LilGiantsConstrCo

[doodlebug]

Hey Joe, Infomation overload!
http://leattach.com/multiripperbucket.htm
http://leattach.com/dignrip.htm
http://leattach.com/multiripperhicapbucket.htm
http://leattach.com/stagbucket.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dITT4uu9VYc
http://www.kenco.com/SLASHBLADE.html
http://www.werk-brau.com/VLineStrataRockFrostSevereDutyBuckets.aspx
http://www.mainlinetrack.co.nz/400mm-spade-bucket/
http://www.mainlinetrack.co.nz/jb-spade-bucket/ Or put a spade nose on a regular bucket and vary the digging angle for agressiveness.
20 year's ago, there used to be single shank ripper's, that slipped in a "pocket" welded to the back of the bucket, removable and usable. Have'nt seen any for a while.
I guess the vegas trip's are coming in handy!

Cheer's, Neil.

[Lil Giants]

Not sure Greg.. stock bucket, lead trl is 5 buckets & pup is 7 buckets.. I crushed the last of it last night, next time around I'll try loading a pail with 12 scoops and weight it. ;)

Alot of interesting designs there Neil, it'd be great to get those style of teeth in scale form.

I tried my narrow bucket today, didn't work as well as I hoped... more experimenting.. two teeth on the edges or just one in the middle (too bad I welded them in :()

I carved an entry ramp into the wall and the 850 climbed back onto the wall itself. :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkjnLlnkfkg&feature=youtu.be

[Lil Giants]

I got a sweet accessory for my JD850 from Kalle (Azonic), something he designed & had some one cnc for him. It's available through him.


http://youtu.be/joVwkzzmeZM

[Azonic]

Thanks for sharing Joe, great video!

Does it take 7 secs to engage the coupler?

[FlyingBeagle]

Very cool, I bet that is a prety good time saver for you.

[doodlebug]

Way to go Joe:D:D:D I like the coupler! I have to put up with a manual one on my Cat 305CCR. I seldomly use the ripper, more than 5 minute's at a time.
Alway's swapping attachment's:p

I'll have to think about teeth and get back to you.

I counted 17 attachment's for both the hoe and skidsteer today, still don't have enough:eek:LOL!

Is that the go pro camera on your hoe? Take's nice video!

Cheer's, Neil.

[Lil Giants]

Kalle, I'm counting to myself (1001, 1002..), maybe I'm counting too fast. :confused:

Not sure if it is FB, it's a bit of a knack to line up just right and the ripper has no mass or weight to it and will tip over easy.. I usually toss that on by hand. :D

I used my narrow bucket quite a bit last night Neil, works a little better for carving against the wall than the stock bucket, but I still can't help much with that V shape off the wall.. gotta make some side cutters next! Is there a rule of thumb at what degree they come off the side or anything else?

Yes it is a GoPro. ;)

[Lil Giants]

So I made these side cutters this afternoon.. are they too big? :confused:

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[fhhhstix]

They might work but an 1/8 in plate bolted flat to the bucket with the edge ground to a 60 deg angle would be closer to scale.


Travis

[doodlebug]

Hey Joe, the side cutter's that I use a little bit flatter than your's, but go for it and have fun! As for teeth, I'm still scratching my head, I wonder if a split shank could be soft soldered on? With the size capscrew's on your sidecutter's, they may work for bolt on teeth like what skidesteer bucket's use. http://thomasnet56.reachlocal.net/viewitems/gehl/gehl-teeth? http://www.constructionattachments.com/products/acc_bolt_on_teeth.html http://www.augerteethonline.com/bucket4.htm
Single sided teeth, silver solder may hold better than soft solder. I'm still trying to figure out something tougher than key stock for making teeth? Just like Karate Kid, torch on-torch off, LOL. Need more idea's, Just ask, & I'll try to help.

Cheer's, Neil.

[doodlebug]

Hey Joe, picture's of the sidecutter's and one of the bucket's that I modified,
The outside shank's are out too far. And the sidecutter's won't work because of it. I'll know better, next time I change teeth and shank's on a trackhoe bucket. I remove alot of concrete, so I upgraded to bigger backhoe shank's.
Yes Travis, those are Cat DRS 230 series shank's-420 backhoe.

Cheer's, Neil.

[Lil Giants]

My side cutters are sorta working to trim the side of the wall, but would have worked better as I was digging the base, I have more hyd power than swing & the hoe isn't heavy enough to take side loads.

Perhaps I'll give a go with your 1/8 plate idea Travy on my stock bucket for cutting side walls better. ;)

I put the KH dump work bench today after a shooting a movie with the gopro on it, the steering was becoming more erractic than ever & that Polk radio is super glitchy too. The KH dump trk was the last trk on the Polk system.. those radios are going into the burning barrel! :mad:

Much to my surprise after taking apart the KH front end, a whole bunch plastic fell out! :eek:

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The GWS servo is original to the trk when I built in 1996! Although I didn't really use it until 2006 when I started backfilling the east wall.. but still, broke the top off the servo!!! I put a HiTec 645 in there now. :)

With the DX6 radio I only have two 2pos switches, so it's 2nd & 3rd only, till my Robot Marketplace order shows up in a couple wks with a DX7 radio. :(

Ready for work again. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/006-2.jpg



http://youtu.be/apCN2aSKxz8

[fhhhstix]

Joe the DX8 is being offered right now with the 8 ch receiver and two extra 6ch receivers for free but if you have already ordered the DX7 I guess it is a little late for that.

I will try and get you some good pics this week of a couple different buckets with side cutters.

Travis

[RCTech9]

Another great video! It sure is quite a tour on the truck!

[doodlebug]

Hey Joe, even the full size hoe's can have problem's with side cutter's. You may try something shaped more like a single tooth in place of them. Or try sharpening them like a wood chisel, might be a tad "dull". I've seen boom's break, from being sideloaded.
Please post a picture of your "vee" bucket'' http://www.werk-brau.com/VLineStrataRockFrostSevereDutyBuckets.aspx
With the vee bucket's, they stand them up 90' to the dirt to cut level or square, raking motion. Would that help with shaping the wall?
6 year's out of a servo, is that a new record for rc trucking?, in an open pit mining situation! Scale wise that truck has probably moved 250,000 scale cubic yard's!!!!!
No cow's this year?:p:eek: More time for rc stuff:D:D:D

Cheer's, Neil.

[Lil Giants]

Is that advertised through Hobby Horizon? Looks like maybe $70 savings.. :(

Not really Neil. I've been using a pic axe to trim a 90° cut right next to the wall as I cut each layer. This last cut is down to floor level now, so I'll be able to face the wall directly to trim it straight down.

I intend to dig the holes for the posts with the 850, make a 5" width trench for 8 feet length along the floor, as deep as the 850 can reach. I usually put the 10' length 4x4 posts 30" into the ground.. I'll have to measure what the 850 can do.

[ihbuilder]

nothing wrong with those side cutters Joe . They kind of look like the modified 1's on the 30 " bckt on the 307 cat I had . No pics though :( . they worked real well ;) It's hard to get a 90 * wall when your not digging parallel to the cut with the bckt .

Neil , I got 416 shanks on my 303CR ;) I never liked those bolt ons :confused: I weld the outer 2 on a slight angle outward to help with the resistance in digging a trench .

[RCP57]

So I made these side cutters this afternoon.. are they too big? :confused:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/001-1.jpg

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They look good to me... Looks just like the bucket on my Kubota mini!

Reg

[doodlebug]

nothing wrong with those side cutters Joe . They kind of look like the modified 1's on the 30 " bckt on the 307 cat I had . No pics though :( . they worked real well ;) It's hard to get a 90 * wall when your not digging parallel to the cut with the bckt .

Neil , I got 416 shanks on my 303CR ;) I never liked those bolt ons :confused: I weld the outer 2 on a slight angle outward to help with the resistance in digging a trench .

Hey Steve, yes I bolt the teeth on, tired of breaking the "DOH-nut" pin retainer's, has been working well for me. NO MORE SMASHED FINGER'S:D:D:D No more wimpy teeth:eek::eek::eek:. Cat people can't understand why we upgrade our bucket's:mad::mad::mad:.

Cheer's, Neil.

[steamer]

Joe, I see a Wedico pump under the dump truck. Just wondering if you've any issues with it. Going to use two pumps for the 789, one for each cylinder with one common oil tank.
By the video it looks to work very well.
Rob

[Lil Giants]

Both the pump & telescope cyl in this trk have worked perfectly since day one.. even after virtually sitting the 1st six yrs, never a problem with air bubbles or loss of pressure. I rarely go up on the 3rd stage & the box is small enough that the hoist is rarely stressed much.

I had dual pumps with dual wdc telescopes on my end dump trl.. I had trouble with one of the telescopes, 2nd joint kept popping apart.. then I went to the Leimbach 5 stage telescope with dual pumps, the Leimbach usually hung up coming down, sticking on the last widest stage. Going up with a heaped box of dirt, no hesitation.

Overall, the four wdc pumps I have been using for many yrs have never failed me with loss of pressure or leaking fluid. That's the one good item I can speak highly of from wdc. :D

[steamer]

Joe, just another quick question. Do you have a part number for the Leimbach 5 stage cyl. Could not find any info on there web site.
Rob

[Lil Giants]

Long since discontinued!

Scale Art makes a nice 4 stage telescope. And their mini pump is mighty fine too that fits inside a fuel tank. They changed their site since I was there last, my link to their hyds page no longer shows their hyd parts.. guess you'll have to contact them directly for script & pics of purchasing parts.

http://scaleart.de/en/

[apfubar]

Link to the scale art hydraulics:
http://www.scaleart-shop.de/Functional-Packages/Functional-Packages-Semi-/Traile/Hydraulic-set-halfpipe-tipper-semi-trailer::52.html

AP

[apfubar]

With the DX6 radio I only have two 2pos switches, so it's 2nd & 3rd only, till my Robot Marketplace order shows up in a couple wks with a DX7...

BTW You can mix two two pos switches to work the three speeds on a dx6, but it is much easier on the 7 and above with the three pos switches...

Cheers,
AP

[Lil Giants]

Thanx for the assistance Ap. :cool:

How would I program that into the radio? I guess with one 2pos, either side is 1st or 3rd, then program the second 2pos for half the throw.. is that right?

[apfubar]

Yep that's it!

A little bit of "mixing" and you are away... I had it working well on my dx6...

AP

[Lil Giants]

Do I need to "Y" harness the shift servo to make that mix work? ..cause I didn't get it to work with just the shift servo plugged into the gear channel.

A month ago I cooked the right track motor.. it sorta continued to work, well enough till another showed up last week & I put it in to get the tracks working smoothly together again..

.. then last night the left track stops!

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The output shaft of the gearhead is bent too!!

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I sent Frank a mail this morning.. "NEED MORE PARTS!!!" :o

[Azonic]

Wow! You have really put some tourqe on the tracks! :)

Something special that made this happen?

[apfubar]

hmmm who's been a "naughty" boy! :-)

Stress testing again!

Back to the mix, on the gear channel, no Y harnesses required... just a bit of fiddling with the programming...

Google 3pos switch for DX6i.... e.g. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=17082865&postcount=6317

Cheers,
AP

[hvy 1ton]

Wow. Never seen a gearmotor output shaft bent like that before and i've abused them badly at times. I only ever seem to grenade planetaries tho.

[Lil Giants]

A small rock found it's way atop & behind the idler, I have the track tension set pretty tight so I don't skip a track.. one action creates another reaction & shyt happens. :(

I haven't heard if Frank sent replacement parts yet.. normally I wouldn't have time this time of yr, but Mother Nature isn't cooperating again this yr with excessive moisture during Spring planting. I'm so saturated here, high water table, now I'm wishing I had planted more winter wheat last Fall. :(

So today I tinker with my green GL to see what the clicking was about a month ago.. stripped the front pinion of the middle diff.. that's another new 1st! :D

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[Lil Giants]

So tonite's "fix it" was a new esc for the loader, the ol MTronics Viper Marine, the reverse went out of it.. Reverse never did work right with that esc, it was like it had to warm up before it would run smoothly, always worked fine in forward though. :confused:

I had a bunch of the Banebot 9amp esc's that worked great for adding to the Leimbach hyd pump motors, but now Robotmarketplace is out of stock on them with no eta. :(

So I had this Novak Rooster sitting around.. it says on the box 6-7cell.. how long will it last on 10cells? :confused:

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[RCP57]

I was at a friends birthday party last night and I was showing pictures of my toys to a friend of ours... She started in about how she heard about this guy on the radio a while back that was digging in his basement with stuff just like it!:eek: I just laughed and said yeah thats Joe....;) Having been around her Dad's 1:1 stuff all her life she thought it was really cool and would be a lot of fun!

You're still famous Joe:cool:!

Reg

[Lil Giants]

Thanx for the humorous story Reg.. your friend an avid CBC listener? That interview with Helen.. what'shername on the Current Affairs, she was putting me down throughtout.. she didn't get it that it was a hobby with many enthusiasts worldwide.

Finnished planting on Monday, then made a few movies with the 850 outside.. the GoPro looks good with natural light, this was 8:30pm, an hour before dark. :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDYmWbRRymM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GK70mzNZyg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjhmUYPYzrY

[RCTech9]

Great Videos! Nice dump truck!

[RCP57]

Thanx for the humorous story Reg.. your friend an avid CBC listener? That interview with Helen.. what'shername on the Current Affairs, she was putting me down throughtout.. she didn't get it that it was a hobby with many enthusiasts worldwide.

Finnished planting on Monday, then made a few movies with the 850 outside.. the GoPro looks good with natural light, this was 8:30pm, an hour before dark. :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDYmWbRRymM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GK70mzNZyg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjhmUYPYzrY

Some people will never get it Joe. The same people that make fun of you for digging in your basement probably spend all their time off getting their facebook page setup just right or sitting in a trendy coffee shop talking about their last vacation to Mexico where they got drunk and did nothing for ten days. Those things seem like a tremendous waist of time to me so I guess it really depends on your perspective. If we lived closer together and you didn't mind, my equipment would be in your basement digging and hauling too!

I like the new vids!

Reg

[apfubar]

Joe,

Love the vids... the go pro is amazing with the wide angle on it in the daylight....

Making it look easy loading the new truck with the 850! :-)

Cheers,
AP

[Lil Giants]

I was sizing what was left of the wall this week & it's about a cubic yard or less to mine away yet.. start of the winter it was approx 4x5x10 which equals 200 cubic feet - 7.4 cubic yards .. so there's over 6cu yd piled around the basement to be hauled sometime this summer.. about double what I normally tackle.... too bad you didn't live closer Reg, I could do with some trk drivers. :D

You wouldn't guess it from this picture, but a few days prior it looked like December with six inches of heavy wet snow on Sunday.

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I got a liner load of cattle last Friday from a good friend who renting some of my pasture this yr.. several of them are like dogs following me around the corral, stand right in front of me wanting a scratch! haha

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Tuesday was a nice warm day, dried up in front of house, so I emptied out this bin, about 30 loads worth!

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I went up the stairs each time to look out the kitchen window for a 3D view to get all the loads piled tightly together.

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Hauled from a few other areas wed/thur night as well.. about 50 loads out there now..

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[RCTech9]

Nice work Joe!

[hitachi]

keep up the good work Joe:)

[RCP57]

If I lived closer I would be there for sure to help out Joe. I'd probably replace the R18 with a Terex Titan though which may not be a bad idea anyway...:D.

Reg

[super2222]

amaizing to see the what you've done

[grumpygrady]

hmmm so next is the equipment on the moon and sitting in your chair mining the ore
to smelt down for steel to build a moon base?
i wonder if nasa thinks about the training it is going to take to do that and if some of our members will be the ones to do it ,like JOE here

[Kaf343]

I love this whole concept and the pics are inspiring.

[Lil Giants]

The training must already be there Grady as there are video remote operators for underwater robotic vehicles, as I've seen it on Discovery for tree cutting and oil exploration. :)

Thank you for the kind compliments fellas, always appreciated.

Still working at the basement wall a few hrs a week, digging at the wall from the basement floor. Maybe a half yard to mine away yet, then dig a trench for the posts. The trench needs to be 30 inches deep, beyond the reach of the 850, but I'll dig as much I can with it, providing I don't strike any major boulders. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGNaFIz0xCA&feature=plcp

[dabears]

Love watching your vids keep em coming!

[CrewCab59]

Looks like time for a thumb attachment.:D

[grumpygrady]

The training must already be there Grady as there are video remote operators for underwater robotic vehicles, as I've seen it on Discovery for tree cutting and oil exploration."

i am sure they have some of the training needed but just like when they started using the ROLanders they were looking for bodies that were doing it already as in the RC racers ,
and they asked around the forums if anyone knew how to control a plane with a computer and operator .in the 90's
So do not think people are not interested in what we do even if it is a big company that uses our ideas to make big money IE robots for bomb removal came out of the battlebots ideas and the computer controlled vehicle races out west that were set up by a couple of companies and our government lol
you could even start a company for the remote control digging industry they have them for cleaning out big tanks etc

have fun

[Lil Giants]

Thumbs are for rookies. :p

Oh I don't think I'll ever leave my rural setting for greener pastures elsewhere Grady.. although the media is still after me.. some program on TLC called My Crazy Obsession phoned a week ago from LA & a german tv program, similar to Urban Legends on Spike wanted to use my youtube videos for their programming.

Something I did today was modify one of my ripper tooths, a much better angle for carving at the vertical wall. :cool:

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[dabears]

My crazy obsessions wanted you? Man they just dont get it do they? Their hobby is money, as ours is fun building and spending it haha The new ripper looks like it should work well!

[Lil Giants]

Oddly enough I got another call today from TLC; their restructuring their program to focus moreso on large collections & unique hobbies, a more postive atmosphere of enjoyable past times, rather than the wierd fetishes & what not of last season.

But their timing for filming my hobby (if I were to make an audition tape & have it approved) is way off, they'd want to come in late August - early September, in the midst of my harvest.. I told them no thanks, but I'll be watching to see what comes of their program this winter and maybe we'll talk next summer.

The modded tooth is working fantastic. :cool:

[Lil Giants]

Something I've been working at the last couple Sundays...

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I just got to wire in an esc within the JD850, string a paired wire along the boom / stick, make a junction box for the female receptacles and solder on some leads to the motor... maybe Sunday I have a movie made. :D

[Hofabooz]

Hi
Looks very good and well made as usual .
Will be great to see the in action video.
Thanks for posting.

Regards

Mark

[Lil Giants]

Thanx for the praise Mark. :cool:

Caught up to the green again yesterday and so I can enjoy another Sunday off (without pain this time lol)... made the necessary changes to the screener last night & shot some vid this morning. ;)

The screener itself weighs in @7lbs :eek:, add 3 to 5lbs dirt into it and it takes 25 bar to barely lift with the stick out much.

The dirt is rather damp in this vid, I'm sure it'd be a much more impressive showing in dry dirt or sand, quicker too! I'll shoot some of those vids after harvest. ;)

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This is about 3 5amp lipos worth of screened material... it'd likely be triple that amount with the flat vibra screen I normally use... but now this one easily portable. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%201%202012/013-5.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENov1rFH6a8&feature=youtu.be

[steamer]

Joe glad to hear that your walking around vertical again instead of being horizontal. Screener looks like it works real good. Does it work constant speed or is it on an ESC?
Rob

[Lil Giants]

Thanx Rob. Me too. :)

I swapped out the Servonaut S20 I was using for the swing, installed a Sabertooth 2x12 & used the 2nd motor controller for the screener. Not knowing right off what rpm would be suitable for the screener, I started with a higher rpm gh motor & played with the tx's epa. The current gh motor is 40 rpm, still a little on the fast side @100%, got it dialed back to 60%.

I'm having trouble with the Sabertooth remembering its previous calibrations for the swing speed (EPA) after turning the model off/on. I could go back to the Servonaut, and now with this 40rpm screener motor, use a battle switch to turn on/off.

[steamer]

Joe I'm having the same trouble with the Saber tooth in the FWD.. So this morning I sat down and read the instructions for the fortieth time and I guess it finally sunk in. If you read the line to calibrate and store it now make sense. Switch 5 on (up) switch 6 off (down). Turn on trans. set your center, high and low and then turn on (up) switch 6 to lock it in memory before powering down. I tried it and everything seems fine now, fingers crossed!!!

[Lil Giants]

Yeah, I think I was doing it backwards... 5/6 up, set epa's, then 6 down.

Thee old 50/50/90 rule :p :D

[Lil Giants]

I had some fun in the quarry today, working at cleaning up the last of the south wall.. soon I'll be digging the trench for the posts of the last part of the wooden crib wall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUiWo9IunNk&feature=plcp

[Lil Giants]

Hauling dirt outside yesterday with the KH & pup and GL w/belly dump.. blew the pinion out in the middle axle of the GL while ascending to the window; just replaced one on the green GL dump trk.

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[Lil Giants]

I got started digging the trench for my crib wall this week. I'm having to cheat a bit with the use of a chisel bar to keep the trench square on the sides, as the 850 doesn't have the nutts to cut sideways.

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[sandfarmer]

I'm new here, you have successfully killed about the last 3 nights of my life LOL! Run machinery all day farming and come home and watch machinery run all night, I may have a problem...keep up the good work!

[Lil Giants]

You're welcome or I'm sorry? :confused: :p

Thanx, glad to hear you find them entertaining. :)

Making pretty good headway with the trenching this week, biggest bolder so far is about the size of a softball, dig it out with the chisel bar. One post in, three more to go & add the 5/8 pws sheet.

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[wingnut163]

hi joe, didn't know it was you when you welcomed me on the new post. you changed your sign in. i see your still clearing out your basement, **** its 5 years or more now.


skip

[RCLogger]

I am out of the loop Joe, whats the trench for ?

greg

[Lil Giants]

Well you must remember that I always had the LilGiantsConstrCo name sake on my trks & equipment for more than decade Skip? Nobody else in the world uses the same name, hobby or IRL. The basement dig started 8yrs ago, but the last 4yrs it has slowed down greatly after becoming the sole operater of the farm & well, trying to make it last as long as possible. ;)

Greg, I'm digging in the last four posts of the remaining part of the south wooden crib wall. Then I'll be backfilling the air gap. After that's done, then I think I'll start digging down 18" for more headroom.. that should give me another yr or so in the basement before I have nothing left to do. :rolleyes:

[wingnut163]

your so right joe. i did not remember it until i read LilGiantsContsrCo, then i remembered.
guess i'll have to clam a senior moment.

skip

[edwalsh18]

Hey joe i was watching some of your videos and the cam from cab view is.really cool! Thanks for sharing them. You ever think about getting a wireless cam setup to your tv and operate machines from your living room couch? That would be pretty cool.

[Lil Giants]

Really?! I get dizzy watching those in cab vids, life size or model. :eek:

I have no interest in video remote, especially running trks at dangerous heights and trying to judge distance thru a video monitor. But by all means, feel free to show me how it's done Ed. :D

Tonite I finally completed building the last 10 feet of wooden crib wall. :cool:

Posts in

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Move a post to slip the 5/8's sheets through

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Precut skyway

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And wal la Ready for work! :D

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And backfill the trench too

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I've got another new member to the fleet, just for this very application of back filling, if it'll fit.. it'll be a couple weeks waiting for parts in the mail to finish it. :D

[RCLogger]

Joe With the new addition and all the big equipment you have now you will be doing more than just dropping the floor 18 inchs... You will be making underground parking for you truck and quad ! ! !

Cheers

greg

[Lil Giants]

A pile of fines in the SE corner (last yr this time it was a deep hole 6x3x4 feet). Quite a bit of this will go in behind the crib wall.

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The last couple wks I have been cleaning out this dirt from under the west porch, this was wet dirt from the SW wall that I mined away last winter. Bone dry now & crush it into fines.

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Haul that dirt over here so I can use my screener bucket, pile the screenings in the box and dump the lumps into the bellydump to haul to the crusher.

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Using lil Red Freddybilt, fashioned up a tailgate lock from a paperclip, so now I can load 'er up & climb the wall without loosing half the load along the way. :D

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Upgraded the radio in the JD850 today. Now I got sliders on each side of the tx to control the tracks (sweet control!) & I put my r/c quick coupler (manufactured by Azonic) back on (had to remove it when I built the screener bucket b/c I was out chs with the DX8). This radio has four proportional chs on the sticks, two 2pos, seven 3pos, two sliders & a knob. The rx is 9ch; a different device called X-Plus is needed to get the other 9chs. I don't need the X-Plus at this time. I'm using three of the 3pos switches for dual rates on the bucket, stick & swing. A 3pos switch & the knob are the only two chs not currently in use.

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I built this bench 1.5 yr ago to elevate my stool when I was excavating the SW dirt wall, it has now become quite a handy temporary workbench to work on the JD850. :cool:

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Getting pretty full of goodies under the hood - Sabertooth 2x25 for the tracks, Sabertooth 2x12 for the swing & screener bucket, Eflite 40amp esc for hyd pump, 2pos esc for the quik coupler, ect...

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I wore out another Carson 4:1 box in my KH dump trk & pup, so today I put a 3:1 gear in the dual motor coupler. With the 4:1 I rarely used 1st b/c it was so slow! Now that it will be faster with 3:1 reduction, I changed radios from a DX6i to a DX7s (paired now with the Stahl wheel loader) to make use of the only 3pos switch for the trans. DX6i doesn't have a 3pos switch. These Spektrum radios are Awesomeness! Be it a different radio now, but still the same AR6110e rx. :)

Lots more lil giants to hit the workbench for repairs & upgrades.. gonna be a busy winter for fixing! :eek:

[elliot330]

Nice radio Joe... now you have one for the whole fleet.

Any reason you went for the hand held version compared the tray?

[Lil Giants]

When I was at the St Louis meet last month I held Nate's (pigeonfarmboy) DX10t and didn't like its ergonomics - the sticks were too far inward. I prefer to operate with my thumbs, steadying my hands by holding the edge of the radio with my fingers... I'm getting old(er) and hate change! :D

I like the DX18, it fits my hands perfectly! All the switches & sliders are within easy reach too. :cool:

[elliot330]

I can understand where you are coming from... the DX10t is wide and only really designed to be held on a harness. I've ran out of mixes on my DX10 - I really need your software in my radio :-)

[ihbuilder]

I'll have to check the 18 out . I didn't know it had sliders :) I'm gona need that for the twins ;) Nice to see the lil red cracker box get so haul time . When you say sliders , is there another pot on the left like on the right on the dx8 ? It's hard to tell from pics .

[Lil Giants]

Is it six mixes for the DX10t? What are doing with that tx to need so many Elliot?

Steve, pot - as in knob? No, just one of them right side.

There's a rotary slider on both the upper right & left side. I'm using right for/rev - left for turning.

I've been trying to figure out how to program some deadband on the sliders, they're pretty touchy.

Overall, the DX18 has to be the sweetest & easiest radio I've ever had to program! ;)

[ihbuilder]

Is it six mixes for the DX10t? What are doing with that tx to need so many Elliot?

Steve, pot - as in knob? No, just one of them right side.

There's a rotary slider on both the upper right & left side. I'm using right for/rev - left for turning.

I've been trying to figure out how to program some deadband on the sliders, they're pretty touchy.

Overall, the DX18 has to be the sweetest & easiest radio I've ever had to program! ;)


yea I just saw that :o, At 800.00 usd that may be in my near future before the 10 . I checked Nates to . Even with my big hands , it seems to cumbersome .

[elliot330]

Is it six mixes for the DX10t? What are doing with that tx to need so many Elliot?

How long you got!!

Yes it only has 6 mixes

The 1st 4 mixes are mixed from Pump to Boom, stick, bucket and adjustable boom.

I then need 4 more to control the demolition grab with the little switches on the stick.. and I'd also "like to control the tracks with the gimbles as well... but I've got no mixes left.

I've been trying to figure out how to program some deadband on the sliders, they're pretty touchy.


In your instance Joe, I'd program flight mode for tracking to site and then a flight mode for digging.

In the tracking flight mode, I'd mix the throttle and elevator sticks to drive the tracks kinda like a tank? I think it would offer better control than the sliders? Just a thought and what I want to do!

[elliot330]

Joe - How many 2 pos and 3 pos switches do you have?

[Lil Giants]

Flight mode is a great idea!... Precision control on the sticks for long moves isn't needed.. although, perhaps the difference in EPA from one flight mode to the other would work. Have one mode with a really low EPA while digging in a tight area & the other for high EPA's for long moves. Great tip Elliot. :)

I thought you replied rather quickly after my long post, just looked at the pics, eh? What chs are listed above the radio picture. ;) :p :D

[elliot330]

Flight mode is a great idea!... Precision control on the sticks for long moves isn't needed.. although, perhaps the difference in EPA from one flight mode to the other would work. Have one mode with a really low EPA while digging in a tight area & the other for high EPA's for long moves. Great tip Elliot. :)

Yep that's it - don't even need to edit the EPA, just adjust the % of track throttle in the mix - or leave it at 100% as the sticks allow much better control and self center if you need to stop quickly !

Personally, i don't like the sliders, they can get knocked and are really hard to center in a hurry!... But i guess if you are tracking across the basement then its like cruise control :-)

I thought you replied rather quickly after my long post, just looked at the pics, eh? What chs are listed above the radio picture. ;) :p :D


Opps:o I did just look at the pics!
It sounds like you are not using the knob for your pump? Do you run it flat out?

Now I've read it... how comes you have your dual rates on 3 different switches? Do you like to vary the bucket speed without the stick and so on?

[Lil Giants]

I have the pump on Aux2 (3pos) & set the sub trim way low so the middle position is like 20%. With the mix switch on, pump rpm will ramp up when the valve chs are activated. Due to the large size of the bl motor & pressure set to 25bar, have to have some rotation of the hyd pump all the time so the esc doesn't freeze (a squeal can be heard in some of the early vids of the JD850 b/c the pump speed got too low during delicate movement of the valves - emptying the bucket out across a full full trk to fill every corner without spilling). I could vary the pump rpm on the knob, but I like quick on/off of the switch.

I have two valve settings for the bucket & stick; one setting opens the valves fully without much stick movement for fast digging, the other setting it takes alot stick movement to open the valve for much finer control - like for changing buckets.

I have 3 different settings for the swing as well.

[doodlebug]

All those various setting's, just like the 1:1 machine's:D:D:D
Cheer's, Neil.

[mog]

wow joe i don't know how you can figger out all that stuff in the radio. i will have to get you the expert in if i ever get a raido like that. all i see is shiny button's that look fun to press.

[dirtpusher9]

Joe, I thank you for letting run your Cat-Volvo truck at the show, it was a blast to play with and I couldn't believe how well it got around, going over all the other loads of dirt. Nice model.

[livefree4780]

ya know... watching your vids and seeing your mods got me interested in this about 2 years ago. actually the first vid i saw was yours. but my point is i keep coming back to your threads. keep up the good work. its inspiring.!!

[apfubar]

I have the pump on Aux2 (3pos) & set the sub trim way low so the middle position is like 20%. With the mix switch on, pump rpm will ramp up when the valve chs are activated. Due to the large size of the bl motor & pressure set to 25bar, have to have some rotation of the hyd pump all the time so the esc doesn't freeze (a squeal can be heard in some of the early vids of the JD850 b/c the pump speed got too low during delicate movement of the valves - emptying the bucket out across a full full trk to fill every corner without spilling). I could vary the pump rpm on the knob, but I like quick on/off of the switch.

I have two valve settings for the bucket & stick; one setting opens the valves fully without much stick movement for fast digging, the other setting it takes alot stick movement to open the valve for much finer control - like for changing buckets.

I have 3 different settings for the swing as well.

Hi,

Just wanted to say thank you for posting this idea... After playing with my DX10T over the weekend I now have a similar setup for the 944... It should make it much easier to get that fine control...

[Lil Giants]

Yes Neil, all those settings... atm I only have one more ch than the DX8, but I'm having trouble trying to program the DX18 with the same fine control that I had with the DX8.. trying to diagnose what the problems are with my dealer, this DX18 is doing things it shouldn't be and not doing things it should be. :confused:

You're nearly half my age Martin, this electronic stuff should be a snap for you! :D

You're welcome Joe, it was great seeing you again. I'm looking forward to seeing what your next project will be. :)

Thank you kindly livefree.. where would we be today without the internet with the freedom to learn & share with one another around the globe? :cool:

Cheers Andy! The added programming does make for much more enjoyable play. ;)

Ol' whitey back on the bench, turning sharp right made the front wheels stick & not center again, it made it difficult to drive.

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Added some more Shoo Goo to the diff, previous gunk shredded away to nothing. The axle is locked up now, but over time the resistant will lessen.

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Ed (HeavyDuty) gave me these jackstands when I visited him in St Louis last month, they sure are a handy tool for bench testing the model. Thanx again Ed! :cool:

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[dabears]

Glad you got that front axle back up and fixed!!

[sandfarmer]

Hey Joe, what has happened to this thread? Is it just me or are all the videos gone? I've tried to use this thread 3 times over the last few days to introduce people to things they didn't even know existed but no vids.... hope all is well up North!

[Lil Giants]

Still working at it nearly everyday, just nothing new to show.. might take some video this wk of the start of the dig on the basement floor.

I have noticed in the last week or so that with youtube's constant updating that IE rarely seems to work anymore, even with updating Adobe Flash player. However, the vids work everytime with Google Chrome browser.

[elliot330]

Just watched the latest video, what do I spy on the left at 3.10? I'm sure I've seen a tracked loader like that ;-) Is it new to the fleet?

[Lil Giants]

Hello Elliot, got it used from some one in the states last spring. It came with a Servonaut system - lights & sounds.. that lasted about one day and then I opted for Sabertooth control and an esc on the pump, much quieter, smoother control. ;) I need to make a different bucket.. next winters project in my new shop.

Here's the start of the floor excavation, dig down about 18 inches, I think that's the 850's max reach. That should keep me busy for another yr or two. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTyPfuQLUP0&feature=youtu.be

[Azonic]

Nice vid Joe!

Nice to see you got the coupler on again, got it to work with the new controler?

[Lil Giants]

Thanx Kalle, the coupler is working xllnt (hope I didn't jinx myself admitting that out loud lol), makes quick work changing buckets/ect, getting pretty good at doing quickly too.

No, I kept the 2pos controller, I got the timing just right now. I didn't want to have rely on my counting every time & it's impossible to hear if the furnace is running. I used a dab of red locktite on the union, probably stronger than epoxy. ;)

Something odd though, sometimes while using the tracks, especially turning, the high amp draw on the 2x25 some how causes the 2pos esc to activate, the pins cycle in then out again. Were you using a 2pos esc too? This ever happen to you?

[Espeefan]

Thanx Kalle, the coupler is working xllnt (hope I didn't jinx myself admitting that out loud lol), makes quick work changing buckets/ect, getting pretty good at doing quickly too.

No, I kept the 2pos controller, I got the timing just right now. I didn't want to have rely on my counting every time & it's impossible to hear if the furnace is running. I used a dab of red locktite on the union, probably stronger than epoxy. ;)

Something odd though, sometimes while using the tracks, especially turning, the high amp draw on the 2x25 some how causes the 2pos esc to activate, the pins cycle in then out again. Were you using a 2pos esc too? This ever happen to you?

Joe, just a thought - are you running an external BEC, or receiver battery pack? If you are running on the ESC's internal BEC, a heavy current draw can over tax the ESC, and the internal BEC circuitry starts acting weird, or can cut out and make servos, or anything else plugged in, act strange or glitch.

[Lil Giants]

That's probably what it is then Nathan, the Sabertooth is providing the BEC. I'd rather use the E-Flite's BEC, but I have found that disconnecting the red wires from the Sabertooth rx leads, then the Sabertooth does not work.

[fhhhstix]

That's probably what it is then Nathan, the Sabertooth is providing the BEC. I'd rather use the E-Flite's BEC, but I have found that disconnecting the red wires from the Sabertooth rx leads, then the Sabertooth does not work.

If you are using a separate BEC then the red wires from the sabertooth being unhooked should be fine. My CAT tractor, Track loader, and dozer all use a separate BEC and the red wires are pulled from the plug and the sabertooths work just fine. The sabertooth I bought for the CAT tractor came with an external BEC and the red wires are not even in the harness going to the esc just the ground and signal. I do know one thing for sure never unhook the ground or the signal wire has nothing to get a base reading from they work together.


Travis

[tracksntreadslou]

Joe the Globe looks as though it has alot of scale miles on her or should i say Klms..Is that one of your first trucks and what year did you get it ? :)

[Lil Giants]

Travis, currently in the 850 there is two Sabertooths, 2x12 & 2x25, both esc's have the red wires installed.. that should give me more than enough current? :confused:

My Stahl adt, the BEC from the 2x12 wasn't enough to power the rx, so I added an external 4.8v batt too.

The 2x10 in my last Stahl excavator, same problem with a 2x12, added a 4.8v rx batt. Both the Stahl hoe & adt have the red wires installed with an external batt, what is the reason to have either or, but not both? Or is it not to have two esc's providing BEC together? ..although I'm doing that in the 850.

Lou, it's #2.. originally my short KH 6x4, 2002. I swapped frame rails with a GL that I bought at the same time #3, that GL later became the green 6x6. Then I made that KH short trk a 6x6 and added the white GL body from an ebay parts trk I got in '06 maybe. Motors, trans & frame rails would be all that's original since building it the 1st time, everything else has been R&R'd a few times. This trk would definitely have a few hundred thousand scaled kms, pulling that bd trl 99% of the time.

[Espeefan]

Joe, speed controllers with internal BECs have limitations in what current they can supply to the other loads you are powering. Often times the BEC voltage and current is listed in the spec sheet for each speed controller. The catch is the max current rating is usually decreased, as input battery voltage increases. A speed controller might be able to supply 6 volts and 5 amps, running a 7.2 volt battery pack, but when you bump the voltage up the BEC capacity decreases. Or under a heavy load, the internal BEC just can't keep up, especially when the speed controller is already driving some power hungry motors, consuming a lot of current. Your ESC either thermals and shuts down, or the servos get glitchy.

I'm all for running external BECs in such situations. It's the best way to solve the problem. By doing so, you are relieving the ESC of two jobs. Running a motor, and supplying power to your servos, via the internal BEC. In high performance applications, where every little bit counts, running an external BEC will allow the speed controller to put everything into the motor(s).

In the case of running dual (or more) speed controllers on one model, people sometimes recommend you pull the power wire out of the additonal speed controller's plug and let just one speed controller's internal BEC handle powering the servos. I think otherwise, and here is why. If your speed controllers are identical, then the internal BEC voltage and current output of each speed controller will be identical too. The internal BECs will work together, just like dual battery packs in parallel, which basically means the current draw will be split between the two internal BECs. Make sense? I think it does, and I have run dual motor models this way with no ill effects, and no external BEC. The key is to make sure you turn the power switches 'on' for both ESCs, even though turning just one 'on' will power up the other automatically. I used to run my dual motor, dual ESC rock crawlers like this. It worked just fine for me, and that was powering two power hungry high torque steering servos, plus the drivetrain motors.

Now in the case of running an external BEC, I definitely agree that the power wires for each ESC should be pulled out of the plug. The ESCs will all power up together, as soon as the external BEC is switched 'on'. No big deal. Or you could run a separate rx battery pack too. Either way, the results are the same. I would not recommend trying to use the speed controller's internal BEC along with a battery pack, or an external BEC. Reason being is the voltages could be very different, and you might burn something up. Some external BECs are voltage adjustable, and some aren't. Best to just let the external BEC work alone in either case.

I hope this helps and makes sense.

[pigeonfarmboy]

What he said. Good explanation.

Most companies don't care much about BEC efficiency. Just because it says it's a 5amp BEC doesn't mean it can keep up under large loads. You could use a Novak 5amp and a Castle in the same configuration and every time the Novak will perform better because they test the components efficiency to very high standards. Servos are the same way. Different brands pull more/less power. Hitec for instance are generally amperage hogs.

[Lil Giants]

Thanx again for the informational post Nathan.. and Nathan. :cool: I'll just keep doing what I'm doing then, double up BEC's from multiple esc's -> as long as they are running on the same volatges & putting out the same BEC voltages, too much current likely will never will be an issue. ;)


Just got home from xmas in the city the last 5days.. went to a large general tool/automotive store this morning (Princess Auto), got lost in there for about 3hrs :eek: and I found this nifty little bilge pump :cool:.. suppose to be capable of putting out 170 -200 gph meant for boats & what not, runs on 12v.

Outlet is 7mm id -> taper it down to 3 or 4mm should produce pretty good press for either a nozzle or spray bar the width of trk. Put it on an esc to vary the voltage, which will vary the press & flow. It can be totally submerge, so I'll just put it right in the tank! Start building my water hauler here shortly for the floor dig.

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[doodlebug]

Hey Joe, How about a portable water tower? http://www.machinerytrader.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=6930395
Cheer's, Neil.

[edwalsh18]

... Start building my water hauler here shortly for the floor dig.


YES!!!! oh thats great! i cant wait to see it! another truck i really would like to see! do you know what kind of truck you want to build?

[RCLogger]

Thanx again for the informational post Nathan.. and Nathan. :cool: I'll just keep doing what I'm doing then, double up BEC's from multiple esc's -> as long as they are running on the same volatges & putting out the same BEC voltages, too much current likely will never will be an issue. ;)


Just got home from xmas in the city the last 5days.. went to a large general tool/automotive store this morning (Princess Auto), got lost in there for about 3hrs :eek: and I found this nifty little bilge pump :cool:.. suppose to be capable of putting out 170 -200 gph meant for boats & what not, runs on 12v.

Outlet is 7mm id -> taper it down to 3 or 4mm should produce pretty good press for either a nozzle or spray bar the width of trk. Put it on an esc to vary the voltage, which will vary the press & flow. It can be totally submerge, so I'll just put it right in the tank! Start building my water hauler here shortly for the floor dig.

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Joe You have that water hauler built yet ? Time to post some photo's..

Happy New Year ! :D

Greg

[RCLogger]

Any updates Joe

You been busy fixing ?

[Lil Giants]

I haven't done anything with the bilge pump.. I intend to use the green GL to carry the water tank, removing the dirt box takes no time, but I've been using that trk daily in the quarry. A very slow drip with the garden hose is working really well atm for soaking up a large area deeply over night. ;)

And I have been doing alot fixing lately too.. got my dozer working again, turned out the gh motor broke loose from its glued mounting ring, glued it back in a wk ago.

I got this Scale Art loader last spring used from a guy in the states.. I'm not overly impressed with it and now 6 months later the Carson is available & it looks 10x better for function! :( I sent S/A a note asking how to increase hyd press? They never replied. :mad: This loader lifts so slow with a bucket full of dirt & won't lift at all if I'm pushing into the pile. I've had the tracks off twice now to fix the drives.. 1st was a roll pin deep inside the gearbox, I used a 1/16 drill bit cut to length in place of the roll pin. Now the drive pin in the drive sprocket sheared off :confused: ...these drive motors have a ton of power! Some 2mm drill bits showed up in the mail yesterday to make the fix. ;)

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Something I noticed right away with the S/A loader was how poor the bucket radius was near ground level.. currently I have plastic bucket on it from a Bruder 963 & it's distance from the top link to the arm pivot is about 5mm less than oem. But the Bruder bucket is about the same width as the oem & they're both too narrow, there's about 3mm of track sticking out either side. I need to make a new bucket.. next yr's project in my new workshop. ;)

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Some dump angle has been lost at the very top of the lift arm travel, a new design for the z link needs to be done too.

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I've also been tinkering at the mystery model I got last Spring, got to get it done for this summers activities outside. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%2013/016.jpg

I got a new battery yesterday, 180amps, that'll fit nicely in the nose of D9Joe's dozer, gets some needed weight upfront.. just gotta tear out the hyds & electronics to redo it all, get this model working as good as it looks. ;)

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I've been eyeballing the blue hyd-lift bench that D8R Dan's 1/5,6 scale dozer sits on in all his pics, they're both probably the same bench (820mm x 520mm).. gives you a nice comparison shot at the difference in the two scales of virtually the same dozer. ;)

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And nearly everyday for a few hrs, either digging down in the floor or processing last yr's dirt from the wall (which is now dry) & using it for backfill.. that dirt is almost gone & the cribwall might be half full. I'll take pics later of the digging I've done lately. ;)

That should be enough to keep your moejoe going for awhile, eh Greg?! :D

[Snochaser]

Nice updates Joe. I will agree with you on the bucket width of the 963, it does need to be wider for sure. I wish I had somewhere to log the hours on my equipment like you do.

Ben

[ihbuilder]

"Some dump angle has been lost at the very top of the lift arm travel, a new design for the z link needs to be done too."

I have the same issue on my 990 . When scaling off the the sales brochure it's hard to get the right shape of the pivot bar .With my archaic cad program it's hard to simulate the movement .Good note to that is I got a new 1 made up that should fix it :) . I'm surprised that with what they are brought up to be , they don't have the means to simulate before production or worked it out with the prototype :confused:. I guess if no one complained no need to worry :rolleyes:

would be nice to see that D9 south again this spring . hint hint :p

[catmack]

Lil' Giant,

Who makes Carson?, is it a loader? and are those the one piece metal tracks on your 963?

[catmack]

"Some dump angle has been lost at the very top of the lift arm travel, a new design for the z link needs to be done too."

I have the same issue on my 990 . When scaling off the the sales brochure it's hard to get the right shape of the pivot bar .With my archaic cad program it's hard to simulate the movement .Good note to that is I got a new 1 made up that should fix it :) . I'm surprised that with what they are brought up to be , they don't have the means to simulate before production or worked it out with the prototype :confused:. I guess if no one complained no need to worry :rolleyes:

would be nice to see that D9 south again this spring . hint hint :p

IhSteve,

What CAD are you using and does it do 3D?

[Lil Giants]

This is Carson
http://www.rctruckandconstruction.com/showthread.php?t=5562

Yes.

Steve, there is no curve at all. Unless Cabin Fever in York changes back to January, I'll never be at another one. :(

[Azonic]

Ohh so you have bought that dozer? Isnt that the one with the scraper, or am i wrong?

[ihbuilder]

Colin , acad 2004 2d/3d

Joe , I just fitted my new z bar up works near perfect . Little adjustment on the cylinder boss on the machine and I think I got it :) I took the curve mostly out . the change in date has me all messed up . It puts 2 show within a month for me :confused: looks like the loader will be doing the road building this year . It'll do it with ease , just not fast like a dozer :(

[Lil Giants]

It should be quicker than a dozer Steve b/c you don't have tracks that will plug up with soil. ;)

At the Napa store again this morning I discovered a different battery that's the same LxW, just 20mm higher & nearly double the amps @ 310. :cool:

Yes Kalle, I got the pan scraper too. :) I hope to get some time doing some landscaping in my machine shed this summer with the combo, carve the hump out of the middle so I can stuff more machinery inside out of the UV light. Also might clean out my barn with the dozer too, D9Joe made me a root rake that bolts directly to the blade, which should work well in the straw/manure. :D

[D8R]

Yes Joe, that´s the same size, maybe some mm narrower.
The D9 looks good with all wearing, guess it take some time to get that, looking forward getting mine dirty!
From videos earlier it looked like ground was quite hard, can the D9 push it directly or do you have to make it little softer? Maybee a ripper could do that?
Dan

[Lil Giants]

All the wearing currently on this dozer had been done by D9Joe Lewis. I've never ran it, just brought it home this way from the St Louis meet last Oct. D9Joe had nothing but bad luck the last day he had it in his control, kept blowing hyd lines. :( I'm assuming the hyd lines are from McMaster Carr? I've never had a problem with the hyd lines I get from Germany.. perhaps a different chemical make-up than the USA manufacture?

On another note, I finally found the next dump trl I intend to make, it's a side dump.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YKirDV4pgyQ
Few of you will probably remember aaronsride from the yahoo group I started a decade ago, Aaron showed me pics of a b train similar to this he'd seen in his area (8-10yrs ago) & I never forgot how trick it was that the sidewall went up & the floor extended out. :cool: Now if I could find PDF's with measurements of the pivot points to cut down on trial & errors. :D

I also found another wicked design end dump combo unit that I've never seen before (it was in the same article page), it sure is slick how it works for two end dump trls. :cool: Might do this too a few yrs from now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pWeKcZ2RBsc#!

[Snochaser]

Joe, How is the other nameless project coming along you hinted at and we talked about in St. Louis? I was hoping the manufacture was going to build what we discussed so I could have it in less time than doing all the R&D and building.

Ben

[buzzy16]

wow Joe, This is amazing what you are doing in your basement of all places, it would be awesome to "work" down there.

[MitzuRazing]

I've also been tinkering at the mystery model I got last Spring, got to get it done for this summers activities outside. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%2013/016.jpg

:D

I remember seeing some big tires in one of your pictures last year, I am betting this is a Bell 4206 :) Am I right or what? :D

[Lil Giants]

Lucky guess :D

[Lil Giants]

So this is what I've been digging lately, under the west porch.. it was kind of a ski slope from the back wall to the water heater. Cutting it down flat, square up the edges, make it a better storage area for wet dirt from other areas in the basement. Took about 12" cut at the face of the wall & it's about 8" at front of cut.

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Hauling the wet dirt over here to the sw corner, will eventually employ bucket screener here & haul the wet lumps back to where I'm digging now, to leave to dry out over summer, then crush it next winter & pile and haul it out summer of '14. :D

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This cut is 18" deep by 72"x32" (0.917 cu yd), that's most of the dirt already in this corner.

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There's maybe a dozen bellydump loads to screen & crush here presently, the last of the bone dry dirt from the wall mined away last winter.

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Haul quite a bit of this crush over to the wet pile sw corner, give the 850 a dry, elevated platform to perch from while screening. And put the remainder in the wall for backfill.

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Started the slow soak again this morning under the west porch, take about a week for thorough deep coverage, then let the surface dry for about 3 or 4 days & dig some more...starting at 8" at the last cut, tapering down to an inch depth just behind the water heater. ;)

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Here's a movie, can't see the 850 hardly b/c of poor lighting, but I think you can still make out how tight of area it is for it to work within. :eek:

http://youtu.be/WwrxdVTLfmY

[Snochaser]

Nice Joe, you moved a bunch of dirt, I'm sure you're being cautious around your cast iron sewer. That would be rough if it let go, you'd be doing logging :) instead of hauling dirt:(.

Ben

[Lil Giants]

I bumped the pipe with the chisel bar a few times when I was digging in the posts for the wall, sounded pretty solid... do they crack easy? what's the wall thickness generally? Should I be covering up the exposed metal surface, pouring oil on it to prevent/slow further rusting?

[dabears]

Wish i could come up and play!! I wanna play in the dirt but cant till spring.... I can move snow though.... HAHA

[buzzy16]

I'd love to come and play as well, flights from Australia aren't overly cheap though.

[ihbuilder]

I bumped the pipe with the chisel bar a few times when I was digging in the posts for the wall, sounded pretty solid... do they crack easy? what's the wall thickness generally? Should I be covering up the exposed metal surface, pouring oil on it to prevent/slow further rusting?

yes they do :eek: if they're not bedded well . the wall is some where around .1875 - .25 inches . I don't have any here since I haven't put any in in the last few years . Down here it was a common practice to put blocking under the pipe fore setting grade with no bedding under the rest . I've replaced many like that do to the back fill breaking the pipe between the blocking . Yours looks to be bedded well ;)

[MoRockN]

Joe, your driving/operating skills make me sick..... You are such a master. That is all!
Ayoub

[Lil Giants]

Well it's been there nearly 50yrs Steve, good to know thanx.

Practice practice practice Ayoub... time for you to start shining the paint off that new loader of yours & showing us lots of videos, will they let in the building to do some track maintenance? :D

[buzzy16]

how many batteries do you go though in a normal night?
you must have alot of batteries and chargers?

the video's are great.

buzzy

[Stuff]

Joe is going to be done before I ever get out there! and Im only like a day trip away from him lol!

[Snochaser]

Joe they do break easy to if you hit them. They get hairline cracks and start seeping. Just be cautious.

[Lil Giants]

Buzzy, might use a lipo or two in a night, depends on hard digging or screening. Trks last for hours on a charge... this winter has been lack of ambition, 3-4 days/wk, 1-3hrs at a time.

Perhaps someday Dean. :)

Good to know, thanx Ben. :cool:

[tracksntreadslou]

Very tight spot Joe ..You managed that quite well ..Great vid too ...I find some of the longer say more that 5 minutes gets sometimes boring and i will not watch the whole vid .Not with yours though .the way you split it up doing different things makes a big difference ..Thanks for keeping us in the loop

[RCLogger]

Thanks for the update Joe

Looks like that WA 500 is still going strong, any idea how many hours you have on it ?

greg

[Lil Giants]

Cheers Lou. Cameras with bigger memory cards nowadays & youtube's wider mb allowance, not so rushed anymore to cram it all together or have to make several vids to tell the whole story. ;)

Don't know Greg, it has worked very well... making a new bucket out of steel right now, the aluminum floor of the old one is getting paper thin & the pivot points quite loose. Also just got a rotary table from Sherline to make some custom wheels to mount different hollow tires that I can add BB's to to get this loader heavier for better traction & lower center of gravity for better stability. ;)

[Lil Giants]

Buggered on the lighting again... it was much brighter & clearer before uploading to youtube. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vg0OXyiQ3w

[cdm]

needs a spotlight aimed where the bucket goes.. those halogen ones from china are great and give off plenty heat as a bonus).

[catmack]

Joe,

What is the track pitch for the "bolt-on pad" machines you have? (you may have already told me some of them)...I am planning to run a batch or two or three of several different size pads in aluminum in a series of pitches I already have drawn and quoted to start. What I am interested in doing is starting a construction model/undercarriage/equipment business for this hobby and want to know if there is interest in a "discussion" for input to see if there is some common requirements and/or suggestions people would like to see come to market in addition to my own ideas . This would be a good platform for everyone to have an opportunity to express their desires. I plan on offering complete track assemblies with sprocket blanks like others have commented on so, it may not make a difference, I could just fly with a step up (incremental) product that is able to interchange components within the same pitch and cross-scale the pitches to minimize how many large quantity stock orders placed with the raw material supplier. I plan on aluminum and steel link and pad assemblies or what ever works out economically to start. The photo attached is a sample of the aluminum pad. I have a better photo if you want to see a closer look. I need to talk to the administrator at this point I think so I don't overstep the rules. This post would most likely need to be moved to maybe a more appropriate thread?? I am posting this because you are running your models steadily and be good for feedback. thanks, Colin

[Lil Giants]

Not sure exactly Colin, standing on my head with caliper in hand with dim light, looks about 0.650"... Kalle took his tracks apart for pics and measurement for Chris, perhaps he's got a much more accurate number, eh Kalle? :)

I put new shoes on the WA500! :D

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The tires have pretty thick sidewalls & sole, still some hollow space though to add nearly two pounds of steel BB's. :cool:

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I had originally thought I would use the rims/tires from my scrapped 740, but discovered that the rims were too small of diameter to fit over the gearhead with it's offset spur gear output shaft. The rims from Fumotec for these other tires were large enough diameter, but the bolt pattern was beyond macgivering. The oem rims are a bit too wide & don't have a bead trough like the Fumotec rims, but are a couple mm bigger in diameter which will help grip the bead, and the BB's should help to both lock the tire to the rim, as well as keep the sidewalls pushed outward to help keep bead seated to the rim's edge. I used a bit of air pressure to expand both sidewalls to set the bead, which then created a little bit of a cavity & the BB's now slosh a bit... I'll see what happens.

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Nearly have my new steel bucket finnished, little bit wider, but everything else is virtually the same. Just need to smooth out some welds with the grinder, turn some brass bushings for the pivots & give it a coat of paint. :)

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I've made a pretty good dent in screening the wet lumps pile this week, but before dumping the damp dirt from the area that I just mined it from, I thought I'd better lay down a layer of bone dry crush so I don't have a welded (so to speak) glob of cement hard clay packed back in there when I go to retrieve it in dry form next winter for processing.

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[rockNmayhem]

Joe Great updates on the loader. I really like the new tires and the tread design on them as well. The new bucket also looks good and it'll be right at home with some new paint on it and playing in the dirt. Keep up the pics and vid's as we can never get enough.

Tyler

[Lil Giants]

Thanx Tyler, much appreciated! :)

I got some more movies, but gotta wait till the 8th of the month for my internet data cap to reset... rural living & hi spd internet is not only obscenely expensive, but unfairly limited too. :(

[buzzy16]

Joe, I know how you feel about the whole Internet situation.

I'm currently saving up for a vario right now, only about 10 months of saving to go haha.

[catmack]

Not sure exactly Colin, standing on my head with caliper in hand with dim light, looks about 0.650"... Kalle took his tracks apart for pics and measurement for Chris, perhaps he's got a much more accurate number, eh Kalle? :)

Would you say it is 16mm?

[Kaf343]

Joe, love the new shoes on the WA500, they look right at home. And great idea with the BB's. I love following this thread as someone said before this is the proving ground for ALL equipment. Thanks for keeping us updated.

[JAMMER]

Hello Joe it must be time to rebuild the Deere it is showing some external ware from what I see in the pictures. The most use my Deere got was at Cabin Fever last year. I got the new tracks fixed now I hope. I got to thinking about that and if you could put the two motors in the undercarriage in the center and run the shafts out to the side panels were the motors use to be and 2 sprockets and a chain to drive in there to the sprockets it would have been cheaper and every thing would be inside the housing. Ed

[Lil Giants]

Good choice Buzzy, you'll be pleased when you have it, look forward to seeing your build thread of it. ;)

Colin, probably most likely a round number like that, but not to say for certain that it wouldn't be 16.5mm too.

Yes indeed Keith, this proving ground has been what has kept me enticed for such a long period of time... I've seen alot of ppl (internet friendships) worldwide come & go over the yrs from this particular unique hobby, mainly b/c they didn't have a ready access playground to torture their creations regularly. :D

That would simplify things greatly for sure Ed, but then also at the sacrifice of the scaled look of the elevated bridge having to lower the center body to line things up, cutting ground clearance immensely... quite honestly, it's a shortcut I'd take if I had to make it myself. ;) :p :D

[Azonic]

Colin/Joe: I dont know if you talk about the pitch of the sprocket or on the tracks, either way, the distance between 2 pins on the tracks (center to center of pins) is 18.5mm. The distance from tooth to tooth on the sprocket is about 10mm. If i understand you right thats what you want, right?

[ihbuilder]

Colin/Joe: I dont know if you talk about the pitch of the sprocket or on the tracks, either way, the distance between 2 pins on the tracks (center to center of pins) is 18.5mm. The distance from tooth to tooth on the sprocket is about 10mm. If i understand you right thats what you want, right?

pitch= center of pin to center of pin

[catmack]

Colin/Joe: I dont know if you talk about the pitch of the sprocket or on the tracks, either way, the distance between 2 pins on the tracks (center to center of pins) is 18.5mm. The distance from tooth to tooth on the sprocket is about 10mm. If i understand you right thats what you want, right?

So, the vario is 18.5mm(.729"), that is a little more from what Joe said. That sounds more like a 1/12th scale track pitch of a machine that size in 1:1 though.

[catmack]

Good choice Buzzy, you'll be pleased when you have it, look forward to seeing your build thread of it. ;)

Colin, probably most likely a round number like that, but not to say for certain that it wouldn't be 16.5mm too.

Yes indeed Keith, this proving ground has been what has kept me enticed for such a long period of time... I've seen alot of ppl (internet friendships) worldwide come & go over the yrs from this particular unique hobby, mainly b/c they didn't have a ready access playground to torture their creations regularly. :D

That would simplify things greatly for sure Ed, but then also at the sacrifice of the scaled look of the elevated bridge having to lower the center body to line things up, cutting ground clearance immensely... quite honestly, it's a shortcut I'd take if I had to make it myself. ;) :p :D

The new tires look very nice and are bigger as is the new bucket (which looks great, like going from a rock bucket to a mulch bucket), think it will make a noticable difference in the crowd loading ability or breakout force?

Do you think you were that far off on the pitch to what azonic said? And yes I agree, if what you found (.650") would most likely be 16.5mm.

[Lil Giants]

Thanx Kalle for checking in. :) And thanx Steve for the clarificiation. :)

No doubt I was that far off Colin, to be out 2mm looking at it cockeyed in dimlight. :D Kalle and I have the same model with the only difference being cosmetic; his is 12th scale bodied 470 Hitachi, mine is a 14th scale 850 John Deere, Jammer has a 12th scale 450 JD.. everything else is the same.

Crowding & stability should be much better for sure with bigger tires & more weight. Breakout force however is of no existence in this small scale, not enough weight or power to do anything more than work with cultivated material.

[JAMMER]

Joe what I was talking about was putting the motors in side the undercarriage were the electric are for the swing and wires for the track motors, then a shaft out through the inner plates to the out side were the original motors were that is were the sprockets would be so every thing would be inside and enclosed in the chassis an out of harms way. This way you could use the original motors all you would need is 2 shafts 4 sprockets and 2 lengths of chain and you are in business. Ed

[RCLogger]

The new boots look good Joe, is the rubber a softer compound on the new tires ? What are you going to do with the old tires ? Also, in the one photo I can see a new bucket with big teeth, it still has paint on it, what does that belong to ?

greg

[Stuff]

new shoes look good!

[Lil Giants]

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I understand perfectly what you're saying saying Ed, is your newer u/c different than this one? Being these motors have planetary drives (much more powerful & durable than a spur gear) the output shaft would come out above the track body.

WernerS 12th scale Liebherr hoe was built the way you're saying, motors/electrics are water tight inside the bridge, but he doesn't have the center clearance this one does & get's hung up/high centered alot.

Greg, the new tires should flex a little more than the solid rubber of the other tires, we'll see... still on the bench currently fitting the new bucket to it. The other tires will be for track dollies. That other bucket came from a New Brite plastic wheel loader I had 20yrs ago, it's pretty tiny, I had it on my Stahl track loader a time ago, bucket isn't wide enough even for that.

Cheers Dean. :)

[Lil Giants]

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It's in the paint booth tonite, I'll be scarring the paint off next week. :D

[Bigrigger]

Nice upgrades to your rig! This is by far the oldest thread in my forum experience (between GardenTrucking and others), and one of my most favorites! I really like the custom bucket, making your own parts is awesome! I can't wait to see it painted! :D

[RCTech9]

Nice bucket Joe! Looks like you can handle lots of material with it.

[Lil Giants]

Bigrigger, I remember when you started GTF, you were quite a lil bottle pepper... you were 12 then - so you about 18 19 now? Thanx for the fan fare. :)

Not much more capacity RT9, but moreso the straight cutting is what I prefer, these models are too small to make proper use of a spade bucket with teeth.

So what to do the old WA500 bucket... hmmm... HAH! :D

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Having this bolt placed exactly here below the drag link keeps the bucket from tilting too far and over camming the linkage.. it still tilts as sharp as if it weren't there, but it puts upward pressure on the drag link so it doesn't get stuck in that position. ;)

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Gonna have another go at looking for that pressure relief valve, the hyds have been weak ever since I got it. I'll try to tie in my guage too while I'm at it to see how low it is, then bump it to 14 15bar... more power, faster speed. ;)

[Espeefan]

Joe, it's been while since I checked your thread! I didn't even know you had a Scale Art 963B track loader! Dang, that model looks like the real thing, sitting all cover in dust and dirt. Shame it doesn't perform to your expectations though, hydraulic wise. I bet the guys at Scale Art never thought one of their products would get worked so hard. I'm sure the average guy would never run a model as hard as you, but considering the nature of the Scale Art loader, I'd say it hasn't done to bad.

The Komatsu has transformed into a beast! It's looking really good with the bigger tires.

If you do build a side dump, like the Trout River trailer in the youtube video, that will be one of a kind! That's a really cool set-up.

[Lil Giants]

Got it last Spring, bought it used from some one in the states... Ben just got one too shortly before, I didn't want to steal his thunder blabbling about mine. :)

I don't run anything hard Nathan, I just use it regulary... the 850 gets abused a bit digging so much virgin ground, but everything else is working in loose soil.

So I got a gauge installed before I did anything... with a fesh 3s batt, the press varied between 10 - 12bar... pretty low. Took about 80% of the pump apart to figure out how it worked exactly.. eventually found the prv, as well as a couple of oop's somebody did when the tank & pump were mated together... some silicone used for a sealed union between the two, some silicone was partially block the intake port restricting flow.

There's 3 ports on this pump on the tank side, each outside port - 1 is inlet, the other is return and the one in the middle seems to come out from under the drive gear :confused:, using a bit of very light air pressure in that port, I can feel air coming the drive gear teeth... anyways, there was some silicone stuck in that bore, partially blocking it. I don't know or understand what that port is for in the system.

Pump/tank back together now & working muuuuch better, press running 15 - 16bar, that loader really lifts fast now, although the power seems a bit lacking still (pressing down with my hand while trying to lift hydraulically)... a change of lift cyls to a larger bore is probably what's needed... some recent yt vids I've seen, the cyls look different than mine, maybe they are bigger. :confused: This loader is about 5 or 6 yrs old.

Anyways... seems my hi spd internet has been restored early, perhaps I load a movie tonite. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%2013/011_zps66f4b8a1.jpg

[Espeefan]

Joe, interesting about the pump having a blocked port. Glad you figured out the problem though. Perhaps now it will perform better. No idea why you'd have 3 ports on the tank side of the pump. Perhaps the third is a drain or a port to help the pump be self priming?

[Lil Giants]

Luving it now! It's working just how I want it too. :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iH8Jpkuhwc&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcuq33L2asI&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANwljFg0Jvs&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E70WK-wRhPY&feature=youtu.be

[buzzy16]

wow just checking on my youtube feed and the first 4 vids are from you joe :D

my mother is going to kill me using this much download :P

[egronvold]

How would you compare it to the Stahl loader?

[trucker n]

loving the new equipment joe love the scaleart when u going to show us some video of the d11 from texas wish i had not sold all my equipment now:mad:

[John T.]

hay Joe nice videos. I just watched them on utube the only concern i have is that they might get blocked because of the background music playing, sadly ive had other fav. vids get blocked because of this very thing. I hope this does NOT happen, but i just wanted to give you a heads up in case it does. keep up the great work

[Lil Giants]

I hearrrd that Buzzy! I just burned up 20% of my data cap for the month already with those 4 shorty vids + here's one more. :o :D

Emil, Just the difference in weight, longer tracks, better balance makes the Scale Art 10x better over the Stahl. I need to find the loader arms from the wdc 966 and a set of Stahl dozer track bodies to stretch the 632 out... I seen pics of some one who did that, but no vid, I think that would be a great improvement of performance for that track loader. ;)

The Tx dozer is for outside this summer... no way I'm carrying that monster down a narrow stairwell!!! :eek: It's way too big to function down there, one pass & I'd be done! :( Why did you sell everything?! :confused:

Yes John, I've already been warned by youtube that this may happen... can I edit the video with it in place on youtube to mute the sound? or would I have to reload?...if it happens it happens, I won't make that mistake again. ;)

http://youtu.be/X3PvBoqXjlo

[trucker n]

i hear ya joe on the dozer to heavy for the basement i sold the machinery was buying a house and family come first i think tax return next year may get something we will see:D

[catmack]

Joe, maybe you said but, is that the scale art bucket?, aluminum?

[Lil Giants]

No, it's the old bucket from WA500 wheel loader... the Scale Art oem bucket is too narrow, the tracks stick out about 3mm either side. :confused: This old bucket is a perfect fit (imo) to the 963, much greater capacity & this model has the stones to handle it easily too. ;)

Yes, this one is aluminum. The new bucket for the wheel loader is laser cut steel from Fumotec.

This is the 963's oem bucket (photo courtesy of Snochaser Ben)
http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad125/snochaser/truckntrailer.jpg

..there is a post reply button at top & bottom of each thread page, or quicker yet is the quick reply window at the bottom.... instead of quoting an already long post. Use the quote to answer or pose a question to something specific. Just a suggestion to help with the use of the forum. ;)

[catmack]

Okay, I am still new to the forum stuff but I get it, thanks for the tip. The laser cut bucket, is that the one you have posted here up a page or so or is it the one you are taking off?...Fumotec??, is it the 850 bucket

[Lil Giants]

Yes, the one I just weld together on the previous page. The bucket on the 963 is the original to the wheel loader.

Fumotec is the designer - original creator of the JD850, he (Frank) works for Vario and they brought his kit to market for him, and have the copyrights to further sales. But Frank now has a other constr kit models he produces and sells on his own. http://www.fumotec.de/ A great fellow to deal with. ;)

[JAMMER]

Hi Joe did you look at the sight,I went to the face book page he has. Frank has metal tracks in the works. Ed

[WhiteWolf McBride]

Joe, you are the demon from the hot inner depths!

Seeing those makes me wish I could win some serious dinero. One of the D40's or 50's first, then a front-bucket loader to fill it.

Then again, I'd probably go military hauler w/ lowboy first, getting one of Peter Muller's Faun SLT2-50's with its trailer:

http://www.sonderfahrzeug-modellbau.com/_home/_eng/0000009c9c0a63615/0000009ca30d8923a/index.html

2370 euro base ain't chump change. Less the 19% VAT, but add postage & 13% HST on this end. Still a chunk. Though that plain Waran chassis for 470 euro is tempting... when my pocketbook recovers.

Sigh, I gotta get to work on my stuff.

WhiteWolf

[Lil Giants]

I don't see it anywhere on his site Ed, and I don't have facebook either... can you snag a few photos to post here from his F/B page or perhaps post a direct link, maybe I can see it then. TIA :)

[JAMMER]

Joe I tried to get a photo but it won't come up. The link is found at fumotec.de the shop scroll down to the bottom and you will see his face book page. Ed

[Azonic]

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/379431_449136828487095_89110626_n.jpg

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/64989_449136821820429_1973812895_n.jpg

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427697_449136838487094_699139266_n.jpg

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/66709_449136891820422_2105232166_n.jpg

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/268415_449136865153758_1644628767_n.jpg

Here you go Ed.

These look really nice but seem to be for smaller excavators from what i can see/read. :(

From Frank, taken from Facebook:

" Breite 57mm, 8mm Kettenteilung, und 4mm Bolzen. Wenn noch Fragen sind, meld Dich!"

"In kürze werden die Kettenglieder verfügbar sein. Kettenbreite 57mm, 4mm Kettenbolzen mit 8er Teilung (16mm Kettenbolzenabstand). Zum Preis von je 3,80 Euro inkl. dem passenden Kettenbolzen.

English: "Width 57mm, 8mm chain pitch, and 4mm bolt. Meld If there are any questions, you!"

"In brief, the chain links will be available. Chain width 57mm, 4mm chain bolts with 8 mm pitch (16mm link pin spacing). At a price of 3.80 euros each including the appropriate link pins.

[JAMMER]

Kalle thank you for the help. As for the with 57 mm is 2.25 inches seems wide enough but the pock metal may be the problem with wear. Ed

[RCLogger]

Joe That is one big bucket you built for the WA500, it is almost like a sawdust bucket they use at sawmills. Here is the lift of my 980

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p17/logger_02/march005_zps8e2197fd.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p17/logger_02/march006_zps22a72fe3.jpg

[Lil Giants]

Ed, being I don't do facebook, the link does nothing for me.

Thanx Kalle for posting them up. :cool: I added the english script... 5.80E = $5.15cdn Strength & durability could be an issue... my tracks can get quite clogged with moist clay - you've seen what I've done to an output shaft b/c of jammed material. :eek:

HOLY SMOKES GREG!!! your loader is a BEAST!!! :cool:

[Azonic]

Ed, being I don't do facebook, the link does nothing for me.

Thanx Kalle for posting them up. :cool: I added the english script... 5.80E = $5.15cdn Strength & durability could be an issue... my tracks can get quite clogged with moist clay - you've seen what I've done to an output shaft b/c of jammed material. :eek:

HOLY SMOKES GREG!!! your loader is a BEAST!!! :cool:

Yes, strength could be an issue, but i actually dont think these are for the Vario machines, the pitch doesnt seem to be the same as the plastic ones, but maybe a new sprocket and idler is up, i dont know if Frank has an smaller 1:14 excavator on the way or what but we will see, i have sent Frank an mail about it, ill let you know when he reply me! :)

Driving in moist clay you will get your tracks clogged, it doesnt work like on 1:1 machines where the clay/dirt will fall off more easy, i dont think you can get away from clogging on our machines. I dont think they are made for going in wet areas either, even tho i do it becuse its great fun! :) If they had been mjade for taking on wet/watery areas the motors should have been in the center of the undercarrige.

Ohh well, i would love metal tracks for my 470 if not to high priced, just for the scale of it! :)

[catmack]

Azonic, are you wanting to replace all the components for a metal undercarriage on your 470 or are you wanting just chains and pads?...I think the new tracks look great for detail especially, I agree on the durability though.

[Lil Giants]

Kalle, Frank does have a new track hoe in the works, as he told me a few days ago (no pics though)

Bauma Fair / Show in Munich it´s the worlsd biggest show for construction machines and equipment. There on the Komatsu both should my latest upgraded wheelloader the WA500-7 and the brandnew excavator PC 490-10 be ready. This whill be a hard work to get both models finshed.

Yes Kalle, very true, the dirt can't be scaled down to 14th density. :D

[Azonic]

Azonic, are you wanting to replace all the components for a metal undercarriage on your 470 or are you wanting just chains and pads?...I think the new tracks look great for detail especially, I agree on the durability though.

No, the undercarrige is all metal on my 470, only the track link and pad are plastic and thats what i want to change, yes durability would be a problem with these.

Kalle, Frank does have a new track hoe in the works, as he told me a few days ago (no pics though)

Bauma Fair / Show in Munich it´s the worlsd biggest show for construction machines and equipment. There on the Komatsu both should my latest upgraded wheelloader the WA500-7 and the brandnew excavator PC 490-10 be ready. This whill be a hard work to get both models finshed.

Yes Kalle, very true, the dirt can't be scaled down to 14th density. :D

Ohh really, thats cool! :)

Will be nice to see some pics of that one, i guess it wont have the same weight as ours due to the tracks beeing pot/die cast tracks, really cool anyway! :)

Nope, too bad we cant have everything! ;)

[Lil Giants]

Made a movie of the WA500 loading lumps at the beginning, GOSH! another 3 inches lift would make a great bit of difference Greg. :D The length of my loader arms are 9 inches, what's your's?

Near the end of the movie the loader is pushing up "fines", I thought those fatter tires would have floated better than the originals... not much difference though. :confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olBRlXIMqhs

[RCLogger]

Loader arms on the 980 ( Boom pin > pin ) 10 inches

greg

[tracksntreadslou]

Joe ..What rumors have you heard about NEW Dozers ..Come on "details " if you have some ..lol

The Kamatsu Looks good with the new boots and Bucket ..The wider tire may give you a little less traction due to less psi for surface area ..Probably not noticable on this scale though ..lol..I have a complete set of six as well ..Thinking i may swap out the mamoth tires off the Hitachi ADT

Joe thinking about that exta line on the scaleart track loader pump ..Years ago i bought a Complete Graupner set up..On the bottom of the pump there is a very small hole ...too small for a fitting or any type of connection ..the pump is in my adt now ..When i ues it there is always a few small drips that come out of that hole ..nothing signicant ..never had it apart though ..always wondered why

[Espeefan]

Perhaps it won't be long and Frank will start on a dozer? He's got some pretty good track drives already. On his home page is a video link to a tracked dump truck that he is showing off. It looks pretty interesting.

http://www.fumotec.de/videos/raupendumper/index.php

[Lil Giants]

Here's one of them Lou, still in the drawing works though... like the other two.

http://www.modell-baustelle.de/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=5983


I found out what the 3rd hole was for - some oil gets under the gears & will travel down the drive shaft with the pressure it creates within the chamber, which is where that hole go to.

Yeah Nathan, Frank seems to be really cranking out the new models lately, about one a year... who knows. ;)

[mog]

thanks Joe. if you get a tig welder let me know and i will come help you get going and set you up. you can tig off of a D/C stick welder i bet you got one of them. i loving the snow it's snowing right now.

[Lil Giants]

I'll probably take you shopping with me so I get exactly what I need Martin. ;)

Well, Spring can't be more than 2 or 3 weeks away... getting ready to some serious hauling out of my basement this summer, got a mountain of fines that need to go! Gonna have to move at least 4 cu yd out this yr! :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%2013/001-1_zps02828bb3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%2013/003-1_zps81b56d42.jpg

Pup the same size as the trk.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%2013/002-1_zps38082e54.jpg

Got to make some repairs on the trk too. :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/Jan%2013/004-1_zps6a202ef9.jpg


Waiting on goodies from Tower Hobbies & IHSteve to get this rig working asap!

[modelman]

Hi joe-I have been following your thread like everyone else and it looks like you have plenty of work to do come spring. I will be anxious to see the D9 working outside. That is some machine!!

[Stuff]

Should be an interesting year again Joe!! snow drifts are up to the hood of the truck in places out here! they saying we might get another flood year :( I really hope we don't!! I like my home where it is, not washed into the USA!

It shows you really work your equipment! never seen an axle give like that! but then never seen one haul so much dirt! lol

[dabears]

Joe that pup gives me ideas! I like the way you used un used frame rails.

[cmt643]

I have just one question on my PC the dump body for you trailer looks like it is plastic and if it is plastic then would it stand up the the weight of the dirt that you haul.

[Lil Giants]

Thanx Tom... look for it some time in later June, when my machine shed is emptied out, I'll start doing some landscaping in there. ;)

Not too bad around here Dean, about avg, just hoping it doesn't melt too fast, get an even soak everywhere.

This is the 2nd axle tlt to break this winter (the white GL was last month), alot of weight on that front axle & it's always the right that hits the bottom of the ramp 1st... I asked RC4WD if they had a metal one, they said no - only the rear non steering. :( I got a couple of spares to used up yet.

cmt643, yes it is plastic. The trk has probably hauled around & out of the basement more than 10 cubes. The belly dump trl is plastic, trap doors are 20 ga steel & has been in regular use since 2005.

[buzzy16]

Hi joe, I'v seen a few people use these.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCXGG

I dont know how well they fit under the trucks or anything but they are metal axels?

[Lil Giants]

Thanx for the tip Buzzy, but after looking over Travis' review thread on them... axles are different ratio, gotta buy the whole set and probably too narrow as well for the bigger tires I'm using, all rear duals are already shimmed out with the tam stock axles. Plus the higher reduction I don't need, got plenty making the trk alomost too slow now.

http://www.rctruckandconstruction.com/showthread.php?t=6008

Got about 4 or 5yrs use out of each tlt axle before they snapped... cost of doing business. :rolleyes: :D

[buzzy16]

Ah yes ok, iv just seen a couple of people use them, thought I'd let you know just Incase, but if the others lasted that long it's not too bad anyway. As long as they still build them how they used to 5 years ago :p

[cdm]

you can always go for the non driven metal front axle if you can sacrifice the traction it gives you.

im thinking with that much weight in the bed it shouldnt even matter

[Lil Giants]

That powered front axle makes quite a difference, moreso when it's empty, and especially now with a pup in tow... no flat road where these trks go.

[Lil Giants]

I got the last of the loose material cleaned up, about 10 bd loads were dry enough to crush & will be used for backfill... give me something to do while waiting for the next area to soak up water, then do some more digging.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/002-10_zpsd99601ec.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/003-8_zpsec29af66.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/004-9_zpsd0e59172.jpg

Big pile of fines to go out! Perhaps I get started on some of it within two weeks.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/005-6_zps0fa1a923.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/006-6_zps2938a66f.jpg

[Azonic]

Whooha! Thats a lot of dirt to get out yes! :) Plenty of buckets and loads! Would be nice to help you out with the 470! :)

[cdm]

You should have a haul meet in your basement. You can eat through that in a day with enough people.

[MoRockN]

You should have a haul meet in your basement. You can eat through that in a day with enough people.
I like his Idea:D. But that is indeed a lot of dirt. I cant wait for the next series of videos.

[Snochaser]

How's the 963 doing? Any problems? Nice big ole' pile of dirt you've worked up.

Ben

[RCP57]

You should have a haul meet in your basement. You can eat through that in a day with enough people.

Yeah that is a great idea but you would have to convince Joe that he likes people first:p.

[Lil Giants]

Whooha! Thats a lot of dirt to get out yes! :) Plenty of buckets and loads! Would be nice to help you out with the 470! :)

No no no, I run the hoe, you just show up with a dump trk & I'll keep you busy. :D

Most of that pile is from last winter, knocking down over 7cy from the wall, might have gotten out maybe 2cy last summer (tore out & rebuilt 3 miles of barb wire fence last summer, didn't have much ambition at the end of day for dirt hauling)... probably added more than cube this winter to it from the floor dig & other stuff.

Yeah, it's too bad for me there aint no interest nearby for contract trkers... much like 1:life size, I kinda hate trucking, unless it's really short distance hauling... gonna be alot of trips up the stairs to look out the kitchen window for a 3D view to jack knife the pup each load... although the exercise will no doubt shrink the middle of me that showed up after I sold my cow herd last yr. :eek: :D :p

I don't think there'd be room enough for more than 3 trks with the single lane way, which shouldn't be too much wait time between loads, 1 is loading, 1 is going out or in & 1 is dumping.

The 963 is working great Ben, just how I want it to now. :) ...although I don't like those Scale Art tracks with its large holes in the middle of them. They're great to let the dirt out of the track link, but also let in alot of dirt too, which seems to jam up behind & on top of the front idler wheel, it's always squeaking/squeeling travelling in reverse & seems to be quite a bit of resistance at times too. :(

Also, I think all the track link pins are made from brass :confused: & every one of them is bent slightly, which causes binding/stalling issues with the sprockets/drive motors occassionally... gotta replace them all with steel pins. :rolleyes:

[D8R]

Impressive work done with those models. If I was a serios model manufacture I would have sent you models for testing durability, can't see that anyone else doing this as much as you!
/Dan

[JAMMER]

Joe the German build these things for toys and we like to use them like real ones,what we need it scale dirt and rocks. That would solve the problem. Ed

[Stuff]

when I get my new truck ill lock up the axles and see how busy you can keep me :P

[Lil Giants]

I think I make the "manufacturers" cringe Dan :D, finding the flaws in what they spent so much time & $ in R&D to develop it... I sent Scale Art a message through their website with some questions that I was having trouble with their model, just before xmas ----> no reply as of yet. :rolleyes:

That's something that is often not realized Ed, the dirt doesn't scale down to 14th scale density! it is what it is. :)

Don't forget your gear reduction options Dean, chrome don't get you home, but more gears will. :D Shoo Goo the diffs is much better than full locks, the corners are tight! :eek:

[cdm]

Hah they dont want the models tested. They just want to sell you eyecandy at absurd prices :)

[ihbuilder]

You wouldn't make me cringe Joe :p If my mack would fit through the window, we'd have that pile out in no time :D .

[cdm]

You wouldn't make me cringe Joe :p If my mack would fit through the window, we'd have that pile out in no time :D .

there the classic ways of getting it in the truck..

http://www.dimensionsinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Different-Shovel.jpg

it has been 20 years since ive touched a wheelbarrow tho

[Lil Giants]

Your Mack needs a lot work yet Steve before it could climb that spiral, starting with better tires with thicker sidewalls, and much much lower reduction to keep the spd constant so you don't jerk the load off, there's an 8' stretch on the 1st incline that's 14*! ;) How tall is it anway? The Mammoth fits through the window. I'd probably have to widen the entire roadway 8" for you and double the width in the corners. The Mammoth only has an inch or so side to side & 4 or 5 back ups to make each corner.

Using a 20L bucket (5.2us ga) for a volume measurement, what's the mack hold?
Each tandem trk & bd trl is about 4.5L and a 27" semi trl is about 7L.

[ihbuilder]

13" high at the cab shield heaped 18.9 litters or 5 USG . Which is good till you get over 8% grade then it starts to roll out the back . The tires are crap for sure :( was wondering how the 1's on the stal equipment would work ). I got stuff to fill them , but it requires a special application gun :(. The jerkiness happens when loaded turning in tight spaces ( ithink I still have the glitching issue that Ken has/had on his payhauler :( . From the looks of all your basement pics , It really wouldn't be efficient as your combos . A guy I talked to at cabin fever last year , told me the real 1's never turned well in tight spaces loaded . They always wanted to plow straight . I was working it in my craw space I moved at least 2 cubic yards of #57 (3/4") stone so far when I had a little time a month or so back .


Who knows , I may build 1 as a tractor with a bottom dump that would double capacity :eek:

[Lil Giants]

I measured the Mammoth @11.75", if memory serves me correctly, it wouldn't be a half inch clearance... you'd need a different box. :(

Even @15L load, I'd get a lot out in a few hrs every day! :D Tandem & tri pup should do pretty well (maybe close to 10L) if the corners aren't too much trouble to navigate.

Your series of Mack, did they ever make 6wd? That makes a huge difference for steering control, especially when carrying alot weight on the front axle.

I have 3 Stahl models & now the 850 with a 4.8v rx battery installed with the BEC coming from the Sabertooth esc as well. I never have to recharge that rx batt b/c the BEC from esc is keeping it charged & the batt takes care of the current spikes when they happen so no glitches or time outs. ;)

Here's some pics of tires... I did some horse trading with PFB, got his excavator dollies, so I think they're the same tires you're using? 1st pic - tires from the wheel loader & the other is from the adt.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/003-8_zpsc0e41a36.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/004-9_zps3a5db299.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/protrker/005-6_zps31c238a4.jpg


Nathan used that foam wrap to fill the tires, which created a flat spot where ever it ended... I tried to redo it, butting the ends together with each wrap, but still had a bit of a flat spot where it met. I tried a few other tires I have on hand, but they don't fit the Mil-Spec rims.,..:(

Then it occured to me today (while taking the pics) that I should turn out some tire fillers from oak! :D Make the donuts, cut each one in half so I can get them inside the tires for a true round smooth rolling tire... then maybe I can use them without pulling the track hoe out of the dollies b/c of skidding wheels while on the move?! ;)

[ihbuilder]

They never made a 6WD to my knowledge . I think Nate used the 1.9 which are smaller then what I have . mine are 5" dia . I found some on RC machines in Germany I'm just hesitant to buy . they also have nice 1's that get me closer to the size I need on the 990 . I have foundation sill seal wrapped in the fronts . no matter how hard I tried to keep it from over lapping , It bounces . I gotta find the stuff Reg uses . All the furniture co's are gone in my area from when I was a kid :( .

[RCP57]

The foam I use comes from an automotive upholstery shop. I did the 850KW's fronts the other day and they now work great. I have a home for those mil specs Joe....

[Espeefan]

Joe, does your WA500 notice the bigger, and heavier bucket much? Any guesses on the max wieght that the hydraulics can lift on the loader? I am sure it's somewhat dependant on the hydraulic pressure, and there is probably a point of diminishing returns, if you try to raise the pressure much more.

[grumpygrady]

would cutting the foam at a sharper angle work ?
just like a sanding belt is cut and glued, or even cut it at an angle 90 degrees to the rim
never have tryed what you are doing so may not work but it is 5:08 am and can't sleep so sit and think lol

[Lil Giants]

5" dia? The tractor lug for the wheel loader is solid rubber & the other has thick sidewalls, both 5" outer dia. Inner diameters for both wheels are 60mm or 2.4"

This foam Reg, would it carry 80lbs on four tires without excessive squat? ...basement floor is anything but flat! I think the oak donut might work famously... if not, then I'll have to start from scratch to make something else entirely to use these solid rubber wheel loader tires... maybe we make a trade? :D

You betcha Nathan, that steel bucket is very noticeable with its additional steel weight, but even moreso with its 2.25" longer depth (@5" total), add to that the BB's in the tires and jacking up the pressure from 12bar to 17 bar, tilting the bucket down won't lift the front tires off the ground anymore! :eek: Chances are the bucket cyl needs to be replaced, the oil might be slipping by the piston; the seal drips a bit too... I need to change all 5cyls on this loader, as they all seep a bit... what a mess it all makes!!! However, the twin loader arm cyls have zero trouble lifting a bucket full quickly with the higher pressure.

I understand exactly what you're saying Grady, a 45* splice would definitely be better than a 90* butt joint for a smoother roll... but I don't have any extra to redo the job. Although, after wrapping the rim with each layer - I think 5 layers, then removing it from the rim to scrunch & stuff into the tire, I think I distorted the true shape I previously had & probably didn't gain much... these are crawler tires for lightweight scalers, not meant at all for what I'm trying to do. But I'm gonna try the oak donut before giving up on them totally.

[RCP57]

I thought I would see what kind of weight could be put on these homemade foams. I put a 40lbs battery in the back of my R18 for a combined weight on the rear axle of 50lbs. I don't know how much more weight these would take but probably not 80lbs. Something tells me that if I put 80lbs+ in my Euc the tires would be the least of my worries though.

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[Espeefan]

Reg, I'd say the tire squat is about as scale perfect as can be!

[Espeefan]

You betcha Nathan, that steel bucket is very noticeable with its additional steel weight, but even moreso with its 2.25" longer depth (@5" total), add to that the BB's in the tires and jacking up the pressure from 12bar to 17 bar, tilting the bucket down won't lift the front tires off the ground anymore! :eek: Chances are the bucket cyl needs to be replaced, the oil might be slipping by the piston; the seal drips a bit too... I need to change all 5cyls on this loader, as they all seep a bit... what a mess it all makes!!! However, the twin loader arm cyls have zero trouble lifting a bucket full quickly with the higher pressure.

Got it Joe. Thanks. How many hours have you got on the WA500 now? Any idea what the weight is, with BB's in the tires? Seems a pretty darn robust machine, for all the work it has done. Do you notice the wheel motors getting tired, from the extra weight in the tires? Pun not intended! :D

[Lil Giants]

Thanx for the experiment test Reg. :)

No idea Nathan.. intermittent use since 2007... 2 - 300 or more. Always scooped loose soil. I don't have a scale to weigh it (can't buy a scale locally, and never remember it when in the city :rolleyes:), it's definitely 20-25% heavier. No, the motors have tons of power, I could spin all four & sink it to the frame in an instant, if I'd let it.

Why haven't you snapped up Ed's loader yet Nathan?! Somebody else is gonna get it again & then you're gonna whine again you missed out! :rolleyes: Buy it! The guilt of the cost of the 1st one stings a little momentarily, but once you discover the enjoyment it brings to use 'em... the cost is a distant thought!

It crossed my mind to buy it - trade up, so to speak - but all that mine needs is cyls @<$400, nothing else. And I sure as he77 wouldn't give mine away for much cheaper just to get rid of it. ;)

[Lil Giants]

I almost made it the whole winter without putting a wrench to the 850. :eek: :p :D

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I have a spare gearhead & made the repair last night, thread locking the old steel bushing in place on the new output shaft. It'll take an hour this morning to put everything back together & have it running again... it's good to carry inventory. :cool:

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[JAMMER]

Joe you run a gear reduction on your swing I run it right of the motor shaft. Ed

[Lil Giants]

Ed, everything pictured, I sent that to you last yr... did you remove the gearhead to run the motor directly on the pinion? :confused:

[Stuff]

wow that 850 held up good!

[9W Monighan]

About how many hours does that take to let go?

[JAMMER]

Joe now to tell you I can't really remember if that what you sent that is what I put on it. Ed

[apfubar]

Joe,

Impressive failure, a 4 or 5mm output shaft sheared off? Even with the hole up the middle of the shaft it would have taken some force to shear it ....

Possibly need to change to shaft to something more solid or somehow limit the torque output to minimise the chance of it happening again?

Cheers,
AP

[Lil Giants]

No idea on the hrs Steve... it was Aug or Sept 2011 when installed, 10cy of hard digging would put the most amount of stress on it, and I use the arm occassionally too to lift the front of tracks & turn.

[Lil Giants]

The pinion shaft on the gearhead is a solid 4mm, the bore of the pinion gear is 8mm. The hole you see, I just drilled that to pound out the broken pinion shaft from the steel bushing I made to mate the two. I also drilled two holes in the side of the steel bushing so the gear pinion set screws lock onto the output shaft.

[Lil Giants]

I popped this boulder out of the ground last night. :eek: The rock laid horizontal, I dug half way down, then was able to hook the bottom with the ripper. ;)

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I'm getting quite a pile of dirt again, almost dug across to the wall, might be another cy by the time I get there.

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I'll spend the next couple nights moving this wet dirt back & forth before digging to the wall, it'll help to dry it out & chop up the bigger wet lumps.

If the forecast for snow this week is wrong, then I'll be hauling out by the wkend. :D

[Rvjimd]

Careful around those utilities, did you have a "locate" done to make sure you don't hit anything? :p

You are having way too much fun!

Jim

[Stuff]

lol! Remember, Call Before You Dig!!

[ihbuilder]

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Joe, which company did you get the middle tire from ? looks perfect for something I have in mind .

[Lil Giants]

The blueprints only show one honey line below ground Rvjimd, everything else is above ground. ;)

Steve, I got them from ric when I was at his house in Jan '06... I don't know where he got them... I only have the four.

[JDH429]

That's a nice size boulder you unearthed there. I'm sure when you first hit it you felt a bit excited to see if the 850 may have a challenge in its path. But doesn't look like it broke a sweat.

[Lil Giants]

The excitement :confused: ...I guess it does make me smile at the abilities that this model has... I haven't touched the pic axe in two yrs!!! :D

[WhiteWolf McBride]

Mebbe Ric would chime in and identify it...

I agree as well, that tire looks favulous for a few ideas, got any specs on it, like OD/width and rim it would fit on?

I'm looking for alternates for my Robbe 6x6 amphib, and that looks sweet for my project.

Then again, so does the smaller one on the right...

WhiteWolf

PS: that pipe along the wall looks rather rusty... may wanna look into replacement before it 'lets go' on you and floods you in YUCK.

[Lil Giants]

It's cast iron! it's not going to corrode.

[Stuff]

Joe! I went through the whole thread but I think what I am looking for was back on the garden forums...

The green globe, It looks like you are using a F350 transmission? or did you combine one with a stock semi transmission? I am working on a 6x6 globe as well. did you have to change your mounts for any axles?