide area without moving. I just about blew a testicle lifting it up there though. :eek:
rcguyfarms
11-06-2011, 06:43 PM
that is a deep hole, when do u expect it to fill with water? Is that for a future sump pump? I see ur original excavator has a new life.
Lil Giants
11-06-2011, 07:45 PM
Never. :D
I dug the hole so I would have somewhere to "stack" the dirt from the south wall that I knock down this winter. Most of it should fill this hole, with the remainder filling the air gap of the wood crib.
modelman
11-06-2011, 08:01 PM
Joe-you are really creative in coming up with ways to deal with that hard dirt! Nice job!
RCLogger
11-06-2011, 11:29 PM
Great video's Joe
I looks like old man winter is there now, good thing you got some dirt moved outside this fall...
You sure know how to make that WA500 shine, it seems to work great ! You have got to have the hardest dirt I have ever seen, great idea on the rock drill idea..
Keep up the good work
greg
Lil Giants
11-07-2011, 01:04 AM
Thanx Tom, it's been a challange to do as much as possible with the rc's.
Last wk I was hauling clay dirt from a new development in town (contractor giving it away & free loading) with my Mack tandem & pup, fixed alot of pounded down areas in my dad's yard, a couple of passes over with my FEL & it's hard as cement. Drive over it with a loaded trk & it doesn't leave track in the soil. It's pretty dense clay! I was watching the 657 pans the week before, they were only cutting 3-4 inches depth per pass... lucky them it wasn't a typical dry yr.
Still scheming on a jackhammer Greg, I've got that hammer attachment we pick up at Canadian Tire that day sitting on my workbench right now, trying to figure how I can make it work. That Leibherr color hoe broke its boom a few months ago, thinking about removing the boom/stick entirely and fastening the hammer in its place, using the boom cyls to lift it up/down... I hope an idea comes to me soon, the drill works ok, but I don't think it will have much for longevity.
doodlebug
11-07-2011, 01:57 PM
Hey Joe have you considered one of the smaller hammer drill's, corded or cordeless?
Later, Neil.
Lil Giants
11-08-2011, 08:00 AM
I did a corded one some time ago for the hammer part of the drive, tinkering moreso with that one now rather than the CT one. Might have a test run before the wkend. :D
Azonic
11-08-2011, 11:42 AM
Great videos Joe, that WA-500 looks like it runs great, not much wheelspin, is it very good grip there or does it just grip? Anything you dont like about it?
Lil Giants
11-08-2011, 04:41 PM
Thanx Kalle. :) The model has plenty of power & can spin the wheels easily. I try not to. It grips well, I can't recall if I ever weighed it (don't personally have a scale), probably close to twenty 20 pounds.
I can't think of anything negative to say about it, it works really well. One of these days soon I'll install a DX6 radio so I can mix the pump/valves, make it work even better.
If you haven't heard already, Lars Stahl shut 'er down in September... don't know if he's taking a break to regroup or if he's done forever. Hopefully Leimbach & son will take over his side of it, it'd be a shame to see these simple working, but very durable models disappear from the marketplace. Klaus Leimbach & the late Harald Stahl are the pioneers that got this rc construction model hobby started in the early 90's.
Azonic
11-08-2011, 05:01 PM
Thanx Kalle. :) The model has plenty of power & can spin the wheels easily. I try not to. It grips well, I can't recall if I ever weighed it (don't personally have a scale), probably close to twenty 20 pounds.
I can't think of anything negative to say about it, it works really well. One of these days soon I'll install a DX6 radio so I can mix the pump/valves, make it work even better.
If you haven't heard already, Lars Stahl shut 'er down in September... don't know if he's taking a break to regroup or if he's done forever. Hopefully Leimbach & son will take over his side of it, it'd be a shame to see these simple working, but very durable models disappear from the marketplace. Klaus Leimbach & the late Harald Stahl are the pioneers that got this rc construction model hobby started in the early 90's.
Thx for the info Joe, seems to be a nice machine!
I only heard that it was hard to get parts and such lately from Stahl, not that he closeing, hope that someone takes over hes production, they seem to be very nice models.
Maybe i should keep an eye out for a used one! :)
Lil Giants
11-08-2011, 10:25 PM
Frank said his WA 500-6 loader will be available middle next yr. ;)
Azonic
11-09-2011, 02:42 AM
Frank said his WA 500-6 loader will be available middle next yr. ;)
Yea, i just have to check the price on that one first! :)
Lil Giants
11-15-2011, 08:25 PM
Putting my 850's u/c back together...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/008.jpg
Instead of wasting time and money getting a dual sprocket, I just added a washer to either side of the sprocket to fill the width of the track link. I just need to chuck it up in the lathe to true the diameter so it runs level. It's fitting quite snug as it is, I'll try it 1st, any binding & I'll have to trim the face on one side.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/009.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/012.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/013.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/015.jpg
Stuff
11-15-2011, 11:28 PM
very cool joe! way to use the welder!
doodlebug
11-16-2011, 12:53 AM
Way to go Joe, You're thinking outside the box! Thank's for sharing!
Cheer's, Neil.
Azonic
11-16-2011, 02:37 AM
Finally Joe, its time for that 850 to move its feet! :)
Great solution for the sprocket, some black paint over that and you shouldnt see the washers, if you even care! :D
One thing i noticed when you screwing the bevelgear unit to the sideplate, you wont be able to mount it to the undercarrige.
Instead mount the plate first to the UC with the rollers and motors on the plate, then slide the bevelgear unit into the undercarrige, just slide it in, when it stops, turn the bevelgear so that the yokes lineup and attach to eachother then push the bevel unit full in and screw it to the undercarrige.
Its a very neat way how they did this, 4 screws and you can pull the bevel unit out, i have done it once out "on work" and its so easy.
Now you will finally get to use the model full out! :)
Lil Giants
11-16-2011, 09:32 AM
Yeah, that took about a half second to realize Kalle when I set the outer plate to the u/c... this aint gonna work! :D
4 bolts??!!! Mine has 8 bolts to secure it in place. 4 on the outer plate & 4 on the bridge.
Amazing when I get JUICED to build, started about 8pm... now it's 7am... oops! :D It was about 2am when I had to make a trip to my farm shop 3miles away to re-tack the inner washer on one of the sprokets. I find it difficult to mig with 035 wire on low amps, need another mig for hobby use with 023. ;)
While I was there I welded a quik tach to my drill, the precut plates I got extras from Kalle when he sent me a duplicate of his ripper tooth last winter. :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/004-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/008-1.jpg
When it was time to take my u/c to the machinist, I strip it down in about 40 min... 9hrs to re-assemble :confused: got 'er done.
Time for a nap. :D
Azonic
11-16-2011, 11:51 AM
Yeah, that took about a half second to realize Kalle when I set the outer plate to the u/c... this aint gonna work!
4 bolts??!!! Mine has 8 bolts to secure it in place. 4 on the outer plate & 4 on the bridge.
Haha! Yea, i hate that feeling! :) When i figured it all made sense as it always does!
Ohh my bad, youre right, i forgot about the 4 ones on the outside plate, 8 on each side.
So the extra mounts finally came to use, looking forward to see the difference on the 850!
Lil Giants
11-17-2011, 06:32 PM
The DX8 I'm using with this 850 has five proportional chs, two 3pos switches & one 2pos switch. So that leaves one proportional (dial) & one 3pos to try to operate this Sabertooth.
I have the turning on the 3pos & all I could get it to do was either off, turn right slowly or turn right quickly. Couldn't get it to turn left.
So I started monkeying with the mix, making aux3 (dial, for/rev) master & aux1 (3pos, turning) slave. Master has a bit more epa than slave, also factored in negative offset & F Mode 2 to turn mix on (0 or 1 is off) and now it works left/right! :) But only if I'm moving for/rev.
I just watched your DX10 vid PFB, I hope my thumbs are long enough to reach the sticks! :p I think the DX10 will be the ultimate for any constr rc. :cool:
Lil Giants
11-18-2011, 02:23 PM
The 850 took a new route to the basement last night, a bit of a tight fit! thru the window. I was thinking afterward had I removed the bucket that might have given me another half inch lower & probably drove straight in... next time. Don't want to carry it down the stairs no more... and I can easily split it half to go up the stairs if its disabled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qURaVKv7bwE
Had a little accident last nite... thought I was done assembly & ready to go the basement when I noticed the swing motor seemed a bit loose. I had to separate the 850’s house from the u/c (again) and then balance the house on the tracks with wooden blocks to take the swing motor pinion off to get the motor out. It sat there for ten minutes while I sit there in front of it. Step away from the bench for 30secs & the house hits the floor! I heard it starting to slide and grabbed it by the stick, but not before it struck the stool 1st. My throat was hoarse from screaming profanities for two minutes. (it's funny now :D)
Minor damage to the ceramic coating on the boom & stick, took some paint off the counterweight and the DX8 rx no longer works. The light is out in the larger box where the leads plug in, but the light is on in the smaller box. Got no power to the servos nor esc’s. Good thing I have a spare on hand... shyt happens & I hate waiting for parts.
It’s quite the dent in my linoleum floor. :eek:
Gonna Have to mount an overhead crane in the workshop to work on this now heavier equip safely. :D
Lil Giants
11-18-2011, 02:55 PM
This is the oil color after approx 30hrs of 26bar pressure, my camera doesn't really capture the right shade. It's dark, but I can still see through it somewhat. Atleast it's not black like the aluminum cyl barrels of Leimbach with 15bar press. ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/011.jpg
pigeonfarmboy
11-18-2011, 02:58 PM
Engine hoist!!
You won't want to hold the 10t in your hands. You will use the weird shoulder harness because it's ridiculously comfortable this way. Either that or if you put it on your lap while sitting it would work well.
pigeonfarmboy
11-18-2011, 02:59 PM
Are you using plow blade oil or Vario's stuff?
Lil Giants
11-18-2011, 03:21 PM
I guess I will have to adapt however when I get it... I've always operated with just my thumbs though.
Esso Hydraul 50 (10W), get it at the local petroleum dealer.
RCP57
11-18-2011, 04:00 PM
How do you have the DX8 set up to run the 850?
Reg
Lil Giants
11-18-2011, 05:43 PM
boom^ swing> stick^ bucket>
Sabertooth with the differential mix on, dial switch (aux3 ch) for/rev, 3pos (aux1 ch) turning... although center of 3pos is not 0s? Is it 1s one direction & 2s the other direction? Don't know what the problem is that I can not get this 3pos to work the way I want or think it should. :confused: Centering 3pos turns right.
Fiddling with the mix, aux3 Master / aux1 Slave and adjusting a few other variables like offset & sub trim, I can make it turn left.
Moving forward, center aux1 turns it right. Moving forward, activate mix with F mode switch turns it left.
This is how I got it to work with the chs I had left to use. There's other electronic devices out there to expand small ch radios to double up functions on the sticks, but I want to be able to use the arm with the tracks to climb steep slopes.
RCP57
11-18-2011, 06:11 PM
haha sounds complicated for sure. I have a DX8 as well and have been trying to formulate a plan for controlling my Volvo if I ever get it finished. I plan on running a hydraulic thumb on top of the other functions so I may have to run a second reciever for the track drives. I would like to have it all on one but I can't see it being possible without buying another radio which is not in the cards anytime soon.
ihbuilder
11-18-2011, 09:25 PM
I wonder if you can take another Tx / Rx and turn the 2 sticks into foot peddles for the drive just like the real excavator . Or just extend the sticks like in our old koering 6605's . I'd be right at home with that set up ;) .
RCLogger
11-19-2011, 02:22 AM
This is what you need Joe !
This machine is a beast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=cjGIzuKJQMg
greg
Lil Giants
11-19-2011, 04:57 PM
The problem I see with using two different rx's is the time delay to switch between each one, which is about 10-15secs (though I never really timed it, seems long).
From http://www.leimbach-modellbau.de/ Steuerkanal-Umschaltbaustein Part#1120F Price 103E
http://www.leimbach-modellbau.de/Images/img124.jpg
You plug six servo leads into rx, then you can run six channels on your radio on the yellow colored side, flip a 2pos switch (Gear ch on the DX8) and run another 6chs on the white colored side. All leads are numbered 1-6
I have one of these, works pretty good, I'll have to dig it out. I could likely put Y servo leads on the boom & stick to run them on both sides of the device to use boom stick with the tracks. I forgot I had this. :)
Steve, after seeing what JensR did to mutate two radios with gamer joysticks to operate his grader... anything's possible! We just need to employ the ppl with these special talents to make it for us. ;)
Yes, quite a beast Greg, I think the basement is too small for it though. :D
ihbuilder
11-19-2011, 05:17 PM
Steve, after seeing what JensR did to mutate two radios with gamer joysticks to operate his grader... anything's possible! We just need to employ the ppl with these special talents to make it for us.
Joe , I had the chance to try Rod's (stepside) excavator , stationary . it's taking me some time to get use to it :confused: If I sat in a seat with the joysticks beside me and 2 foot peddle/levers I'd be at home . as far as making that setup , it'll be some time and $$$ for me . I'm still a little green on these electrics yet :o motors too . the driveline on the Mack has become a majore disappointment :( .
RCP57
11-19-2011, 05:39 PM
I'll have to look into getting something like that for sure! It would be much better than switching models(rx) all the time just to move the excavator a few inches.
Thanks for posting that!
Reg
Lil Giants
11-22-2011, 07:46 AM
Chiseling away at the wall with the ripper & bucket, making pretty good headway by finding some soft spots near the cement foundation vs outer part of the wall that is rock hard! I've got an idea in my head to make a rock saw!
The power of this brute just continues to awe me, the boulders that the ripper tooth will pull up from an inch or two below the surface.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/002-1.jpg
Pics before I started.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/004-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/003-1.jpg
Two 5000mAh lipo packs later.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/011-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/016.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVHxFbfJs7Y
RCLogger
11-22-2011, 05:26 PM
Thanks for the photo's Joe, how are the pins in the boom holding up ? Are they brass and is there a way for you to get some grease in them ?
greg
Lil Giants
11-22-2011, 10:33 PM
The pins are steel, friction fitted in the lower boom pivot and upper & lower stick pivots with hard plastic bushings in the thinner connections. Not a bit! of wiggle in the arm anywhere, after 35+ hrs of hard digging! And the arm has been stressed alot with side loads/twisting by cutting hard ground with the outer 3rd of the bucket. ;)
Lil Giants
11-22-2011, 10:53 PM
My latest try at a jackhammer failed yet again. :( Just can't get the right motor for the job, always too fast & too weak.
So I was thinking maybe a rock saw, this 850 is big enough, heavy enough to hang a large gh motor on the end of the stick. I got this here sprocket set from a 10spd bike, how do I get apart, each sprocket by itself?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/017.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/020.jpg
ihbuilder
11-22-2011, 11:32 PM
Joe , you got a liquid wrench (oxy/act. torch ) ? if so how good are you with it ? basically cut some slots on the ID bore and collapse it . Looks like you already started cutting , is it hardend ?
Azonic
11-23-2011, 06:19 AM
I think that cassette is fittet with blind nuts or such, the other smaller sprockets was separate right? I think if you could use a hacksaw in between the sprockets to get them to separate, maybe?
footprint
11-24-2011, 12:08 AM
Dude you have the best toy collection (full stop), thats also a challenge to anyone else.
Normally the cassettes are bolted together but that one looks to be a pressfit; your headed in the right direction. Maybe a small (100mm) circular saw blade like on the cordless ones, run a bolt through with some nylocks/setscrews and washers and a coupling to the motor.
hvy 1ton
11-24-2011, 06:18 PM
Seeing as how the 850 can rip what your trying to dig, you might try a ripper bucket. I know full-sized these buckets will dig anything that can ripped. http://leattach.com/multiripperbucket.htm
pigeonfarmboy
11-25-2011, 12:25 AM
Seeing as how the 850 can rip what your trying to dig, you might try a ripper bucket. I know full-sized these buckets will dig anything that can ripped. http://leattach.com/multiripperbucket.htm
Cool, I didn't know anything like that existed! I got the quick detach for my 850 with the intention of making some different tools.
Lil Giants
11-25-2011, 03:19 PM
So I chucked the cassette (is that what they're called :confused: ) in the lathe & it started sparking like grinder... harden steel, eh? So I worked it over a bit with a cutting disc in my dremel & could see the parting line that the sprocket was not formed with hub. Took it my farm shop where I have MORE POWER! :D & ground that shoulder off to get 3 sprockets off. The other two I'm not sure what's holding them, but they're too small anyway.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/003-2.jpg
A small 4" saw blade is a great idea footprint, as it'll have offset teeth with carbide tips. :cool:
Come to think of it, hacking up a saw blade, one could probably duplicate the rock bucket you showed hvy 1ton. ;) Can you weld that kind of steel with a regular mig welder?
All the ripping I've been doing lately, I'm hitting stones constantly, so I've lost interest in the "rock saw" idea. :(
So I got to thinking that I should redesign my ripper tooth, give it more of a heel to work as a pry bar for when I strike rocks or really hard soil, curl the tooth to pry it up. Made it from 3/16's steel which is half the width of Kalle's tooth, gave it a sharp beveled edge and it's ripping like butter now! :D
I was thinking maybe making another tooth from 1/8 steel with more heel yet & maybe moreso like a "L" shape with 30degree rising angle, sorta like a subsoiler shank.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/005-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/008-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/010-1.jpg
Espeefan
11-25-2011, 04:09 PM
Yikes, who welded that ripper tooth, on the right? :D :p
Lil Giants
11-25-2011, 11:57 PM
You don't recognize farmer gobb it on welding Nathan?! :D I bet I'll never break it off? :p
I'm way out of practice, but I made it look prettier on this one. :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/014-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/012-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/013-1.jpg
Gotta hand it to Kalle's buddy who mig - tig welded this 1st tooth, deep even penetration, pretty near had to cut all the way through before it let go. :cool:
Espeefan
11-26-2011, 12:53 AM
Joe, I just had to tease you a little. :D We all have our 'off days'. I do pretty good with MIG welding. TIG welding is something you need to do often to be good at it, and stay good at it (not me). The other welds are looking much better. I joke with the guys at work, all the time. 'The bigger the blob, the better the job!' :D
doodlebug
11-26-2011, 02:32 AM
Hey Joe, this was at the LEA booth at ConExpo. Yes I have the business card from the builder, if you are interested.
Later, Neil.
Azonic
11-26-2011, 08:06 AM
Hey Joe, this was at the LEA booth at ConExpo. Yes I have the business card from the builder, if you are interested.
Later, Neil.
Wow thats a bad *** bucket! That should be the bucket for you Joe!
Any more info on he's products?
FreddyGearDrive
11-26-2011, 08:37 AM
Hey Joe,instead of beating your equiptment up diggin in the hard stuff.
what if you went to work & made a horizonal boring machine on tracks.Then get some 1/2"dia X4"long pvc pipe & two caps.
Glue the one cap on,fill the tube with some good ole-black powder.
Then drill a small hole in the other cap for the wick,glue the cap on,& stuff er down the hole. Leave acouple of inches of wick hanging out the hole.
Giver a light & stand back,then all's you need is a loader to load out the pile.
You could get really trick & use a car coil to set it off.;)
Now just think of the vid that would make.:eek::eek::eek:
Instead of y-tube,Baby! You'de make the Canadian national news!:cool::cool:
I'de be more than honored to give you a hand makin the boring machine.
Have been tossing this around for awhile,before I suggested it.
Didn't want to get laughed off of the forum.But the more I thought about it,the better of an idea it seemed to me.
I have most of the parts to build one,except for the under carrage & tracks. See'ins on how you have so many excavators,& acouple of them have a million hrs on them. PERFECT! There's the under carrage!
Just a suggestion.
FGD
Something like this.
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwGIqzGZ_7y0XuRts8JLSIWRyj7luB7 gy1NwiKu6Lqqtb8wdkJfw
doodlebug
11-26-2011, 01:39 PM
There's some stuff called s-mite, same idea but it takes 24 hrs for the expansion to take place. Yah, anti climatic! It's a slurry that's mixed with water to make a slurry.
I will post the bucket builder tonight.
Later, Neil.
lol Freddy, that would be awesome. Maybe drill the holes just the right size for blackcats to fit in, then fuse them all together blow a pail full of dirt down.
Oh for a small supply of detcord for xmas ;)
Lil Giants
11-26-2011, 02:50 PM
OH YEAH! I'd be on the National News alright! ...under the file of dumbf/k redneck who literally brought the house down..... on himself! :rolleyes: Explosives are too unpredictable, no matter how small the charge. Create an air pocket in the wrong place & the foundation is in trouble!
It's an interesting idea that I game to try Freddy, and one of these aging excavators with their worn out/broken booms would be the perfect donor for such a boring machine model. However, we'll save this idea till when I move to the barn... 36'x78' interior area and NO 500 ton roof to come crashing down. I'll be over there next winter. ;) I have very little wall left to mine down anyway.
You bet Neil! post up the contact info & we'll see if this chap can replicate the real thing in model form & make it as effective as they claim it to be. The 850 certainly has the power to destroy the earth or the bucket.
The 3rd tooth didn't have quite the right point on it & was less effective than the 2nd tooth. DING DING new idea... use a 3" ardox nail for a replaceable point. It's cutting hard ground really well now! Carved down another 3" last night with two charged 4s 5amp lipos :cool:
And while using it, it dawned on me that I should fashion up a tube to tack to the tooth for a quick change after every batt change to keep a sharp point.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/002-3.jpg
hvy 1ton
11-26-2011, 05:21 PM
Hey Joe, this was at the LEA booth at ConExpo. Yes I have the business card from the builder, if you are interested.
Later, Neil.
I went by the LEA booth but didn't see that bucket, that's awesome. How close is that to the size you need for the 850 joe?
Lil Giants
11-26-2011, 06:42 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/DSC0031820480x360.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/IMG_0267.jpg
doodlebug
11-26-2011, 10:58 PM
The Bucket builder is http://www.jaynikl.piczo.com/?cr=1 OR JAYNIKL@HOTMAIL.COM
The bucket was on a table at the back of the booth. I talked to the LEA Rep, and hope to do business with them in the future. For my Cat 305C CR mini ex.
I'll have to talk with the neighbor's about titanium scrap, and maybe make some teeth? I don't have the mount's figured out
yet? HMMM? more psychotic idea's!
Joe, look's like you are having fun with your experiment's! keep it up!
Cheer's, Neil.
Lil Giants
11-27-2011, 12:21 AM
Made from plastic resin, nice fabrication work. :cool:
http://jaynikl.piczo.com/?g=44062888&cr=1
FreddyGearDrive
11-27-2011, 10:39 AM
keep a sharp point.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/002-3.jpg
:eek::eek::eek:HOLY MOLEY! :eek::eek::eek: I just had to go back 3 pages to make sure this thread didn't change topics!:eek: Now I know you said you were getting rid of the herd.
I thought for sure when I seen this fine lookin piece of diggin equipt,them cows were leaving the farm via a flat bed & not a live stock trailer!:eek:
Yu know,if you really want to finish it off. Just hook it to the machine with some baleing wire!;):D
Sorry Joe! I couldn't let that one go bye without some ball breaking!EH?
FGD :D
doodlebug
11-27-2011, 02:28 PM
A link for for non explosive demolition, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-explosive_demolition_agents . Just like watching paint dry! LOL! http://www.dexpan.com/dexpan-non-explosive-controlled-demolition-agent-by-silent-cracking.aspx?gclid=CP7vmaW516wCFQZbhwodg0uJqQ http://www.crackamite.com/crackamite.html http://www.westernblasting.com/fractag.html
Cheer's, Neil.
Lil Giants
11-27-2011, 06:42 PM
The ol' doc messing with your medication again Freddy? Idk wtf you're talking about. :confused: :p
That looks like that's exactly what I need Neil, I'll read more later... gotta get going here shortly to the Grey Cup party. :D
I stripped away about a foot so far. The deeper I got, the harder the soil got, getting to be like granite!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/001-1.jpg
It rained last night. :D
Water is the best remedy to soften clay... although muddy clay can be a problem too with sticking to everything, and binding shyt up!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/003-3.jpg
Using a wood bit to drill holes, keep full of water & continue drilling down to the length of the bit, some holes are only an inch deep at the start, for the next couple days. By the time I get the pile below cleaned up in a wk's time, the soil in the wall might be at the correct ... what's the right word? consistency - texture -? for easy digging without clogging up the hoe with mud.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/004-4.jpg
This pic looks like some of my cropland that's next to tame & native grass, freaking badgers dig enormous holes! :mad:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/005-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/002-4.jpg
Screening the fines so it's just the lumps being hauled to the crusher.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHMfAP9_PsA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzOSTcdlew0
The file size for the 1st vid was about 140mb, the 2nd was 550mb. Do you any difference in the resolution quality? I don't. :confused:
Stuff
12-02-2011, 11:45 PM
wow thats some dedication there joe!
Lil Giants
12-05-2011, 11:21 AM
Thanx Dean, good times. :)
Shipped the cows out on three liners Sat morning, the sale starts at noon today, I'm finally done with them critters. :cool:
Had some quiet time last night, just about got the last of the loose stuff cleaned up off the floor & will be back mining down the wall again today/tomorrow.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/004-5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/003-4.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NANsMnK4ShU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Tfh1ZNRsE
footprint
12-06-2011, 04:59 AM
That drill is way to clean, another subtle hint to try the rocksaw :D
"freaking badgers dig enormous holes" - lol, my partner has that same problem but with Wombats and now wants to keep them as pets
Keep up the hard work we like updates with pics
Lil Giants
12-08-2011, 08:23 PM
We'll see. :D Back on the wall again today ripping & digging, and so far the soil is quite mellow & easy to break up... also to mention that with the added moisture, not so dusty to drop the dirt off the edge either. :cool: Perhaps it's time to fashion up a water hauler? :D
Driving away from the screener, then past it to move dirt into the hole, away from the screener.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh6z6oGDNYg
RCP57
12-10-2011, 07:07 PM
I was wondering what style hydraulic valves the Vario's use? I have a pump built and now I need to figure out what type of valves we should make(rotary or spool).
Thanks Reg
RCLogger
12-13-2011, 01:38 AM
Are you still working the number two hoe Joe ? ( RC4WD )
Lil Giants
12-15-2011, 09:34 PM
I'd say it's probably a rotary valve Reg, here's some pics from Vario's site. Can't tell you anything more than that.
http://www.vario-earthmovers.com/baubericht/hitachi-zaxis-870-teil-10.html
I ran the HK last nite for an hour Greg, the 1st time in a couple of months, and it really sucks in fluent movement compared to the 850. :rolleyes:
I tried when I 1st got it last July to make the ch mix work via radio menu & couldn't get nothing. Last nite I was gonna try to adjust some of the valves EPA's similar to how I programmed the 850, and couldn't get into the menu settings. And playtime for the HK hoe ended when the lights flickered & then the pump rpm slowed right down... I tried it today & the pump speed is still slow, like the esc might be junk?! Crap crap crap! :mad:
When I get my DX8 rx replacement from Albert, I'll try that Spektrum radio to improve the model's performanace... if it's possible? :confused:
Also, when I parked the HK last nite, I noticed alot of oil sitting atop the boom cyls, could the seals be toast already?!
Idk? this is a pretty crappy model compared to the german ones... or atleast mine is. I like this model’s range of motion & reach, but the radio & hyd system is garbage! I might have to change it all before I get it working as smoothly as the 850.
Here's a video with the HK 1st, then the Stahl.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KovkRSYJSGQ
After using the 850 virtually everyday for the last month, these two smaller hoes are kinda slow & unresponsive in comparison.
Lil Giants
12-16-2011, 12:05 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/002-5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/003-5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/004-6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/005-4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/006-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/007-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/008-4.jpg
RCLogger
12-16-2011, 01:32 AM
Thanks for the photo's Joe, were you starting to have some electrical problems on the undercarrage ? Also, are the tracks 100 % now with the washers tacked onto the sprockets ?
greg
Lil Giants
12-16-2011, 01:40 AM
I lost power to one of the tracks. You see that black residue on the copper contacts, as well as that black ring? What causes that & will dielectric grease combat it?
Other than that, the u/c has been working perfectly. The tacked on washers to the sprockets are the perfect fit to fill the width of the track link, zero problems skipping a track or foriegn material build up stuck in the links.
Espeefan
12-16-2011, 01:59 AM
Looks like you had some arcing on the contacts, Joe. I wouldn't say that's uncommon. It happens on a lot electrical components. Is that your slew ring? Dielectric grease should cut down on the arcing quite a bit. You could always polish the contacts a little bit too. As they wear in, they'll have better contact, because their surface area will increase.
Lil Giants
12-16-2011, 09:31 PM
Yes, the slip ring that connects the track motors to the house. I put a brass washer under the copper tabs so the tabs press a little harder on the ring... and with the grease added, maybe I never have to take it apart again. :)
This 850 is my all time favorite model to run. :cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7uZQRGZN2A
paul1980
12-17-2011, 03:34 PM
I'd say it's probably a rotary valve Reg, here's some pics from Vario's site. Can't tell you anything more than that.
http://www.vario-earthmovers.com/baubericht/hitachi-zaxis-870-teil-10.html
I ran the HK last nite for an hour Greg, the 1st time in a couple of months, and it really sucks in fluent movement compared to the 850. :rolleyes:
I tried when I 1st got it last July to make the ch mix work via radio menu & couldn't get nothing. Last nite I was gonna try to adjust some of the valves EPA's similar to how I programmed the 850, and couldn't get into the menu settings. And playtime for the HK hoe ended when the lights flickered & then the pump rpm slowed right down... I tried it today & the pump speed is still slow, like the esc might be junk?! Crap crap crap! :mad:
When I get my DX8 rx replacement from Albert, I'll try that Spektrum radio to improve the model's performanace... if it's possible? :confused:
Also, when I parked the HK last nite, I noticed alot of oil sitting atop the boom cyls, could the seals be toast already?!
Idk? this is a pretty crappy model compared to the german ones... or atleast mine is. I like this model’s range of motion & reach, but the radio & hyd system is garbage! I might have to change it all before I get it working as smoothly as the 850.
Here's a video with the HK 1st, then the Stahl.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KovkRSYJSGQ
After using the 850 virtually everyday for the last month, these two smaller hoes are kinda slow & unresponsive in comparison.
Would you not recommend the HK model now you have used it a while? I was looking to order it early next year but might leave it if you say its a bit useless.
Azonic
12-17-2011, 05:56 PM
Joe, do you have a model switch on your radio or do you use 2 radios? I have to get one when spring returns, i want the zwo4 from servonaut but its very expensive, but it fits nice in my radio and it has nice functions, or a cheaper one i can get from CTI, i cant stand to lift my a** everytime i need to change model.
Lil Giants
12-17-2011, 05:58 PM
Idk... the RTR kit as a whole by itself has potential! However, with it's crap radio & crap valves, out of the box it will still work, just not very well... maybe mine is just one of the lemons. From what I've read on the norwegian forum, there's a few owners having similar problems.
It's a great midsized excavator with long reach & high lift that's not overly heavy to cart around. It's a little better suited size wise for 14th scale dump trks than the others like Stahl, Damitz or Liebherrmodell. But I think some addtional funds are necessary to improve the low grade rc gear & hyd system for optium performance.
Somebody is working on a mount to seperate the direct mount motor/pump into a belt drive 3:1 reduction. Plus with a change of radio, I'll go from there.
Lil Giants
12-17-2011, 06:04 PM
I use two radios Kalle. The dump trks don't require much sophistification as the constr models, get by with a radio a third the price.
The model ID switch within these Spektrum radios is like 5 to 10secs. How long does it take to switch the Servonaut system or CTI?
Azonic
12-17-2011, 06:56 PM
I use two radios Kalle. The dump trks don't require much sophistification as the constr models, get by with a radio a third the price.
The model ID switch within these Spektrum radios is like 5 to 10secs. How long does it take to switch the Servonaut system or CTI?
Ok i see, thats one to do it.
Both the servonaut and CTI is by a push of a 2 or 3 pos switch and you have switched model, i like that and the fact that you only need one radio.
paul1980
12-17-2011, 08:09 PM
Idk... the RTR kit as a whole by itself has potential! However, with it's crap radio & crap valves, out of the box it will still work, just not very well... maybe mine is just one of the lemons. From what I've read on the norwegian forum, there's a few owners having similar problems.
It's a great midsized excavator with long reach & high lift that's not overly heavy to cart around. It's a little better suited size wise for 14th scale dump trks than the others like Stahl, Damitz or Liebherrmodell. But I think some addtional funds are necessary to improve the low grade rc gear & hyd system for optium performance.
Somebody is working on a mount to seperate the direct mount motor/pump into a belt drive 3:1 reduction. Plus with a change of radio, I'll go from there.
Thanks for the info/feedback..
Do you have a link for the norwegian forum discussion about it?
pigeonfarmboy
12-18-2011, 02:56 PM
Joe, you ever had any issues with the worm gear swing on the Vario? When the boom is rotating "downhill" it pulses really violently shaking the whole model. Doesn't seem to be a way to adjust the gear mesh? Talking with Izzy and Travis over the weekend, they were thinking the gear reduction might not be low enough. Thinking the heavier grease they use isn't helping much. Worm gears always work better with lighter oil/grease.
egronvold
12-18-2011, 03:34 PM
Thanks for the info/feedback..
Do you have a link for the norwegian forum discussion about it?
www.rclastebil.no/forum
"FrodeS" is the Norwegian rep. As far as I know, the electronics have been changed on the recent deliveries I think they changed the factory putting the machine together as well...
Lil Giants
12-19-2011, 08:28 AM
Thanx for the aid Emil. :)
YEP! I had mega problems with that worm drive, tried many different esc's to correct the problem, but couldn't.
A german friend set me up with a direct mount planetary gearhead motor and that solved all my problems. It's been working perfectly ever since. The only downside is that I had to hack up the body to get the body to sit flush with the floor as the vertical ghmotor is too tall.
I sent him a mail to see what he can do for you.
pigeonfarmboy
12-19-2011, 10:20 PM
The tinkerer in me wants to figure out a way to get it to work. Unfortunately Frank didn't have any helpful ideas/feedback.
Lil Giants
01-02-2012, 11:33 PM
With the xmas/ny's holidays the last few wks, I haven't accomplished much digging. But I did do some rain dancing. :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/011-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202011/016-1.jpg
A slow dribble, maybe a gallon an hour for eight hrs last Friday, got a nice even soak over a large area. It made for sweet digging tonite! Peeled the dirt away like cheese grader. :cool:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/013.jpg
I had to dig on three sides before popping this boulder out... I just luv the power this model has! :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/012.jpg
And a vid of tonite's digging fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT0HNjTvM9s
RCTech9
01-03-2012, 02:29 AM
Nice progress!
SmallHaul
01-03-2012, 10:40 AM
Cool vid Joe, that machine even sounds powerful.
Lil Giants
01-03-2012, 02:45 PM
Thanx guys. With the sound of that pump motor working, I was thinking who needs a sounds system, sounds pretty close to real to me. :D
And another... poor lighting in this one... using the little guy. I think I will replumb this one with .5mm larger hoses & fittings, just a little too slow for liking anymore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UixHVTGSgmk
trucker n
01-03-2012, 07:15 PM
hey joe if its to slow for yah you can always send it my way;)
dsm4g63punk
01-04-2012, 12:23 AM
Holy cow that 850 has some serious power! Your reviews on your RC4WD excavator have been very insightful.
Lil Giants
01-04-2012, 12:35 AM
Thanx & thanx. :)
Hopefully my DX8 rx replacement shows up this wk so I can try a different radio in that HK hoe, maybe make it work a little better.
Don't hold your breath Neil. :D
RCLogger
01-04-2012, 01:02 AM
Good thing you never got the 850 five years ago because you would have put yourself out of work a long time ago..lol
greg
RCTech9
01-04-2012, 01:30 AM
Good thing you never got the 850 five years ago because you would have put yourself out of work a long time ago..lol
greg
At least out of the basement!
Lil Giants
01-05-2012, 07:41 AM
Well... not necessarily Greg, I had intended to take a foot of soil from the floor too. I guess I'll tackle that when I return to the house in 15yrs.
Continuing to make good headway on the wall, pulling up alot of big boulders as well as lots of little rocks too. The "rock saw" idea likely wouldn't have worked too well.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/001-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/004.jpg
This rock is near the wall and there is a much larger rock just in front that I can't budge yet after digging down 3 inches around it. The 850 will pop it out eventually. :cool:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/014.jpg
Gonna have to start screening soon, running out of room down below.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/017.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/016.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhTvRuLPp0c
RCTech9
01-05-2012, 07:06 PM
In a week or 2 you might be able to drive the 850 down to the screener!
Lil Giants
01-06-2012, 03:07 PM
Probably a month T9, I'm going on vacation next wk for ten days. :)
I popped that boulder out finally last nite, it was a lil bigger than the bucket. Got lots of loose soil tore up & stacked atop the wall, push it off later with the dozer or wheel loader... makings for another movie. :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/018.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/022.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/024.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/025.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/026.jpg
This wet clay is gumming up my track pads so they don't articulate properly. Hoping they clean out when the dirt dries. Motors sure have lots of torque to muscle thru the binding and no problems with loosing a track either. :cool:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/028.jpg
I saved this 3 minute video in high definition (80mb/minute), much better clarity than any previous vid I've made. But a ten minute video would be a huge file to upload, it'd turn my 4G into peddle internet again. :eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w39TuUoaU6c
modelman
01-06-2012, 05:17 PM
Hi Joe-I always enjoy watching your videos because as an operator you are so smooth and efficient. And since you have done this so much I'm guessing you get bored with it sometimes but I think it would be great to have a long term project like this. I just have a small pile of dirt in my shop and after about-5-min. of digging with my shovel I get bored. But now I have my truck to load so that may help some but nothing like what you have going on. Your work provides hours of good entertainment.:)
Lil Giants
01-06-2012, 10:07 PM
Thanx Tom, that's what drives me the most about this hobby, workin 'em! :cool:
When they break down I sigh, now I gotta get dirty. :(
Lately I have been down there 4-5hrs every night, but there are times, like last month that I didn't go down there for a couple wks. The ambition comes & goes.
Snochaser
01-07-2012, 10:34 AM
I had been wondering if it was possible with the RC version to move the undercarriage and assist with the boom, stick and swing like when on the 1:1. I figured it wouldn't be easy since you use your feet and two hands.... Nice job Joe.
Ben
Lil Giants
01-09-2012, 10:19 PM
Thanx Ben, but if I had "pedals" to plug into my radio, then I could do it much easier without stopping. :D
I now have the loader on a Spektrum radio capable of ch mixing, but unfortunately the DX6 only has two mixes. The bucket tilt is not mixed with the pump, so I have to use the lift to activate pump... I need atleast the DX7 for three mixes or leave the pump on all the time for fluent control.
2nd half of vid shows the adt stock piling wet lumps in the area I was excavating last winter... the dirt is currently too wet to process thru the crusher, it'll just plug it up. Likely I'll just haul the majority of this stockpile outside when the weather warms up, I should have more than enough dry fines to backfill with when the remaining crib wall is built, hopefully in a few months.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/004-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/005-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/006-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/007-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/008.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/010-1.jpg
http://youtu.be/Ewz5m12RW9A
kcjeepn
01-10-2012, 09:36 AM
This process is a long but well planned show. Great to watch!
Lil Giants
01-11-2012, 02:51 PM
Nothing really planned kcjeepn, I just make it up as I go along. Thanx for the compliment. :)
It's been above seasonal temperatures here for nearly a month, with alot of strong winds out of the south... however yesterday it was in the north & I spent much of the afternoon hauling this wet dirt out! :D
My dirt pile infront of the screener is right below the window opening, so I have to stand back a couple meters from where I normally look, ducking around the furnace duct work & drive blind some of the time. Alls went well, no crashes, got a mountain of dirt out! :cool:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/004-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/005-2.jpg
keep up the good work joe and have fun on your holiday. or is every day a holiday not that you don't have your cow's to wory about.
Lil Giants
01-30-2012, 01:17 AM
I still have other things to do every week, but without cows I can leave for a few days at a time with no worries of finding some one to be here in my absence. ;)
My 1st video using a GoPro camera. Pretty much point & shoot, no zoom, but a wide viewing angle. It must be the 100watt light bulb to my right that has made it look black & white? :confused:
It's nice having a large memory card, edited 36minutes down to 15 for this video. Took a long time to download from camera to puter - 2.1gigs. :eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD6R8AtMJas&feature=youtu.be
hitachi
02-11-2012, 04:18 PM
nice video Joe:)
but if a bossman ever caught me loading a dumper like that id be fired on the spot:p
RCLogger
02-11-2012, 11:13 PM
Another great video Joe. The helmet cam is a good idea. You do have alot of trust in your 2.4 gig radio, one glitch and your Volvo/740 would be over the cliff and in a world of hurt...
That is the shortest haul I have ever seen, hope the operator is only getting paid half his normal wage...lol
Lil Giants
02-12-2012, 09:34 PM
I think I have done a lot of things in the basement mine with the equip that would have gotten me fired in real life hitachi, but don't tell anybody. :D
That DX8 has never glitched Greg. A very fine radio to use & setup for these constr models. ;) ...the shortest haul? you're one of many that have made that very same comment... I never gave it a thought at the time, just what a savings it would be not to drag the dirt twice before sending it over the edge. :)
It seems my photobucket account has been over used lately! The pics I was gonna post today may not appear... it kinda blew my mind to see 9000+ views on my Scale4x4 thread in the last week alone & I've had nearly 50 subs on youtube this wkend, mostly cdn & Sweden. :confused:
Also, I got a PM on Scale from an aussie internet news media wanting to interview me about my basement excavation... don't know why the sudden popularity? :confused:
Last week, I got the pile cleaned up from below the wall.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/002.jpg
Then I piled some dirt high in the opening behind the water heater, what I mined out last winter, make room for more stock piling... I don't want haul out any more dirt till I get the south wall backfilled... wouldn't it be goofy if I had to haul dirt back in? :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/003.jpg
Dribbling some water again last week to soften up the dirt on the wall.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/008.jpg
Was ready to go on the wall again last night when all the sudden I see oil dripping off the bucket. :confused: Turns out I have a small pin hole leak on the backside of the bucket cyl barrel. :(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/009.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/012.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/013.jpg
I go to plumber tomorrow morning to get the right kind of solder necessary for repair and maybe a lesson too to do it correctly. ;)
fhhhstix
02-12-2012, 10:11 PM
Hay Joe looks like you have been taking to many pics.:D
Travis
Azonic
02-13-2012, 03:37 AM
I have soledered i think 2 of my cylinders, one on my excavator and one on the dumper, i used regular solder (what i use to solder deans and wires) and a mapp gas torch on its lowest flame setting, it was quite easy and it fixed the leak on both cyls.
modelman
02-14-2012, 10:14 PM
Hi joe- looks like you are steadily making progress. I have never heard you say before but given the climate you live in, is your basement heated?
titandigs
02-15-2012, 07:51 AM
Hi Joe,
Your models have made news here in Australia.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8419934/man-excavates-basement-using-toys
sneaky-pete
02-15-2012, 08:27 AM
I think the sudden popularity is due to someone posting your basement dig
on dfw mustangs forum.
RCLogger
02-15-2012, 05:28 PM
I am sure someone has asked this question before,
What controls do you use to move your excavator's undercarrage with. Do you switch your controls over and use your joy sticks ?
greg
justinart24
02-17-2012, 02:56 AM
Hi Joe,
Your models have made news here in Australia.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8419934/man-excavates-basement-using-toys
This news site too. Congrats.:D
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/02/canadian-digs-out-basement-using-only.html
Stuff
02-17-2012, 11:40 AM
might as well jump on the train. Joe made the local provincial paper to!
http://www.leaderpost.com/life/6165416.bin?size=620x400s
http://www.leaderpost.com/life/Saskatchewan+getting+hands+dirty+sort/6165414/story.html
RAIDERS
02-17-2012, 06:01 PM
Congrats on all ur fame...great job..
steamer
02-17-2012, 07:08 PM
Hey Joe, you can't please them all, but you sure as heck please a lot of people here.
Thanks Rob
Stuff
02-18-2012, 12:55 AM
you also made Technabob
http://www.news.com.au/technology/canadian-joe-murray-excavates-his-basement-with-rc-earthmovers-in-just-nine-years/story-e6frfro0-1226270731287
And the Toronto Star
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1133173--dig-this-toys-used-to-excavate-basement-in-seven-year-project
and carscoop. seems they really love you there lol
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/02/meet-joe-man-who-excavated-his-basement.html
Just dont let the spot light go to your head!! :P j/k
Michael S
02-18-2012, 04:11 AM
You are also in Denmark, lost of newsmagasines online and a 20 sek clip in the evningnews in prime time friday
Lil Giants
02-18-2012, 09:24 PM
Thank you for all the praise and encouragement my friends, much appreciated & duely noted! :cool:
My phone finally went silent today, but email is still going nuts!
I think I'll go wind down in the basement tonite, I haven't been there all week!
Cheers
Construction
02-18-2012, 10:03 PM
Very cool. You made a lot of the news sites and paper. Congrats!
Also, what scale are your models?
doodlebug
02-18-2012, 11:07 PM
Thank you for all the praise and encouragement my friends, much appreciated & duely noted! :cool:
My phone finally went silent today, but email is still going nuts!
I think I'll go wind down in the basement tonite, I haven't been there all week!
Cheers
Withdrawl symptom's:eek::p:D
You've officially had your "15 minute's of fame" Great to see some positive coverage:cool:
Cheer's, Neil.
Lil Giants
02-20-2012, 10:39 PM
Tom, I don't have heat that blows directly into the basement, but being below ground level and with the diesel fueled furnance (it's right behind me where I'm digging right now), the chimney & duct work throughout give off a bit of heat to keep it maybe +15C (not quite room temp). The video I posted a month ago or so, I was wearing a lined coat b/c it was -25C outside most of that week, which made it a bit chilly down there.
Construction, the scale is 1/14th.
Neil, I shot some video last night where I nearly fell off the wall with the 850 so close to the edge, I got lost in the controls with the tracks (takes 3 switches on this DX8 to make them work), had to quickly set the tx down and grabbed the model.. a week off from running the 850 and I loose my touch. :eek:
Thank you again for the well wishes fellows.. no worries of it going to my head, I'm looking forward to getting back to my ordinary life of enjoying my hobby with you all. :)
I did manage to fix my cyl Monday night, although it didn't hold... I prepped the surface, cleaned with laquer thinner to get the surface oil free, used flux paste, solder for copper plumbing (Frank's recommendation for best stuff) and a good sized butane torch... the soldered just balled up & fell off. I tried the electrical solder I normally use for wiring, same problem.
I then switched to using my soldering iron and cranked the temperature to high. That worked, although kinda messy, the solder still didn't flow/liquify into the joint. The solder kinda stuck on like smearing dried up play-do.
Why did the solder ball up with the torch? Too hot, not hot enough?
After connecting cyl to model again & pressuring up, there was a slight bit of an oil film seeping.. and then it quit.
After 3 batt packs yesterday & today, it let go again and now the cyl is back on my workbench for round two.
(I really hate doing things twice! which is why I suck at scratchbuilding & buy somebody else's work)
modelman
02-20-2012, 11:13 PM
Joe-on your cylinder,my guess is that it wasn't clean and could have been too hot. Cleanliness is usually the problem. If you can get your hands on "sta-brite" silver solder it comes with acid flux and is low heat. If you get it really clean I think that will hold. My truck bed is steel and it is put together with the "sta-brite" and I have abused it quite severely just when sanding and grinding and finishing on it.
ihbuilder
02-21-2012, 12:38 AM
dirty joint most likely residue from laquer thiner or oil residue that didn't come off . A little trick I learned cleaning oil off completely is use either (cold weather starting fluid ) dissolves oil real good ;) . another thing , I'm sure you took the cylider all apart before soldering :)
doodlebug
02-21-2012, 12:33 PM
I like "brake cleaner" also known as toluene aka paint thinner.
Cheer's, Neil.
mack kid
02-21-2012, 06:19 PM
All good but dont know if plumber told you(didnt see it mentioned) to sand it too. need to get oxidation off.
9W Monighan
02-21-2012, 06:44 PM
Always thoroughly clean oxidation off. Degrease then clean with SS wire brush , steel wool, or Scotch Bright pad. Preheat, flux,solder. Since you said you're using plumbers solder 50/50? 60/40? The new Antimony Tin Silver stuff is a bit tricky to get a good flow. Flux: use No Corrode solder paste (the brownish stuff) No brainer.
Heavy Metal Doctor
02-22-2012, 07:24 PM
Joe, Your 15 minutes of fame isn't over......
Whatever articles / stories where done ( I didn't bother to read them since I'm on here) have spread to every website of all of my other interests and I see new posting every day....I try to "enlighten" the unkowing bashers when I can.....
Lil Giants
02-23-2012, 07:33 PM
I found time this morning to try to solder it again after a thorough cleaning, sanding, ether cleaning, I tried everybody's tricks except the brake cleaner & special flux.. I ended with the same results again with both the torch & the soldering iron.. mind blowing!
I gobbed quite a bit on with the iron, sanded it down to make it look not quite as ugly.. if it blows out again on me, then I'll just take it to the local machinist in town here and get a proper lesson. That guy can weld anything; I've learned stick hard surfacing, mig, silver solder from him in the past.
My biggest problem I think is that I don't weld often enough, so I never develop the skill well enough to retain the knowledge to do it correctly.
I'm thinking that there has to be something else going here... maybe the original weld is not solder.. I don't know!
I'll install it tonite, work the snott out of it & see how long it lasts! ;)
Thank you HMD, much appreciated! :cool: There has been alot misinformation floating around about me & my hobby the last couple weeks... I wish it would end, I'm tired of it! It's been taking up too much of my personal time. Somebody else deserves to be in the spotlight now, there are many others who build far more detailed models than I & they should be recognized too for their efforts & contributions to this fine hobby we all enjoy & work at together. ;)
ihbuilder
02-23-2012, 08:42 PM
Joe I'm thinking the original weld/solder joint is not clean . maybe some residual coolent from the machining :confused:
JAMMER
02-23-2012, 08:49 PM
Joe only a suggestion nut if you have a radiator shop around that would be the place to take it they deal with all kinds of soldering jobs even aluminum. That were I took my cylinder and they did a great job at a reasonable price considering they had to put on 2 ends and the metal line that goes from the front to the back of the cylinder. Ed
Lil Giants
02-24-2012, 12:45 AM
I soaked the cyl in thinner over night, blew it thoroughly with pressurized air & soaked it again to try to get any impurities out of the joint. Blew it dry this morning and began prep work with sanding, ect... I just know it's something stupid. :confused:
That's another good idea Ed, if the local machinist is swamped, I'll check there next.
A vid from Sunday night, nothing new to see, the 850 back on the wall ripping & digging... Luving it! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aGh834LqFs
Lil Giants
02-28-2012, 03:01 AM
I've been burning up the charges the last 3 nights carving away at the wall.. by the time it's time to leave the wall to deal with the dirt below, I'll be driving off - down the pile, not far from the floor now! :cool:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/008-1.jpg
Although, time for a little bit of service at end of shift tonite, this track got clogged up with packed clay inside the links causing some binding issues. A few times, the way the track was twisting over the idler & drive sprocket I thought it was on the brink of skipping off! The excessive tightness in the track doesn't fiz on the torque of the drive motors at all.. oodles of power with these new track drives! :cool:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/006-2.jpg
Soak the track in the kitchen sink for ten minutes melts the clay away. ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/005-3.jpg
The other track still on the machine, I dripped a bit of blue lock-tite on each wrist pin when upgrading to the new track drives last November, they're all still in place. This side the pins are sliding out.. looks like experiment is a success.. although I haven't tried knocking any of them pins out that lock-tite'd :thinking:, shouldn't be a problem with some force! :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/012-1.jpg
Third time was the charm trying to solder my leaky cylinder, the laquer thinner was the culprit for the solder balling up & falling off. Once I washed the cylinder down with brake/electrical cleaner, then the solder flowed no problem and I used my acetylene/oxygen with the smallest tip for the heat source.. several hrs later & it's still not leaking! :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/003-1.jpg
I got a few other pieces sitting on the bench waiting for me to tear down for repairs.. the dozer, right track frame popped off drive motor, probably in need of a new machined mount.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/001-2.jpg
The GL dump trk, I think the middle axle might have a tooth missing in the crown gear, something is clicking causing a skip or maybe it's the rear axle.. 50/50/90 Rule - what's the wager I tear down the wrong axle 1st?! :p
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/002.jpg
TRUCKMAKER
02-28-2012, 07:59 PM
Hi Joe, I don't know if you heard but WBBM, Chicago talk radio was discussing your basement dig today. My wife listens to the station and came home and said "guess what I heard On the radio", she said they got a lot of call ins from hobbyists in support of the project and in the hobby in general. She also felt the DJ's didn't know alot about what was going and weren't very serious, and she wonders why we don't listen to that station when I'm in the Jeep. Keep up the good work, its fun to watch!
Kent
,
Lil Giants
02-29-2012, 12:50 AM
Was that AM780 talk radio? What's the name of the program? I was googling to try to find a podcast of it..
Yeah Kent, that doesn't surprise me that the DJ's were trying to make a comedy special of it... that's what the last two weeks has been like, whether it was talk radio or answering articles for newspapers & online, the general misconception is "man playing with toys in his basement for 15yrs". It was a bizarre story that everyone wanted to report.. rather than it was an unusual new hobby that many others might like to know more about & get involved with.
TOY bulldozers & Toy trucks... "don't you think they are more efficient ways to renovate your basement?", was the most often asked question I got. People who don't have, don't do hobbies don't get it! Simply put. All they see is "toys normally for kids and this adult playing with them".
They're clueless to the complicacy & intricacy involved in the creation of these minature models and fail to realise the sophisicated machinery & highly skilled tradesmen that this hobby demands to not only design a high quality, durable product, but also the high skill of an individual it takes to assemble & fine tune the model to perfect working order... not something the average 10yr old could slap together to take to his backyard sandbox.
I didn't do a very good job of explaining that the last couple weeks.. I'm not a public speaker (verbally) & got caught completely unprepared with the publicity.. about the time I calmed down and overlooked ppl's short jokes towards my hobby & my private life as an individual and focused moreso on explaining what the hobby involved.. too late, the media moved on.
However, I may have a 2nd chance this summer, there's a couple of TV news & documentary programs that have been quite adamant to get me on camera.. I told them I'd talk to them again in July.. I'd think about it awhile. I can show them the numerous parts in a kit, the mechanical, electrical & hydraulic components necessary to build a powerful & functional model. ;)
fhhhstix
02-29-2012, 08:43 PM
I kinda know what you mean Joe. When the guys I work with found out about my hobby they thought I was just playing with toys. So one day I took a couple of trucks and a kit to work and showed them, then they stopped kidding me about playing with toys and now ask about whats new on my work bench and ask for pics. It is surprising the turn around people have once they see them and understand the complexity of our hobby.
Travis
ihbuilder
02-29-2012, 09:32 PM
"It is surprising the turn around people have once they see them and understand the complexity of our hobby."
for some it's that way , others still think we're just playing with toys :confused: I lothe that term " Toys " when it comes to these models :confused: they actually can be very usefull in real life . take dragline world for instance , I beleive I read correctly , that they do some training on those models . It gives a miniture real life experiance as opposed to a simulator .
Lil Giants
02-29-2012, 09:49 PM
The aussie radio talk media was pretty cool about it, but 4 minutes wasn't enough time to even get a mention of this forum over the air... :( The germans, well they invented this hobby for all of us and have been very kind with their remarks, though I still saw the word toys mentioned in the article. The cdn media has been very disappointing...
Although I did do a phone interview with some one from the Weather Network in Toronto this morning.. she'll write the article, then send to me to edit, then post it online.. so a better chance for proper info will be posted this time.
Any fellow co workers pick up the hobby since your "show & tell" Travy?
A vid from last night showing a big boulder the size of a car (a scale sized car that is :p) that I dug up with the 850. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXxc1aaZi0E
Lil Giants
02-29-2012, 09:55 PM
I saw that idea float around on quite a few forums Stevie, after ppl read about our hobby, as well as indepth discussion of remote construction processes on the moon & Mars.. a bit beyond my realm of imagination though. :D
ihbuilder
02-29-2012, 10:34 PM
My problem is getting use to not being in the seat with the model . but then I spend a lot of time building then running them :( I hope to change that soon I got plans for coaling the furnace with the loader and Mack :D spring is on the way but I got some house work to finish before I start my mini RR construction off my silo .
Lil Giants
03-01-2012, 12:40 AM
My problem is getting use to not being in the seat with the model ..
It's funny to hear you say that...
An oil company just finnished putting in a 4" natural gas line just a mile north of my farm where it ended after 18miles of construction from a treater. At one time there was 11 track hoes working, all within a mile of each other, I was sitting on a hill watching them a couple different afternoons.
I spoke to one of the operators briefly, told him about my hobby and he later stopped by after work. The controls on my radio are the same as the Hitachi 230 model he was running, so I gave him the radio remote to my 850 right away.. you should have seen it! He was chasing the model hoe around, he couldn't make it work without standing behind it.. 15yr operator! :D
ihbuilder
03-01-2012, 12:59 AM
yea ,I was in the operator seat since I was 10 . I started on a koering 6605 in 1987 . I'll have to post a pic of that lil excavator (14000 hrs on it ) they're the biggest 1's we have anymore :( I miss my 307 cat :( with practice , I'll get there ;) I got to build mine 1st though :rolleyes:
TRUCKMAKER
03-01-2012, 08:50 PM
Was that AM780 talk radio? What's the name of the program? I was googling to try to find a podcast of it..
Yeah Kent, that doesn't surprise me that the DJ's were trying to make a comedy special of it... that's what the last two weeks has been like, whether it was talk radio or answering articles for newspapers & online, the general misconception is "man playing with toys in his basement for 15yrs". It was a bizarre story that everyone wanted to report.. rather than it was an unusual new hobby that many others might like to know more about & get involved with.
TOY bulldozers & Toy trucks... "don't you think they are more efficient ways to renovate your basement?", was the most often asked question I got. People who don't have, don't do hobbies don't get it! Simply put. All they see is "toys normally for kids and this adult playing with them".
They're clueless to the complicacy & intricacy involved in the creation of these minature models and fail to realise the sophisicated machinery & highly skilled tradesmen that this hobby demands to not only design a high quality, durable product, but also the high skill of an individual it takes to assemble & fine tune the model to perfect working order... not something the average 10yr old could slap together to take to his backyard sandbox.
I didn't do a very good job of explaining that the last couple weeks.. I'm not a public speaker (verbally) & got caught completely unprepared with the publicity.. about the time I calmed down and overlooked ppl's short jokes towards my hobby & my private life as an individual and focused moreso on explaining what the hobby involved.. too late, the media moved on.
However, I may have a 2nd chance this summer, there's a couple of TV news & documentary programs that have been quite adamant to get me on camera.. I told them I'd talk to them again in July.. I'd think about it awhile. I can show them the numerous parts in a kit, the mechanical, electrical & hydraulic components necessary to build a powerful & functional model. ;)
Yes it was AM780 Talk radio but she didn't catch the name of the program. I agree with "they'll never get it". Heck they'd really lose it if they new how many people on this and some of the other forums from around the world would give our left one thing to come to your basement and "play" with our "toys". :p:p:D:cool:
Keep on Diggin'
Kent
Espeefan
03-02-2012, 02:44 AM
Take heart, Joe. It's a hobby and past time, just like everything else we do for fun. This hobby is not so much different then model railroading, and look how often outsiders call that hobby 'playing with toy trains'. It doesn't help the fact either, that there really are some toy trains, and then there are some genuine scale models of trains. The difference is significant, but the uneducated people really don't know any better. The guys who collect the toy trains are fine with the term toy (because they know they are toys), but if you called an HO scale modeler's super detailed locomotive the same thing, he'd be offended.
In the same way, this scale modeling facite of the hobby really is unique and shares very little in common with the other radio controlled models out there. And because it's still so new to North America, most people might not understand the level of engineering that goes into replicating a functional scale piece of equipment. They aren't really toys, but miniature scale machines. They work the same way, function the same way, look the same way, but are just on a smaller scale. Eventually people may figure it out, but maybe the best way to prove it all of the sudden is to just tell them how much a good excavator costs, and that should dispell the thought of these things being toys.
Anyway Joe, I wouldn't worry to much about what the outsiders think. One just has to look at your youtube videos and see how popular they are among those who really know the hobby. I think your videos do a much better job of promoting the hobby then anything else out there.
Lil Giants
03-03-2012, 02:59 AM
Yeah, I know I'm being a Suck, licking my wounds from the last couple weeks.. within a day or so of it beginning, I made the mistake of googling my name, username and man digs basement to figure out where all the misinformation started.. reading the comments on various forums & blogs along way.. I'd say 99% was very positive & the 1%er's cut deep with their remarks.. a couple of internet cowards had the nerve to link this hobby with pedophilia.. that made me very defensive from then on while discussing my hobby with the world media!
Anyways, I thought I'd share a little bit of my experience of it all with the rest of you so when the spotlight shines on you, you won't get rattled like I did. ;)
On a different note.. I betcha you can't guess what THIS IS?! :D (I've got two more boxes to show up)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/001-3.jpg
elliot330
03-03-2012, 05:12 AM
On a different note.. I betcha you can't guess what THIS IS?! :D (I've got two more boxes to show up)
Fantastic... I knew it wouldn't be long!!! :D But i'm confused? The tyres are from the 50 or 4206 but as there are 6 esc's I'm thinking 50, but they are brushess, so now I'm thinking 40. I'm confused :-)
doodlebug
03-03-2012, 05:53 AM
Is it an articulated dumptruck chassis being converted to scraper duty?
Cheer's, Neil.
ihbuilder
03-03-2012, 10:03 AM
Hmm , I'm thinking a 6 x 6 hual tractor with some bottom dumps ?
doodlebug
03-03-2012, 02:35 PM
Ooooh, the suspense:eek::p:D
Cheer's, Neil.
hitachi
03-03-2012, 06:08 PM
my guess is the Bell ADT to match the deere 850:D
footprint
03-03-2012, 08:28 PM
Is it a snow cone maker?, how about a water heater?
http://youtu.be/3B7HG8_xbDw#t=1m43s
Mobile cement mixer? need a floor soon.
doodlebug
03-03-2012, 11:08 PM
Ooooooh, I know:eek::p:o "A Turbo Encabulator":D:D
Cheer's, Neil.
Lil Giants
03-04-2012, 02:28 AM
Whatever it is it'll have to wait, Number 1 is in dire need of attention! :p
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/016-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/008-2.jpg
Pump started getting noisy last wkend, the bearing in this support is toast!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/006-3.jpg
The whole top end here needs a bath! Tear it all down, clean it, shorten wires and mount electronics permanent, I got it working the way I want it to. Got to fit everything better so I can get the hood to sit flush.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/007-2.jpg
Got a mountain of dirt to clear away!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/017-1.jpg
I was hoping to get all the way across with this 6 inch cut before leaving the wall, but the right track went dead, a set screw somewhere in the powertrain lost its grip! I did make a movie crippling it down with one functional track, but I didn't position the lighting correctly & the dark shadows make some it hard to see. :( It took nearly an hour to shape shift dirt to do it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/018-1.jpg
doodlebug
03-04-2012, 05:18 AM
Bummer on the breakdown, hope you get it back up and digging soon!
I've moved full size hoes with a dead track, not fun at all.
Cheer's, Neil.
elliot330
03-04-2012, 06:52 AM
Is it a snow cone maker?, how about a water heater?
http://youtu.be/3B7HG8_xbDw#t=1m43s
Very good :D
Espeefan
03-04-2012, 03:12 PM
I'm guessing an articulated dump truck as well. Those made by Fumotec are really nice.
Lil Giants
03-04-2012, 07:25 PM
Took about an hour to strip it down.. my hands are black! :eek:
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I sent Frank a mail for his thoughts.. (funny guy :D)
"Congratulations, i´m 100% shure that your model is the first that move 4 cubic of such a hard clay, normaly people just “play” with ther models. And congratulations as whell, youre the first that gets the pump unit fall in pieces, your my product tester! No, just joking a bit, it´s really interesting for me, what can happens if you really use the machine."
The bit of good luck with the 1 box arriving Friday is that it has another pump assembly in it, I can rob the bearings from it and get my hoe back together in a couple hrs. ;)
Here's a part 1 of descending off the wall last night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7b4z106dC8
cbazq271
03-04-2012, 10:59 PM
Hi, I have a quick question. I have the same Ex. and I see that your swing motor set-up is different them mine. I have a geared motor with a wormdrive on it to run the swing gear. Yours has a geared motor directly running the swing gear. Is this the way your Ex came or is this something you changed yourself? I ask because with the worm set-up I have, when the hoe is off level at all, the swing is not smooth. It just is not that good of a set-up. I though about running a set-up like you have. Thanks, Chad
doodlebug
03-04-2012, 11:29 PM
Hey Joe, is there room to "double up" the outboard support bearing on the pump??? Just curious as usual.
Chad, Joe did change the swing motor, I think it's mentioned, earlier in this thread. Not sure which page?
Cheer's, Neil.
Espeefan
03-05-2012, 01:13 AM
Wow, you really destroyed that bearing! I kind of wonder what caused the failure. Dirt, to much tension on the belt, or maybe just plain wore it out? If dirt was the case, maybe a rubber sealed bearing would be better? I'd hate to say run a bushing instead, but I don't think you'd wear one of those out so quick.
Lil Giants
03-08-2012, 07:17 PM
cbazq271, I had a terrible time with my swing drive.. there's a proper way to set up a worm drive system & I didn't know it at the time.. I tried afterward, but I think I ruined my gears already & couldn't get it to work anyway.
Frank had this prototype vertical direct mount that he sent me to try & that solved all my violent pulsating problems.
PFB complained of the same problem and his hoe was built by Vario..
With my latest goodies from Fumotec I got three of these vertical swing drives for my fellow hobbyists in north america who have one of these Vario 850's.. it requires some machining on your part, the output shaft of the vertical motor is smaller diameter than the pinion gear and too short as well. You will have to make a steel bushing/longer shaft to connect pinion directly on motor.
PFB is welcome to one, you can have one cbazq and one left yet. They cost me 45 euro, you can PP me $60usd + shipping, PM me your address. I'll get it out to you next week sometime.
I think my problem with that bearing on the pump Neil & Nathan is perhaps the bearing slipped out of place a wee bit & was rubbing on the belt pulley.. friction = heat -> cooked the bearing.
I lock-tite the new bearing in place and shimmed the support plate out a bit too.
850 is back together and working fine. :)
elliot330
03-09-2012, 12:19 AM
Hey Joe, now the hoe is all sorted... whats in the box :D
JAMMER
03-09-2012, 07:25 AM
Joe that swing seems to work a lot better. I watch your video and the way you were setting my machine would not work. It did it at the show in York Pa. I have not done anything with it sense then but I am going to change the lines over the stick and put new shafts in the drive units with screw in pins were the set screws are then they can't turn unless they brake the pins. Ed
Lil Giants
03-09-2012, 06:06 PM
You don't need new shafts Ed, just machine flat spots where your set screws grip. Drilling a hole for a set screw pin might weaken the shafts to twist off/break at the holes.
Here's pic showing the hole I had to cut in the 850 body b/c the vertical mount motor being too tall.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/001-5.jpg
I'll get you some more pics tomorrow or Sunday for you to tilt your head & wonder Elliot. :p :D
ihbuilder
03-09-2012, 06:46 PM
Joe , whats the thickness of the main structure plate , 3mm or 4mm ? Just curious :o
doodlebug
03-10-2012, 04:21 AM
Glad to hear it's fixed! Gotta luv that Locktite stuff!
Cheer's, Neil.
Lil Giants
03-10-2012, 06:38 AM
5mm thickness Steve.
elliot330
03-10-2012, 01:04 PM
I'll get you some more pics tomorrow or Sunday for you to tilt your head & wonder Elliot. :p :D
Yes please Joe, you gave us that little teaser and then you've gone on cold on me! ;)
ihbuilder
03-10-2012, 06:30 PM
thank you Joe ;) you know I'm itchin :rolleyes: every time I run Rods at a meet :eek: I'm getting use to running the rc 1 :) It was a lot easier today .
Lil Giants
03-10-2012, 07:19 PM
Did Nathan bring out his 850 for you to run too Steve? Or is the JD controls beyond your realm of thinking? :p :D
This is what I built today Elliot from pre cut pieces Frank sent me.. :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/001-6.jpg
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RCTech9
03-10-2012, 08:32 PM
Awesome! Looks like your regular bucket needs another coat of paint!
RCLogger
03-10-2012, 08:36 PM
Looks like it would take a few hours to wear those buckets out Joe ! They must weight a few pounds..
greg
Lil Giants
03-11-2012, 12:25 AM
Not that heavy at all Greg.. it's all made from 20guage. ;)
Most of it is still there yet RT9. :p
I made the steel bushings in my lathe to fit the 6mm rod.. weld in the bushings & front rod tomorrow, then paint 'em both.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/001-7.jpg
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The GP bucket is 50% larger than the kit stock bucket, almost as wide as the 740 box.
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I wondered after making such a big bucket if it might be too big.. but even with the hoe sitting at a tilt, a bucket full didn't even make the outside track jiggle. (I filled the counter weight full of BB's last week, didn't weigh it though)
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ihbuilder
03-11-2012, 05:29 AM
No :( Apparently he's having swing issues with the worm set up :( . I did like Ed's when I ran it at cabin fever :eek: world of difference in hydro setup . I just realized I got a small precision casting co down the street from me . They cast a broad range of mtrl. : cast iron , steel , brass , alum ,etc . My wheels are turning ;) and with some hydros on the way , who knows :rolleyes: . The buckets look great . you should have that pile outa there in no time with the right size truck ;)
tullochgorum
03-11-2012, 07:05 AM
Looks good Joe, the bigger bucket will speed things up before the spring time rush. springs not that far away now and the dust will be flying soon.
Steve.
Lil Giants
03-17-2012, 12:48 AM
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The paint is not lasting long.. I used a metal etching primer too!
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I made a couple vids this week..
Travis & IHStevie, pay close attention to the wheel speed of the front vs back tires of the Komatsu when it's back blading from the pile at low throttle with the front axle in the air. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GDwB-EeyWo
850 screening the wet lumps, then the adt stock piling the wet lumps behind the water heater.. had to use the board to climb the pile, trying to climb loose soil that steep, the adt just digs a hole.. getting it piled quite high back there.
http://youtu.be/15xwKUVjyBw
This big bucket is about 50% larger than kit stock.. move alot dirt quickly, especially from the far wall where it's quite a confined area to maneuver within.
http://youtu.be/PvlvZXwxIqo
doodlebug
03-17-2012, 09:57 AM
Hey Joe, It amazes me, how abrasive clay really is! You may just have a super shiney bucket in no time at all.
Cheer's, Neil.
ihbuilder
03-17-2012, 10:08 AM
"Travis & IHStevie, pay close attention to the wheel speed of the front vs back tires of the Komatsu when it's back blading from the pile at low throttle with the front axle in the air. " :confused:
I not sure what your trying to prove here :confused: if it goes to the gear motor verse diff. drive train argument . yes , it works very well from what I can see . from a model production stand point , it makes sense to use gear motors (less parts to make ) travy and I are NOT mass producing . If I were to , I'd go gear motors to . having said that , I think it's foolish to compare a personal built model to a mass produced model If you want to compare wedico to stal , you got a case thats apples to apples . Yes , I thought about it , but the need to escape from truck part making , put the brakes on that idea ;) .
OTOH , great job on your buckets . I always said ," an excavator is worthless with a small bucket in mass excavation " I had a 4' bucket on my Cat 307 (16,000# machine) As always I enjoy watching your vids :)
tullochgorum
03-17-2012, 10:21 AM
Hello Joe,
That was some fine loader work in the video, nice control and very realistic looking. You can tell from seeing the loader work that there are hours of experience behind the sticks.
Steve.
RCTech9
03-17-2012, 12:34 PM
Your loader sure can move a lot of material in 15 minutes!!!:eek: Awesome videos! Are you going to paint the cylinders on the 850?
Lil Giants
03-17-2012, 10:33 PM
Sorry but I completely disagree without 4 escs you have no way to make true 4wd.
Travis
Sorry Stevie, I guess I was moreso http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt003.gif with Travey. :D
wdc to Stahl is not apples to apples... http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/stop.gif
Well, different buckets for different jobs. That wide bucket with it's straight cutting edge will be great for grading as well. And I'm eagerly looking forward to trying that narrow bucket to dig on the wall, might be a lot less use of the ripper before hand. ;)
Thanx Steve.. yes, many hrs of practice & enjoyment. :cool:
One of these days yep RT9, I'll probably brush paint them black while still attach to the model.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/003-5.jpg
ihbuilder
03-17-2012, 11:36 PM
Well I really can not say much for either , I don't have them or run them :rolleyes: the diff / gear motor argument will go on forever . IMHO , wedico could've put a little more thought into the drive train . Leibherr model's 2plus2 seems to be well thought out . Yea I could just use gear motors /wheel in my models and make life easier :confused: . But , I love the challenge to get as close to real as possible and function well also . You should do well digging with the little bucket ;) . You may still need the ripper for the occasional rock .
Lil Giants
03-25-2012, 02:10 PM
So I put my tireless working 6wd GL on the workbench for a tune up..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/001-8.jpg
Added some weight to the front axle, and added an extra fuel packed full of BB's, transfer more of that power to the ground!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/003-6.jpg
Off to the basement for a trial.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/005-6.jpg
The white GL pulled the B Train up the ramp with open diffs with very little slippage, but the HiTec 625 steering servo couldn't handle the extra weight hanging out in front of it & caused the rx to glitch like crazy whenever I tried to turn sharply. So I then installed a HiTec 645, as well as Castle Creations BEC.. these Tamiyas are so easy to work on. :)
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Testing it out on the bench, trying to go forward and the shift servo glitched crazily! didn't matter where I plugged the CC BEC rx lead into.. junked the Polk radio from this trk and used my extra DX8 rx.. trk is working better than it has ever before! Very smooth! Love these Spektrum radios. :cool:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc4EmuKaL
trucker n
03-25-2012, 03:53 PM
so joe where is this new machine you got in a box from frank:D
pumptech
03-25-2012, 05:41 PM
Hey Joe ,that wieght bar should give you some nice grip on the front:cool:
I used some small used and worn out carbide seats I use in the pumps I work on at work ,in my bruder excavator for counterwieghts,works great!
Keep up the great work !!:D
Tommy
Cossett
03-25-2012, 07:41 PM
Joe your a inspiration to everyone that is looking to get into the construction gear, thanks for sharing the pic's and info...
When you start doing the next round of servicing on the construction gear can you do a side by side comparison the good and bad of each piece in a new thread if you haven't done it yet???
doodlebug
03-25-2012, 10:57 PM
Hey Joe, Can't get the video to work:(
Have you considered a combination ripper/bucket? http://leattach.com/raptorbucket.html :D:D:D
I like the heavy bumper:D Will there be some shed's moved with the globeliner soon?:p:eek::D
Cheer's, Neil.
Lil Giants
03-25-2012, 11:11 PM
Still in the box Neil.. might start working on it this summer after the crop is planted. :D
Yes it is working very well Tommy, better than having servo lockable rear diffs in the past.
Thank you and your welcome Tracy.. what specifically would you like to know?
Lil Giants
03-25-2012, 11:23 PM
Interesting design Neil.. one problem I see for me making this in scale would be that it might pack with clay too easily.. find out here shortly if the narrow bucket I just made will empty good or just build up with wet sticky clay.
It was working.. here's another link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc4EmuKaL-0&list=UUrmuc-WDTBiqMGma7bs5Z3g&index=1&feature=plcp
Might add three more bd's sometime in the future..
doodlebug
03-26-2012, 03:26 AM
Ok, I'll work on another idea for you later tonight!
Cheer's, Neil.
RCLogger
03-26-2012, 12:27 PM
You are moving many scale yards of dirt each load Joe... Any idea how many pounds in each trailer ? Very impressive ! !
greg
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